I played you while you were testing this deck! I was on jet storm, and ended up combo-ing off on turn three. Sad I didn't make the video, but happy you are still making content. Your videos provide a lot of value!
I've had emperor of bones sitting in my "cards to make decks around" pile for like a year now but never thought about the ulamog interaction, great to see someone made a good shell for it!!
Genuinely a really cool budget mono red deck. Glad to see one that isn’t based around cheap buffs and prowess. Just a solid compact combat focused deck. Great stuff
That emperor of bones deck have been out for half a year already,first featured in a youtube channel called can't be countered ,but still that deck is not very popular despite it explosiveness
About how that works,the emperor exile the ulamog,and when it adapts to bring back ulamog,his put counter ability still somehow counts ulamog himselves as a ten mana costed card in exile,therefore he enter with ten plus 1 conuter and anilinator 10 ,with haste that can attack and clear your board
feels like emperor of bones shoulda been legendary, having that effect on multiple creatures on the same side of the board seems like it would be broken
Played this deck a ton in Modern about a decade ago. Looooved it! Just played about 6 games with it here in Historic and it's even better with the new lord effects! I sorely missed that Goblin Grenade to push it over the edge when they stabilize with some big bodies on turn 4 though! :D Maybe a 1or two of Goblin Bombardment or Ramunap Ruins to try and squeeze in the last few points.
Let's make a version of that Emporer of Bones, Ullamog the Defiler deck your opponent played. Dimir or maybe Grixis Reanimator with counterspell back-up, as low curve and fast as you can make it!
It's apparently seeing itself in exile, since it's entering from exile. I suppose this is the relevant ruling: 608.2b "If the source of an ability has left the zone it was in, its last known information is used during this process", but this clause is talking about targets of abilities, so I'm not sure. EDIT: Actually, I think the correct ruling is 608.2h, but it's basically the same. Last known information.
When the game considers how many counter Ulamog should enter with, Ulamog is still in exile under the emperor of bones as it has not yet entered the battlefield
@@noodlesalad this isn't about LKI, it's about the fact the replacement effect that applies to it entering the battlefield functions before it has actually entered. at this point, it is therefore still in exile.
So in match 3, does Ulamog enter with 10 counters, because it counts itself as still in exile? Your deck obviously does not have a 10 drop which could have ended up being exiled. Thats pretty fucked up. Guaranteed annihilator 10 and 21 damage. But I guess that is just on par for the format.
love the theme! one of my favourite creators is a Ukrainian history streamer by the nickname Bushwacker, so hearing you say Bushwhacker all the time felt both great and weird xD Also kinda scary that with such a low curve and an explosive play style you can still lose to combo decks on t3 already
Why I don't like Historic or other not rotating format? Look at the 4th match: oppo could have won with only one land!!! Sadly with Foundations, Standard feels like a not rotating format! I play only Brawl now... so sad...
It’s crazy to me that you consistently get 30k views every single video while having 100k subs, you’re literally having a third of your subs as views every single video you make
The first game against izzet wizards was very satisfying. Directly lost because they attacked T2 instead of holding back. Too often they assume they're the beatdown just because they're a tempo deck, and it's always nice to see them punished for being aggressive in inappropriate situations.
just wondering if anyone is thinking about the matching / drawing mechanism of MTGA is fair or not. coz i have matched against 6 life gain deck with my boros burns, meanwhile matching most like combo deck for my bolas control decks. I had once cant draw anyone of my keycards of 4 out of 13 cards left in my library given with drawing 2-3 cards each turn with my opt / treasure cruise
@LegenVD thx mate, but that's a bit weird for me coz the rank is just reset recently, so i played the boros burn which previously i used my completely made by own bolas control to platinum and use the burn / aggro to rush to mythic finally. I mean it's kinda normal to lose like if the deck is so weak (which could be weird to be weak coz i just made mythic with the help of this deck) it could be losing to all kinds of decks. Yet in this case im not sure whether it's the matter of META for favouring putting life gain in main deck ( coz i played bo1 only ) or life gain theme deck or just ridiculously matching 6 games with the same theme of 6 different players
2 mana curve topper 😂❤
I played you while you were testing this deck! I was on jet storm, and ended up combo-ing off on turn three. Sad I didn't make the video, but happy you are still making content. Your videos provide a lot of value!
Maybe next time! The deck went through a few iterations.
That reanimator deck from match 3 was crazy might actually end up playing that myself.
It was crazy.
that emperor of bones deck seems very interesting
I’ve been playing a golgari version of it and it is very fun
@@bumpy1031got a list?
Only interesting for the person playing it, otherwise unfun to get cheesed on turn 3
I've had emperor of bones sitting in my "cards to make decks around" pile for like a year now but never thought about the ulamog interaction, great to see someone made a good shell for it!!
Genuinely a really cool budget mono red deck. Glad to see one that isn’t based around cheap buffs and prowess. Just a solid compact combat focused deck. Great stuff
That emperor of bones deck have been out for half a year already,first featured in a youtube channel called can't be countered ,but still that deck is not very popular despite it explosiveness
About how that works,the emperor exile the ulamog,and when it adapts to bring back ulamog,his put counter ability still somehow counts ulamog himselves as a ten mana costed card in exile,therefore he enter with ten plus 1 conuter and anilinator 10 ,with haste that can attack and clear your board
Can't Be Countered suchs an underrated creator. He always slaps with his creations
feels like emperor of bones shoulda been legendary, having that effect on multiple creatures on the same side of the board seems like it would be broken
18 land. A deck I would mana flood with.
8 Rack's slightly dim but much more muscular cousin...
this gives me hope to have 8 Rack on arena someday too ❤️
8-Whack… beautiful deck name. Only thing I paid attention to the whole deck tech
If you also played Imodane's Recruiter and Goblin Chieftain, you could get dangerously close to an Oops All Whacks deck. 😄
The perfect deck to made speedrun games. If you pass the turn 5, mostly you can concede
Played this deck a ton in Modern about a decade ago. Looooved it! Just played about 6 games with it here in Historic and it's even better with the new lord effects! I sorely missed that Goblin Grenade to push it over the edge when they stabilize with some big bodies on turn 4 though! :D Maybe a 1or two of Goblin Bombardment or Ramunap Ruins to try and squeeze in the last few points.
I also played this in modern back in the day. Those Gob Grenades really help.
Haste in the face, love it.
Emperor of Bones out of nowhere. That was wild.
Let's make a version of that Emporer of Bones, Ullamog the Defiler deck your opponent played. Dimir or maybe Grixis Reanimator with counterspell back-up, as low curve and fast as you can make it!
It's on the bucket list!
In match 3, why Ulamog entered with 10 +1/+1 counters? Shouldn't it enter with 0?
Somehow the ulamog sees itself in the graveyard for the counters.
It's apparently seeing itself in exile, since it's entering from exile. I suppose this is the relevant ruling: 608.2b "If the source of an ability has left the zone it was in, its last known information is used during this process", but this clause is talking about targets of abilities, so I'm not sure.
EDIT: Actually, I think the correct ruling is 608.2h, but it's basically the same. Last known information.
When the game considers how many counter Ulamog should enter with, Ulamog is still in exile under the emperor of bones as it has not yet entered the battlefield
@@noodlesalad this isn't about LKI, it's about the fact the replacement effect that applies to it entering the battlefield functions before it has actually entered. at this point, it is therefore still in exile.
I wonder if this deck could benefit from splashing a bit of white for arabella?
No Imodane's recruiter. He's a goblin at heart. 😢😂
that first hand, wouldnt you consider pitching a land
So in match 3, does Ulamog enter with 10 counters, because it counts itself as still in exile?
Your deck obviously does not have a 10 drop which could have ended up being exiled.
Thats pretty fucked up. Guaranteed annihilator 10 and 21 damage. But I guess that is just on par for the format.
Indeed, not an intuitive interaction!
love the theme! one of my favourite creators is a Ukrainian history streamer by the nickname Bushwacker, so hearing you say Bushwhacker all the time felt both great and weird xD
Also kinda scary that with such a low curve and an explosive play style you can still lose to combo decks on t3 already
Why I don't like Historic or other not rotating format? Look at the 4th match: oppo could have won with only one land!!! Sadly with Foundations, Standard feels like a not rotating format! I play only Brawl now... so sad...
you play arena still?
I hate those red deck! Congrats
It’s crazy to me that you consistently get 30k views every single video while having 100k subs, you’re literally having a third of your subs as views every single video you make
Say, you look familiar. Ain't you the kid I found in my tool shed 🤔
Muxus not good enough?
Way too expensive for this type of deck. Muxus has also fallen off in Historic, not the card it used to be sadly.
Imagine having the free time to play that Samwise Familiar garbage.
The first game against izzet wizards was very satisfying. Directly lost because they attacked T2 instead of holding back. Too often they assume they're the beatdown just because they're a tempo deck, and it's always nice to see them punished for being aggressive in inappropriate situations.
This deck doesn't beat around the bush huh?
No Castle Emberith?
It's an option, but the format is so fast that we would rarely get a chance to activate it, while sometimes costing us games when it enters tapped.
8-Wack brings me back to your MTGO vids lvd.
LOL as usual my luck suck while playing this, all opponents prepared.
Great name for a deck! xD
Aand smash
Match 5 opponent should just attack. They know they've won, there's no cards left in hand. Kind of a jerk move to draw out a game that's already over.
As someone who doesn’t play this format, this was interesting to watch, but this format looks insanely not fun. 😅
what is this, a MTGO video??
Unfortunately, historic is completely ruined by these reanimator/infinite loop decks
just wondering if anyone is thinking about the matching / drawing mechanism of MTGA is fair or not. coz i have matched against 6 life gain deck with my boros burns, meanwhile matching most like combo deck for my bolas control decks. I had once cant draw anyone of my keycards of 4 out of 13 cards left in my library given with drawing 2-3 cards each turn with my opt / treasure cruise
The unranked play queue has weird matchmaking, ranked games do not.
@LegenVD thx mate, but that's a bit weird for me coz the rank is just reset recently, so i played the boros burn which previously i used my completely made by own bolas control to platinum and use the burn / aggro to rush to mythic finally. I mean it's kinda normal to lose like if the deck is so weak (which could be weird to be weak coz i just made mythic with the help of this deck) it could be losing to all kinds of decks. Yet in this case im not sure whether it's the matter of META for favouring putting life gain in main deck ( coz i played bo1 only ) or life gain theme deck or just ridiculously matching 6 games with the same theme of 6 different players
cool deck. too bad it in such a trash format
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