THE MIGHTIEST MAGE IS ODD! | Constructed | Hearthstone
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- Part 2 of 2 of our Rastakhan Mage adventures.
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Jens I love you
i like how at 14:10 baku totally failed her stated objective.
hahaha I'm going to think of that every time I play Baku now :D
You win comment/observation of the day!
I remember a Time when 1 cairne was a force to be reckoned with... today: 7 cairnes easy, Quick work, not nearly enough value..
Honestly the editing on Trump’s channel is outstanding, makes his content 10x better.
Ragnaros 5 stars at 8 mana, Janalal 3 stars at 7 mana 4/4 + rag lol
James Potter but only in controlling mage decks.
@@Flourish38 jup that's the problem
Conditional Rag. Jan'alai isn't gonna trigger any time soon if you don't specifically build your deck around it.
the only reason is because ragnoros could be used in every single class, so any control deck could use him. Now janail can only be used in 1 class
When will you people understand that the stars aren't judging the strength of the card? The stars are judging how often they will be used, which won't be often if odd mage won't be used.
Seeing Trump playing any deck the first month of expansion is such a rollercoaster of emotions.
THE MIGHTIEST MAGE IS ODD.
Easy to be the mightiest since you are the only mage deck played
I learned from this video that odd mage is better than odd mage. I'm really glad I know that now.
lorenzo bassi people still play big spell mage and tempo mage (with spellzerker now), so not sure what you’re talking about unless you’re referring to the video only??
There are many odd mage decks though. We need more descriptive labels :P
@@Radarssbm I made a new account a month ago and got a 13 game win streak with tempo mage with starting cards. It's not 'weak', it just sucks against current meta decks, along with big mage(less bad).
This is the first time I've seen someone with the Rag/Jaina interaction of the lifesteal blast.
Here can we see Trump in his natural habitat, being bitten back by cards he thought were bad or archetypes that he considered memes.
All mages are odd.
i have an odd elemage, an elemental mage(all mana costs) and a pocket galaxy mage(all mana costs). of the three, i find my strongest is odd elemage, but my favorite to play is probably my pocket galaxy, because meme decks are a blast
Works until you match up with a druid. Now, druid WANT to be cancer. Every morning Malfurion wakes up, he is shaking because he is exited. "Oh boy! I'm going to be a tumor today!"
Queue the rise of taunt druid
And then you get Shudderwock.. ..and then you get Mech Warrior :(( Oh and almost forgot also got couple Priests, Valen/Maly combo and Hand full Mind Blast ones. So pretty much loses to everything #rip
Eh, any mage works well against big beast Druid. Polymorph = death of witching hour.
Somebody forgot that poly is even cost card. Maybe non-odd mage deck would work better.
@@Kier4n99 Witching Hour is unnecessary. Undertakah + Astral Tiger is the way now.
0:26
merry hanok-christmas
a god
Omg its creeperino
wait a minute... this isnt a kripp video
Best editor in all of heart stone.
I normally dislike rogues, but that rogue deck was really cool and probably fun to play
So you finally had your first couple fight. What a wonderful moment
This is the one deck, I’ve been playing all day. And somehow, Jens’ insane IQ knew that..
The ending always gives me the chills... in a bad way
10:00 is pure gold
That deathrattle rogue held out surprisingly well. Yknow, until Trump pulled out the Flamestrikes and Dragon Furies and Voodoo Dolls.
If I had a dime for every time Trump misplayed and it worked out for him
I'd have 2 Rastakhan Packs.
Don't lie to us jens, we now you tore him a new one about that shirt!
I didn't even notice the outline thing, but I do think the second shirt looks better on Trump.
24:30 - RIP arcane artificer
I think Kripp is waiting for an apology!
Playing Rag at 6:25 might have been the worst play Ive ever seen
I was thinking just dragon's fury, you have at least 5 damage. With less targets left the Rag becomes better.
I dont Even know what he was thinking
i think it was a good play
dragons fury still leaves 8 damage on the board while trump has nothing and low health
#justrank20things
@@DreadVille1 8 damage is better then 21
Totaly Digging the music!
Try Discard Warlock, it's finally not entirely terrible and is actually really fun to play!
(If you don't mind loosing to almost every top tier deck)
So you lose to almost every top tier deck but it's not terrible? That sounds like a contradiction to me.
Beta Factor What? A deck can still be “not terrible” even though it isn’t top tier.
@@pivotsvsstickman There's currently 24 decks with 50%+ winrate on hsreplay. Discard warlock is at 41%. That's terrible, not matter how you look at it.
@@TheAce12570 I take 41% while having fun any day over playing the same thing over and over again ;) I'm not trying to get to rank 1 legend with discard warlock I'm just enjoying playing something different. And 41% is actually pretty good for a "just4fun" deck.
@@SirJohnsonLebaws "the same thing over and over again" *24 decks*
Imposible to win a value game againts the value King! Hahaha
Trump 2018:
*"Am I smarter than I think I am?"*
I don't see how anyone can be surprised by Janalal's performance. He literally summons a minion that was HOF'd for being too powerful to stay in standard. Rag.
Its good that Duplicate isn't in standard, or Janalal would be degenerate as fuck lol.
At 6:10 should have just used dragons fury + voodoo + ping, that will set up the ragnaros play
11:42 odd mage in a nutshell
Argenti a
3 S T A R S
Holy shit that misplay at 6:18 lmao. why would you ever leave that Umbra up, ESPECIALLY knowing he had Sonja in hand? Just fucking dragons fury lol.
It's pretty crazy just how strong Ragnaros still is despite power creep.
It got moved to hall of fame for a reason
A tribute to the Toast stream today: Ice Scream Peddler - 1 star.
Outstanding Matches
I still run allana in this deck. Works pretty well tbh
Hey guys, is it worth crafting Hagatha for Even Shaman? I'm at rank 16 rn with an even shaman deck that doesn't have Lich King, Hagatha, or Kalimos, and I'm definitely not crafting Lich King or Kalimos because they're rotating out in a month or so, but is Hagatha worth it for Even Shaman? My variant of the deck is a bit on the aggressive side so I'm wondering whether Hagatha will actually slow my deck down with the AOE.
Second question: What's the best deck against Secret Hunter? I've run into about 8 of them in a row now and I actually decided to replace a few minions in my deck with 2 or less health just to dodge Deathstalker Rexxar and explosive trap but I'm wondering if there's a better counter deck to it. I mean, I've been on a huge win streak rn against it with Even Shaman but I feel like it's really sketchy (betting on them not drawing explosive trap, Zul'jin, Rexxar, etc)
Andrew Sun Lich King rotates out in February so still would recommend. Hagatha gives you almost infinite value so I say it makes up for the possible killing of your own minions,
However, as a whole, even shaman is a bit more midrange than aggro
Lich King doesn't rotate until April. That's 4 months away. Personally, he is my No. 1 choice out of any of those, but Hagatha would be number 2 as a massive value generator.
u agro or control even shaman
Pretty much aggro. No Lich King or Hagatha right now so the deck really can't afford to go into prolonged matches, so I just took out some of the slower cards and made it more of a tempo/aggro deck. It kinda feels like zoo, but a bit more sticky on the board and can generate tokens more easily.
Imo Hagatha is a safe and valuable craft and will be staying till 2020 April.
Tech in some Chief Inspector to counter those secrets
Trump you're not allowed to run Blast Wave.
:editorsalty:
How about abusing the button - Dragon control warrior?
6:11 voodo doll the full cairne ping it then dragons furry clears board and only leaves a lonely son. That one hurt a little. Yolo rag sometimes isn't the answer.
Edit: take this with a grain of salt since its coming from the haha kingsbane even rouge guy. Giving sub par advice everywhere i go.
I didn't see the voodoo doll, but playing dragon's fury was mandatory there.
Trump has slipped into subpar play
You mean dragons fury then doll + ping right? Same board state but you get a water elemental as well.
@@DieEnteable yes you are correct that would be much better
Big Spell Elemental Mage works pretty good for me R6
What a nice budget deck
wow trump underrated a card? who knew
What do you think about the aggro version of this deck that runs nightstalker and leeroy
So far i am 15-2 so it seems pretty good
this rogue was so bad he could get 1/1 umbra in hand
yes, the first game rogue should have won easily.
I think he was betting on Trump not having a board clear, idk why you would assume a mage doesn't have a board clear but he did.
@@TeppiaxD I'm gonna say because you'd have to be a moron not to play it there lol
Trump has officially dethroned Kripp as the king of mediocre plays.
Lmao Kripp? Mediocre plays? Ok
Guess some people were getting an eyesore from the shirt outlines. Trump cares about his viewers!
damn rag is back
The 3 stars-man!
Nice use of artificer
That play at 6:25 made me so mad.
odd mage vs odd mage is the mightiest snorefest
deck code?
nice haircut man
i run tinkmaster in the deck and it's great.
Jaina can't rotate soon enough. She makes every mage game the same
I Also Love Humanity
lol can't wait for the set rereview
This guy looks like Steven hawkings
Who would have throught, Ragnaros, a card *BANISHED FROM STANDARD AS AN 8 MANA 8/8 DEAL 8 RANDOMLY EACH TURN* would see play at 7 mana with an additional 4/4! Amazing!
then rated 3 stars by trump >.>
Nice ending (5 trumps dancing)
I am not a gay
What about the good and old elemental mage ?
Diony Augusto I've been playing an elemental mage similar to Kiblers old list, but updated with a few new cards. Arcanosaur is actually a great card because spell Hunter is back
3 STAR MAN
but... no game no life... i liked that shirt.
Trump why don't you go cubes instead of stone hills on rags and dragons fury to trigger for 2 xD
It's like you forgot that 8 mana ragnaros was removed from standard for being too OP...
Thank god, it's not king's bane rogue.
Missed lethal in the first match :(
Tried Odd Mage myself, I had to remove Zola because bouncing Jan'alai happened so rarely that it wasn't worth it. Also Zilliax didn't improve the deck's performance too much either.
Took the words right out of my keyboard. I ran the deck without those two (Astromancers instead) in Brawliseum and got 12-1.
Probably one of those cases where people convince themselves more expensive = better.
Zilliax was mainly useful for more Zoo type decks, where being able to kill something, potentially two things and gain more life is good.
That being said, I feel it's one of those card's that's so/so. It would be more effective if it had something to combo off
I took it the other way and used alanna too. More value for zola and it worked suprisinly well because they dont expect it in odd mage
Astromancer is pretty amazing. I probably run one too many blaze callers too, just don't have a baron gedon yet, never saw the point in crafting it.
@@lordbiscuitthetossable5352 Reno Jackson part 2? Xd
I love this deck but i lose literally every game vs druid and i face a lot of druids atm (rank 4) kinda sucks
Jan'alai is your ally trump , why did you rate him 3 stars?
Because he didn't/doesn't think odd mage will be tier 1. And I agree. An allstar card in a "bad" deck is not worthy of 5 stars. Odd mage got a power boost but I don't think its T1 yet. That said, the meta is still a gelatinous soup right now that could be anything, guess we'll find out in a few weeks.
@@shino4242 You are not wrong about the it not being a tier 1 deck. however its a very solid tier 2 deck probably in my mind a upper tier 2 deck. it curves very nicely and has a lot of flexibility for tech so it can overcome some of it's worse match ups. also this deck is insane against aggro
@@NeilFosterTheDarkGameMaster Question...whats your point? I said it's not T1, you agree. So we're on the same page. So...it doesn't really go against anything I'm saying, yet your wording implies you are attempting to counterpoint/appeal to me on some level. Basically a "yeah, but...". Heck I was already generous and left room open for it to be potentially T1 when the new set meta settles down (though probably not).
So what's your "but". Because your but sounds like exactly what I already said...its a great card in a not T1 deck, meaning it isn't 5 stars.
The way most streamers, Trump included, tend to decide if a card is 5 star worthy or not, it needs to either be a card that goes into basically every deck (like giggling), goes into every deck of that class and have that class be good (spreading plague), or completely warp the metagame around them (several death knights, baku/genn, etc). On paper, its effect in a vaccume, Janalai is insane...its a 1 mana cheaper ragnaros with an additional 4/4 body attached. And rag was so good they banned him. But you can't just look at things in a vaccume. You have to look at the whole puzzle. And thats the thing...star ratings aren't set in stone.
Three examples of this:
Malygos. He's a card you always have to at least think about anytime they make either cheap damage spells or ways to cheat mana costs. Yet he goes through periods of being basically unplayable...yet right now he's a living disaster that destroys everything in his wake with the flick of the wrist and is the star player in one of the most consistent T1 combo decks in the game. But "tomorrow", he might be unplayable trash.
Almost every card in quest rogue: Everybody thought the rogue quest was a joke. Everybody thought it would be too hard to pull off consistently enough to actually be relevant. And if you look at its various deck lists at each stage of it being in power...its a deck that seems to be full of trash. Like, holy crap, on paper almost every card in that deck is trash. All only being usable because of the quest being so singularly powerful.
Many of the minion/silverhand recruit synergies in odd paladin: Raid Leader and Stormwind Champion as 2 examples have both made unironic appearances in that deck at times. Those are terrible cards that happen to have found their soul mate with the silver hand hero power.
At the time of the rating and even now that the deck appears to NOT be a total joke, It's a 3 (maaaybe 4) star card. It may pull a malygos and be stupidly insane next set where its revealed blizzard game mage a way to play 3 one mana janalais in one turn and trigger end of turn effects 5 times a turn, in which case it becomes re-evaluated.
But that's tomorrow. Today, its not there yet.
@@shino4242 chill bro
@@ReaperAHHH I am chill. I simply explained my PoV. You don't get to be absolved of being incorrect by falsely claiming that I'm on some imaginary rage tirade.
EDIT: you guys can troll me all you want, it doesn't change anything.
Why does Trump always sound like he's congested, he always sounds like he's speaking out of his nose.
*That's odd.*
THE 3 STARS MAN
at least not 1 star
is baron and zola needed in this? i dont have them but have everything else and it looks pretty good
Zola is there for more value to copy the loa. If you want to keep up the value then you can try adding in servants of kalimos. They arnt great but it's something or try out astromancers if you have them.
baron geddon yes, zola no.
ahh okay well ima wait another week for the meta to cool down and i’ll probably make this then, thanks guys 👌
I was here, when there were only 24 comments, 149 views, 45 likes and 0 dislikes.
Does this deck beat kingsbane
? Cause I wouldn’t want to play a deck that doesn’t.
Played 6 times against it or so, won every time. If you Jaina isn't in your bottom 10, you should win I think.
If you manege to get your jaina in play, you can just keep on freezing his face,
7 mana 4/4 that summons the most busted minion ever for free?
3 Stars!!!
Jaina DK is cancer. Can't wait for it to rotate out.
At 21:24 Trump says his opponent is playing the Rag Math....what exactly was he talking about here? I dont see how the opponent trading his flame elemental did anything special
Had to feel bad for the Rogue...that innovation belongs only in trash-Tier-wild.
I tried this deck and i legit just get smorced to death every time .... :(
Can we have a skippo trumpo account or something?
Control mage > Big spell and odd
I’ve seen this deck today probably like 12 times man am really sicko of playing against them am using zoljin hunter but for some reason I struggle a lot when they put Jaina out man
Yeah, Frost Lich does that to most decks. If you can't kill her immediately she's almost unbeatable with her combination of endless value + heals to not die. Much like Deathstalker Rexxar really.
Can't wait for the next set, when they;ll finally rotate out.
NivMizzet89 yeah but at first I was not running deathstslker rexxar but then i have tu put it in but i struggle to chose the value play of rexxar when I face odd mage I mean if I play it first it’s seems to be always better than zuljin hero power that’s only 2 damage but i guess that’s the beauty of the deck that you can play really agro or control kind of but still really hard match for me
4:30 rogue really should have heropowered for double cairn instead of playing the shitty 4 drop
Trunk, you have no 2 Mana Cost , why not run Keleseth?
Take a closer look at Baku's effect mister...
I was there Pog
Trump is literally insane.6:15 Dragon's Fury + Voodoo Doll + Ping removes all but 2 Banes and gets him a water ele. But Instead, he goes for some random Rag play.
its arguable which is the better play, but your path wouldve still left 9/10 in stats on his board and put very little pressure on the opponent while theyre already ahead, playing jana'lai was the greatest tempo swing he couldve done, forcing him to spend his turn dealing with ragnaros while also immediately healing for 8 thanks to the death knight. It also set up for a much cleaner dragons fury the following turn
@@AltProtomix is it though...because that rag play does not decrease the damage on the board 2/7 times and actually increases the damage 1/7 times. Another 1/7 times it hits Arfus. It also leaves behind Umbra and Deathrattle effects that can be taken advantage of. Over half the times the result sucks.
Also, you said that it sets up for a clean dragon's fury. It's only clean if the cairnes don't get traded in - and one of the cairnes was frozen. The only reason it ended up being so clean is because the Rag hit exactly the frozen cairne AND he ended up getting Sophia to go with it, which encouraged the trade.
However, if it wasn't for Sophia, it is likely that the Rogue would have decided to play around AoE and instead trades in Bane, leaving behind 2 more Cairnes if rag didn't get the 2/7 of hitting a cairne..
Playing Rag against such a large board is also extremely vulnerable to Vilespine. Now, I haven't played the game since halfway through the last expansion and do not know standard lists, but I would imagine Vilespine is still an auto include.
The water Elemental play only puts you 9 stats behind. What's more is that it cannot be effectively traded into by the 2 Banes due to the Freeze/Lifesteal and is much less vulnerable to Vilespine. It also removes Umbra, which is a huge threat and sets up a safer board to drop rag the turn after and potentially baiting out Vilespine to protect the Rag.
For some reason I expected odd paladin
Who is Jens ? Reveal Pls
*T H E R A G M A N*
It was obviously 5 stars
Always
Alana its too slow?
You can throw her but it is really going to be for super value metas. You only have 6 big spells which are really few. We don't have blizzard or meteor so...
I have her in my list right now and have yet to play her once. Currently 27-3 with the deck though, so haven't replaced it
Oh the tyrany of Jens, forcing Trump to change shirts! Please, no more!
Everyone's playing this even at rank 20ish. It's kinda boring after 50 matches