Top 10 Tool Brands to AVOID!
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- Top 10 Tool Brands to AVOID!
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I am 52 now but when I was 18 I bought my dad a craftsman tool box on rollers for Father’s Day. He passed away years ago and I still use that box today.
I have some JCPenney wrenches that are over 40 years old. They are better wrenches than many today.
Sorry for your loss man
it not the same company
R.I.P. to your old man ✌❤
Rip To your Dad
My grandpa (bless his soul) gave me this nugget of info. Never go in and buy the most expensive tool first, start with the cheapest. If you break it, it means you are using the tool enough to warrant a better one. That advice has never failed me once.
Makes sense ..
There's actually some merit in that statement. I have a Harbor Freight reciprocating saw and a Kawasaki 4-1/2" angle grinder I picked up on clearance at Pep Boys for $15. Both are over 10 years old and still going strong. The thing is, those are tools I rarely use, but I do use them on occasion.
Dad always told me buy the best quality tool you can afford, so you only have to buy it once. Mind you, he was referring to sockets and wrenches. It's not entirely applicable elsewhere.
There's still a lot of good advice there, but our grandparents grew up in a different economy, and had different values because of it. A piece of crap drill will most likely last a long time, but will cost you a few minutes every time you need to use it. A few minutes here and there is a whole project by the end of the year, but the nicest drill you can afford is a 4 pack of cheaper tools. Each purchase needs to be weighed out carefully. I go big on the basics (tools I will use most often) and cheap or used on the ones I need for a single project. Most DIYers who tackle at least a home project every weekend should drop some money on a good drill and a cordless skill saw. I watched my brother in law f"©€ around with a 12v Bosch, trying to rebuild his deck. It was very very sad. Had I not loaned him my tools he said he would have contracted out the fence; that's easily a new tool or more in labor for rough, outdoor, construction
@@chrislaney930 So is Bosch not a quality brand? Or was it the 12V that was the problem? I don't have any Bosch, but I was under the impression they were pretty good. I have a mixture of Milwaukee, Ryobi and Harbor Freight, strangely enough. But all are still working even the cheap ones after many years. (but, light duty, the Harbor Freight and my oldest Ryobi only used a few times a year., and I have had some non power tool HF break on me pretty quickly)
I have some Craftsman tools that I've had since I was 16 years old and I'm now 74 and I've never had a problem with the fact that ratchet is my go-to and 1/2 inch drive when I need
All of those older tools were built with quality regardless of brand. Nowadays tools are made to be replaced in a year.
If you're talking about tools people can't afford, Snap On should be at the top of the list.
Snap-On Is My Primary Bought And Used Daily Tools And Yes They Are Very Pricey But On A Side Note,,, Snap-On Does Own Their Own Steel Mill And Laboratories To Ensure, They Make The Best Quality Grades Of Steel,, For Their Different Types Of Tools. There Is One Other Thing I Wanted To Add, Is That Snap-On Does Not ( Recycle Or Re-Use ) Any Of Their Broken Hand Tools Because They View Any Broken Tool Was A Defective Or Flawed Tool To Begin With, So They Sell The Broken Hand Tools And Possibly Others, To Different Manufacturing Companies, That Make Other Brands Of Tools, Which Doesn't Mean, That's a Bad Thing Because A Big Percentage Of The Broken Tools Are Purposely Broken Because Of The Free Lifetime Replacement!
musicians have Very expensive instruments. Technicians have very expensive set off tools. The guy that know how to play guitar but doesn't do it pro only a few hundred bucks. Same with the home wrench turner. This channel is more the bang for the buck thing, but keeps you from getting a useless Item.
I almost bought a 3/8” ratchet from Snap On when I was in automotive school, they wanted $50 for it. And that was with a student discount. Would’ve been $100 otherwise. Super nice solid high quality ratchet, but couldn’t justify paying even $50 at the time since I was quite poor in those days. My $30 3/8” Kobalt ratchet that I got from Lowe’s that I’ve had for years, and seems almost as nice, is still kickin’ ass.
I said they were expensive, but they hold up to my daily dose of salt water
Snap-on tools are an investment! You invest in the best when it's your livelihood. Professional technicians need quality reliable tools that are designed to perform the tasks needed faithfully day in day out. That's why they are expensive because nothing even comes close.
Sad about Craftsman. In 1970, I bought their big mechanic’s tool set. I’m still using it. Great tools that never failed.
Me to still have them from 60s and 1970s never broke one still work great
I’ve purchased every last of new USA Craftsman tools that I could find before my local Sears went under.
Thankfully, Stanley is bringing back USA Craftsman. I guess Lowe’s wants a premium USA set to replace Taiwan Kobalt.
Jim Ivey I’m still using my dads old Craftsman corded power drill that he handed down to me, it was made sometime in the 90’s. Still works flawlessly. I doubt that he current crop of craftsman power tools will last that long.
Derik Henderson that would be great if they did, though I’m partial to the Kobalt brand. I have some ratchets and pliers by them that I’ve been beating on for years, quality seems decent.
I have a Craftsman 3/8" variable speed reversible corded drill that I bought back when I was in high school in the middle 1970's and it still works great to this day. It was made in the USA!
It's so sad to see Craftsman make this list. Growing up, Craftsman was the only tool brand my dad would ever buy. They had great quality and a stellar life time warranty.
They’re hit or miss. My craftsman 12 volt impact is still going strong. My 20 volt drill as well. Got their 10 inch sliding miter saw and it’s a good quality saw. Starting out I bought craftsman everything. I’m invested in Makita and Milwaukee now but craftsman is a top notch home owner brand and is always going to be a target by reviewers. Because they once were on the job sites and now are just home owner tools.
I have all craftsmen . Bear does not like anything Stanley black and decker make
Craftsman is now a direct competitor to Ryobi. They are mid-grade tools. Mid-grade tools are cheaper than premium tools but, are still solid tools to give you a decade or more of service for frequent DIY use or 3 or more years of professional use. However, you can feel the difference in power, durability, and handle comfort between high-end and mid-grade tools.
You mean "Crapsman" right?
i miss usa made craftsman i have many tools us made craftsman from my grandfther that are over 60 years old
Sears should have become a hardware store and filled the entire store with usa made craftsman tools and Kenmore appliances and I think they would be doing a lot better
Same here! I still have a lot of made in USA craftsman tools I got from my father.
Most of my hand tools are Craftsman that I bought about 30 years ago. Sadly, I probably wouldn't buy anything current with that name.
Lowes honors the lifetime warranty on craftsman tools,no matter where it was purchased.
@@Jdres123 yes but sadly even if it was us made they give you chinese
I remember when porter cable was the tool brand that Norm Abrams used on New Yankee Workshop but that was real porter cable
if you needed a good router or shaper it was porter cable hands down back in the day.....
I loved that show, all the good PBS shows! Bob Ross, Roy Underhill, this old house! Taught me things!
Agree. Many years ago I watched Norm Abrams avidly and purchased the 7.25” portable saw and router based on watching him. I still have them and they work great. Norm taught me a lot.
I still have/use my 25 year old porter cable D handle router. Replaced the brushes. Still like new. Its my favorite router. The DA sander is still going strong. Detail sander is like new. Love the old PC.
Yes. My older Porter Cable routers and belt sanders have lasted for many years.
Thank you Bear. Your time in analyzing the game of tools is much appreciated. Your quick witted humor is also appreciated. Keep up the good work
Thumbnail had me thinking he was gonna be ragging on Hitachi. I love my Hitachi tools. Thanks for the video and completely agree with craftsman/porter-cable
Hitachi now makes powertools as Metobo
sad what happened to porter cable....i was in cabinetmaking in the mid 90s and it was porter cable hands down..
Yeah I have and use allot of their stuff from the 90s still,I wouldn't give the new stuff away as a gift
Does this apply to all the porter cable orbital DA polisher? Mainly looking to buy & use for paint correction/restoration
@@mrrevival6565 The PC7424XP is still the gold standard for the entry level hobbyist who wants to do some compounding, polishing and waxing on their daily driver. I've had one for years without any problems.
The older electric tools you remember we’re fine,it’s the 20 volt cordless tools that are giving up
I work at an auto parts store and we have a very very old pair of craftsman needle nose pliers and when I tell you the first time I picked that up I was shocked. I have never had a pair of needle nose pliers feels so good in the hand. Which is may be weird to say but it feels good to hold definitely huge difference than the newer hand tools they offer.
Hey bear, good list. I think Stanley bought Delta/Porter Cable for two reasons. First, Stanley was not into stationary power tools and Delta was. IMO the real reason was that Porter Cable was it was the main competitor for DeWalt at the time. Buying Porter Cable allowed Stanley to protect their investment and gain sales based on the reputation Porter Cable had. They slowly re-positioned it as a DIYer based on Norm Abrams TNYW, and have now lower that standing so Porter Cable is just an after thought. I think they bought Craftsman tools with the same idea, use the name to get sales before people find out the lower quality.
SBD is evil.
I have 2 craftsman brushless drills and they go hard. They were price efficient at Lowe’s and they do the job time and time again. Definitely recommend craftsman, Sears handed Lowe’s the torch and they haven’t let me down.
As some one who started a home shop this year I have loved your videos. I feel comfortable starting with the HF brands unless i really want to spend money after your videos. Thanks Bear
@The Den of Tools. Hey Red. Thanks for the this list. When you described Hilti's business model, it reminds me of that comedy routine where a guy goes to rent a car and they try to sell him the insurance that covers accidents and stuff. So he rents the car, gets the insurance, takes the rental and describes "fun" things like doing wheelies, throws rocks through the windshield and returns the rental thanking the counter guy for selling him the insurance. I'm surprised that no one got the idea to really mess around like drop a few Hilti's off a high rise or bridge under construction. Or maybe "accidentally" left a Hilti in a concrete pour.
Hope you, Jeff's, and your families stay safe and well.
Shine on!
It shocks me about Porter Cable. I’ve had mine sense they went to the 20V. I haven’t had any issues at all. I have the drill, the impact, 6 1/2 circular saw, the heavy duty impact drill, the tiger saw, the Radio, their work light. I thank they are 16 years old. I have their corded chop saw, table saw, router, circular saw. The only thang wrong is my chop saw the break stopped working. It still cuts and runs great. It’s just the blade break doesn’t work, so I just let it stop on it’s own till I get it fixed.
PC didn't melt down until about 2006 or thereabouts.
I have many of the PC 20v tools. The only one i had issues with is the circular saw. The rest have been great.
Paul Ste. Marie I thank I have all my recipes. I usually keep all that stuff in my filing cabinet. Like every power tool I have is PC. I got a pancake air compressor and a 20 gallon standup air compressor that are both PC. Even all 3 of my nail guns are PC. Framed house, made decks, built car ports and storage buildings, made all kinds of outdoor furniture with them. Helped one of my friends that lives in Bedford Euless Texas build a huge back deck for him and his wife. It was like 3 decks that all tied in together. My PC ran circles around his 20V Dewalt. He was going threw batteries like crazy. We really started telling a difference when it came time to start decking with the 2x10s. I still have my 14.4V PC drill. NiCad battery. It still works.
Couldn’t agree more bear on craftsman. Bought a set of Craftsman open end wrench’s last year. Finish is pitting, nothing else in my box is. Shame on me for buying anything Chinese. Just received my first shipment of texton tools. Impressed with the quality
I got a brushless combo Porter cable kit for $149 last year and think its great for a weekend warrior. Battery life is excellent but agree no charging station is a let down. Durability I think is on par with DeWalt box store models
Bostitch - with minimal effort DeWalt batteries fit.
Porter Cable - Black & Decker batteries fit with removing one notch and are generally better tools than their B&D counterparts. Also a plus if you have the B&D lawn care stuff.
Brands to avoid?
Earthquake 20v & 12v tools. AC Delco makes the same tools cheaper and with a much better warranty.
Thanks for the tip about the batteries.
I actually think there is room for PC as the "Better" brand between B&D and DeWalt.
Craftsmen is Craftsmen.
Without the walk in exchange at any Sears I don't see the point.
Granted the power tools never had that.
@@1978garfield - Sears back in the 1970s did take back Craftsman power tools and replace them under the warranty. But that’s many decades ago.
I would literally recommend Ryobi any day over PC for cordless tools.
Pc??
@@elliotcarter7944 Are you really that stupid?
@@jllrue i’m just not american. There’s a whole world outside America you know. A lot of you guys think that you are the only human beings I’ve notice.
@@jllrue ease up, insults aren't necessary
Ryobi? What happened to this company? The most mysterious brand of tools to me. Their chainsaws are the worst I’ve ever used. Small jobs they fall apart. Their corded belt sander was total waste of money. I think something happened to this company..... my 20 year old Ryobi drill press still is fantastic. My Ryobi chopsaw excellent. I think their older tools are much higher quality. I’m very disappointed in their newer tools, I was in the middle of felling some pine trees. My 15 yr old Stihl and 10-year-old Echo chain saws died. Natural death from heavy use, always were well-maintained. We had to finish the job that day, we went to Home Depot and the only larger gas powered chainsaws they had were Ryobi. It didn’t make it through the day. The cheap plastic cover wouldn’t stay on the saw. I’ve been cutting trees for 35 years on my ranch. I don’t understand why Ryobi has turned into such a poor performing tool as regards and power tools and chainsaws. My Ryobi drill press, Chopsaw which are both over 20 years old and corded has stood the test of time everything else has been junk. I wonder why.
I have been using the Porter Cable 20v tools for years and so far they have worked extremely well for being inexpensive. I had 18v Ryobi, the batteries kept failing, the saw worked for one cut and the brushes failed in the drill an are not replaceable. I am upset that I have a forgotten platform, but I still think they are better than Ryobi.
Agree with you about Hilti power tools, used them when I worked on building sites, when I switched to domestic work I changed to Makita, much more suited to the type of work I did.
my favorite go to cordless electric brands are milwaukee and makita, theyre my sword and shield and stood the test of time in a professional setting (dealership)
a frog You have very good taste
WRT Hilti: The cost of something like that is a write-off for large operations, but more importantly - the cost of just purchasing something costs many times more than what an individual tool costs. Any time they can have a vendor replace/repair/manage things like that without intervention, it saves big time overhead.
I actually own the pneumatic Porter Cable 18 gauge brad nailer and it works just fine for nailing in trim and stair treads at my home. I don't think you'd want to be using it professionally nailing 1000 plus nails a day with it. But for just DIY work at your home the pneumatic works pretty well.
I've got the Craftsman 20v brushed drill and impact driver combo that I got from lowes on clearance when the brushless stuff came out. After 6 months of light home use it's pretty decent.
I’m 59 years old now, going to Sears on Saturdays with my Dad was the best time! I learned a lot from him about tools. I never thought that one day the high level of craftsmanship would be gone! Had I known, I would have bought all I could, Lol!
It’s sad that you could make a video about this subject but I’m glad you did, thanks!
lol im still using my porter cable table saw tht was recalled sorry not cutting it apart for $75 when i paid over $200 when it catches fire i may send them the picks and just buy a new motor with the rebate chck until than fire extinguisher and using it outside
I’ve been a contractor for nearly 20 years and have used Milwaukee, Mikita, Porter Cable, and Dewalt. I used the 18V Porter Cable professionally for years before they switched to 20V and killed off 18V almost overnight. Porter Cable was a good line of battery tools at 18V but I agree with both the 20V switch and Craftsman lineup the battery PC is done. They still have good pneumatic tools. Craftsman too used to nake decent hand tools, I don’t think they ever gad good power tools but Stanley/Craftsman power tools aren’t anything but a branded tool. They’re relying on name recognition to sell tools while devaluing them. Even the new hand tools aren’t being warrantied like they were at Sears. Stick to the long known brands; buy good tools and you’ll get what you pay for, most of the time.
Have a chest full of 40-50 year old Craftsman hand tools. Scared to death to use the lifetime warranty. This breaks my heart.
Chest full of broken tools? Get something now before sears disappears , Lowe's will give you a hard time
You won't get the same quality. I exchanged my USA made 3/8 ratchet for a USA rebuilt one and the metal in the square drive looks like cheap cast metal instead of forged tool steel. I haven't broken it yet,but. If I get knuckle busted I'm gonna be super pissed!
Checkout pawn stores for great old tools
Another great video ! I always learn a something new when I watch . Thank you
Really agree on Hilti they are fantastic tools but way to expensive. We only buy the large impact drill for concrete drilling. They are awesome tool and drill 2 to 3 times as fast as other commercial drill.
Brad Markley I’d throw Festool in this same category. All consumer level and many professional level people don’t need to waste money on Festool
By impact drill do you mean hammer drill? And by large do you mean SDS MAX?
@@Veritas-invenitur yes. And yes one of them is. Great tools.
After years of snapping every ratchet I ever bought new, I went to eBay and started sourcing the old ratchets and sockets, it’s takes forever to find what you need but the journey is rewarding and well worth the money you spend because when you buy something it’s there forever. Research the old brands and start hunting!
I've restored some garage sale tool finds that have provided me with many years of service and I'll be passing them on to my son.
i just went straight for Stahlwille. cost me both my legs, but boy oh boy. buy once, cry once.
I got a Porter Cable Cordless Impact Driver a couple of years ago for home use. So far it is done the job and have not had any problems with it.
Your knowledge about tools is easy to understand it’s much greatly appreciated!
The information is great, I’m thankful for this channel bear :-)
Cheers Brotherman. Ya the 1st tool Kimo Sent me was the Hex Impact driver which was good, but the Recip Saw was junk and Cricket's ever since that last video. Nothing but love thanks for the Plug in. Cheers!
Gotta support the guys who spread the truth.
I bought a porter cable set about 5 years ago and use it every day .. they have held up well
same
Have to say, we bought a Tacklife 12v cordless drill when up for £25, it was a punt at putting us on. It has been bloody brilliant, in line with reviews, it is powerful for the voltage and size, feels sturdy enough, ergonomic, etc, we have been more than pleased with it. We are a clock repair shop who use a cordless drill more than you'd think, including screw-driving etc.
I have a 19.2V PC cordless I bought in the 90s. Have used it ever since then. Used it yesterday!
Great reviews! I love having someone in the consumer’s corner. These days people are hoodwinked into thinking they’re buying quality products but low and behold these are well known companies bought buy Chinese manufacturers and companies riding the coat tails of previously great products.
I have some Porter Cable cordless tools. Circ-saw, drill, oscillating multitool, and jig saw. I can hear the souls of power tools past screaming every time I use them. Pretty sure the Hart tools from Walmart would beat them.
Been slowly acquiring Makita tools to replace them.
Also, 100% agree with the assessment of Hilti. But dang are they pretty tools.
I had a Makita drill many years ago it was great till batteries went bad. So father day my wife and children bought me a craftsman drill, light, saw,,charger. It lasted about 9 months! So did it all over new set.
Then again same thing, three times of craftsman. And our 2nd son buys me and Ryobi set and sent it to me same deal, so I went to the store he bought them in they were very helpful and sold me new batteries for half price. I was happy! But did not last I was unhappy about the whole thing! Make a long story short, i went with wife's help and bought DeWalt. I've been slowly adding to the toolkit have too many to mention but the batteries have lasted long over a year now. I used to have to charge battery before every job, now I just get the tool out and use it. I'm in my early 60s and hope the tools will last the rest of my life!
Marlin Knable Understandable but I’m curious why you didn’t buy Makita? The lower end Makita is garbage but the mid tier and high end stuff really packs a punch and stands up to the test of time.
I'm glad I clicked on, Tacklife service department is not helpful, I was trying to get a replacement battery without success after sending 3 emails. I did get their electric lawn mower that is a MUSCLE MACHINE! Love it! How it will hold up, I do not know as our year is mostly winter, 3 months of summer, but, used it 6X so far
I have a boatload of Porter Cable 18V power tools. (I also was gifted a couple of 20V tools). They all work great, they're exactly what I need. I'm a DIY guy, don't use them every day but in my experience they are a huge step up from anything Harbor Freight, better than Skill or Black & Decker. They didn't cost like the pro tools but they serve my needs perfectly. I would recommend anyone buy them used as you can find a lot out there. As the Bear said, the issue is the batteries. If you can solve that the tools are tough and work fine for the weekend warrior.
I have bought a few of the small, USB-charged Tacklife products (a plasma lighter, a cordless screwdriver, a rotary tool; maybe one other) and I've been happy with those; they are lightly used. I have not seen or bought their more powerful stuff, but I'll take your advice and avoid them; the lines are no doubt entirely different.
I just watched this again and still feel sad for some of these companies that used to be among the best but I gotta say while I agree with you on Hilti's price if you use them extensively, they kick butt over anything I've seen, and I've seen some of them side by side. They seem to do the same work with less effort. It's awesome to see them at work. (Maybe I need to get out more.) They make our job so much easier.
Thank you for your reviews and guidance.
I’ve been using a Hilti impack for drilling holes in telephone poles and it’s probably the best damn drill ever and the lease program is amazing
I had an Amazon drill when I first started in the HVAC field. Nobody ever heard of Teeno, got made fun of it constantly. LOL
TackLife support - "You be here four hour. You go now. You no come back."
You no good number 10 cheap charlie boy. I no like. You maka da trouble for me all time. Number 1 boss man say - one more time with a dis and you finish! So, I fire you, no more chansee.
I just love the name Tack Life. This isn't thug life, this is tack life.
Louie Anderson!!!!
Tacklife customer service is useless, se. Trumm3 emails and got help even tho' they answered every email Trying to get a replacement battery, no success
Bought a Tacklife cordless screwdriver. Used it about 4 times over the course of a year. Battery died. No way to replace it. Have to throw it away even though it worked fine other than the battery. First, and last, Tacklife tool I ever buy.
Recently picked up the Craftsman 216 piece Versastack SAE/Metric socket and open end wrench set at Lowe’s for $99. 30% discount from $149. I’m semi-retired and this will meet my needs as an occasional user, versus when I was rebuilding VW engines at 19. I still have some of my original Craftsman stuff from the early years and it seems way more durable than the polished chrome I just purchased. But I’m not complaining at all!
When Sears still existed, their worm gear saw was identical to Skil, except for the color of plastic. In the 60s, I worked for a mechanic who used 40s vintage Craftsman hand sockets on air guns every day, and only split one 3/8 in 30 years. They were great quality---long ago.
JH Williams, when their tools were made in the USA, were terrific.
usernamemykel : agreed, I have several 3/4” drive sets from JH Williams circa ‘80s excellent quality!
They still have several usa made stuff available..you just have to pay attention to their parts numbers. But even still..I heard their warranties are not the easiest to go through.
Shame what snap on did to Williams tools .Bought them out and took away their quality because the could not compete with them in the industrial market.
every time i see an old williams too, i buy it, their tools weren't fancy but strong. i particularly like the black iron tools. the old slugging wrenches i use can really take a beating
Best ratchets ever made.
I have to disagree with the Williams assessment. We absolutely abuse their large wrenches at work daily, and never have any issues.
He probably bought the Taiwan William's line and expected them to be snap on. The made in usa line is good stuff
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+1 I've never had any problems with Williams. This is the first video I've watched by Den of Tools, and it's really turned me off to this channel.
I agree, I work in industry and our tool boxes are full of Williams tools from small to very large. I've never broken a Williams tool and I've misuse every one of them at some point.
You may very well have their very best, but when he received a set for testing, could have been made with different material. Probably a way to cut back on costs.
I have mostly Craftsman hand tools. So many of them after 2010 or so felt a little too different to the touch. It's like Sears decided to eliminate the good stuff from Craftsman and replace it all with the Evolv line. I would have liked to get more of their 19.2V tools, but that's because I have a drill and tire inflator in that line, both of which are plenty serviceable. I'll likely switch to Makita or Milwaukee.
This is a good video. I like the way Mr. Tool Bear looks at tools based on branding, which many consumers are unfamiliar with. My favorite screwdrivers are Snap-On hard handle screwdrivers. But Snap-On starting making "Instinct" screwdrivers which are too big to fit my hands and aren't near as tough. Snap-On quit making the hard handle screwdrivers I like, but they had Williams sell them for a much lower price. I got some, they are the same, and they work great. I haven't bought any other Williams tools.
Back around 2002 my in-laws wanted to give me a birthday present. I selected a Bosch Brute-Tough 14.4v drill. Its a great and powerful drill that I have used uncountable times. But after a dozen years the NiCD batteries got weak. Bosch charges a ridiculous price for replacement batteries forcing people buy newer Lithium sets and discard their old sets. But I just bought two cheap batteries off ebay and I'm still in business. I now see I can buy an adapter so I can use Lithium batteries with my drill, but I don't need it yet.
I shop at Harbor Freight even though it is one of the brands that I avoid, it is mostly junk. But there are select items they make, like jacks, that are compelling due to the price. Even though he is a Harbor Freight fan boy, you have to watch Mr. Tool Bear's videos to discern which are the buyable Harbor Freight tools, like the hydraulic work table.
drwisdom1 my co workers keep eyeing my Williams screwdrivers. Funny thing, last year Snap On brought back some of the old screwdrivers as “special editions”.
You might be able to rebuild the NiCad battery packs using NiCad cells; worth looking into if you are happy with the tool otherwise.
@@stevebabiak6997 I actually did that first, but there are lots of little cells of which only one or a few are bad. Compared to the cost of buying cheap ebay batteries it isn't worth the trouble, especially since another cell might go bad in less than a year. Plus now that there is a lithium battery adapter I want to try that the next time my battery wears out.
I've bought hilti tools one by one each check, used from Ebay. Greatest investment I've done so far.
I'd like to chime in with a positive experience from Kimo. I have their electric ratchet (I think I got it for like $60 on a flash sale) and am honestly pretty impressed with it. Am I a professional? No. Am I a weekend warrior? No. I'm probably somewhere in between. So I feel like I generally know when I use a tool if it's "wow, this is awesome" or "this is above my expectations, good tool" or "yeah you can tell this is crap". Kimo falls into the "this is above my expectations, good tool" category for me. Gets a lot of heavy use.
That being said, I'm a sample size of 1, but wanted to share my experience.
I have their cordless 12v ratchet and polisher. Been using them in a body shop almost daily for 6 months. I expected them to be throwaway tools but so far so good
I'm still using my dad's Craftsman 3 speed floor drill press from 1975... same motor but newer Jacob's chuck
I bought a used set of porter cable tools including a drill, impact driver along with a charger and 4 batteries and havent had any problems with them
Be honest the 10 brands I barely even heard of especially the Amazon ones. It’s sad about craftsman kind of knew when they went to Lowe’s they want to China great reviews though so👍👍
I bought my craftsman ratchet/socket set 40 years ago and they’re still going strong. I go into Lowe’s, see today’s craftsman tools, and cry. It’s like we lost our country.
America is sinking and sinking. Thank you Mr. Trump.
@@blam1328 Go smoke some more dope...
I hate the new craftsman tools they’re really ugly and the price point is garbage. Tryna value them like we didn’t notice the rebranding
@@blam1328 Trump is responsible for the decline of PC too? Ignorance abounds
Paying more and getting less is what it's all about. The stockholders love it.
Never thought I'd be hearing a bear give me a lecture on bad tool brands
Thank you for the Hilti pointer. I have worked for some of the largest civil contractors in the United States.I always found Hilti to be a kind of weird set up.great tools but never a real upfront cost. The whole rental comes into mind when we used the powder actuated tools where you had to buy X amount of loads and fasteners to get the tool.
joseph eller A lot of government projects have banned the use of powder actuated fasteners now.
I have a Porter Cable framing nailer. It's probably at least 20 years old and going strong. I suppose that my son might well inherit it one day. Sorry to see what's happening to the brand.
All 6 of my guns are Porter Cable including the pancakes I bought at the same time.
*I've had zero issues with the lot."*
Lowe's has Bostitch, but it's literally just the nailers.
Walmart was selling a whole Bostitch line of drills impacts and corded saws at Walmart until about a year ago. Decent stuff it was rebranded Porter Cable with better quality like metal Chuck's and such. Sucks they stopped the line...
Christopher Mealey a friend of mine has them and loves them. Can’t even find the batteries now. And if you do it’s just the 1.5ah
@@kennethstephens8046 there's a modnu can do to make black and decker or Stanley batteries fit. U have to shave the plastic down a little bit on the battery but it'll work I've done it. There are TH-cam videos on how to do it too 👍
I got my Recipocating Saw from Lowe's, it is a Bostitch. Kicks Ass too..!
I have a bucket of nails branded bostitch.
Bought a Teccpo impact driver (180nm) for a DIY house renovation. After a loft conversion and other assorted ongoing jobs it's going strong, fingers crossed.
My first mechanics tool set back in... 2013(?) was Craftsman. Unfortunately, I had to leave it behind in a move. Bought my first truck back at the end of December... And bought a Kobalt set. Even after all the years, I knew I could feel the difference there in the store, and the pricing just wasn't right. Recently bought an Icon torch wrench and a Bosch hammer drill and second gen Freak (the 2-in-1 impact wrench/driver combo) combo pack on a sale for $140. I figured "hell, basically getting three brushless power tools, two 4 amp hour batteries, and the fast charger for $140? This shouldn't be a bad deal to pick up."
I always find it funny when I get "oh, I think you're wasting your money" after I pull the trigger on something. Hell, I do my research, and I'm glad this channel is one of the ones I find myself continuously coming back to. Keep it up!
I’m glad h didn’t put black and decker because that was my first tool brand before milwaukee
I built my first shop with a black n decker drill and use the jig saw a portable circular saw. I got both black n decker for Christmas and I honestly doubted there to take the abused I still using them 6 years later
Bear.. do you always show your paws off like that? Dont remember seeing them alot. Love the paw action! Pawsitivly awesome
I have been using Porter Cable cordless tools for years and they still work like brand new.Batteries are still going strong.
I've been using Bosch tools almost exclusively for years and have had only one problem. It was quickly resolved via warranty with no hassle. I did buy a Dewalt cordless grease gun this year, only because Bosch doesn't make one. So far, it has held up well.
I can’t leave a comment because red beard is my competitor. :)
Thanks for the video!
my porter cable tools work great, cordless and corded.
Pretty much completely agree with this list, you can certainly buy Hilti tools in the UK standalone one-off payment style but they are very expensive once vat is added
I do have a taclife jump pack and air pump and I have loved both of them. They may not be around for long but the two items I’ve used are really nice and perform better than I expected. For the price it was a good product. I probably wouldn’t buy anymore of their stuff though. If it lasts, it lasts. I’m good with it for the price.
The warrior 4v power cutter is amazing i picked it up last week been cutting boxes up with it is just amazing my wife used it for cutting up old denim and fabric @TheDenOfTools
My number one brand to avoid is something that's unbranded, followed by made up brands and new brands.
Well, a battery based lineup means a significant investment in batteries, people want assurances that the line will be around for a while.
Bought an "Altocraft" 18V 3/8" cordless drill from Menards about 4-5 years ago. Came with a Ni-Cd battery. Still charges up great today, and the drill still works. Holds a charge for months sitting without charging. Altocraft is still out there, and it looks like they OEM'd that drill under other labels. Since I paid $15 US on sale, I'd say I did pretty good for once.
I don’t know if any ni-cad that holds a charge for more than a few days, much less months.
@@melgross I'm at least as surprised as you are; figured the battery would stop charging also, but it's still working.
@@melgross True. I'm guessing it's probably NiMH. Those last a lot longer.
I've noticed as craftsman has taken over at Lowe's a lot of Porter Cable designs have seen a direct copy replacement with craftsman name and colors. Miter saws, benchtop planers & jointers to name a few.
I've been using Kimo ratchet and drill for a year. It's held up well for a weekend DIY person like me. It just doesn't feel very cheap. More middle of the road.
The original factory that produce sears craftsman tool closed.
Wow, rewatching this. After the segment about Hilti, I feel REAL good about the used Hilti hammer drill I got for $15 bucks a while back..
Kinda want to buy used cheap hilti stuff
@@lucasfrazier8021 Better a used Hilti, than new Harbor Freight.
Hilti is the best!
I'm still using the Black and Decker circular saw my dad built our house with back in 1962. Could do with a new blade, but apart from that, no issue.
I am surprised that you didn't mention ryobi but glad you did that I am extremely satisfied with them i do residential maintenance and only had to replace a drill and recip saw of the blue color after years of service of hard use and abuse
I still love my Porter Cable cordless stuff but, you're right about the cheap, clip on style charger. My solution to that was to buy the bag with the dual charger for $100. It's kinda hard to find sometimes but it's still out there. As far as batteries, CPO Outlets is my go to for them. I know you had an issue with CPO but I've never had a problem with my orders. I'll keep "hoarding" my P-C stuff until I can't get it anymore lol!
As far as tool brands that I avoid...ANYTHING that has "tough" in the name! If they have to tell me that it's tough, chances are, it ain't!
Mike Brown yes I have that all so. It’s awesome. Able to charge 2 batteries at once. I have 6 batteries and they all fit perfectly. Holds both the drills as well.
@@stgraves260 It's worth at least the $100 price just for the dual charger and 2 small batteries. The bag is an added bonus. I don't keep any tools in mine. I keep 8 of the smaller batteries in the side compartments and (6) 4ah batteries in the center. My tools and their accessories all ride in a couple of steel boxes that I welded up myself just for them. I put foam in the boxes with cutouts to keep the tools from sliding around. The boxes are mounted to a wagon frame and, of course, I painted everything gray, red and black lol!
Mike Brown LoL that’s cool. I got some of the Ridged tool boxes. I need to put foam in them and make cut outs.
RE: Hilti: On the business side, it's a matter of Capital expense vs. Operational expense. My employer requires a *lot* of paperwork and justification for capex items, but we can opex stuff all day long. That's why hilti does what they do.
Bonivus elderheart new accounting rules make companies show leased stuff on the balance sheet just like purchases these days specifically to crack down on this.
I bought a set of Williams USA 6 point sockets, 1/4" and 3/8 deep and shallow in both SAE and Metric. Spent about $450 shipped for the 8 sets. Great machining, but the roll stamping used for the sizing was small and inconsistent. Some sockets had the older Williams logo and some had the newer. It was almost like they switched stamping presses right in the middle of my order, or they were picked that way. Wouldn't have affected functionality, but my OCD tendencies got the best of me. I already own a bunch of mix matched Craftsman sockets which I why I wanted a new, 100% matching set. I sent them all back
I would have too,Williams is very disappointing
I have a couple of Porter Cable 20 volt tools, a CORDLESS tile saw and an 18 gauge nailer. Great tools - but then Lowes pulls the stuff and focuses on Craftsman. Matabo/Hitachi is another brand Lowes was pushing then pushed aside for Craftsman.
As a proffesional mechanic of 30 some odd years something I learned the hard way many years ago is that cheap second rate tools are not only not worth owning because they usually fail you when you need them the most, but can also be dangerous and can get you hurt, do yourself a favor even for the casuall DIYer and buy quality tools and stay away from the cheap China (and whereever made) lowest dollar junk, no you don't need the absolute top dollar like Snap On and Millwaukee but not the bottom basement neither, really good tools can be had for somewhere in between that can last a long time and not let you down and quit you when you need them or use them a little on the rough side.
Well said, not everything in my work box is Snap On or Matco but all the important and most used tools are. My old American made Craftsman tools serve me well at home.
Is ryobi too low end?
Any chance you could review masterforce tools? It’s the house brand from Menards
I have some that were made in USA that are good like old craftsman don't know if still good hear the not USA made anymore
I learned my lesson early on. The tools I grew up using pretty much worked indefinitely. Name brand, high end, never any down time. When I went to get tools of my own I used them the exact same way, and they wouldnt last longer than an hour worth of work time. Some of them would break within 30 minutes of turning them on. But they are cheap, so most people just go get another one. I’d rather spend a little more and not have to worry about it breaking every time I use it.
Thank You For The Info!!! That's Good To Know!!!! 👍😎
How about Harbor Freight's Lynxx? Good tools, but they're clearly being quietly discontinued in favor of Atlas.
Never had luck with any cordless power tool from hf, so I avoid all that new crap.
@@RwP223 Bauer is pretty damn good for the price. Admittedly they're sort of budget milwaukee but if I wasnt so invested in the milwaukee 18v platform already I'd probably buy Bauer stuff
THANKS BEAR, You are dead on about the tools you picked, also LMFAO at the little jokes you threw in their, damn near pissed my pants. " SHINE ON SIR BEAR ".
I hear you on the Craftsman stuff. I bought a wrench set and had one wrench off center on the box end...traded it in and got one that had grind marks on it. Ugh.
I have to agree with you for KIMO I bought one of their brushless drill drivers and it only works intermittently sometimes it works sometimes it dosent. I ended up buying another craftsman drill no issues
I’ve used hilti professionally for 15 years. Back then they were the best. I don’t see a big difference between them then and them now. The same can’t be said for the other brands which are night and day.
The problem with Hilti is that by the time the battery dies, they have discontinued it, and are stuck with a useless drill, unless you have the expertise to rebuild it yourself.
I switched over to Hilti 10 years ago. I like their 18/22 and 36 volt stuff but the 12 volt is garbage. You probably can't purchase better tools when working with concrete.
Jim Diet I’ve seen a lot of companies switch from Hilti to Makita in recent years. Makita’s top end hammer drills, concrete vibrators, and wet saws utilize a proprietary vibration and recoil management technology that redirects most of those forces back into the material your working with increasing the effectiveness of the tool.
Milwaukee gas been good and makita has, milwaukee seems to have more quality for sure though
Hilti has great deals!!! After you set up a business account at a minimum of $6,500.00 worth of purchases :) But hey, if you have to buy that much epoxy, you might as well get a free 5 piece tool kit and hepa vacuum.
We buy hundreds of thousands worth of hilti products a year...its a classic buy the fire caulking, get the gun free...but with that said, the tools are great quality and the service is top notch...salesman stops in regularly and repairs are well handled
I bought a Panasonic Impact Driver back in 2006. I looked at De Walt, Makita and a couple of others. The Panasonic just fitted my hand so well and was a very comfortable grip. Roll on fourteen years and its still going strong. Haven't needed to buy any new battery..the original two going strong. 6" screws a breeze. Haven't needed to use it so much over the past five years , but no probs when I have to. Must have screwed 200,000 plus in easily . Probably the best tool I've ever bought with regard to use/price/longevity.
Panasonic was a great tool line.
Well I've both teccpo 20v brushless drill and impact driver, was so impressed with them that I bought the multitool and the electric spray paint, had a factory issue with this one, contacted them by mail, got a brand new one within the week... So that may explain why they have so many good reviews? Great tools, feels nice, premium quality (the drill overpowers my friends dewalt by far) for a medium price (happy user here) oh almost forget, also have their orbital sander, really effective and sturdy