kf1 was spookier... nothing like barn at 3AM... wandering through each cornfield barely able to see. Trader moving insane distances and feeling safe at Traders Village. kf2 is more of an arcade game. i also loved kf1s gun mechanics. so smooth.
VØID I bought kf1 recently because I’m poor as fuck and i see every game i buy as an investment, and hell I’m loving both games, kf1 for me is basically a replacement for Dead space (games that I’ve grinded so they’re not scary anymore).
Damsen I disagree completely. Realism can enhance the immersion in a game. Immersion can enhance the overall experience. At least that’s how I think of it.
Damsen I assure you that putting any semblance of realism in a game that doesn’t necessarily focus on realism won’t obliterate the experience. I don’t consider realistic concepts in videogames to be a bad thing at all, unless it’s done poorly of course. Think back to Farcry 2, mostly an action packed game that doesn’t entirely focus on pinpoint realism, but it has interesting mechanics like weapon jamming that had implications on gameplay. Things like those are a good example of why realism shouldn’t always be a bad thing in a game.
I’m not saying that every game needs realistic mechanics, but I’m not saying that the game has to be leaning completely on one side either. I think there can be a blend of realistic mechanics that help to better the experience of a non-realistic game, and it shouldn’t be passed off as boring if implemented well. I think it’s great that the guns in KF2 sound like their real counter-parts. It’s doesn’t necessarily affect the gameplay, but it can help immerse the player within the unrealistic setting.
Not getting into the whole 1 vs 2 thing, but I'll just say, 1's animations are fantastic for their era, and with minor tweaks would hold up extremely well today, and I haven't found a game that has as much weapon detail as 2.
I like how the pistol shell casings in KF1 just shoot straight up in the air and rain down around the player. I don't know how realistic that is, but it looks damn cool.
saw this in the recommended. Saw that you are the guy who uploads the vids with all the weapon animations, sounds, etc. that I've listened or watched over the past few years. Thanks for all the uplaods
Nice compilation, thanks for making this. In terms of gunfire sounds I feel almost all KF2 guns sound better, with only a small handful exceptions. The KF1 9mm packs a lot more punch and is just much more enjoyable listening to, but apart from that I'd say KF2 is a huge improvement there. In terms of graphic models KF2 also favors, though only slightly. Some of the KF1 guns actually look better imo, like the Magnum and 9mm. Overall both games look really nice in this department. Reload animations are for the most part also superior in KF2 I feel, especially if you factor in the speed-reload animations. There are a couple KF1 guns that have a cooler reload anim though, like again the 9mm, mp7 and a couple others. But reload sounds are almost all superior in KF1 if you ask me. They have more flavor, like little rattles and clicks of the mags banging against the slots, and generally just sound more... crisp. Most of the KF2 reload sounds have less going on and feel more muted and "clean".
didn't notice it with the trenchgun but with the bolt action rifle it's really bad. I always like how the shell ejects exactly where it should and in KF2 it looks a bit messed up :s
Especially if there are walls close to you. Since most spent cartridges are ejected towards the right side of the guns(with some exceptions, like P90 for example, the cases are ejected downward instead), they'll also bounce around as well!
I loved the flamethrower perk so much more in KF1 as well. I dislike it in KF2, in KF1 you could literally use the flamethrower to snipe over the map. That is not realistic but it was cool, overall the KF2 one is more realistic and fine but its just not as fun anymore/not the same. There are perks that increase the range too and stuff but..yeah, at least it seems like that the other stuff is stronger about it
Snipe across the map with the flamethrower? It didn't have that much range. More like burn zeds at the other end of a long hallway. If you wanted to snipe stuff across the map, you used the Mac 10, Flare Revolver or Husk Cannon :P
I love KF2 and find it far better than 1 and to me it also has the same feeling *sees flamethrower* NEVERMIND. Well honestly that is the only thing that I dislike and that feels absolutely different >:
I liked kf1 because there were mods who worth it like in weapons: imi galil or m249 which in kf2 none of them appear. And how the weapon look like in kf2 different from kf1 like the ak47 with that attachment.
KF1 is more intense...the BG sound is better..... the 2nd version should be better..KF2 is overly done.... but playing kf2 feels like im playing FAR CRY....real talk.... the killing floor feels is gone... its more of a FAR CRY ....
kf1 has more of a rusty look and feel and the visual graphic aren't that good but you get more of creepy vibe off of it while kf2 has better graphics and visual effect but less of a creepy vibe but more of a variety of zeds.
Well part of it is the sounds. But what people misunderstand is that the KF1 sounds were lower quality sounds that wouldn't sound right with the KF2 weapons. Plus, something people misunderstand about guns in general is that guns don't sound like lil' powerhouses. The bang a gun makes in reality is more like a VERY loud pop. The sound guns make doesn't actually reflect their lethality, the energy that firearms work with is nothing tremendous, the reason they're so lethal is because they insert foreign objects deep into a system (people/other animals) that doesn't work well with holes in it.
Have you ever heard a gun fire in real life? Alot of people that complain that a weapon doesn't sound punchy or powerful have clearly never heard a gun fire. The Stoner LMG that got released recently, people complained that it sounded too weak, turns out, its in game sound is incredibly similar to the real guns firing sound. Kf1s scarH sounds way off compared to the real thing. KF2s is way closer.
say what you will about KF2 but KF is superior in gameplay... in every way possible it's a lot more challenging and rewarding than KF2... also, the guns sound way meatier in the first game... comparing the SCAR and the Trenchgun... well there is no comparison really...
Okay. 1. What you think is challenging is subjective. Someone can think KF2 is harder and more “rewarding” than KF1. 2. Someone might prefer more realistic weapon sounds over more powerful, less immersive sounds. 3. Comparing these games is like comparing two different breeds of dogs. While they’re the same franchise, they’re two very different games and someone might prefer one over the other. You can’t just say that one is better because you think so. That might work for COD but these games both have distinct playstyles and pacing. Don’t treat your opinion as fact when one game is particularly better than the other, just different.
The animations were mo-capped, so either the guy doing the mo-cap just moved a bit too much, or people underestimate how much inertia actual firearms have. I would believe either, though I find people tend to underestimate the weight of firearms.
when you level your perks u get reload speed also some reaload speed perks .. that can lead to ridiculously fast reloads you gonna feel like the Lucky lucke
KF2 Animators and 3D artists did a tremendous job, props to them!
Motion capture wins
@@SOK39 Yes it is motion captured
Feels so glammed up though...
kf1 was spookier... nothing like barn at 3AM... wandering through each cornfield barely able to see. Trader moving insane distances and feeling safe at Traders Village. kf2 is more of an arcade game. i also loved kf1s gun mechanics. so smooth.
VØID I bought kf1 recently because I’m poor as fuck and i see every game i buy as an investment, and hell I’m loving both games, kf1 for me is basically a replacement for Dead space (games that I’ve grinded so they’re not scary anymore).
I still get scared by that damn Farm map. But I like the open area maps more than the closed ones.
both fits
when an indie game 8 years old has better sound design than CoD....
VoDKa 1999 kf was originally a half life mod
Nothing Gamer the first one was
Shots fired.
really? it's not an half life mod genius, plz stop. Originally it's a Unreal Tournament from 2004, there's a HUGE difference with what are u saying...
+Nothing Gamer
Its not indie or AAA for sure.
First one also wasnt indie game.
I think we can all agree they are both great games in their own ways
*FORTNITE IS BETTER*
@@Honse18 stop smoking
@@Maximus20778 okay
Tyrique Sanchez Dude you’re apparently too green to notice an obvious troll, let him be
@@artyom8905 bruh when a person says this in bold I think elwe know already
I recommend that people listen to how some of these guns sound in real life. Many of the KF2 weapons sound a lot like their real life counterparts.
i like the punchier sound effects from killing floor 1. not everything has to be realistic.
Totally agreed dude, +1
Damsen
I disagree completely. Realism can enhance the immersion in a game. Immersion can enhance the overall experience. At least that’s how I think of it.
Damsen
I assure you that putting any semblance of realism in a game that doesn’t necessarily focus on realism won’t obliterate the experience. I don’t consider realistic concepts in videogames to be a bad thing at all, unless it’s done poorly of course.
Think back to Farcry 2, mostly an action packed game that doesn’t entirely focus on pinpoint realism, but it has interesting mechanics like weapon jamming that had implications on gameplay. Things like those are a good example of why realism shouldn’t always be a bad thing in a game.
I’m not saying that every game needs realistic mechanics, but I’m not saying that the game has to be leaning completely on one side either. I think there can be a blend of realistic mechanics that help to better the experience of a non-realistic game, and it shouldn’t be passed off as boring if implemented well. I think it’s great that the guns in KF2 sound like their real counter-parts. It’s doesn’t necessarily affect the gameplay, but it can help immerse the player within the unrealistic setting.
Not getting into the whole 1 vs 2 thing, but I'll just say, 1's animations are fantastic for their era, and with minor tweaks would hold up extremely well today, and I haven't found a game that has as much weapon detail as 2.
Vernon682 arma 3?
I like how the pistol shell casings in KF1 just shoot straight up in the air and rain down around the player. I don't know how realistic that is, but it looks damn cool.
Can't we all just.. like both games?
Cruz Sal24 yeah I agree with that
Hell yeah
Cruz Sal24 (Echoing in further away)NO
Cruz Sal24 it’s a comparison not a competition
I love both killing floor games
KF2 has one the best desert eagles in gaming not only good looking but also actually useful
its undeniable that KF1 still looks great. just some improvents in KF2
Unlike Bethesda, Tripwire manages and accomplishes to get guns right.
TheLastBabyMan Bethesda is horrible at making guns
saw this in the recommended. Saw that you are the guy who uploads the vids with all the weapon animations, sounds, etc. that I've listened or watched over the past few years. Thanks for all the uplaods
Nice compilation, thanks for making this.
In terms of gunfire sounds I feel almost all KF2 guns sound better, with only a small handful exceptions. The KF1 9mm packs a lot more punch and is just much more enjoyable listening to, but apart from that I'd say KF2 is a huge improvement there.
In terms of graphic models KF2 also favors, though only slightly. Some of the KF1 guns actually look better imo, like the Magnum and 9mm. Overall both games look really nice in this department.
Reload animations are for the most part also superior in KF2 I feel, especially if you factor in the speed-reload animations. There are a couple KF1 guns that have a cooler reload anim though, like again the 9mm, mp7 and a couple others.
But reload sounds are almost all superior in KF1 if you ask me. They have more flavor, like little rattles and clicks of the mags banging against the slots, and generally just sound more... crisp. Most of the KF2 reload sounds have less going on and feel more muted and "clean".
09:50 on 0.25 slowmotion the shell ejects from the left side of the gun the fuck
What has been seen cannot be unseen... Tripwire fix plz.
You're absolutely right! It bugs me the whole time since I've seen it
didn't notice it with the trenchgun but with the bolt action rifle it's really bad. I always like how the shell ejects exactly where it should and in KF2 it looks a bit messed up :s
Comander555666 I
lampenpam Maybe it's FOV problem, like with fire in flamethrower.
remember the animations were all rendered at 400 fps so they wouldn't look weird in slow motion
corporal grif 1200 fps
Goddamn the double barrel in kf2 sounds sexy as hell
whaaaaaaaat?
sol ragna gun sound gud.
@gregxcore in the words of the master himself Mr Foster "C'mon you know it's classey"
Colaholic95 classy*
God I hate the iron sights on the m16....everything else about it rocks but those damn iron sights....meh, they look awful.
John clabo I love them!
Bobo ka kasi kinangina moka
Spitfire's light effect when shot on KF1 is so bright. I wish it returns to KF2
Nice video. not full of unnecessary music. I'm not sure which I like more. KF2 looks better (obviously) but it seems a little too fast. idk.
Jake Nash I dunno the two seem about the same with weapon reload speeds.
JosephRipely Yea I just rewatced it and have no idea what I was seeing. The brain is an interesting thing
yeah some of KF2 animations feel a bit speedup, probably because they were changed due to balancing.
Or he's using a skill that speeds up reloads.
The reloads we're heavily sped up to look a lot better in zed time
it's been common thing people always prefer the first...btw i enjoyed both game
KF2 shotguns sound nicer
jesus christ that m4 kick back in kf1 XD
Zachary Goldberg he used the wrong perk
If you have commando its actually manageable
Snowydayss Duhh:] haha 7 months late reply but he was say about the Benelli m4
you can clearly hear the sounds of the old ballistic weapons mod in kf1
i dont know whats going on but the shells of the kf2 weapons seem to fly out anywhere
Especially if there are walls close to you. Since most spent cartridges are ejected towards the right side of the guns(with some exceptions, like P90 for example, the cases are ejected downward instead), they'll also bounce around as well!
Wow .. now that's how to develop a video game!
I know it's not very realistic but i highly prefer KF1 flamethrower i don't now why feels easier to use and the fire spreads nicely
me too, i personally like KF1 weapons more as they look more realistic.
KF1 Flamethrower is a lot more fun, having a lot more range and aiming above zeds because it's affected by gravity.
Actually, the KF1 flamethrower does in fact act more like what real flamethrowers do. It has a much more realistic range.
I loved the flamethrower perk so much more in KF1 as well. I dislike it in KF2, in KF1 you could literally use the flamethrower to snipe over the map. That is not realistic but it was cool, overall the KF2 one is more realistic and fine but its just not as fun anymore/not the same. There are perks that increase the range too and stuff but..yeah, at least it seems like that the other stuff is stronger about it
Snipe across the map with the flamethrower? It didn't have that much range. More like burn zeds at the other end of a long hallway. If you wanted to snipe stuff across the map, you used the Mac 10, Flare Revolver or Husk Cannon :P
Man both these games are so freaking sexy. I wish I had more time for games. Anytime you wanna drop any kind of KF content is good with me.
Wonder ig they add most of KF1 weapon into KF2, the STG 44 and MK23 were part of my fav commando loadout
WHOOOA SHIT when did they add the Flare revolver to KF2? I've been more out of the loop than I thought.
Like March 21st or something
Mrsirr The most recent update. They added the Spitfires alongside the Stoner 63A LMG
i think kf1's guns feel slightly more powerful because of the bullet trails. I kinda wish they made the bullet trails more visible in kf2
Still mad that they took out the MK23.
ZombiePlus they are probably going to add it in later
Yeah like how they're going to add back in the mkb42, ak47, FAL, HSG, M32, MAC-10, husk launcher, and m99 right? right??
Not Eskinor they could possibly be adding them over the incoming months
please lets not give more guns to gunslingers
seriously firebug commando and medic all get like 4 guns, gunslinger has like a pager and a half //
Slowly but surely
Be patient, can't you see the detail on each gun and how it take to develop them?
On a scale of 3rd wave feminism to beyblade, how do you compare Killing Floor 2 to Killing Floor?
LET IT RIP MY NIGGA.
Killing floor is like Bakugan while KF2 is Beyblade
Well considering Pokemon is better than digimon, NOPE
Pink guy
Hypr, the Official Therapist , bakugan is way more cooler than beyblade
I think KF 2 is actualy better but for some reason I never liked it because it didn't feel like KF1.
Same
But Killing Floor 2 is still great game
I love KF2 and find it far better than 1 and to me it also has the same feeling
*sees flamethrower*
NEVERMIND. Well honestly that is the only thing that I dislike and that feels absolutely different >:
YEP
I hate flamethrower in KF2
I love both games!.. these are the games I spent the most time playing out of all my games.
I liked kf1 because there were mods who worth it like in weapons: imi galil or m249 which in kf2 none of them appear. And how the weapon look like in kf2 different from kf1 like the ak47 with that attachment.
I like the Trench Gun animation in KF1 more than KF2.
Opinions of the games aside, the animation improvements from KF1 to KF2 are top notch. 👌
TIL the Field Medic weapons from KF1 became the SWAT weapons in KF2
Holy crap that outro song is awesome.
The KF1 AA12 reload looks better.
Miss the MK 23s
Can't wait for TI to do summer sideshow events again. We need Sheriff Wade back!
KF1 is more intense...the BG sound is better..... the 2nd version should be better..KF2 is overly done.... but playing kf2 feels like im playing FAR CRY....real talk.... the killing floor feels is gone... its more of a FAR CRY ....
kf1 was spookier
Nice seeing some kf footage again :)
floor killers 2 loads better
I still prefer KF1. It's just a nice fun heartfilled game about murdering mutilated clones.
Both of these games are basically interactive gun porn. I cannot wait to get my own PC to get KF1.
KF2 is starting to get interesting. For they recently added the spitfire pistol and the design on it is way better than KF1.
7:54 Destiny's last word xD
FIIIIIIIIIIIIIRST
Jarek4Gaming hiiii imma huge fan luv ur vids
Thanks!
first. the less funny youtube equivilant to 40k's WAAAAAAAAUUUUGGGGG for orkz.
Baker. Ahem. GLORY TO THE EMPEROR
+Hell Hound can you fetch me there souls?
kf1 has more of a rusty look and feel and the visual graphic aren't that good but you get more of creepy vibe off of it while kf2 has better graphics and visual effect but less of a creepy vibe but more of a variety of zeds.
KF2 animations = better
KF1 sounds = better
KF2 gore = better
KFmod atmosphere = better
KF2 melee combat = better
KF1 maps = better
KF1 mods = better
KF2 overall gunplay = better (combined with the gore and tracers/effects, weapon handling and feeling, and alt fires/ablities)
KF1 voice acting = 2x better
KF2 customization = better
so in short, they are basically on equal grounds
Notice how in KF2 he is aiming at the Trader Pod.
I wish they will bring back the dwarf axe for serk it's very useful
I mean, You have the battleaxe, but still, it doesn't knock back Zeds over yo the moon
By comparing the old and new one versions shows, how good the 1st one is.
lel at people being competitive about difficulty, IN A COOP GAME
Starberyl sometimes it can be very difficult
HSG-1 Shotgun is reborn to be HZ12 Multi-Action, can you show the comparison?
Also where is the Pipe Bomb vs C4?
Oh god the handcannon slide @ 12:26 when he reloads D:
They got this part right. The animation team is being held back.
KF1 - Real Men Talks.
KF2 - PG13 framework.
kf2 is awesom...but i had more fun in kf1...i love british humor...and many of that is missing in kf2
Can you showing Claymore vs Zweihander?? I didn't see this comparison in your video.
Everything from animation, sound and overall feeling is better in KF1.
When KF1 weapons actually felt like powerful weapons
MrShadowskinke its probably because of the excessive screenshake in kf1, which a lot of ppl found annoying
Well part of it is the sounds. But what people misunderstand is that the KF1 sounds were lower quality sounds that wouldn't sound right with the KF2 weapons. Plus, something people misunderstand about guns in general is that guns don't sound like lil' powerhouses. The bang a gun makes in reality is more like a VERY loud pop. The sound guns make doesn't actually reflect their lethality, the energy that firearms work with is nothing tremendous, the reason they're so lethal is because they insert foreign objects deep into a system (people/other animals) that doesn't work well with holes in it.
Intensified screenshake in KF1 xD . While real recoil feels like a small throwback and a little upwards ( In the hands of an expert)
When you don't play the game and instead just jumping on bandwagon.
Have you ever heard a gun fire in real life? Alot of people that complain that a weapon doesn't sound punchy or powerful have clearly never heard a gun fire.
The Stoner LMG that got released recently, people complained that it sounded too weak, turns out, its in game sound is incredibly similar to the real guns firing sound.
Kf1s scarH sounds way off compared to the real thing. KF2s is way closer.
Well I'd say those are the similarities lol...
say what you will about KF2 but KF is superior in gameplay... in every way possible it's a lot more challenging and rewarding than KF2... also, the guns sound way meatier in the first game... comparing the SCAR and the Trenchgun... well there is no comparison really...
Okay.
1. What you think is challenging is subjective. Someone can think KF2 is harder and more “rewarding” than KF1.
2. Someone might prefer more realistic weapon sounds over more powerful, less immersive sounds.
3. Comparing these games is like comparing two different breeds of dogs. While they’re the same franchise, they’re two very different games and someone might prefer one over the other. You can’t just say that one is better because you think so. That might work for COD but these games both have distinct playstyles and pacing. Don’t treat your opinion as fact when one game is particularly better than the other, just different.
KF2 has really nice looking guns.
I can imagine kf weapons with old texture in killing floor 2 so as kf 1 zed work with kf2 zed
i miss the good old AK 47 :(
im glad they made the m1014 not crap in kf2.
LAW is so much more satisfying and the shotguns in the first also kickback, 2nd one feels so weak compared to that
I prefer kf1 since any weapon felt powerful unlike kf2 were some weapons were better than others
Some weapons are also much better than others in KF1, too. The whole game is based off weapon tiers for later waves.
I can't believe I've seen the whole video
woah that flame thrower looking sexy kf2 !
Killing floor was a unreal tournament 2004 mod
3:36
mmmmmmh
Kf just needs a ui update and that game is still fun.
What is the map on KF2
KF-SomeTestMap
Available on the Steam Workshop, iirc.
scar gun sounds in KF1 is better.
Killing Floor 1 is more difficult then Killing Floor 2, Because Killing Floor 2 have perk skill, But bolt of Killing Floor game is very fun to play.
On a scale of Black Ops 3 on the 360 to The Last of Us Part II, how much better you guys think KF2 is in comparison to KF?
Keenan Almestica Minecraft.
Grenade launcher sound the same
Is it me or do I prefer the melee system in KF1 than in KF2
Has anyone found the golden pistol in VR KF?
I love the animations in KF2
I really want the muzzle flash effect and lightning from kf1 on kf2
They neeeed to make a multiplayer game with the kf2 engine :D
why does killing floor has more realistic reload animations thank killing floor 2
It doesn't, not even close really. I just think KF2 sped up their reload animations a bit too much.
Jarek4Gaming and the character of KF2 shakes a bit to much after the animation
Crowned Bear just because it speed up the reload time doesn't mean it not realistic
The animations were mo-capped, so either the guy doing the mo-cap just moved a bit too much, or people underestimate how much inertia actual firearms have. I would believe either, though I find people tend to underestimate the weight of firearms.
when you level your perks u get reload speed also some reaload speed perks .. that can lead to ridiculously fast reloads you gonna feel like the Lucky lucke
for me its 1
I love both are good about sound , gunfire , reload animation , design bla bla bla ...
the only thing i love more of the first kf was the characters
Killing floor 2 M16 is the best AR in the game imo
i miss the pistol from kf1 because it felt more powerfull
KILLING FLOOR 1 IS FREE IN HUMBLE STORE RIGHT NOW , thx to me later
KF1 is much better in all aspects.
Simonas Ju no that’s kind of impossible.
Unless u talk about graphic, class balance and about dlc yea kf1 is better.
in break action gun like m79 or dualbarrel , how to know that bullet is been shot or not ? he just look ????
You can tell from just seeing the back of the cartridge, fired cartridge have a dimple on their percussion cap from the striker.
What level are you playing on in kf 1
Tripwire please make a Wild West shooter
real talk, KF2 ak is really bad
Wicked Raptor because they are two different wrapons. He couldnt show'em in this video