I also love these race/sportice/group ride vloggie vids! Keep them coming! And maybe you could give them their own play list in your channel? That would make it so much easier to find more and revisit. :)
The one-lap tactics was that failed you, that is what I think. Having participated in one 24h race (and won it with my team), I saw that in the short run, lets say the first 6 or so hours, the 1-lap tactics may be faster. But as the race progresses, longer pauses, possibility to get some sleep and the fact that you have to changes clothes 50% less times, all means higher motivation and eventually higher speed. It is much much easier to keep riding for 2 laps in a row (even in hellish conditions) than change your clothes, wait for 1,5 hours and then change and start going again. We were racing for a win against a team with 1-lap tactics and they were leading the race initially. Soon their lap times started to fade but our pace was relatively steady and eventually we won by 2 laps (about 40 minute per lap). For full disclosure - we raced in the summer in Estonia: it was raining and the night was pretty cold (but not freezing).
Its worked every time for us lot and we have done loads of 24hrs and podiumed every one we have done, including this one. It's more on how you feel can cope and trg for it. Also the pit/recovery is a big factor in it all the better the set up the better the recovery.
I've found the best balance between going out fresh and getting some sleep is to pair up. Early on do one lap each, ABCDABCD, then at night A and B do one on one off, ARAB while C and D get four laps of uninterrupted sleep, then C and D do CDCD while A and B sleep, then for the last few laps when it's light again go back to ABCD
Back in the early 2000's I did a lot of sleepless in the saddle's and mountain mayhems with a bunch of mates. We were never competitive, usually finishing about 2/3 of the way down. But it was great fun. This vid really brought back the memories! Oddly the best result we ever got was when the weather was truly awful. We were so bloody minded we carried on when more sensible teams quit.
this is such a fun video to watch. Jack still seems absolutely worn out by the event. its great to see the smiles and bright spirits shining through the miserable conditions :)
Very cool video and competition! You guys should definitely do more of those. Riding in the cold and wet weather it's just fun for a little while! 24 hours is far too much, but it is all about the adventure! God bless
Wow. Great Video! Finally the right conditions for "Epic". You MUST find a way...24 Hrs in Old Pueblo!. Tips for you: fenders, a dry panel tent...and a tent to change, better heater, oh...ride 2 laps each. That course is short enough to do that. Gives you more rest. Good luck next time!
Great Adventure video! "If I had to do it over again..." - You wouldn't sign up, based on what you went through here (and I don't blame you). Mind you, there are colder venues, but that snow/rain/mud combo really demanded more commitment, kits and giant RV's....
Me and my friend did in a pair, 3 laps on 3 laps off, and called it a day at around 11o'clock after the rain. Then woke up in the morning and decided to do 2 laps together not bad for a bunch of teenagers who race enduro, but mainly we both loved it 🤘
Yes that's a great shout! Joe and Tom have actually ridden Strathpuffer before in a quad (and won the event). We think it scarred them for life, but hopefully they can be convinced to give it a go next year. Have you raced Strathpuffer before?
Its not as much the cold (as in Minus degrees) it's the low temp and wet climate that gets you, i have been all over world in winter and lived in the wild but find it always harder to keep warm in UK...even my Canadian family who come over at Xmass say it's really cold...and they have come from -10/20 temps. Hard to explain till you try it or know what its like sort of thing. We and just done the Puffer a month earlier and won, but that was -13 temp and felt warm compared to the KC event which was warmer but loads wetter all time.
kinda surprised that 4 fairly fit mountain bikers couldn't complete a 24hr challenge but then again the conditions did look awful. Well done though guys!
Support plays a bigger role than fitness over 24h, IMO. I am fat and slow, but I've done a couple solo 24h events. The things that bit me in the ass were: 1. Not having enough bike clothing. Coming in sweat-drenched with sub 41F/5C weather meant a clothes change every lap in the wee hours. The first year I had no car, so I rode all the way home and back after each late night lap, (Only 8 miles round trip fortunately.) The second year, I had a car, cooler, nutrition, and more clothes which helped me change on site and get warm in between laps. 2. Sub par nutrition/elimination. Even the gels and items that normally see me through 6-8 hours of riding eventually turned into gut bombs, and the venue had almost no bathroom facilities. 3. Sub par fitness definitely played a role, but I was still able grind out laps. They took 2-3 times as long as the fit riders, so no riding buddy, and no drafting.
Great thing about a 24hr, as long as you finish a lap you've got a result. Not a great result but still a result. 24hrs goes by and whatever you've got is what you've got. Doesn't really matter how long or when your breaks are.
Really like these race / sportive videos. Hope to see more soon
I also love these race/sportice/group ride vloggie vids! Keep them coming! And maybe you could give them their own play list in your channel? That would make it so much easier to find more and revisit. :)
All I could think during this video is that you guys need to get a bigger couch!!
They're STILL huddling for warmth...
I was just going to post the same thing. Or maybe just use chairs?
The one-lap tactics was that failed you, that is what I think. Having participated in one 24h race (and won it with my team), I saw that in the short run, lets say the first 6 or so hours, the 1-lap tactics may be faster. But as the race progresses, longer pauses, possibility to get some sleep and the fact that you have to changes clothes 50% less times, all means higher motivation and eventually higher speed. It is much much easier to keep riding for 2 laps in a row (even in hellish conditions) than change your clothes, wait for 1,5 hours and then change and start going again. We were racing for a win against a team with 1-lap tactics and they were leading the race initially. Soon their lap times started to fade but our pace was relatively steady and eventually we won by 2 laps (about 40 minute per lap). For full disclosure - we raced in the summer in Estonia: it was raining and the night was pretty cold (but not freezing).
Its worked every time for us lot and we have done loads of 24hrs and podiumed every one we have done, including this one. It's more on how you feel can cope and trg for it. Also the pit/recovery is a big factor in it all the better the set up the better the recovery.
I've found the best balance between going out fresh and getting some sleep is to pair up.
Early on do one lap each, ABCDABCD, then at night A and B do one on one off, ARAB while C and D get four laps of uninterrupted sleep, then C and D do CDCD while A and B sleep, then for the last few laps when it's light again go back to ABCD
Back in the early 2000's I did a lot of sleepless in the saddle's and mountain mayhems with a bunch of mates. We were never competitive, usually finishing about 2/3 of the way down. But it was great fun. This vid really brought back the memories! Oddly the best result we ever got was when the weather was truly awful. We were so bloody minded we carried on when more sensible teams quit.
Done them too Phil great events and good memories :)
this is such a fun video to watch. Jack still seems absolutely worn out by the event. its great to see the smiles and bright spirits shining through the miserable conditions :)
Very cool video and competition! You guys should definitely do more of those. Riding in the cold and wet weather it's just fun for a little while! 24 hours is far too much, but it is all about the adventure! God bless
What a champ Joe is doing 2 in a row to try to pull the team up
Wow. Great Video! Finally the right conditions for "Epic". You MUST find a way...24 Hrs in Old Pueblo!. Tips for you: fenders, a dry panel tent...and a tent to change, better heater, oh...ride 2 laps each. That course is short enough to do that. Gives you more rest. Good luck next time!
Great Adventure video! "If I had to do it over again..." - You wouldn't sign up, based on what you went through here (and I don't blame you). Mind you, there are colder venues, but that snow/rain/mud combo really demanded more commitment, kits and giant RV's....
Me and my friend did in a pair, 3 laps on 3 laps off, and called it a day at around 11o'clock after the rain. Then woke up in the morning and decided to do 2 laps together not bad for a bunch of teenagers who race enduro, but mainly we both loved it 🤘
Good work lads!
I love these videos, well done!
And I used to think that 24 hour time trials were insanity!
Big respect to all of you for even attempting this in the inclement weather...
Come and do Strathpuffer 24, it's in January in Scottish Highlands, last two years it got down to -12 at night and sheet ice 😂
That couch looks cozy 😅
Dam been in a 24hr like that before
Cold n shitty lov’D it
Well.. You could use some mudguards...
never!
hahaha
Is that the new doctor who sat in the middle?
Build a bigger fire and let it get deep embers and then gradually add wood to stop it from smoking so much.
Have you guys heard about bike fenders?
What's happened to Bike Fenders? Is he ok?
Are you boys planning on doing the Kielder Chiller this year??
Can we start a kickstarter for a bigger Bikeradar sofa?
Great video but why didn't you guys run a plastic mud guard?
Awesome i wish our country do that
No one is stopping you from organizing it yourself for the benefit of all!
Is it just me or does Joe remind people of the taller Cutter Cyril in "Breaking Away"?
Do you think you could get away with a cross bike on this event?
Is there a mtb version of the timelaspe event?
Would two laps each been better? Hard two hours but twice as long to warm up with maybe a nap too?
how do ppl keep their feet warm??? thats my only prob w cold weather bike
I use plastic bags against my skin underneath thick wooly socks. It feels totally bizare but works very well.
wintershoes
How’s that Epic holding up Joe?
holy shit tom is a legend for that
Quitters never prosper. 🤬 It’s always more fun a few days later thinking back on it.
Nice brother
Speed like a Mtb bicycle
Speed like a mountain bicycle bicycle? MTBB!
MTB bicycle??? Mtb= Mountain bike!!!
So it literally says mountain bicycle bicycle!
You guys should do the 24 hours of hell in paradise (on Oahu) - much better weather and it's beautiful. Expensive trip though....
They should have used that place to train the s a s. Good try lads Shane uk 🇬🇧
The reasonable thing to do would be to equip the bikes with fenders. You would only get half as wet.
4 kits, 2 laps and extra person that go and wash/ dry kits. And winter sleeping bag wearing warm cloths. Even tent will cut it then.
Strathpuffer 24hr next
Yes that's a great shout! Joe and Tom have actually ridden Strathpuffer before in a quad (and won the event). We think it scarred them for life, but hopefully they can be convinced to give it a go next year. Have you raced Strathpuffer before?
Yeah I have raced it twice in the school teams. And will hopefully be doing it next year in a quad
First off...Well done gents. You keep talking about how cold it was, you're in England how cold can it really be??
Mark Henderson Yeah that's Finland's summer!!!!!!!
Its not as much the cold (as in Minus degrees) it's the low temp and wet climate that gets you, i have been all over world in winter and lived in the wild but find it always harder to keep warm in UK...even my Canadian family who come over at Xmass say it's really cold...and they have come from -10/20 temps. Hard to explain till you try it or know what its like sort of thing. We and just done the Puffer a month earlier and won, but that was -13 temp and felt warm compared to the KC event which was warmer but loads wetter all time.
it bothers me that after all that 'preparation' you didn't even think of even small mudguards
Epic
Ya
kinda surprised that 4 fairly fit mountain bikers couldn't complete a 24hr challenge but then again the conditions did look awful. Well done though guys!
I think it wasnt their abilities that failed them, it was their motivation.
aye, sounded like it. fair point
Support plays a bigger role than fitness over 24h, IMO. I am fat and slow, but I've done a couple solo 24h events. The things that bit me in the ass were:
1. Not having enough bike clothing. Coming in sweat-drenched with sub 41F/5C weather meant a clothes change every lap in the wee hours. The first year I had no car, so I rode all the way home and back after each late night lap, (Only 8 miles round trip fortunately.) The second year, I had a car, cooler, nutrition, and more clothes which helped me change on site and get warm in between laps.
2. Sub par nutrition/elimination. Even the gels and items that normally see me through 6-8 hours of riding eventually turned into gut bombs, and the venue had almost no bathroom facilities.
3. Sub par fitness definitely played a role, but I was still able grind out laps. They took 2-3 times as long as the fit riders, so no riding buddy, and no drafting.
Looks like spring tbh
This makes me want to go across the Atlantic next year
The spring here in Finland is way worse than that!!
If you’re looking for a better, warmer race then you should give the Madrid-Lisboa a go.
poweradenonstopseries.com/madridlisboa/
second :D
1st
Only epic if you finish- bottled it👎
Great thing about a 24hr, as long as you finish a lap you've got a result. Not a great result but still a result. 24hrs goes by and whatever you've got is what you've got. Doesn't really matter how long or when your breaks are.
Change the location to somewhere less british... 🤣