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  • 🎓Become a Math Master With My Intro To Proofs Course!
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    Did you know 2=1 and 1=2? (just kidding). This video shows a great argument for it though! (or does it?)
    These are some of my absolute favorite mathematical proofs. Every aspiring math person should see these math proofs at least once! I hope you enjoy the mathematics!
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  • @BriTheMathGuy
    @BriTheMathGuy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +127

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    • @unbelievable961
      @unbelievable961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sir , please can you recommend a book for whole geometry with there proofs...∞

    • @SunHail8
      @SunHail8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      just a false logic: algebraic equation doesn't mean you can plug in any X you want to satisfy it.

    • @imincent1767
      @imincent1767 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      bro really dded pythagorean theorum

  • @BangkokBubonaglia
    @BangkokBubonaglia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1939

    Over the years I have seen many tricks to make 1=2. They all involved either: a) division by zero. Or b) jumping a branch cut. For example, if you want to make -1 = 1, just square both sides, and then take the square root of both sides. (Hide it in symbols of course). Once you have -1 = 1, you can do anything else you want through scaling and translation.

    • @methatis3013
      @methatis3013 2 ปีที่แล้ว +130

      So either division by zero or applying reverse functions to non-bijective functions
      Eg sin(2π) = sin (0)
      => 2π = 0

    • @poubellestrange7515
      @poubellestrange7515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      There is also one more subtle way that I know of, that is making use of algebraic properties in reals that do not hold with complex numbers, like sqrt(ab) = sqrt(a)sqrt(b) and (a^b)^c = a^(bc). For example, sqrt((-1)(-1)) = sqrt(-1)sqrt(-1) and (e^(2ipi + 1))^(2ipi + 1) = e^(2ipi + 1)^2 are both false statements.

    • @SpeedyMemes
      @SpeedyMemes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@poubellestrange7515 I have seen the e^(2ipi +1) trick on mathologer's second channel - is that where you found it?

    • @poubellestrange7515
      @poubellestrange7515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@SpeedyMemes Yes, however, that (a^b)^c = a^(bc) doesn’t hold is actually a “well” known fact that complex analysis books usually cover.

    • @funtamilanallrounder2700
      @funtamilanallrounder2700 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Then we can add 2 to both side and make 1=3 , +1 to (2=4) then divide both side by 2 , and get 1=2 , also this prove that 1=2=3

  • @derechoplano
    @derechoplano 2 ปีที่แล้ว +566

    About 35 years ago, my Math high school teacher did this 2=1 trick on the blackboard. It took me some time to figure out the problem. My teacher congratulated me in front of the class. Fond memories. Thanks. You made me smile.

    • @BriTheMathGuy
      @BriTheMathGuy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      That is awesome!

    • @jacklee8385
      @jacklee8385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This luckily isn't too hard to find what's wrong

    • @Mono_Autophobic
      @Mono_Autophobic ปีที่แล้ว +8

      35yr ago 😶
      How old r u now

    • @executioner__
      @executioner__ ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Mono_Autophobicaround 45-50

    • @comradelovespain5714
      @comradelovespain5714 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@executioner__man was in high school at the age of 10?

  • @eltolufe2549
    @eltolufe2549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +391

    A spanish divulgator did things like this some months ago. it's a really good feeling when you figure out what went wrong.

    • @BriTheMathGuy
      @BriTheMathGuy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Right?!

    • @co2kp639
      @co2kp639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Quantum fracture reference

    • @diamante8864
      @diamante8864 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@co2kp639 yesssssssss

    • @el_saltamontes
      @el_saltamontes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@co2kp639 Que grande Guantum Fracture

    • @jcano7526
      @jcano7526 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Crespo xd

  • @solveeasyacademy186
    @solveeasyacademy186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +524

    A mathematician once said anything could be done in mathematics as long as we are all ready to beat the consequences. I love this.

    • @sumdumbmick
      @sumdumbmick ปีที่แล้ว

      and then Whitehead and Russell boldly proclaimed they'd succeeded, and Kurt Godel showed them they were actually just illiterate morons living in a fantasy world of make believe and abelian groups.

    • @MichaelClark-uw7ex
      @MichaelClark-uw7ex ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If you do enough math tricks you can make any equation equal a ham sandwich.

  • @Masonova1
    @Masonova1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    This is the single best argument I have ever heard against referring to dividing both sides of an equation by a common term as "canceling"

    • @mcr9822
      @mcr9822 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I had a math teacher that was a hardass about that. He insisted that we use “divide out” or whatever, to remind us that we aren’t just ignoring those elements like they never existed. We’re doing division.

  • @funnysecs4299
    @funnysecs4299 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I didn't knew you could prove Pythagoras theorem like that. Its very easy

    • @BriTheMathGuy
      @BriTheMathGuy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thanks for watching!

    • @urisinger3412
      @urisinger3412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      what

    • @rcb3921
      @rcb3921 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You should check out this Mathologer vid: th-cam.com/video/p-0SOWbzUYI/w-d-xo.html -- some really nice proofs of Pythagoras. My personal favorite is at 6:16

  • @Inspirator_AG112
    @Inspirator_AG112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    *AT TIMESTAMP [**00:48**]:*
    If the variable's coefficient on both sides of the equation are different, then that variable is zero.

  • @tanxros
    @tanxros 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    This video was definitely worth a watch even though I've studied most of these concepts in my junior high and senior high school
    Feels refreshing

    • @floridafan561
      @floridafan561 ปีที่แล้ว

      High key flex? Or low key sarcasm ?

  • @OptimusPhillip
    @OptimusPhillip ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The funny thing is that the first problem could still work even after the dividing by 0, if you just handled the math a little differently. a+b=b, subtract b from both sides, and you get a=0. 2b=b can also be a true statement if and only if b=0.

  • @MrDuck313
    @MrDuck313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +183

    Nice video (although a bit basic imo, I'm used to more advanced calculus problem from you). For this type of video I would suggest a clear "divider" between the different problems. Took me all the way to the conclusion of the Pythagorean theorem to realize that there was no connection to the first problem!

  • @snekburrito
    @snekburrito 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    wow I wish I had stumbled across this video back when I was teaching algebra 2 to my high school classes. You have a great way of explaining the fundamentals.

    • @APKZ04
      @APKZ04 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      u know its wrong tho right

    • @NoName-rd6et
      @NoName-rd6et 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@APKZ04 whats wrong with it

  • @funtamilanallrounder2700
    @funtamilanallrounder2700 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    -1 = 1 because squaring both side give 1
    Therefore , Then we can add 2 to both side and make 1=3 , and then +1 to (2=4) then divide both side by 2 , and get 1=2 , also this prove that 1=2=3

    • @kromydas5063
      @kromydas5063 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Bion simply, the converse of a statement is not necessarily true.
      an easy example is: if person A is thirsty, person A drinks water. If person A drinks water, person A is thirsty. The second statement is not necessarily true.

    • @goldenwarrior1186
      @goldenwarrior1186 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kromydas5063 if person A is thirsty but there’s no water nearby and no way to make water, they won’t be able to drink water. First statement disproved

    • @kromydas5063
      @kromydas5063 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@goldenwarrior1186 its just an example. Assume there is water smhhhhhh

  • @SBC-41
    @SBC-41 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    So many of these caught me so off guard. This man is a legend at explaining math. Really intrigued. Keep up the good work!

  • @markgraham2312
    @markgraham2312 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent!

  • @TerribleTonyShow
    @TerribleTonyShow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    3:55 so essentially
    lim x → ∞
    then have a list that maps one to one with all the integers
    1*x^(1/x), 2*x^(1/x), 3*x^(1/x)...
    everything will be 0 converging to 1

  • @lolomolo
    @lolomolo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thought about it because my high school teacher taught me about it: at 0:30 how can you divide both side with (a-b) without knowing that (a-b) isn’t equal to 0 or a number? It’s a pretty simple thing but it’s so overlooked and my high school teacher just made everyone confused but also understood why this can’t exactly be done

  • @Dsub-yk5ej
    @Dsub-yk5ej 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    dividing by zero is such a barrier that prevents counter intuitive math like 2=1. it pops up everywhere like a vertical line, where all values y have the same x. the slope is undefined or 0/0. in fact, math really enforces the "zero barrier" that even if we try to define it, we get a 0 counted numbering system.
    in the end though all im trying to say is any problem where there could be multiple answers, there is a division by zero something. like the 0th root of x

  • @Jo-qb6zt
    @Jo-qb6zt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Point with the numbers between 1 and 0, it isn't possible to list them all because it goes till infinity, but you can do the exact same thing with natural numbers, just leave away the "." in it. you can add 0s (nn>1)after the "."
    in both ways the number go untill infinity

  • @MrHotBagel
    @MrHotBagel ปีที่แล้ว +12

    3:02
    I like this derivation. Something similar was probably done to prove the sum of arithmetic sequences formula since it's essentially the same:
    S=n(a1+an)/2
    where in this case a1 = 1 and an=n (since the subscript value/sequence number matches the actual value of the term)

  • @spoookley
    @spoookley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    3:54 a counter point to this infinity being larger than every whole number: mirror the number over the decimal point. So 0.1 becomes 1 & 0.095 becomes 590. Since you can do this with every number between 0 & 1 that disproves that it’s a larger infinity, in turn making them equal.

    • @dw6561_
      @dw6561_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Your argument assumes that every number between 0 and 1 has a finite decimal expansion, which is false. 1/3 is a simple counterexample.

    • @idrisShiningTimes
      @idrisShiningTimes ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dw6561_ This ^

    • @PhilosophicalNonsense-wy9gy
      @PhilosophicalNonsense-wy9gy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Both the natural number set of all numbers and the real number set of numbers between 0 and 1, can have an infinite expansion. The natural number set has infinite expansion on the left side of the decimal point, the real number set of no.s between 0 and 1 has infinite expansion on the right side of the decimal point. Thus, both these infinities are equal as long as you keep the real number set as the numbers between 0 and 1.
      To categorize the scales of different kinds of infinity, lets consider in how many different ways they are infinite. In natural no. set of all positive integers, two criterion are applicable.
      1. The value of the number can keep increasing endlessly
      2. The set has infinite expansion towards the left side
      Now lets compare to the second set:
      1. The value of the numbers can be of infinitely different values between 0 and 1
      2. It has infinite expansion towards the right side
      But when we consider the real no. set of all positive numbers, there comes 3rd criterion:
      3. Just like the 2 criterion are applicable between 0 and 1, so are they applicable for between any other numbers, thus infinity of those numbers follow those two criteria
      Thus, the N set has 2 criteria while the R set has 3 criteria, thus R set of all positive numbers is a bigger infinity.

    • @PhilosophicalNonsense-wy9gy
      @PhilosophicalNonsense-wy9gy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@dw6561_the natural no. set also has infinite expansion but to a direction opposite to that of the R set of no.s between 0 and 1

  • @alflyover4413
    @alflyover4413 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wrote "if a = b then 2 = 1" on the whiteboard in an engineering lab once along with the equations. I came back a day or two later, and found the board covered, literally covered, with the equations. The characters were written with oddball strokes and weird fonts, apparently to keep them straight, but for every one the conclusion was inexorable: If A = B then 2 = 1. That is a solid example of what "division by zero is undefined" means.
    I have a notion that doing anything else with the equation once it has been reduced to 0 = 0 is suspect, maybe more than a little bogus, but I don't have a good feel for how to attack the proof.

  • @owentang546
    @owentang546 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very interesting. I saw all of these before, except the Euler's Formula proof.

  • @pastaplatoon6184
    @pastaplatoon6184 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    A quick question regarding the uncountable infinity between 1 and 0, I've seen this multiple times and understood it pretty well so I never really questioned it, although I just realized; wouldn't the "add x to the xth row and repeat" trick also work on an unordered set of infinitely long and random integers as well? Therefore making a number between 0 and infinity that doesn't appear on the list of integers? Or does it have something to do with the "0." that comes before the listed numbers between 0 and 1.

    • @jaredellison326
      @jaredellison326 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The key is that they have to be a list of infinite strings of digits in order for the uncountability trick to work. Only then can you can ensure a difference between your generated number and each one in the list. Every natural number "between" zero and infinity terminates in a finite number of digits. While even with two characters in infinite strings the diagonal trick works to show it is uncountable, there is another trick to show countability for rational, integers, etc. .

    • @jaredellison326
      @jaredellison326 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh, in other words it has more to do with infinite string to the right of the decimal point for uncountability, than the 0 on the left.

    • @pastaplatoon6184
      @pastaplatoon6184 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jaredellison326 that's what I was thinking, after posting this I did a bit of research, I suppose it has to do with this: when an integer has a string of infinite digits, it essentially diverges off to infinity and is no longer an integer at that point. so a list of them wouldn't exactly work for Cantor's diagonalization process as they would all technically be equal to infinity since they all have infinite digits and therefore would no longer be "integers between 0 and infinity".
      At least that's just from what I've read, I could be wrong on that but it felt like it made the most sense. 😅

    • @-danR
      @-danR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was never comfortable with the idea that Cantorian diagonal method was a _proof_ . It seems more like a demonstration.

    • @bobbun9630
      @bobbun9630 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pastaplatoon6184Among other reasons, non-terminating decimals are required because the set of all terminating decimals is a subset of the rational numbers. It's all the rational numbers where the denominator contains only powers of two and five. Since the rational numbers are countable any subset of them is at most countable. This subset of the rational numbers has another interesting characteristic that could have been demonstrated in this introductory video, though... They are the full set of numbers with two distinct decimal representations: A representation that terminates (or ends in an infinite number of zeros, if you prefer) and a representation that ends in an infinite string of nines.

  • @parthpandey2030
    @parthpandey2030 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:09 I plugged in the Ramanjuan Summation into this formula and got infinity when n = infinity instead of -1/12

  • @ARCHLANTS
    @ARCHLANTS 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The algebraic use on 0:35 is 0=0 which you cant substitute which makes the expression wrong

  • @shashankraj277
    @shashankraj277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Always keep up the good work 👏

  • @greekfox21
    @greekfox21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You can't simply divide both sides with (a-b), in order to do this tou need to tell that a-b≠0 because division with zero breaks math, so tou have a≠b wich can't be happening since we have set a=b.

  • @Yadobler
    @Yadobler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    6:10 that's how A1,A2,A3,A4... ISO sized paper works!
    the ratio of length to width is sqrt(2)
    if you fold A4 in half lengthwise, you get A5 size, and likewise if you put 2 A4s lengths against each other, you get A3!
    because if A4 is L * W, then the ratio L/W is equal to W/2L (for A5) and 2W/L (for A3)
    L/W = 2W/L
    (L/W) ^ 2 = 2

  • @looikaloc1520
    @looikaloc1520 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Nice video! I've always wanted to take a look at the infinite primes proof but never got a chance to do so. The rest are common brainteasers I've seen before.

  • @martinjoster3282
    @martinjoster3282 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another way I thought of to do that last one is;
    pk is prime
    pk must divide N
    N/pk must be a whole number
    N/pk = (p1*p2*p3...*pk*...*pn+1)/pk
    Which is also...
    N/pk = (p1*p2*p3...*pk*...*pn)/pk + 1/pk
    We're dividing and multiplying by pk, so we cancel it out...
    N/pk = (p1*p2*p3...*...*pn) + 1/pk
    p1*p2...*pn is whole, as it's a multiplication of whole numbers
    However, this still leaves us with 1/pk, which can only be whole if pk = 1.
    1 is not prime.
    There is no prime "pk" that divides N.

  • @dmace14
    @dmace14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you write all the natural numbers backwards and have infinite zeros to the right of them:
    1 = 100000…
    2 = 200000…
    3 = 300000…

    9 = 900000…
    10= 010000…
    11 = 110000…

    You can do the same thing that you did with all the real numbers between 0 and 1 to find that there is a number you don’t have on the list

  • @annabashline9882
    @annabashline9882 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    .0, .1, .2, .3, .4, .5, .6, .7, .8, .9, .01, .11, .21, .31, .41, .51, .61, .71, .81, .91, .02, .12 … Just flip the numbers of the real series around the decimal place (1.0->0.1 24.0->0.42 345.0->0.543 (completely random examples (assuming their are no patterns with these numbers that I don't know about))), Showing that all numbers between 0 and 1 that can be represented as decimals (including repeating numbers if numbers such as 1+10+100+1000... are real numbers) could be paired with a real number showing that they are equally as large as the real numbers (I am not a mathematician so I could be very wrong).

  • @raydencreed1524
    @raydencreed1524 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    For the proof that there are infinitely many primes, can’t we just notice that no prime on the finite list divides N, meaning that it must be a new prime number?

    • @nolategame6367
      @nolategame6367 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well yes, that's exactly that (though N is "largest prime" factorial + 1 - which leads to contradiction since it's thus not divisible by any primes)

  • @Micha1996
    @Micha1996 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the first "proof" you could also rather subtract b from both sides to get a = 0 for all a, rather than using a = b to get 2 = 1. (Though neither are accurate due to division by 0).

  • @tomass420
    @tomass420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    watching this video I remembered one interesting fact that pi can not be written as a/b (fraction), but pi is defined as circumference over diameter (C/d)

    • @Grizzly01
      @Grizzly01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Meaning that at least one of C or d will not be an integer.

    • @waynemartins9166
      @waynemartins9166 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@Grizzly01 perhaps you meant "at least one of C or d will not be a rational number"

    • @vinayegaddu2317
      @vinayegaddu2317 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Pi/1 lol

    • @logan9093
      @logan9093 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@waynemartins9166 well he's also right, you can't have both be an integer

    • @waynemartins9166
      @waynemartins9166 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@logan9093 Yes he is right. What I did is to give a stronger condition (that also includes his). This is because integers are also rational numbers. Though the condition I provided can be made better, perhaps.

  • @TrimutiusToo
    @TrimutiusToo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hidden? (a-b) = 0 just screamed me straight into face

  • @danielwilkowski5899
    @danielwilkowski5899 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:32 - cancel (a-b), is essentialy dividing by zero, since a=b

    • @danielwilkowski5899
      @danielwilkowski5899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Additionally, 2b=1b does have a solution, and it's b=0, since 2*0 is 1*0.

  • @mmbeybladeworld6277
    @mmbeybladeworld6277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love your videos they're so inspiring

    • @BriTheMathGuy
      @BriTheMathGuy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Glad you enjoy them! Have a great day!

  • @Anonymous4045
    @Anonymous4045 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The one about finding the sums of n natural numbers, another way to think about it is this:
    Say you had 1+2+3+4+5+6. 1+6, that is, the first and last term, add up to 7. 2+5, the second and second to last, also add up to 7. So do 3+4. So it can be reasoned that the total sum would be the sum of the first and last term times the total number of terms. But, since we use pairs (first + last, second + second to last, etc.) we need to divide by two. The formula can be written then as n(a(sub n) + a(sub1))/2. N is the number of terms, and 1 is the first term, so in this case, it is n(n+1)/2

    • @pbjandahighfive
      @pbjandahighfive 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The sum of the set of sequential positive integers from a -> b = (a + b) * [ (b - a + 1) / 2 ]

    • @Anonymous4045
      @Anonymous4045 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pbjandahighfive not sure why you would write it like that. Essentially what you have is the formula, but a as n(dub 1) and b as a(sub n), and then added some redundant parenthesis

    • @pbjandahighfive
      @pbjandahighfive 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Anonymous4045 There is nothing redundant about the parenthesis unless you intend to completely ignore the order of operations or do you mean the brackets? Also most people will likely have no idea what (sub n) means and I was just offering an alternative that is more readable.

    • @Anonymous4045
      @Anonymous4045 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pbjandahighfive yeah sorry, brackets. 5 * [(2+1)/2] and 5 * (2+1) / 2 are the same

    • @levinsonman
      @levinsonman ปีที่แล้ว

      n(n+1)/2

  • @jotobrosmusic3928
    @jotobrosmusic3928 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    before seeing anything else, we cannot go from
    (a+b)(a-b)=b(a-b)=>a+b=b
    because we will have to divide by a-b=a-a=0 which is an error
    edit: called it

  • @cesarjom
    @cesarjom ปีที่แล้ว

    Proof by contradiction is a classic argument used in mathematics, every beginner student should master its many patterns of application.

  • @wallace3199
    @wallace3199 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    a similar algebraic equation was shown to me by my classmates which they had probably seen in a reel. I got to prove it was wrong and found, as this video points out, like in the fourth line in the starting of this video, there is a multiplication by 0, as a=b and a-b=0, and it is not possible to cancel out zero. hence 2=1 or anything like that is theoretically incorrect.

  • @themolten8
    @themolten8 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how to 0=1:
    have the true statement x(0) = y(0), where x ≠ y
    complexify
    simplify
    remove 0 from both sides
    x = y, but x ≠ y
    3(2) + 4(2) = 14
    remove 2 from both sides, you are essentially dividing by 2
    3 + 4 = 7
    by removing 0 from both sides you are dividing by 0 which is why you get a contradiction

  • @wallaceOne5900
    @wallaceOne5900 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could I get help on ascertaining an expression which gives the number of possible ways,a positive integer,n,can be formed from combinations of numbers using +,-,×or ÷ which are members of a subset of positive integers of cardinality,r such that the restriction is r

  • @VietDuckProductions
    @VietDuckProductions ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man, this video made me realize there are probably *REALLY* sneaky ways to divide by zero I haven't caught onto yet.

  • @kaifscarbrow
    @kaifscarbrow 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A quick question about infinite primes, N-p1*p2*p3*...*pn must be divisible by pk, why? I don't understand

  • @duhmez
    @duhmez ปีที่แล้ว

    Makes me wonder. Besides divide by zero. Is there a logical flaw by asserting that a = b? If they are a and oughtn't they be different by definition? Does a=b always work out algebraicly as long as no divide by zero is done?

  • @argusvoidstar4177
    @argusvoidstar4177 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "But 2 doesn't divide 1"
    Me who doesn't know this stuff:
    *Laughs in decimals*

  • @marcusscience23
    @marcusscience23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I first saw something like this, it proved any number = 0. I got freaked out and couldn’t sleep and whole night worried about my very existence. The next day everything made sense.

  • @DeJay7
    @DeJay7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There is a nicer way to prove the existence of infinite primes.
    It's very similar, but it says that all the prime numbers (we assumed they are finite) must divide their product, so because N is their product + 1 they are 1 more than any one of their multiples, so no prime divides N. Since N is NOT PRIME (we assumed some prime was the largest prime), it is composite, but due to the fundamental theorem of arithmetic, every composite number can be written as a product of primes, but we just said no primes divide N. That's a contradiction, so our assumption that primes are finite is wrong => there are infinite primes

    • @waynemartins9166
      @waynemartins9166 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, what he showed is that N has now become a new prime and so the logic can keep on going forever and never ever hitting the true last prime.

    • @DeJay7
      @DeJay7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@waynemartins9166 No, N did not necessarily become a new prime. It could be a composite number divisible by primes greater that what we assumed to be the largest.

    • @waynemartins9166
      @waynemartins9166 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DeJay7 ok I get you, I wasn't clear enough, what I meant is that N is prime relative to "all primes listed" and so must either itself be a prime or imply N is a multiple of another higher prime(s) (not listed) where in both cases contradicts the first argument that all primes where listed

    • @DeJay7
      @DeJay7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@waynemartins9166 Okay I agree now
      And for your information, we call numbers that are 'prime relative to each other' as 'co-prime'

    • @waynemartins9166
      @waynemartins9166 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DeJay7 I can sense the rigour in you, so thorough, nothing left unchallenged, keep it up

  • @EkajArmstro
    @EkajArmstro 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I knew two other proofs for the first N natural numbers sum formula (induction, round robin matches) but not this one lol.

  • @frogcam1677
    @frogcam1677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You said that some infinities are bigger than others. You can always make a new number in the list of 0 to 1 by changing a number in every number in the list (which creates a new number). That is assuming your list of infinite numbers doesn't contain that number, therefore not infinite. In other words, by assuming that you can add a different number to a list of infinite numbers proves that your list wasn't infinite. You can do the same for the other list of numbers from 1 to infinity. Just add 1 to the last number in the list. The only difference between the 2 analogies is that the second one is more obvious that the list isn't infinite.

  • @markgraham2312
    @markgraham2312 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Action at 3:33 is invalid since
    1) It is not a standard algebraic rule, since one cannot divide by 0 on both sides of an equation.
    2) a - b = 0, if a = b.

  • @Nikioko
    @Nikioko ปีที่แล้ว

    2:31: This genius way was found by Carl Friedrich Gauß as a schoolboy, when the teacher asked him to sum up the numbers from 1 to 100, and he finished after just a few seconds.

  • @bjbell52
    @bjbell52 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Darn, I use to know all of this but it's been over 30 years since I took mathematics in college and since after college I because a systems analyst for a few big companies (I also have a degree in computer science), I had little chance to use for the mathematics I had learned.

  • @muriloporfirio7853
    @muriloporfirio7853 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    The first one has a second division by 0: 2b=b, means b=0, but you divided both sides by b.

    • @ilias-4252
      @ilias-4252 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yes for 2b=b we need b=0 but thats not a mistake...we could just assume that a and b are not 0 at the begining. Up to the point that he divides by a-b everything is correct, and after that point everything is also correct (by correct meaning that one step implies the next).

    • @vgtcross
      @vgtcross 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      All of the calculations before that work for a and b being equal to anything. At this point of the argument we have (incorrectly) proven that 2b = b for all numbers b. Since this works for all b, we can just suppose that b is not zero and divide by b, thus getting 2 = 1.

    • @DeJay7
      @DeJay7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That's actually not a division by 0, but b would equal to 0 if 2b was equal to b, but we got to that through a division by 0, a-b

    • @pacomesalmon8086
      @pacomesalmon8086 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      2b =b 2b-b = b-b b = 0 ; you can get b=0 without dividing.

  • @0x4849
    @0x4849 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please note the "proof" at 8:40 is not correct, since factoring out a number (i in this case) with infinite series is not a valid operation, it just happens to work out here.

  • @castonyoung7514
    @castonyoung7514 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:50 I've seen this "proof" done before, but can't you just do the same thing on the other side of the decimal point (i.e. the integers)? In either case, you are assuming that 10oo = oo (because base 10).

  • @hacker64xfn99
    @hacker64xfn99 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video ! I also studied almost all of them (except the one showing where euler's formula came from) at high school lol

  • @namantenguriya
    @namantenguriya 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Prime proof was stunning. 😲
    Nyc vid 🙂

  • @hussainfawzer
    @hussainfawzer ปีที่แล้ว

    the example shown here (3:17 ) to illustrate that there are more real number between 0 & 1 than the set of integers, is very obvious and I could understand that in my own way, but if someone asked me to explain that, I don't know whether I could do a justifiable job.
    Here I can not understand the explanation given by BRITHEMATHGUY.

  • @pwhnckexstflajizdryvombqug9042
    @pwhnckexstflajizdryvombqug9042 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    But if you just make a database that when you type a number into a box and press enter it puts it into a list as a new item, you can just start writing down all the numbers between 0 and 1 and since the list is infinitely long there will always be room to fit more numbers that someone comes up with. Even if you change the first digit of the first number, second of second and so on, you can just write that number into the box and put it in the list too. In fact since the list is infinite it is not possible to come up with a list of numbers that won't fit into it as there is definitionally nothing that can stop you adding a new entry into an infinite list.
    No infinity is truely larger than any other infinity because no infinity is small enough to be measured

  • @dudethebagman
    @dudethebagman ปีที่แล้ว

    In the first argument, there are actually 2 places where there is division by 0. The last step taking 2b=b and concluding 2=1 involves dividing by b on both sides. But if 2b=b, then b=0, and you can't divide by b. Although 2b=b is not implied by the original premise (since we fallaciously divided by zero already), 2b=b is a statement that is mathematically possible. But in the last step, we divide by zero again, and derive a statement that is mathematically impossible.

    • @dudethebagman
      @dudethebagman ปีที่แล้ว

      One time in high school I did something like this in class. We had a substitute teacher in a math class that day and I wanted to have a little fun with her. I had a feeling she knew less about the subject matter than some of her students did. So I went to the board to solve the problem, and I used valid deductions to establish that 3x=-5x. Then my final step was to conclude that 3=-5. I said, "Is that right?" She looked at it for a few seconds and said, "No." Then she called another student to the board to solve the next problem.

  • @chrisg3030
    @chrisg3030 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interpret writing the infinity sign ထ as starting an endless count, like you hit the ^ in the number bar when making an online payment but the mouse jams and it never stops. You go out for a beer or a week's vacation and when you come back it's still counting. Then you write down another to the right: ထ ထ (assuming you follow the left-to-right writing convention). That second infinity will of course be smaller because you started later, so ထ > ထ.

  • @unbelievable961
    @unbelievable961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sir , please can you recommend a book for whole geometry with there proofs...∞

  • @c9legendre
    @c9legendre 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    do a video about formula for perimeter of a ellipse.

  • @wiggles7976
    @wiggles7976 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another way to prove sqrt(2) is irrational: Write sqrt(2)=m/n for integers m and n, with n != 0. Thus, 2n^2=m^2 => 2n^2 - m^2 = 0. Two numbers a and b are congruent mod k if k divides their difference, i.e. k|(a-b), or equivalently kc = a - b for some c. Since k*0=0, we have 2n^2 = m^2 mod k for all suitable k. Pick k=5, and let's find a solution (henceforth, all numbers are in modular arithmetic). First let's write the squares mod 5 for convenience: 0,1,4,4,1. Now let's go through all possible cases, n=0,1,2,3, or 4. The first case is not possible.
    If n=1, then m^2 = 2, but 2 has no square root since we listed all the numbers that do have square roots. Hence n=1 isn't possible.
    If n=2, then m^2 = 2(2)(2)=8=3, and again, this is a number with no square root so there exists no m to be paired with n=2.
    If n=3, then m^2 = 2(3)(3)=18=3, and again no m exists to satisfy the equation.
    if n=4, then m^2 = 2(4)(4)=32 = 2, and no number exists that can be squared to give 2, so no we have no solution.
    In all 5 cases, there is no solution. Thus, no m and n exist to satisfy 2n^2 = m^2 mod 5. If there was a solution in the integers for 2n^2 = m^2, there would be a solution to 2n^2 = m^2 mod 5, thus by contrapositive, there is no solution in the integers for 2n^2 = m^2.
    I like this proof because it reduces the problem of finding the square root of 2 in the rationals (an infinite set of numbers that we could never exhaustively search) to the problem of finding the square root of 3 or 2 in the integers mod 5 (a finite set that we could exhaustively search).

  • @IAmMee1
    @IAmMee1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The tittle of the video would have been funnier if it was “You guys need to see this video at least twice”

  • @animesh8805
    @animesh8805 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In 4th line there was a case
    If (a-b)=0 then it satisfy the equation

  • @19Szabolcs91
    @19Szabolcs91 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There being more numbers between 0 and 1 than positive integers has a very intuitive explanation.
    For every integer number "n" you have 1/n that is between 0 and 1, and they are all different from each other. So there are at least as many numbers between 0 and 1 as integers...
    And clearly, there are much, much more stuff, for example literally everything between 1/2 and 1; 1/3 and 1/2, etc.

    • @edinaldoc1
      @edinaldoc1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh wow... That made it so much easier!
      Literally everytime i saw someone trying to prove this, they use the exact same method as the video, and it never really clicked to me because the way it was done in the video seems unintuitive and feels like a piece is missing.
      But your explanation immediately makes it clear!

  • @ThePiMan0903
    @ThePiMan0903 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video BriTheMathGuy!

  • @a21imanadhikary83
    @a21imanadhikary83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When you are cancelling, (a-b) from both sides, you should mention, that a≠b, but previously you mentioned, that a=b, so this is incorrect

  • @lolcat69
    @lolcat69 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The first one is the same that was shown in the Quantumfracture video "0=1"

  • @PhilosophicalNonsense-wy9gy
    @PhilosophicalNonsense-wy9gy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Both the natural number set of all numbers and the real number set of numbers between 0 and 1, can have an infinite expansion. The natural number set has infinite expansion on the left side of the decimal point, the real number set of no.s between 0 and 1 has infinite expansion on the right side of the decimal point. Thus, both these infinities are equal as long as you keep the real number set as the numbers between 0 and 1.
    To categorize the scales of different kinds of infinity, lets consider in how many different ways they are infinite. In natural no. set of all positive integers, two criterion are applicable.
    1. The value of the number can keep increasing endlessly
    2. The set has infinite expansion towards the left side
    Now lets compare to the second set:
    1. The value of the numbers can be of infinitely different values between 0 and 1
    2. It has infinite expansion towards the right side
    But when we consider the real no. set of all positive numbers, there comes 3rd criterion:
    3. Just like the 2 criterion are applicable between 0 and 1, so are they applicable for between any other numbers, thus infinity of those numbers follow those two criteria
    Thus, the N set has 2 criteria while the R set has 3 criteria, thus R set of all positive numbers is a bigger infinity.
    (Note that creating new numbers for R set of no.s between 0 and 1 also does work for the Natural no. set of all positive integers)

  • @tst_2023
    @tst_2023 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Congratulations Bri, you’ve successfully made Math addictive

  • @rockingamingwiththesahit2145
    @rockingamingwiththesahit2145 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:40 I remember doing this in HS.

  • @anon.9303
    @anon.9303 ปีที่แล้ว

    In that first one, you don't even have to see the division by zero to tell what's wrong because you *can't* divide both sides by b. If that is to be treated as an equation, the coefficient of the variable has to go along, just making it so that b=0.

  • @Fytrzaczek21
    @Fytrzaczek21 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:30 normal guy: "wtf"
    guy after set theory class: "yeah what's up with that"

  • @shashankraj277
    @shashankraj277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You are really doing a great job 👏 👍

  • @boomerzilean
    @boomerzilean 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    9:14 well hold on, if you knew what cos(π) and sin(π) all along, then you could have just computed e^iπ in the first place... knowing what cos(π) and sin(π) is, is by definition equivalent to knowing what e^iπ is.

  • @soumcaranormal6699
    @soumcaranormal6699 ปีที่แล้ว

    proving by contradiction is like going "Okay let's try things your way" just to show it doesn't work lol

  • @larsscheele9914
    @larsscheele9914 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Small nitpick about the Cantor argument: It is inherently assumed that if two numbers between 0 and 1 have different decimal representations (i.e. they do not agree on at least one figit) that they are not equal. This is not true in general as for example 0.09999999999... = 0.10000000...
    Luckily it can be shown that ending a number on all digits 9 is the only "non-unique" representation, so excluding these cases yields a valid argument.

    • @SimonClarkstone
      @SimonClarkstone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can also adjust differently: turn 1 into 2, and all other digits into 1.

    • @jordanrodrigues1279
      @jordanrodrigues1279 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cantor actually made a different proof first, the one with the nested intervals, but it's harder to turn that proof into a satisfying video.

    • @angelmendez-rivera351
      @angelmendez-rivera351 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Excluding those cases yields a valid argument because they form a proper subset of the set of all rational numbers is countable. This much has to be stated, though.

  • @CombustibleL3mon
    @CombustibleL3mon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One fascinating thing is there are more numbers between 0 and 1 than there are natural numbers 1,2,3,... despite the 'size' of (0, 1) on the number line being just 1, which is finite.

  • @HenryZhoupokemon
    @HenryZhoupokemon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here’s a better proof 1 = 2
    We can write x = 1 + 1 + …. + 1, with x # of 1’s.
    Then x^2 = x * (1+1+…+1) = x + x + … + x, or x plus itself x times.
    For example, 3^2 = 3 + 3 + 3; 4^2 = 4 + 4 + 4 + 4, etc.
    So now we have x^2 = x + x + … + x, and we can take the derivative of both sides
    f(x) = x^2 = x + x + … + x
    f’(x) = 2x = 1 + 1 + … + 1 = x
    Since we had x number of x’s, since taking the derivative is linear, we just add each individual derivative to get 1 x times, or x
    Thus, we have
    2x = x
    2 = 1
    And notice we didn’t divide by 0 since x was any number, not just 0 (for example we used 3 and 4 for examples for x)

  • @comedygamer8493
    @comedygamer8493 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:27 how does the fact that you can create within the infinite set of numbers between 1 and 0 a completely new number just by taking the nth digit of each nth number and changing it means that this infinite set is bigger than the infinite set of natural numbers? cant you do the same thing with natural numbers?

    • @patrikvajgel240
      @patrikvajgel240 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Suppose you assign a number between 0 and 1 to a natural number. After you do the method described in the video, you're left with more numbers between 0 and 1 than you have natural numbers

    • @comedygamer8493
      @comedygamer8493 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@patrikvajgel240 but why? I am not quite sure how

    • @mirkotorresani9615
      @mirkotorresani9615 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You want to prove that there isn't a bijection between all the real numbers, and all the natural numbers.
      We prove it by showing that any map from the natural numbers to the real numbers cannot be surjective.
      So let's take a map from the natural numbers to the real numbers, that maps the natural number i, to the real number n_i. As he shows, we can find a real numbers that isn't any of the n_i. So the map isn't surjective

    • @angelmendez-rivera351
      @angelmendez-rivera351 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@comedygamer8493 What exactly are you confused about? You seem to just be asking "but why" to everything without really thinking about the replies you are receiving. What exactly are you questioning? What is it that is making you ask "but why"?

  • @thatonedude-6819
    @thatonedude-6819 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:04 why can’t you do the changing digits with integers?

  • @colejw2007
    @colejw2007 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    when you do the e^iπ proof that it's -1, make sure you put your calculator on radian mode

  • @GalileanInvariance
    @GalileanInvariance 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:45 Should say 'That is, every composite number can be written as a [unique] *product* of primes.'

  • @unbelievable961
    @unbelievable961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sir , please can you recommend a book for whole geometry with there proofs...∞
    Also I like this video so please make its 2nd video

  • @xdlilmanhaider8407
    @xdlilmanhaider8407 ปีที่แล้ว

    U cannot divide bith sides by (a-b) because theoretically if they were equal, which in this case it is, it will be 0 which is impossible to divide by

  • @v1ru5official
    @v1ru5official ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i dont understand about the statement Pk must divide 1 is impossible, anyone can explain?

  • @thed4404
    @thed4404 ปีที่แล้ว

    in 3:07 I also come up with different solution (just trial and error) where it can also be 2(((n/2)^2)+(n/2))... only if add up to even tho lol like 1000, 988

  • @user1ejej
    @user1ejej 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wait if a = b then a-b should be zero right because we could write a-b as b-b because a equals b so we can’t cancel them from both the sides.

  • @rossholst5315
    @rossholst5315 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My problem with assuming that the natural numbers can be listed is that there is no unique way to list them sure you can list them 1,2,3,4 but you can have any unit of interval. Meaning maybe I am counting the number of millions in infinity or the numbers of 1/10’s in infinity.
    Basically we can always add zeros behind your number 1. And we can add any finite amount of zeros without ever getting your final number any closer to an infinity.
    For there to be more decimal numbers than natural numbers there would need to be more zero positions behind the decimal point than there are zeros in the infinity of the natural numbers.
    The reason we cannot list the decimal numbers is simply because we are trying to count back from infinity. But you have the exact same problem if you try to count back the natural numbers from infinity.
    With the natural numbers you can also always make a new number that is not in your list as well using the same diagonal trick.

  • @schrodingcheshirecat
    @schrodingcheshirecat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    in a funny way, if 1/0 = infinity and 0/0 = 1
    it sort of works out for 1 = 2.
    let 1 = 2 ,0/0 = 1, and 1/0 = infinity
    0 + 1 = 1 + 1 now divide both sides by zero
    0/0 + 1/0 = 1/0 + 1/0
    1 + infinity = infinity + infinity
    1 + infinity = infinity
    infinity + infinity = infinity
    and so, these 2 values are equal but with a consequence:
    if 1/0 = infinity, and 0/0 = 1, resulting in 1 = 2,
    then all other mathematical operations go haywire
    1 = 1+1 = 1+1 + 1+1 = 1+1 + 1+1 + 1+1 + 1+1 etc.

  • @charlesmaillho367
    @charlesmaillho367 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't think the idea that some infinities are bigger than other infinities holds true. Infinity is a concept, not a number or a number of numbers so applying an inequality to that concept is that same as dividing by zero. The amount of numbers that lie between 0 and 1 is the same as all the natural numbers counting from 0 on up. That amount of numbers is merely a concept called infinity that says we cannot get an actual number or amount. It's endless. So having an inequality that says one endless side is less than or greater than another endless side is kind of a mathematical paradox.

  • @Nightcrawler333
    @Nightcrawler333 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:37 can you please explain how you got (n+1) + (n+1)+.....+(n+1) from the previous step. You say "add it to itself" but my tiny brain can't figure out how this is done..

    • @professionaldumbass1953
      @professionaldumbass1953 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      im not very good at math but i think
      n = 3
      n+1 = 4
      S = 3+2+1
      2S= 3 2 1
      +3 +2 +1
      now each number has an addend that can be added to and produce a sum of n+1 and then the rest of the addend split among the numbers less than it so like this
      2S= 3 2 1
      +3-2 +2+1 +1+1
      ^ split among the rest of the addends
      2S= 3 2 1
      +1 +2 +1
      +1 +1
      2S= 4 2 1
      +3 +2

      2S= 4 2+2 1
      +3-2 +2
      ^now take 2 and add it to the number above to get 4
      2S= 4 4 1
      +1 +2
      2S= 4 4 1
      +1-1 +2+1
      ^give the rest of the addend (1) to the the last number
      2S= 4 4 1
      +3
      2S= 4 4 4
      n = 3
      n+1 = 4
      2S= (n+1)+(n+1)+(n+1)

  • @timecubed
    @timecubed 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the issue was that, though in fact a + b = b, and a does in fact equal b, it also means that a = b - b = 0, and since a = b, therefore b = 0.
    So saying that 2b = b is in fact correct but to cancel out the b's you'd have to do 0/0 which is indeterminate
    Edit: I was right in a different way, there were two divisions by zero and I just caught the second one

  • @CandidDate
    @CandidDate ปีที่แล้ว

    as soon as you square both sides, you introduce the possibility of sqrt(m^2/n^2) = -2. I've never seen an odd or even negative number