Ppl always call me mad for using the Warriors armor package, that the weight "isn't worth it" I cannot count how many times those composites actually ended up saving me from things like auto cannons and explosive rounds xD
I varies from vehicle to vehicle, Warrior's add on is probably worth it, but vehicles like the centauro romor or stryker are definitely hindered by their add on because of how little it protects them and how much it impacts their speed (which in those vehicles is very important). It probably doesn't matter on the BVM because the package doesn't really impact the tank's power to weight and it seems to offer pretty decent protection but who knows honestly.
@@deathsgrim6895 I've played a lot of stryker, I think the slat armor saves me maybe 1/100 times and its completely useless against apfsds which is mostly what you fight. Regardless, you also have to realize the extent to which it decreases your horsepower per ton. Currently, the styker is barely faster than the MBTs it fights, especially off road, which means that your ability to actually position yourself and play like other wheeled vehicles can is severely limited. I don't think they should remove it, but an option to take it off would be really nice
The best thing about the Chinese/Russian MBT stock grind is that you can just use HE shells. And if that isn't saying anything about how absolute _garbage_ HEAT-FS at top tier is then I don't know what is.
I was never a fan of the T-80, till seeing one of the more recent packages on video in a current event eat about 5 Javelin and 3 Kornet strikes while successfully running off and eviscerating the infantry that had taken the shots. Not saying whom, but not whom the biggest voices we hear in the west would say for certain. those tanks are pretty much the last I would wish to encounter as infantry, and the T90m with its remote machinegun looks nasty too.
T-80BVM: -weight: 42 tons -protection: 700-800mm both on the hull and the turret except the weakspots. M1A2: -Weight: 62 tons - Protection: >700mm on the turret cheeks, >400mm on the hull. Thats some peek calculations and logic Gajin💀💀
for some reason those ERA plates on the sides are modeled as one in the damage model so its actual chemical protection is like 600mm in total which makes me kinda sad tbh
Yeah I wondered about this - as it is 2 x 600 mm. So it should beat HOTs and stuff. Probably they modeled it together for simplicity, like the two separate engines modeled as one of the S-tank.
@@majo3488 yea tbh i would love to see them fix this but in all honesty i think the last thing the BVM needs is another armor buff because its already arguably the best all rounder MBT at top tier rn and still has really good stats despite it being out for like what 4 months now?
@@monkeypuppies444 My stats in BVM (got over 500 kills in it and died 400 times) are similar to T-80U. The best thing is the improved vertical targeting speed. The newer generation thermal is more for the eyes then for actual performance. I just use thermal to spot targets in the woods or when playing at night. But your right, the best MBT is the 2A6 as it have less flaws then BVM but the BVM comes closely next. M1A2 third. The the column is less clear and a bit blurred as the other top tier MBTs all have major flaws that limit their gameplay somehow.
Gaijin buffed all the Top Russian MBTs in this update, with the increase of Side Era effectiveness against angled shots. And adding to that, the top russan tank gets the best ERA Pack, that often stops DM53 from a direct side shot. All this capability increase without a BR change, is a little bit frustrating, I must say. But on the other hand I‘m grinding the T80U right now, so I don‘t have to suffer that mich from the changes in this patch. It‘s something
You still will get insta killed be anytank with a shoot in side with this extra erra front and sides still are weak to russian mbts not like leo2a6 or abram that you have to choose in driver spot to can kill they.
I wanna see modern rounds for the Abrams that can pen Russian tanks like butter. And before you say that’s over powered, there’s 3 modern Russian tanks in the game and not a single modern Abrams.
@@devendoffing7004 the M3 Bradley should get M919 APFSDS, XM-1s should get M774 and smoke launchers, and the M1 Abrams should get M833 at the very least.
Thermals are bugged, but you can fix it by setting "Effects resolution" from Very High to just High. Not sure if the setting is called exactly like that since i play in russian tho.
Its a legit effective armor it actually saved the T80BVM from angled side shots. I wish the add on armor would somehow affect its speed but its still so fast.
@@younicorn2079 You sound completely stupid right now. 1. your view on "how early a t80bvm is supposed to reach the middle of the map" is completely subjective and based on nothing. 2. That extra ton gives it a HP/ton of 26.5 instead of 27.1. Thats a .6 hp/ton difference which is barely anything. I think you overestimate how much this weight would affect an already heavy tank with an insanely powerful engine. It would be like saying adding 2 tons more to the Leopard 2 or m1a2 abrams would tremendously slow it down which would obviously be bullshit because it would affect it only by a small margin
Can you do a video on the m4a3e2 sherman (the second jumbo with the 76 mil) its pretty fast and the only rly scary thing is a tiger2H. It basically is a t80 at 6.0 with a higher profile.
"the tank is super well rounded haha maybe it's a little bit unfair but you know, germans got a better vertical targeting speed so...." The absolute state of bias apologists
You will know someone would appear on that way if you play this game for enough time and the exhaust smoke on that abrams is quite clear in Gen 3 thermo.
Yea abrams are loud up close but at distance they are silent due to the resonance the engine produces.. in warthunder though it’s a jet engine sound 24/7
Russia when someone destroys one of their tanks: HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSON OLD MAN?! *spawns in to literally the same tank for the 54th time in a row*
Ok I don’t know if I should go to the m1 abrams then go the the IPM1 or go to the m60a1 and get the m60a3 orrr get the Bradley what would be my best decision to go for for US like I’m only 80,000 RP form m1 abrams
You are better off not playing America anymore, it’s a waste of your sanity. I’m starting to work on Russia and Germany because the Abrams tanks are just complete dogshit
@@ICECAPPEDSKY nah I get 1st place like ever time now I bout the ipm1 now and now I got 2 Abrams and I’m a beat idk why everyone calls the Abrams dogshit
It’s doesn’t bother me if the turret is asymmetrical, but if the hull or the hull and turret are asymmetrical it causes me pain and distracts me from the game
Jesus was watching this thinking it was an old video but just realized it said posted 32 seconds ago wow never been that early... By the way that house shot was dirty, had to do em like that
Интересно. Англоязычное сообщество нередко смотрит на советскую линейку современных танков как Russian Bias, в то время как русское сообщество часто говорит о них плохо
Putin: Nice gun, nice mobility, very nice armor……. But is it symmetrical Engineer: No Putin: Stares at engineer while picking up his phone to make a call……….. Engineer: 😳🤭
The abrams will be garbage until gaijob models the armor correctly and give it the rounds they actually fired like M829A3. Meanwhile russian caroussels don't spall when you hit the ammo and the ammo often vanishes into thin air, also their magical ERA somehow eats DM53 straight on sometimes which just tells you the amount of BS gaijin is willing to implement
Another night game? Punishment for deserting the glorious soviet army. Also im like 260k from the bvm and im already looking forward to the gun elevation speed
Ppl always call me mad for using the Warriors armor package, that the weight "isn't worth it"
I cannot count how many times those composites actually ended up saving me from things like auto cannons and explosive rounds xD
If it looks cool it's enough for me , the best armor package is the BMP-2D it's fucking smexy af
I varies from vehicle to vehicle, Warrior's add on is probably worth it, but vehicles like the centauro romor or stryker are definitely hindered by their add on because of how little it protects them and how much it impacts their speed (which in those vehicles is very important). It probably doesn't matter on the BVM because the package doesn't really impact the tank's power to weight and it seems to offer pretty decent protection but who knows honestly.
@@daddy_marx6823 the slat armor on my m114 stryker has saved me from he heat and hesh
@@deathsgrim6895 I've played a lot of stryker, I think the slat armor saves me maybe 1/100 times and its completely useless against apfsds which is mostly what you fight. Regardless, you also have to realize the extent to which it decreases your horsepower per ton. Currently, the styker is barely faster than the MBTs it fights, especially off road, which means that your ability to actually position yourself and play like other wheeled vehicles can is severely limited. I don't think they should remove it, but an option to take it off would be really nice
Yes, I’ve once survived 1 v 2 against bmp1 with my warrior, that add on armor really helps
Wish they added TUSK armor package the Abrams that helps protect from random shaped charges but it look nice
thy wish has been heard
@@truisticprince did deed it has
They did 😂
too bad its fucking trash@@truisticprince
and its crap
The best thing about the Chinese/Russian MBT stock grind is that you can just use HE shells.
And if that isn't saying anything about how absolute _garbage_ HEAT-FS at top tier is then I don't know what is.
Yeah heatfs is trash
only 20K left until I get the dm33 on my tam 2C. Until then its 400mm pen heatfs. at least the thing is 9.7 so I wont face the BVM lol.
I don't had a problem to grind DM-33 on 2A5 with HEAT
16:44 This is very good advice, and I advise you listen to it.
Man I missed the chance of getting that awesome esports camo :(
Oh well, I can use some userskins instead, nice vid justin!
I personally think the off centreness of the slat armour looks cool. But tanks with either turrets off centre or, *ahem* , abrams
I was never a fan of the T-80, till seeing one of the more recent packages on video in a current event eat about 5 Javelin and 3 Kornet strikes while successfully running off and eviscerating the infantry that had taken the shots. Not saying whom, but not whom the biggest voices we hear in the west would say for certain.
those tanks are pretty much the last I would wish to encounter as infantry, and the T90m with its remote machinegun looks nasty too.
I've killed the BVM with heat by repeatedly blasting their sides until their armor gave out.
Throw so much shit at the wall, and some of it might stick.
@@philipeanthonybattung3860 wise words
@@philipeanthonybattung3860 lmao
You are lucky son of a gun because most times in any angle or any map or any distance if i miss a shot then im dead :(
@@Parsi-Aria just disable them. Barrel, engine/track, get the slammin.
6:25 "What's up dude... come on me" XD
"Don't mind me", I meant.
T-80BVM:
-weight: 42 tons
-protection: 700-800mm both on the hull and the turret except the weakspots.
M1A2:
-Weight: 62 tons
- Protection: >700mm on the turret cheeks, >400mm on the hull.
Thats some peek calculations and logic Gajin💀💀
Looking at the amazing thermals on this thing makes me wonder why the US can’t get an MBT with next gen thermals.
Because Russia can’t suffer that’s why M1A2 is from 1996 in game 🤦🏼♀️
@@SirHuddy Didn’t the M1A2 actually enter service in 1992? Is the one we have in game a 1996 variant?
Because US decide that their gunnerdont need new thermal until M1A2C came, before that only comander thermal got update
well, M1A2 is 1986 version it seems, the basic model with no additional armor
@@SirHuddy bmp 2m uses a 2016 weapons platform at 8.7 ?
for some reason those ERA plates on the sides are modeled as one in the damage model so its actual chemical protection is like 600mm in total which makes me kinda sad tbh
Yeah I wondered about this - as it is 2 x 600 mm.
So it should beat HOTs and stuff.
Probably they modeled it together for simplicity, like the two separate engines modeled as one of the S-tank.
and the fact that gaijin calls it "relikt" when its clearly 4s24
@@majo3488 yea tbh i would love to see them fix this but in all honesty i think the last thing the BVM needs is another armor buff because its already arguably the best all rounder MBT at top tier rn and still has really good stats despite it being out for like what 4 months now?
@@m1a1abrams3 Don't start the forum war about Relikt and LERA again.
@@monkeypuppies444 My stats in BVM (got over 500 kills in it and died 400 times) are similar to T-80U.
The best thing is the improved vertical targeting speed.
The newer generation thermal is more for the eyes then for actual performance.
I just use thermal to spot targets in the woods or when playing at night.
But your right, the best MBT is the 2A6 as it have less flaws then BVM but the BVM comes closely next.
M1A2 third.
The the column is less clear and a bit blurred as the other top tier MBTs all have major flaws that limit their gameplay somehow.
Gaijin buffed all the Top Russian MBTs in this update, with the increase of Side Era effectiveness against angled shots. And adding to that, the top russan tank gets the best ERA Pack, that often stops DM53 from a direct side shot. All this capability increase without a BR change, is a little bit frustrating, I must say. But on the other hand I‘m grinding the T80U right now, so I don‘t have to suffer that mich from the changes in this patch. It‘s something
You still will get insta killed be anytank with a shoot in side with this extra erra front and sides still are weak to russian mbts not like leo2a6 or abram that you have to choose in driver spot to can kill they.
Love the energy on these recent vids!! Keep it up!
so justin maybe m48 super tommorow? 🥺🥺
ew…
@@MrStrengthhh ikr
@@ohmygyatt-s7b hasn’t he already made a video on it?
@@australiandog9338 yes
I really want to see more of the Abrams like the M1A2 with TUSK and the M1A2C with the upgraded armor and the trophy APS in the game
I wanna see modern rounds for the Abrams that can pen Russian tanks like butter. And before you say that’s over powered, there’s 3 modern Russian tanks in the game and not a single modern Abrams.
@@devendoffing7004 Russia has to be the strongest you know.
@@devendoffing7004 the M3 Bradley should get M919 APFSDS, XM-1s should get M774 and smoke launchers, and the M1 Abrams should get M833 at the very least.
@@fire_drake12.arc.24 ADATS should have stabilizer too.
Thermals are bugged, but you can fix it by setting "Effects resolution" from Very High to just High. Not sure if the setting is called exactly like that since i play in russian tho.
Basically, a TUSK package for the T-80. Very nice.
hahahah , its such a great joy to watch you bully abrams XD omg , its very satisfying to hear your laughs , really
yeah not to the american mains who deal with a russian beating the crap out of them every game yet the bvm still has less repair
@@thebirbestbirb havent played war thunder from like 6 years , maybe my kids will do in the future XD
Was a pleasure playing against you in that first match, had a lot of fun but was a shame your team collapsed
The only thing missing for this is hard bass while the T-80BVM cruises around and sniping other tanks.
"Don't look at the front of the Abrams, its the same thing"
I don't know what you're talking about, and at this point I'm afraid to ask . . .
Look at it from a top down angle, and you'll never unsee it.
@@JustinPlaysTV AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH MY EYES! The horror, I can't believe you ruined the Abrams 😭
in 5:17 how you know an abrams behind u before its coming and not showing in map?????????
Sound, having some good headphones helps a lot in this game. And the turbine engine of the abrams makes a very distinctive sound
JustinPlays Germans don't have a better vertical targeting speed though oO 2A5 and 2A6 have the same as the T-72B3 and T-80BVM
That bvm is war crime
In fact it’s armour it’s unreal. But what can you do. It’s a game.
Idk why but that tank now looks Sick! 👍👍👍👍❤
damn you’re fast on that trigger. I wish I could pull off shots like these but playing on constant 250 ping due to server location is a pain.
Its a legit effective armor it actually saved the T80BVM from angled side shots. I wish the add on armor would somehow affect its speed but its still so fast.
it does affect its speed what are you on about?
@@dyren7437 well those guys might bd cheating because i have seen many bvms reach the middle of the map way too early in the game
@@younicorn2079 You sound completely stupid right now. 1. your view on "how early a t80bvm is supposed to reach the middle of the map" is completely subjective and based on nothing.
2. That extra ton gives it a HP/ton of 26.5 instead of 27.1. Thats a .6 hp/ton difference which is barely anything. I think you overestimate how much this weight would affect an already heavy tank with an insanely powerful engine.
It would be like saying adding 2 tons more to the Leopard 2 or m1a2 abrams would tremendously slow it down which would obviously be bullshit because it would affect it only by a small margin
Can you do a video on the m4a3e2 sherman (the second jumbo with the 76 mil) its pretty fast and the only rly scary thing is a tiger2H. It basically is a t80 at 6.0 with a higher profile.
It’s called M4A3E2
@@giorgiogalliano05 true, im stupid
@@davinci69 it’s ok to mispell it, it's a pretty long name
I was in the first game, Killshot, sad times, you had me so confused how you saw me and where tf that shot came from, gg
How come whenever I shoot through metal sheds it doesn't even pen but when you shoot a concrete building it cleaves through it like its air?
the most OP tank in the game gets a buff. Its kinda ridicoules.
"the tank is super well rounded haha maybe it's a little bit unfair but you know, germans got a better vertical targeting speed so...."
The absolute state of bias apologists
indeed. he doesnt want to admit that the T80 is better then the leopard
best mbt player ive ever seen...
Now I wanna play my BVM but I know I won't be this good
My OCD is dead when looking at that ☠️
The heat shield is fine when the barrel is in the locked position (pointed over the right track)
1:10 I mean, that's psychological warfare for you. ^_^
Hey Justin your red tank sight - would you possibly be able to say/show how you got it?
It's sight illumination under common controls, everyone has it and it helps a ton in night games!
in 6:01 how u know from which where he's coming??? use some sort of soft or what??
You will know someone would appear on that way if you play this game for enough time and the exhaust smoke on that abrams is quite clear in Gen 3 thermo.
The Abrams is so loud on war thunder but t80s are louder irl. It makes it so useless up close
It makes you wonder why they gave Russian tanks that huge advantage.
Yea abrams are loud up close but at distance they are silent due to the resonance the engine produces.. in warthunder though it’s a jet engine sound 24/7
Source: trust me bro
Russia when someone destroys one of their tanks: HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSON OLD MAN?! *spawns in to literally the same tank for the 54th time in a row*
6:04 amazing
"ohh poor thing"
*proceeds to shot it*
*still alive*
"ohhhhh poor thing"
*shot again*
*team shot a missele*
"ohhhh poor thing"
Ok I don’t know if I should go to the m1 abrams then go the the IPM1 or go to the m60a1 and get the m60a3 orrr get the Bradley what would be my best decision to go for for US like I’m only 80,000 RP form m1 abrams
You are better off not playing America anymore, it’s a waste of your sanity. I’m starting to work on Russia and Germany because the Abrams tanks are just complete dogshit
@@ICECAPPEDSKY nah I get 1st place like ever time now I bout the ipm1 now and now I got 2 Abrams and I’m a beat idk why everyone calls the Abrams dogshit
can someone link his gunsight? ive tried looking but i cant find a red one
6.07 - what a kill!!!
It’s weird how I barely saw the ERA do anything to be honest
Good to know im not the only one getting lag spikes.
military engineer: symmetric is not an option
bruhh :v
merkava mk1 still have the same vibes
It’s doesn’t bother me if the turret is asymmetrical, but if the hull or the hull and turret are asymmetrical it causes me pain and distracts me from the game
More cardboard in ERA packages.
Hey, Justin, for night games, how do you make your crosshair red? Sometimes when I'm in a match it will be red but other times its not
Look for "Sight illumination", I believe the name was. Should be under common controls
@@JustinPlaysTV Thanks, brother!
what is his camo called?
Justin did you ever do a video on the Vickers Mk3 I can’t remember
Literally yesterday lmao
@@colinrussell2857 yup just found it and I realized my mistake
God the t80bvm is beautiful
The relikt armor package is really good.
just a small question, but what's the orange camo you got on tank?
Esports ready u cant get it anymore it's for twitch
@@elitewavez4768 oh ok thanks though
I don't equip the armor package simply because the slat armor drives me nuts everytime I play with it, and I drive sideways with it on
M1A3 TUSK || G is loading comming soon
Last time I was this early this tank was still called Soviet
I fear the day I reach top tier.
If the bvm wasn’t broken enough, how many times I’ve bounced from the side of the bvm cause of this “balanced” upgrade
You're in the right wheel house, but still no bluest of tonks D:< :P
I jumped at 13:15 out of instinct
Btw did You do any sound settings changes for this update?
Yeah I did. Had to redo my EQ a bit
Like with the Chally 2F
I'd honestly rather die more oftenly than vandalize a beautiful tank.
It's a game after all.
Hey justin did my zsu scare you?
10:07 FFG plays warthundurr now? Times have not been kind; I think he used to play Project Reality.
The one and only baby
bruh why is abrams tank so popular in this game
Crosshair?
Pretty cheeky gameplay 😉
what skin is that?
Jesus was watching this thinking it was an old video but just realized it said posted 32 seconds ago wow never been that early...
By the way that house shot was dirty, had to do em like that
Where do you shoot at the front of a BVM?
Lower front plate or gun breech, not sure about the driver's port and turret ring you might want to test that out.
Lower glacis, drivers viewport, breech. Also you can shoot commanders cupola if you see just the turret.
Интересно. Англоязычное сообщество нередко смотрит на советскую линейку современных танков как Russian Bias, в то время как русское сообщество часто говорит о них плохо
Imagine how bad these tanks are if gaijin has to artificially boost their performance and Russian people still think they suck
I got 5 night games in a row yesterday
its not the russian military fault it is the Company that make the tank
Justin you should go try out AMX-50. It's so much fun.
Putin: Nice gun, nice mobility, very nice armor……. But is it symmetrical
Engineer: No
Putin: Stares at engineer while picking up his phone to make a call………..
Engineer: 😳🤭
Gaijin: German Tiger I at 9.0 so 3.0 to this soviet tank and 2k ace repairs is balanced.(only on russian tech tree)
tiger only get's downtiered because Germany players are bad
4:04 2 in a row ??? omg, thats insane. tho i got 4
Did someone say they wanted a night game?
Oh hey, thats me. And im doing well babe, hbu?
Man, Untill active protection gets put in the game, the Abrams are just pretty boned...
Yes because we have the abrams from 1996 meanwhile bvm is from 2016.. Give us an M1A2 C and things would be completely different..
Like what, what active protection?
@@SirHuddy and? 😂😂 Russia will get T90M and germany Leo2A7, and the abrams still will be garbage.
The abrams will be garbage until gaijob models the armor correctly and give it the rounds they actually fired like M829A3. Meanwhile russian caroussels don't spall when you hit the ammo and the ammo often vanishes into thin air, also their magical ERA somehow eats DM53 straight on sometimes which just tells you the amount of BS gaijin is willing to implement
Sight?
This tank breaks top tier and KA52 but nooo American M1A2 needs 12k repair cost cause quote on quote balance
Take my subscribtion
IT'S NOT RELICT IT'S 2S24 blocks
Another night game? Punishment for deserting the glorious soviet army.
Also im like 260k from the bvm and im already looking forward to the gun elevation speed
@5:19
U got lucky.
He forgot lol
Very nice
200mm kinetic? From era...... OK
I want leopard 2 revolution
Awesome
I think the T-90 OR THE T80U IS BETTER .THE PROBLEM IS MODIFACIONS
Bruh I though the bvm got an upgrade package
the arietes got a nerf
That was like 3 weeks ago
BREAKING NEWS : TH-camr JustinPlays declares war against Russia
Fun to fight using HEAT ))