This is episode 2 of our series on all things nuclear. This time we are looking at Tomahawk missiles. Please consider supporting the museum with a donation: www.BattleshipNewJersey.org/GIVE
There was a Tomahawk variant used during the first Gulf War that dispensed conductive material. It was used to take out Iraqi power grids without causing massive damage to the grid.
I guess I could chime in here; 1/327 101ABD LRSD 90-01 I was an RTO on a LRSD team calling in those strikes you hear about around 2am in the dirt on CNN. Coalition aircraft had already hit most major sites before we set out from our FOB days before. Part of the shock and awe you saw on TV. Western Baghdad power grid was hit about a day before and the objective was to disable to power to the republican guard and disrupt the movements of Saddam Hussein from the city. Problem is that also shielded US intelligence in deep cover to lose track of his movements. Therefore those weapons were not used in Baghdad. Falluja and Ramadi were blacked out and we were sitting in the desert to the west waiting to enter Baghdad. Again were were called down due to the lack of intelligence. It took days because of the loss of power to track our targets. Eventually south, coalition forces destroyed most of the Iraqi Army and Baghdad was essentially sieged from the south, west, and by the Kurds in the north. This turned into a political standoff by the US president while the US Marines had strong intel saying they knew the location of Hussein but no US forces were going to get anywhere near Baghdad because of the political debacle there.
The Jersey was just west of Catalina. For the Launch of the First Tomahawk missile. There was almost a crowd on the Fan Tail. Bad ass weather, rain and strong winds coming across from Starboard. Then the warning Siren went off. Stay clear of missle mount!! And we all got Scared and Ready to Jump overboard. It Launched in to that wind. And the main rockets didn't fire yet? So there was this Damn Thing. Drifting back to the Jersey, between the Main Stacks . Finally it fired then zoomed away to its Target in the Mojave Desert. We all could Breathe again! LOL A F-16 Was Hot on its Tail. As it was traveling over LA. Any trouble it would be destroyed! All that Damn distance it hit it's target. A huge square of thick concrete with a Target painted in Red on it. Damn Tomahawk was 8 inches off of dead center. LOL
The only way a Tomahawk can launch is from a bolted on rocket booster that gets the missile up to speed. A few seconds after launch the rocket engine detaches, the main jet engine engages and it wings it's way on to the target.
Question for Ryan; First... excellent job you and your team are doing to maintain the Battleship and sharing your knowledge with your excellent TH-cam series...I am making a donation, keep them coming. My Question on this video on the tomahawks; As seen in previous videos t the Navy stripped most of the sensitive electronics and equipment. How was it that they left behind the tomahawk firing control consoles and and computer displays? Happy to see that they're there and you can display them just curious that they were left behind or were they acquired later after the ship arrived? Many thanks and keep up the good work you're doing!
@@garyschultz4606 Those TWCS (Tomahawk Weapons Control System) consoles (nicknamed Green screen) not just out dated, but don't have the programming in them, even if the computers in TER (Tomahawk Equipment Room) are still there. After TWCS came ATWCS (Advanced Tomahawk Weapons Control System) which is what I went to school for. After ATWCS came TTWCS (Tactical Tomahawk Weapons Control System) which is what's currently in the fleet.
Thanks for the reply Rex....I think I got my answer to the Tomahawk Console Displays form a post further down is this tread by one of the Curators that said the consoles a void of any Navy programing and they are just running a made up static radar program of small hard drive if I am repeating the post accurately
Fun story. Shortly before or just after the ship was recommissioned a tour of CEC was being given to several reporters. One managed to get a picture of the NUCLEAR PERM TO FIRE switch. Captain Fogarty got into some minor trouble over that when it was published in the newspapers. That’s why you see a leftover adhesive over those words on the panel. We were ordered to cover up with tape all the references to the nuclear tomahawks.
I thought this was a very comprehensive description of a "modern" weapons system that was able to be retrofitted into the ship. A video describing the strategic concept of the Surface Action Group in the 1980s would be appreciated. Or you can just have Ryan crawl through a Tomahawk launch tube, that would be good too....
I would love a talk about U.S.S Oklahoma City. CLG-5. 1968. He was XO. He is 86 and has dementia. But he loves all your videos. His memory sparks alive. They took fire from coastal guns and they gave it back. Plus missiles and as he says, "Special Missiles " were in board.
The AOU (area of uncertainty) for a TASM didn't allow for good/safe enough targeting. You launch your TASM against an enemy surface warship a couple hundred miles away but the missile detects a cruise ship and kills 500 people.. NOT a good thing! The modern LRASM (Long Range Anti Ship Missile) is designed to not only hit a certain ship hundreds of miles away, but is able to hit a certain area of that ship (magazines, bridge etc). I'm sure the modern Block V Tomahawk will have the same capability.
Speaking of advanced armament have you ever discussed the research done into sub-caliber munitions for the 16" rifles? I think there were different plans for shooting Anything between 8" and 12" diameter munitions with a sabot at incredibly high velocities and ranges. Not only dumb munitions but guided as well.
I can't confirm or deny we had nukes on the Big J but we did swap out many Tomahawks at pier 6 in Long Beach, but there was times we went to seal beach ammo depo and anchored to swap out a few with pretty good police boat coverage. I can't call it yes or no...
My best friend was on BB62 in Long Beach. We lived 50 miles away. Right after it was recommissioned. I heard the stories of the pier getting EXTRA locked down for loading. He hated it, missed a few good nights chasing girls when he got caught on board. He gave me the 5 hour grand tour right after they were coming out of repairs. He was a electrician- still is today.
@@DaveFL5656 She is a Beautiful and Pretty Bad Arss Dreadnought if I must say so myself. I'm 52 now and still think about the time I got to spend on the Big J BB 62 and the Mighty Mo BB 63.
The love asbestos “may be harmful” label.. I think I’d rather smoke 1000 packs of unfiltered cigarettes than stand in a asbestos dust filled room for 10mins..
Kent cigarettes, had a ASBESTOS, filter, in late 50's. Also, I believe, OBA's, in the Navy, the canisters, had Asbestos, to mediate, the absorption, of CO-2, I know we had Asbestos gloves, in the Navy, till 1982, to handle hot OBA, canisters &Hot replacement bearings.
Those labels are just about in every compartment. Probably put there if something in one of the pipe/wire ways couldn't be removed. One of those just in case we missed something. The ships were remediated, I think the NJ was done just before museum status. Ryan addresses it in a few videos.
My dad said that most ships served with A, C, and D on all the ships even carriers. he wouldnt say how many or why or where but he said they all are nuclear armed even if its just one at some point, he served at NWS Goose Creek at the end of his career and served when the BBs were still active.
2 surprising things. 1 the need to calculate the chance of getting a hit with a missile. 2 The inability to reload the missile launchers at sea. You would think that in a war scenario the ability to rearm without returning to port could be important especially since in a nuclear exchange the port may not even exist after the opening of hostilities.
@@baileyparadis1815 There is a theoretical capability to rearm VLS systems at barges or supply ships with suitable cranes. I don't know if anyone has even done so. It's a time consuming and potentially dangerous tasks even in port.
Batten hatches probably. I had a high school friend on a carrier near the Fukushima meltdown and IIRC they used the fire suppression washdown system to clear radioactive particles from the flight deck.
I am close friends with a retired Marine who served aboard USS Missouri for a year before she was decommed. He claims that they had nukes during his deployments as it was his garrison's duty to guard them.
What’s it take to get the original fire control consoles, displays, computers and electronics booted up and running to simulate the operational status? Or do you guys have to simulate the the old systems with newer monitors, etc?
@@BattleshipNewJersey you guys are doing a great job, I love the videos. We all appreciate your efforts to preserve, educate us and display the New Jersey, keep it up!
I liked this one. My grandpa worked on the Tomahawk several times as an engineer for General Dynamics. He told me there was times they had to design parts so they would go down with 100mph tape and cardboard to make it. Keep up the good work!
No fanfare when my sub pulled into Sasebo in the mid eighties, but Greenpeace had quite the reception for New Jersey when she arrived a day or two later. New Zealand also had a problem with. "We can neither confirm or deny........" We had great "interactions" with our New Jersey brothers inport on that WESTPAC.
Being that the United States Navy's Iowa Class Battleship USS. Wisconsin BB-64 fired 28 of her full complement of 32 BGM-109 Tomahawk Land Attack Missiles from her 8 Mk.143 Armored Box Launchers ( 4 Missiles per launcher ) during Operation Desert Storm in 1991, I'm pretty sure the last 4 that where not launched where the BGM-109A Tomahawk Land Attack Missile-Nuclear that where tipped with the W-80 Thermonuclear Warheads. The 28 launched where the conventional 1,000 LB BGM-109C TLAM-Conventional and BGM-109D TLAM-Dispenser with the 166 BLU-114B Bomblets. Interesting observation sometimes tells possibly secrets.
There two types warheads right w-80 can't think other but w-80 have roughly blow ones town to pieces as ICBM and other lower non thermonuclear but roughly like bombs of 45 destroys town does do more specific designed allow specific city destruction while leaving rest of country unharmed of course assuming basically no wind etc so fall out hopefully within blast radius. Lots assuming nukes one certain bad day everyone said city but even w-80 designed prevent all out exchange right? As all out exchange most dead in 90 minutes or less most what left dies of hunger with 6 month to year.
There's an interview video with the man who was in charge of the Tomahawks on BB64 during Desert Storm, he said they had to make a stop to unload 2 missiles before getting to the gulf due to agreements not to have nukes in the region.
I find it hard to believe that an asset as important as a battleship wouldn’t have nukes, if they were designated to carry them. We just don’t get hard proof.
no offense but it's a dialect difference that isn't really a problem for clarity, no different than pronunciations of ask, creek, roof, schedule, aluminium and so on. the media made a big deal about it years ago for political reasons and frankly that was petty.
@@flounder nah, everyone could figure out what he meant, it isn't that big of a problem. sorry you are upset about it though, must be rough having that kind of reaction to a mispronunciation.
My big question is how effective the maritime Tomahawks, or their Soviet counterparts, would really be against the New Jersey's belt armor. I think in another video he discussed multiple layers of thin armor over void spaces and fuel spaces before hitting the main belt. The citadel sounds fairly immune.
I'm not sure about the TASM, but a modern unitary warhead Tomahawk (C or E variant) has a semi-armor piercing warhead that can penetrate about 1.5" of steel before detonating. Considering that the Iowa's are protected by up to 19" of armored steel with 12.25" main belts and 6" citadel below the armored 1.5" deck they wouldn't do much at all.
The Soviet P-15 missile was armed with a 500kg HEAT warhead. In theory 12 inch of steel won’t prevent penetration. In fact even the turret face still can’t defeat such warhead.
I doubt one could penetrate the belt armor even with a direct hit at a 90 degree impact angle. I saw pictures of Bismark's armor belt where 16-inch shells bounced right off, and they carried a lot more punch than the impact of a Tomahawk would due to their mass and velocity. However, a Tomahawk would still be a deadly menace even to a ship like New Jersey because they could target a ship's vulnerable areas. In WW-2, the Italian battleship Roma was sunk by a single, crude, German anti-ship missile that carried a 500 lb. warhead. Tomahawks are a lot deadlier and faster and will seek and destroy their targets on their own whereas the weapons the Germans had were steered remotely to their targets. Cruise missiles often target the hull at the waterline, and New Jersey's full armor belt does not go that far down. With a bow wave forward, and a deep crest aft when the ship is running at high speed, it is likely a Tomahawk could go through the side shell and explode in an engineering space or magazine if it hit the aft half of the hull. That would be a fatal hit. New missiles Russia has can blast right though the armor belt because they weigh as much as 10,000 lbs and strike at speeds in excess of Mach 3. The warhead would not even have to go off to create massive damage and casualties because when an projectile penetrates armor, a piece of the plate and thousands of splinters comes in with the projectile at supersonic or hyper-sonic speeds. These missiles, like armor piercing shells would have fuses that detonate the warhead AFTER the missile gets through the armor. One missile Russia has impacts at nine times the speed of sound. Powerful as New Jersey was, and would be today if she was in service, she would be a tempting target for a Russian Oscar-II or Yasen-M nuclear sub armed with these weapons. BOTH are underwater battleships. Let's hope New Jersey lives on as a memorial to why wars are to be avoided except as a last resort.
Just fire up the Outlaw Shark feed the information into Tomadud* Fire Control and launch the weapon. I was on the USS Guitarro SSN-665 first boat with Mk-117 Fire Control and Harpoon/Tomahawk test platform we had a lot of splashers in the beginning
Speaking of nuclear; has it ever been discussed to give one of the battleships a nuclear powerplant? I know it might be dangerous if it gets hit and spreads glow-at-night-vitamins into the sea, but if it would've gotten an advantage in speed or range it might be possible.
"this is Episode 2 of all nuclear things..." I found the Project Katie episode. What are the other episodes and can you please build a playliste for easy access? Thanks a lot, good Job with the episodes! And please keep filmin!
I never served in the us navy but my great grandpa virgil Warner served on uss Cape Gloucester which is an aircraft carrier back in ww2 and he was q boiler tech. My uncle Mike served in the us navy and so did my uncle Brad. My dad served in the us navy as an AO1. You see. Every one of those guys served on the carriers but my dad has been aboard an iowa class battleship in the 1980s but he wasn't stationed on a battleship. He worked on the carriers putting bombs and missiles on f18s and f14s and his squadron was the vfa 132 which is now decommissioned flight squadron. But I wish I served in the us navy but I had asthma and I have an anger problem so they wont accept me unless they where desperate and started the draft again which I hope that happens and it becomes so desperate they bring back the battleships again. I'm talking when things start getting so desperate they bring back the draft and build the last two of the Iowa's and the five of the montana's and recommission the Iowa's as well. I definitely would serve on the battleships. I dream of becoming super filthy stinking rich I build the last two of the Iowa's and all five of the montana's also get the D.O.D. approved and join the us navy and become the first seaman in the us navy to own Seven battleships making history. I'll even build my own room on every battleship. I now my dreams are twisted but that would definitely be cool. I might make all of them my second homes.
I will say it would be a crummy day to be in combat, and take a hit on the box launcher with a nuclear tipped Tomahawk. No, it wouldn't make a nuclear detonation, but the material spread all over the ship would be a horrible mess to clean up.
Could find out with a Geiger counter if she ever had nuclear ordnance onboard... Although its old enough its possible that there is already enough "stuff" on the steel to raise the noise floor higher.
We use the 5in guns and quad 40 pretty regularly. They would need work to be able to do so efficiently, especially the 5in guns, but they do fire. The modern systems have been totally stripped so nothing can be done without major work there. 16in guns would need some work to get up and running but we deliberately don't touch the systems at all in there so I don't have much info on that for you.
@@gittyupalice96 A Battleship should be able to survive a direct hit from it's own weapons, a direct hit (or a nearby underwater miss) by a nuke the armor belt isn't going to be enough to save the ship.
There was also the end of the Cold War, which also played an even bigger role in the Navy getting out of above surface nukes. The US Navy only retired the nuclear tomahawk a few years ago, even if they weren't deployed aboard ships.
I can promise the us government only said they retired them. I guarantee they have them in cold storage "just in case there needed to be reactivated quickly"
Procedural, certainly. But they probably would all have used the same launch console once the targeting and arming sequences were complete. TLAM-N of course has a lot more safety systems that need to be correctly engaged than TLAM-C, and TASM would require different targeting information. The missiles post launch would also have different flight profiles.
Now that the IMF treaty is no more, and with adversaries building artificial islands to seize international territory and territory from other nations, perhaps having a big armored surface missile boat or 4 would again be practical. There is really nothing like these vessels in existence on earth and refitting one would likely still be cheaper than building anything similar from scratch, although a purpose built vessel might have some advantages, I am not sure we can afford it. It would make an interesting project, could be loaded with dozens of intermediate range missiles and moved about the World as needed to project power and help to keep the greedy thieves of the World at bay.
Stress corrosion and metal fatigue on a nearly 80-year old ship means the turbines, boilers, and all steam piping and fittings would need to be replaced. Less expensive to build something new.
@@tominiowa2513 If I were seriously recommissioning them, I would look gutting them and probably a small nuclear reactor for propulsion to lessen supply logistics in the event of a major war. I believe that would free up considerable space for a given power for more missiles. You might be correct in that it might be cheaper to build new though. Less big conventional guns and more missiles for both offense and defense, as well as possibly a naval version of the SLRC if they can get it to work consistently and accurately. We need to be exploring our options as we can only deter war through strength and if unsuccessful we would need to fight anyway.
@@richhagenchicago - I would not want to operate or be on an operating Iowa class ship unless every critical metal item that posed an immediate safety hazard (e.g., steam piping) if it failed had either been replaced or examined by NDT such as radiographic or ultrasonic methods.
@@BattleshipNewJersey Lol, I can’t remember if I learned that from you or not, come to think of it. I knew they had nuclear artillery shells because of the famous test fire picture of the gun with the mushroom cloud in the distance.... but plans to have the Iowas fire them were news to me.
No. It just means they aren't invulnerable. I can still kill you with a large branch, even though no army still uses them. Situation and Context is everything. :)
@@KB4QAA - That info came from independent sources in Syria, not Russia. More trustworthy than a White House or Pentagon spokeperson (but then what is not more trustworthy than them?).
The contract with the federal government to have USS New Jersey as a museum ship specifies that all exhibits must present the USN in a positive manner. A YouToob video could be considered a form of exhibit.
arggghhhhh Why do so many folks pronounce N U C L E AR as NUCULER ... The power of the atom is produced by actions in the Nucleus of the atom not the Nuculus. Great video though
a lot of guys out in internetland,demonstrate a lot of knwoledge of the subhect followed by or couched with these gens, heard from all education levels, mostly middle school mistakes,in radio the internet social sties .librarians,and political commentators.,,,,expediate ( expedite is correct),,excape,(escape is correct),excetera,(etcetera is correct) axe, ( ask is correct) , preboard,prequalify,preregister take any verb, attach pre, it is unecessary,future plans past history true facts true history,factual history, history is a stand alone word,,normalcy ( because the public insists on using this,merriam webster said : I give,,it gives word status' return to normalcy,return of some semblence of normalcy,, some semblency of normalcy,( judy hsu,abc tv, reporters, have added on to the addons,, mistakes made more so, semblency,roseann tellez, CW wgn9,the second one)heard from all ed levels,radio the net sosh sties librarians,
ecent one mental anguish,,what other kind of anguish is there?
@@jobdylan5782 No, buddy, they don't. I may not be a linguist, but I understand enough about linguistics to know that an "intrusive r" is not the same thing as a clear mispronunciation. The pronunciation "warsh" comes from a rhotic regional dialect in the midwest and northern part of the southern US, much as the pronunciations "lawr" and "drawring" are part of non-rhotic (strangely enough) regional dialects in parts of Britain. On the other hand, pronunciations such as "nuc-u-lar/nuc-ya-ler" for nuclear, "mis-CHEE-vi-ous" for mischievous, and "GREE-vi-ous" for grievous, are mispronunciations. That they are frequently mispronounced even by educated people is a result of the fact that the mispronunciations are mirrored by the correct pronunciations of very common English words, while the correct pronunciations are mirrored only by the correct pronunciations of very uncommon English words. It doesn't mean that the person is dumb. It usually just means that they started mispronouncing the word as a kid and no one bothered to correct them, so it stuck. Oh, and if you were going to bring up the British pronunciation of aluminum as a rebuttal to my reference to mischievous and grievous, save your breath. British people spell it as "aluminium" to correspond with their pronunciation. Next time, maybe do a little research before you start popping off at the mouth with an attitude. www.merriam-webster.com/video/nuclear-vs-nucular-pronunciation
All this while I assumed they'd be in vertical launch cells. I guess not... I am amused that they've set up the display with one "missile" poking through the cover at the end of the tube. I saw the same thing at a Patriot launcher exhibit outside a Dutch air base some years ago - they had the nose of one missile poking through.
The vids are quite interesting. However, for people involved with nuclear power/weapons - Navy Air Force civilian or academic, every time you say new-cue-ler is like nails on a chalkboard. Enunciate "new-klee-er" please and thank you. I can neither confirm nor deny.. that I slept by the warm light of the glowing fishes (in the torpedo room). 🤐😶😉
NOTHING is wrong with new-clee-er physics, quantum mechanics, the LHC, or for that matter, the human genome project. EVERYTHING is wrong with sounding uneducated by saying new-cue-ler. Ryan is NOT dumb, we just want him to sound like it. AND I did say please and thank you.
The variants are known as block missiles. Altitude max was 50 meters and flew directly into target. They do not pop up like a harpoon missile. They had internal navigation GPS. And also flew nap of the earth. And they traveled around 500 mph Mach .7 . Reason why they don’t pop up is to not get tracked by enemy radar. Also they have uplinks to update the struck package from satellites. The weapon system is highly effective and accurate. Research the systems. Why make a video if your not doing research? Makes zero sense. Don’t get me wrong I like the videos but man please do some research! Or at least ask for a retired GMM for reference.
I can speak with some experience here - a Tomahawk mission planning operation (exercise or live) was a huge undertaking - even if it was only a conventional attack. The Weps (officer) needed about a half-bottle of aspirin before the exercise even began (whiskey wasn't allowed - probably still isn't) .... the missile crew could get by with ... maybe a quarter-bottle, apiece .... and the dosing usually started at revile if it was an planned exercise .... And Ryan? You're pronouncing the word "fortnight" properly .... the least you can do is pronounce "nuclear" properly too!!! We KNOW you know how!! :D :D :D
All the exercises that I participated in were usually a 3 to 4 hour scenario. I worked my way up to AECO (Assistant Engagement Control Officer) on the USS Momsen DDG-92 and kept it on the USS Halsey DDG-97. On deployment we'd practice 2 to 3 times a week, receiving our marching orders from the carrier we were escorting, or one that happened to be in the area once. (USS Ronald Reagan CVN-76 or USS Abraham Lincoln CVN-72).
wow you justify us aggression and "police actions" so how viet nam feel how bout korea somalia afghanistan libya little big horn or the alamo the list of us failures is long.
Let's be real here, rogue mercenaries don't disguise themselves as a rock band and caterers just to steal conventional weapons.
"Do you really know what all those little red lights are for?"
Is that the one with the Erika eleniak Bday cake?
@@shaider1982 that would be the one...
Watch out for the cook and the microwave oven
@@shaider1982 She was "NAKED", in that Movie ! Under Siege ! I saw 'BOOBS" !
There was a Tomahawk variant used during the first Gulf War that dispensed conductive material. It was used to take out Iraqi power grids without causing massive damage to the grid.
Variant of the D model I believe.
Now that's cool.
after some googling it was the "BLU-114/B" bomblet
From what I heard (somewhere) it was graphite. But they are still active weapons I suppose so I guess they are classified.
I guess I could chime in here; 1/327 101ABD LRSD 90-01 I was an RTO on a LRSD team calling in those strikes you hear about around 2am in the dirt on CNN. Coalition aircraft had already hit most major sites before we set out from our FOB days before. Part of the shock and awe you saw on TV. Western Baghdad power grid was hit about a day before and the objective was to disable to power to the republican guard and disrupt the movements of Saddam Hussein from the city. Problem is that also shielded US intelligence in deep cover to lose track of his movements. Therefore those weapons were not used in Baghdad. Falluja and Ramadi were blacked out and we were sitting in the desert to the west waiting to enter Baghdad. Again were were called down due to the lack of intelligence. It took days because of the loss of power to track our targets. Eventually south, coalition forces destroyed most of the Iraqi Army and Baghdad was essentially sieged from the south, west, and by the Kurds in the north. This turned into a political standoff by the US president while the US Marines had strong intel saying they knew the location of Hussein but no US forces were going to get anywhere near Baghdad because of the political debacle there.
What did George Custer and Saddam have in common?
Both were wondering where all them tomahawks were coming from
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The Jersey was just west of Catalina. For the Launch of the First Tomahawk missile. There was almost a crowd on the Fan Tail.
Bad ass weather, rain and strong winds coming across from Starboard.
Then the warning Siren went off. Stay clear of missle mount!!
And we all got Scared and Ready to Jump overboard.
It Launched in to that wind. And the main rockets didn't fire yet? So there was this Damn Thing. Drifting back to the Jersey, between the Main Stacks .
Finally it fired then zoomed away to its Target in the Mojave Desert. We all could Breathe again! LOL
A F-16 Was Hot on its Tail. As it was traveling over LA. Any trouble it would be destroyed!
All that Damn distance it hit it's target. A huge square of thick concrete with a Target painted in Red on it.
Damn Tomahawk was 8 inches off of dead center. LOL
America rocks.
The only way a Tomahawk can launch is from a bolted on rocket booster that gets the missile up to speed. A few seconds after launch the rocket engine detaches, the main jet engine engages and it wings it's way on to the target.
Question for Ryan;
First... excellent job you and your team are doing to maintain the Battleship and sharing your knowledge with your excellent TH-cam series...I am making a donation, keep them coming.
My Question on this video on the tomahawks;
As seen in previous videos t the Navy stripped most of the sensitive electronics and equipment. How was it that they left behind the tomahawk firing control consoles and and computer displays? Happy to see that they're there and you can display them just curious that they were left behind or were they acquired later after the ship arrived?
Many thanks and keep up the good work you're doing!
@@garyschultz4606 Those TWCS (Tomahawk Weapons Control System) consoles (nicknamed Green screen) not just out dated, but don't have the programming in them, even if the computers in TER (Tomahawk Equipment Room) are still there. After TWCS came ATWCS (Advanced Tomahawk Weapons Control System) which is what I went to school for. After ATWCS came TTWCS (Tactical Tomahawk Weapons Control System) which is what's currently in the fleet.
Thanks for the reply Rex....I think I got my answer to the Tomahawk Console Displays form a post further down is this tread by one of the Curators that said the consoles a void of any Navy programing and they are just running a made up static radar program of small hard drive if I am repeating the post accurately
Fun story. Shortly before or just after the ship was recommissioned a tour of CEC was being given to several reporters. One managed to get a picture of the NUCLEAR PERM TO FIRE switch. Captain Fogarty got into some minor trouble over that when it was published in the newspapers. That’s why you see a leftover adhesive over those words on the panel. We were ordered to cover up with tape all the references to the nuclear tomahawks.
I thought this was a very comprehensive description of a "modern" weapons system that was able to be retrofitted into the ship. A video describing the strategic concept of the Surface Action Group in the 1980s would be appreciated. Or you can just have Ryan crawl through a Tomahawk launch tube, that would be good too....
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I would love a talk about U.S.S Oklahoma City. CLG-5. 1968. He was XO. He is 86 and has dementia. But he loves all your videos. His memory sparks alive. They took fire from coastal guns and they gave it back. Plus missiles and as he says, "Special Missiles " were in board.
My uncle.
“If it’s below 90%, it may not be worth taking a shot”
They use the XCOM model for hit probability i see
99% chance to hit, miss..
NOFORN...but TH-cam is fine.
The AOU (area of uncertainty) for a TASM didn't allow for good/safe enough targeting. You launch your TASM against an enemy surface warship a couple hundred miles away but the missile detects a cruise ship and kills 500 people.. NOT a good thing! The modern LRASM (Long Range Anti Ship Missile) is designed to not only hit a certain ship hundreds of miles away, but is able to hit a certain area of that ship (magazines, bridge etc). I'm sure the modern Block V Tomahawk will have the same capability.
Speaking of advanced armament have you ever discussed the research done into sub-caliber munitions for the 16" rifles? I think there were different plans for shooting Anything between 8" and 12" diameter munitions with a sabot at incredibly high velocities and ranges. Not only dumb munitions but guided as well.
"Dumb but guided"... I think I've been described the same way...
I can't confirm or deny we had nukes on the Big J but we did swap out many Tomahawks at pier 6 in Long Beach, but there was times we went to seal beach ammo depo and anchored to swap out a few with pretty good police boat coverage. I can't call it yes or no...
Plot twist: the unloading at Seal Beach was decoys; the real ones went ashore under normal conditions to hide in plain sight 😉
My best friend was on BB62 in Long Beach. We lived 50 miles away. Right after it was recommissioned. I heard the stories of the pier getting EXTRA locked down for loading. He hated it, missed a few good nights chasing girls when he got caught on board.
He gave me the 5 hour grand tour right after they were coming out of repairs.
He was a electrician- still is today.
@@DaveFL5656 She is a Beautiful and Pretty Bad Arss Dreadnought if I must say so myself. I'm 52 now and still think about the time I got to spend on the Big J BB 62 and the Mighty Mo BB 63.
The love asbestos “may be harmful” label.. I think I’d rather smoke 1000 packs of unfiltered cigarettes than stand in a asbestos dust filled room for 10mins..
Kent cigarettes, had a ASBESTOS, filter, in late 50's. Also, I believe, OBA's, in the Navy, the canisters, had Asbestos, to mediate, the absorption, of CO-2, I know we had Asbestos gloves, in the Navy, till 1982, to handle hot OBA, canisters &Hot replacement bearings.
Those labels are just about in every compartment. Probably put there if something in one of the pipe/wire ways couldn't be removed. One of those just in case we missed something. The ships were remediated, I think the NJ was done just before museum status. Ryan addresses it in a few videos.
Asbestos only attacks you if you attack it. Leave it alone and it is harmless forever
My dad said that most ships served with A, C, and D on all the ships even carriers. he wouldnt say how many or why or where but he said they all are nuclear armed even if its just one at some point, he served at NWS Goose Creek at the end of his career and served when the BBs were still active.
Carriers can't carry Tomahawk.
2 surprising things. 1 the need to calculate the chance of getting a hit with a missile. 2 The inability to reload the missile launchers at sea. You would think that in a war scenario the ability to rearm without returning to port could be important especially since in a nuclear exchange the port may not even exist after the opening of hostilities.
As he said the installation on this ship was only bridging a short time gap.
As far as I'm aware, no other warship has the ability to reload a missile like the tomahawk underway.
@@baileyparadis1815 There is a theoretical capability to rearm VLS systems at barges or supply ships with suitable cranes. I don't know if anyone has even done so. It's a time consuming and potentially dangerous tasks even in port.
One issue would be storage. these are large rockets.
We made the Va868c microwave klystron tube amplifier. Was a test technician.
What sort of NBC protective systems does the battleship have?
Batten hatches probably. I had a high school friend on a carrier near the Fukushima meltdown and IIRC they used the fire suppression washdown system to clear radioactive particles from the flight deck.
Here are the details for you folks: th-cam.com/video/o8g0D8l2lrY/w-d-xo.html
Please- in the future, on tours, say: “Nu-clear” pronounced “new-clear”… not new-cue-lar.
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Good show! Thanks for taking the time to share how the various components of New Jersey operated.
I am close friends with a retired Marine who served aboard USS Missouri for a year before she was decommed. He claims that they had nukes during his deployments as it was his garrison's duty to guard them.
What’s it take to get the original fire control consoles, displays, computers and electronics booted up and running to simulate the operational status? Or do you guys have to simulate the the old systems with newer monitors, etc?
These are simulations with new monitors running basically DVDs. The original systems were gutted by the navy.
@@BattleshipNewJersey you guys are doing a great job, I love the videos.
We all appreciate your efforts to preserve, educate us and display the New Jersey, keep it up!
the range of the tomahawk is at least 800 miles for variant d the a version updated is over 1500 miles, and has a 1000 lb warhead
I’m just like you. I use the George Bush “Nucular” pronunciation. 😁
Nice work on these videos, really enjoying them.
I liked this one. My grandpa worked on the Tomahawk several times as an engineer for General Dynamics. He told me there was times they had to design parts so they would go down with 100mph tape and cardboard to make it. Keep up the good work!
I have to correct you on one thing, weapons don't conduct foreign policy. They conduct f-you policy. At least that's what we always said.
1:29 Come to find out, the entire system was ran on a Tandy TRS 80.
Nuclear weapons! Aliens hate these! Go to war with space.... PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!
No fanfare when my sub pulled into Sasebo in the mid eighties, but Greenpeace had quite the reception for New Jersey when she arrived a day or two later. New Zealand also had a problem with. "We can neither confirm or deny........" We had great "interactions" with our New Jersey brothers inport on that WESTPAC.
How many 16 in rounds could you shoot for the price of one tomahawk?
Being that the United States Navy's Iowa Class Battleship USS. Wisconsin BB-64 fired 28 of her full complement of 32 BGM-109 Tomahawk Land Attack Missiles from her 8 Mk.143 Armored Box Launchers ( 4 Missiles per launcher ) during Operation Desert Storm in 1991, I'm pretty sure the last 4 that where not launched where the BGM-109A Tomahawk Land Attack Missile-Nuclear that where tipped with the W-80 Thermonuclear Warheads. The 28 launched where the conventional 1,000 LB BGM-109C TLAM-Conventional and BGM-109D TLAM-Dispenser with the 166 BLU-114B Bomblets. Interesting observation sometimes tells possibly secrets.
There two types warheads right w-80 can't think other but w-80 have roughly blow ones town to pieces as ICBM and other lower non thermonuclear but roughly like bombs of 45 destroys town does do more specific designed allow specific city destruction while leaving rest of country unharmed of course assuming basically no wind etc so fall out hopefully within blast radius. Lots assuming nukes one certain bad day everyone said city but even w-80 designed prevent all out exchange right? As all out exchange most dead in 90 minutes or less most what left dies of hunger with 6 month to year.
There's an interview video with the man who was in charge of the Tomahawks on BB64 during Desert Storm, he said they had to make a stop to unload 2 missiles before getting to the gulf due to agreements not to have nukes in the region.
"The US Navy will neither confirm nor deny the existence of nuclear weapons." Suuuuuuuurrrrrrrrreeeeeeeee we believe that
I find it hard to believe that an asset as important as a battleship wouldn’t have nukes, if they were designated to carry them. We just don’t get hard proof.
@@brianpayne4549 just ask sailors...
Long ago I heard somebody say "Nuclear Tomahawks don't use terrain recognition because these things tend to reconfigure the terrain."
It's Nuclear, not Nukuler...
Good videos though!
Go away jeebus
@@Make-Asylums-Great-Again sure, ok
@@jeebus6263 awesome
I LOVE all your videos. Keep making them. One request. The word is N-u-c-l-e-a-r. Not n-u-c-u-l-a-r.
no offense but it's a dialect difference that isn't really a problem for clarity, no different than pronunciations of ask, creek, roof, schedule, aluminium and so on. the media made a big deal about it years ago for political reasons and frankly that was petty.
@@flounder nah, everyone could figure out what he meant, it isn't that big of a problem. sorry you are upset about it though, must be rough having that kind of reaction to a mispronunciation.
My big question is how effective the maritime Tomahawks, or their Soviet counterparts, would really be against the New Jersey's belt armor. I think in another video he discussed multiple layers of thin armor over void spaces and fuel spaces before hitting the main belt. The citadel sounds fairly immune.
I'm not sure about the TASM, but a modern unitary warhead Tomahawk (C or E variant) has a semi-armor piercing warhead that can penetrate about 1.5" of steel before detonating. Considering that the Iowa's are protected by up to 19" of armored steel with 12.25" main belts and 6" citadel below the armored 1.5" deck they wouldn't do much at all.
The Soviet P-15 missile was armed with a 500kg HEAT warhead. In theory 12 inch of steel won’t prevent penetration. In fact even the turret face still can’t defeat such warhead.
I doubt one could penetrate the belt armor even with a direct hit at a 90 degree impact angle. I saw pictures of Bismark's armor belt where 16-inch shells bounced right off, and they carried a lot more punch than the impact of a Tomahawk would due to their mass and velocity. However, a Tomahawk would still be a deadly menace even to a ship like New Jersey because they could target a ship's vulnerable areas. In WW-2, the Italian battleship Roma was sunk by a single, crude, German anti-ship missile that carried a 500 lb. warhead. Tomahawks are a lot deadlier and faster and will seek and destroy their targets on their own whereas the weapons the Germans had were steered remotely to their targets. Cruise missiles often target the hull at the waterline, and New Jersey's full armor belt does not go that far down. With a bow wave forward, and a deep crest aft when the ship is running at high speed, it is likely a Tomahawk could go through the side shell and explode in an engineering space or magazine if it hit the aft half of the hull. That would be a fatal hit. New missiles Russia has can blast right though the armor belt because they weigh as much as 10,000 lbs and strike at speeds in excess of Mach 3. The warhead would not even have to go off to create massive damage and casualties because when an projectile penetrates armor, a piece of the plate and thousands of splinters comes in with the projectile at supersonic or hyper-sonic speeds. These missiles, like armor piercing shells would have fuses that detonate the warhead AFTER the missile gets through the armor. One missile Russia has impacts at nine times the speed of sound. Powerful as New Jersey was, and would be today if she was in service, she would be a tempting target for a Russian Oscar-II or Yasen-M nuclear sub armed with these weapons. BOTH are underwater battleships. Let's hope New Jersey lives on as a memorial to why wars are to be avoided except as a last resort.
Nuclear is pronounced "new-klee-urr", NOT "nuke-you-lurr". Just like it's spelled. Even the Navy gets this wrong.
Thanks Dennis, you have made a major contribution.
@@Make-Asylums-Great-Again - Just doin' my part.
I can neither confirm nor deny the presence of "willy nilly," launch controls on any United States Navy vessel.
Scary an old Commodore 64 can annihilate a country and make it a parking lot.
If only you could launch some of those BGM-109s at New Jersey right?
Omg your codpiece is back 😫
um, stop staring? rude.
What’s the things on the box launcher doors?
New-clee-ar. Dammit. Not nucular
Just fire up the Outlaw Shark feed the information into Tomadud* Fire Control and launch the weapon. I was on the USS Guitarro SSN-665 first boat with Mk-117 Fire Control and Harpoon/Tomahawk test platform we had a lot of splashers in the beginning
1200 X 1.8M = Oh my............
Imagine doing a tour and saying to everyone this is how we fire the missiles we press this button and oh s@#T
Neuclear tomahawk = angry flying hissing stick,,,,
Speaking of nuclear; has it ever been discussed to give one of the battleships a nuclear powerplant? I know it might be dangerous if it gets hit and spreads glow-at-night-vitamins into the sea, but if it would've gotten an advantage in speed or range it might be possible.
"this is Episode 2 of all nuclear things..." I found the Project Katie episode. What are the other episodes and can you please build a playliste for easy access? Thanks a lot, good Job with the episodes! And please keep filmin!
Here is our Nuclear Playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLALOZV63REevTETr4ukgSEc4oAtFCU_q-.html
@@BattleshipNewJersey Thank you very much! Looking forward to seeing the other episodes.
Is it rue that each Tomahawk has a highly trained gerbil pilot that punches out just before impact?
That's neither confirmed nor denied
"Nucular! It's pronounced nucular." ☝️
Do you have any videos that talk about the "casualty power" systems?
Check this out th-cam.com/video/yeiiHAJUurE/w-d-xo.html
Why do you think that New Jersey had a Marine Detachment?
I never served in the us navy but my great grandpa virgil Warner served on uss Cape Gloucester which is an aircraft carrier back in ww2 and he was q boiler tech. My uncle Mike served in the us navy and so did my uncle Brad. My dad served in the us navy as an AO1. You see. Every one of those guys served on the carriers but my dad has been aboard an iowa class battleship in the 1980s but he wasn't stationed on a battleship. He worked on the carriers putting bombs and missiles on f18s and f14s and his squadron was the vfa 132 which is now decommissioned flight squadron. But I wish I served in the us navy but I had asthma and I have an anger problem so they wont accept me unless they where desperate and started the draft again which I hope that happens and it becomes so desperate they bring back the battleships again. I'm talking when things start getting so desperate they bring back the draft and build the last two of the Iowa's and the five of the montana's and recommission the Iowa's as well. I definitely would serve on the battleships. I dream of becoming super filthy stinking rich I build the last two of the Iowa's and all five of the montana's also get the D.O.D. approved and join the us navy and become the first seaman in the us navy to own Seven battleships making history. I'll even build my own room on every battleship. I now my dreams are twisted but that would definitely be cool. I might make all of them my second homes.
did he really say "in the 1980s tomahawks came in 3 different flavours"
timestamp : 1:53
I will say it would be a crummy day to be in combat, and take a hit on the box launcher with a nuclear tipped Tomahawk. No, it wouldn't make a nuclear detonation, but the material spread all over the ship would be a horrible mess to clean up.
I love the channel, but the camera is TERRIBLE!! It was driving my crazy in the low light, it keep fluctuating the picture.
It’s all fine until CPO Ryback thwarts your plans.
Could find out with a Geiger counter if she ever had nuclear ordnance onboard... Although its old enough its possible that there is already enough "stuff" on the steel to raise the noise floor higher.
Its possible that none of them were nuculear… but i suspect some of them probably nuclear.
New-clear******
What weapon systems on the battleship could still function? Given the correct lubrication, cleaning and power without adding to much equipment.
We use the 5in guns and quad 40 pretty regularly. They would need work to be able to do so efficiently, especially the 5in guns, but they do fire. The modern systems have been totally stripped so nothing can be done without major work there. 16in guns would need some work to get up and running but we deliberately don't touch the systems at all in there so I don't have much info on that for you.
@@BattleshipNewJersey Wouldn't want a "Vixen 03" scenario.
@@darcywiley5096 Just read the plot of that book. What a bad bad bad story, LOL.
@@BattleshipNewJersey do you maintain and lubricate the mechanisms inside the 16in turrets?
We don't touch the equipment associated with the main guns at all.
Oh yeah!
Should the Iowas been reclassified as Batllecruisers once they went nuclear?
I don't believe with the 16" armor belt, and 9 x 16" guns could it be considered a cruiser of any type.
@@gittyupalice96 A Battleship should be able to survive a direct hit from it's own weapons, a direct hit (or a nearby underwater miss) by a nuke the armor belt isn't going to be enough to save the ship.
They probably did have nukes
There was also the end of the Cold War, which also played an even bigger role in the Navy getting out of above surface nukes. The US Navy only retired the nuclear tomahawk a few years ago, even if they weren't deployed aboard ships.
I can promise the us government only said they retired them. I guarantee they have them in cold storage "just in case there needed to be reactivated quickly"
Very very informative, thank you sir.
Did launching of Tomahawks differ by type?
Procedural, certainly.
But they probably would all have used the same launch console once the targeting and arming sequences were complete.
TLAM-N of course has a lot more safety systems that need to be correctly engaged than TLAM-C, and TASM would require different targeting information.
The missiles post launch would also have different flight profiles.
Now that the IMF treaty is no more, and with adversaries building artificial islands to seize international territory and territory from other nations, perhaps having a big armored surface missile boat or 4 would again be practical. There is really nothing like these vessels in existence on earth and refitting one would likely still be cheaper than building anything similar from scratch, although a purpose built vessel might have some advantages, I am not sure we can afford it. It would make an interesting project, could be loaded with dozens of intermediate range missiles and moved about the World as needed to project power and help to keep the greedy thieves of the World at bay.
Stress corrosion and metal fatigue on a nearly 80-year old ship means the turbines, boilers, and all steam piping and fittings would need to be replaced. Less expensive to build something new.
@@tominiowa2513 If I were seriously recommissioning them, I would look gutting them and probably a small nuclear reactor for propulsion to lessen supply logistics in the event of a major war. I believe that would free up considerable space for a given power for more missiles. You might be correct in that it might be cheaper to build new though. Less big conventional guns and more missiles for both offense and defense, as well as possibly a naval version of the SLRC if they can get it to work consistently and accurately. We need to be exploring our options as we can only deter war through strength and if unsuccessful we would need to fight anyway.
@@richhagenchicago - I would not want to operate or be on an operating Iowa class ship unless every critical metal item that posed an immediate safety hazard (e.g., steam piping) if it failed had either been replaced or examined by NDT such as radiographic or ultrasonic methods.
The guns could theoretically also fire nuclear artillery shells while they existed.
Heres our video about that th-cam.com/video/Pq3WYY9Aiys/w-d-xo.html
@@BattleshipNewJersey Lol, I can’t remember if I learned that from you or not, come to think of it. I knew they had nuclear artillery shells because of the famous test fire picture of the gun with the mushroom cloud in the distance.... but plans to have the Iowas fire them were news to me.
ahh yes - the TLAM-N.....
N U C U L A R
Tomahawks are outdated. Look how many got shot down in Syria
No. It just means they aren't invulnerable. I can still kill you with a large branch, even though no army still uses them. Situation and Context is everything. :)
Think of the Raytheon stockholders! $100M+ to replace all those outdated versions the Russians caused to crash in the desert.
@@tominiowa2513 The Russians didn't 'crash" any Tomahawks. Stop buying their propaganda. US satellite photos showed they hit their targets.
@@KB4QAA - That info came from independent sources in Syria, not Russia. More trustworthy than a White House or Pentagon spokeperson (but then what is not more trustworthy than them?).
@@tominiowa2513 Oh sure. Syrian sources who are slaughtering their own population are trustworthy. SAP must be your middle name.
If you could modernize the iowa class what would you do to them
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Blink three times fast if you're not allowed to say anything against the US Navy.
The contract with the federal government to have USS New Jersey as a museum ship specifies that all exhibits must present the USN in a positive manner. A YouToob video could be considered a form of exhibit.
arggghhhhh Why do so many folks pronounce N U C L E AR as NUCULER ... The power of the atom is produced by actions in the Nucleus of the atom not the Nuculus. Great video though
it is called an accent.
Atlantians Gaming that’s not how accents work. They don’t change the order of letters in words. It’s just a straight-up mispronunciation.
a lot of guys out in internetland,demonstrate a lot of knwoledge of the subhect followed by or couched with these gens, heard from all education levels, mostly middle school mistakes,in radio the internet social sties .librarians,and political commentators.,,,,expediate ( expedite is correct),,excape,(escape is correct),excetera,(etcetera is correct) axe, ( ask is correct) , preboard,prequalify,preregister take any verb, attach pre, it is unecessary,future plans past history true facts true history,factual history, history is a stand alone word,,normalcy ( because the public insists on using this,merriam webster said : I give,,it gives word status' return to normalcy,return of some semblence of normalcy,, some semblency of normalcy,( judy hsu,abc tv, reporters, have added on to the addons,, mistakes made more so, semblency,roseann tellez, CW wgn9,the second one)heard from all ed levels,radio the net sosh sties librarians,
ecent one mental anguish,,what other kind of anguish is there?
@@bluemarlin8138 Yes they do. You're clearly no linguist. Ever hear someone say they're going to "warsh" the dishes? Get over yourself buddy
@@jobdylan5782 No, buddy, they don't. I may not be a linguist, but I understand enough about linguistics to know that an "intrusive r" is not the same thing as a clear mispronunciation. The pronunciation "warsh" comes from a rhotic regional dialect in the midwest and northern part of the southern US, much as the pronunciations "lawr" and "drawring" are part of non-rhotic (strangely enough) regional dialects in parts of Britain. On the other hand, pronunciations such as "nuc-u-lar/nuc-ya-ler" for nuclear, "mis-CHEE-vi-ous" for mischievous, and "GREE-vi-ous" for grievous, are mispronunciations. That they are frequently mispronounced even by educated people is a result of the fact that the mispronunciations are mirrored by the correct pronunciations of very common English words, while the correct pronunciations are mirrored only by the correct pronunciations of very uncommon English words. It doesn't mean that the person is dumb. It usually just means that they started mispronouncing the word as a kid and no one bothered to correct them, so it stuck.
Oh, and if you were going to bring up the British pronunciation of aluminum as a rebuttal to my reference to mischievous and grievous, save your breath. British people spell it as "aluminium" to correspond with their pronunciation.
Next time, maybe do a little research before you start popping off at the mouth with an attitude.
www.merriam-webster.com/video/nuclear-vs-nucular-pronunciation
All this while I assumed they'd be in vertical launch cells. I guess not... I am amused that they've set up the display with one "missile" poking through the cover at the end of the tube. I saw the same thing at a Patriot launcher exhibit outside a Dutch air base some years ago - they had the nose of one missile poking through.
For God's sake the word is nuc-lear!!!!!
oh shut up it's irrelevant
The vids are quite interesting. However, for people involved with nuclear power/weapons - Navy Air Force civilian or academic, every time you say new-cue-ler is like nails on a chalkboard. Enunciate "new-klee-er" please and thank you.
I can neither confirm nor deny.. that I slept by the warm light of the glowing fishes (in the torpedo room). 🤐😶😉
Agreed! Ryan: It's "new-clear" - just remember, "nuclear" is "unclear" spelled sideways! :)
We have the pronunciation police on full alert
NOTHING is wrong with new-clee-er physics, quantum mechanics, the LHC, or for that matter, the human genome project. EVERYTHING is wrong with sounding uneducated by saying new-cue-ler. Ryan is NOT dumb, we just want him to
sound like it. AND I did say please and thank you.
my first and only complaint of your videos, its "new clear". otherwise keep up the amazing work.
The variants are known as block missiles. Altitude max was 50 meters and flew directly into target. They do not pop up like a harpoon missile. They had internal navigation GPS. And also flew nap of the earth. And they traveled around 500 mph Mach .7 . Reason why they don’t pop up is to not get tracked by enemy radar. Also they have uplinks to update the struck package from satellites. The weapon system is highly effective and accurate. Research the systems. Why make a video if your not doing research? Makes zero sense. Don’t get me wrong I like the videos but man please do some research! Or at least ask for a retired GMM for reference.
I counted at least 4 things wrong with this.
I can speak with some experience here - a Tomahawk mission planning operation (exercise or live) was a huge undertaking - even if it was only a conventional attack. The Weps (officer) needed about a half-bottle of aspirin before the exercise even began (whiskey wasn't allowed - probably still isn't) .... the missile crew could get by with ... maybe a quarter-bottle, apiece .... and the dosing usually started at revile if it was an planned exercise .... And Ryan? You're pronouncing the word "fortnight" properly .... the least you can do is pronounce "nuclear" properly too!!! We KNOW you know how!! :D :D :D
All the exercises that I participated in were usually a 3 to 4 hour scenario. I worked my way up to AECO (Assistant Engagement Control Officer) on the USS Momsen DDG-92 and kept it on the USS Halsey DDG-97. On deployment we'd practice 2 to 3 times a week, receiving our marching orders from the carrier we were escorting, or one that happened to be in the area once. (USS Ronald Reagan CVN-76 or USS Abraham Lincoln CVN-72).
wow you justify us aggression and "police actions" so how viet nam feel how bout korea somalia afghanistan libya little big horn or the alamo the list of us failures is long.
Nuclear isn’t that hard to pronounce correctly.
Almost as hard as nucular lol. Kinda the same thing as the infamous cadillac converter. Those pesky catalytic things
it is called 'an accent'. Get one.
@@AtlantiansGaming hillbilly accent, check
When it goes off it will be very Obvious what kind of Tomahawk it WAS!! LOL
@@hoss3433 your mother hates you.
Ryan, Ryan, Ryan.....you’re the curator...you should know the difference between nuclear and nucular (wrong)...🙄