Agreed Alan, very suspect moves there. Why would the front leg step back only to then step forward??? Ignoring the fact that technically it's wrong (as part of the kata), from a bunkai perspective it's even worst as you've just weakened the punch. The purpose of that punch is to knock the opponent out, but at the very least, unbalance/ disrupt them.
The best bunkai I've ever watched; so well broken into parts that it's easy to understand. it doesnt't matter if it is another variant of Heian Godan (and there are some!), it is a great application and masterfully done
Each to their own I guess but I'm sorry from my perspective there are too many incorrect techniques in here which not only show an incorrect version of the kata (in my opinion) but make the bunkai weak and unrealistic.
Karate or better Okinawa Karate was designed for the street. Okinawa Karate fighters was fought against Samurai fighters and not trained for belts and throphies. Heian or Pinan kata has a complete self defense fighting system. Yes, If you jump like a kangarou, stand in hike te or perform only one attack to your opponent, than Karate is not for the street and yes you can learn self defence faster with other styles like Karate (Krav maga...), but if you have time and you can translete the Kata, than you can use Karate for the street.
Christian Kaminski finally someone that knows about it. I hate todays intepretation of kata. Many argue that it wasnt meant for street fighting, but in fact it was. Some even say itvwas developed to look good. Thanks mate gor your Statement. I guess you are also into kyusho jitsu? Correct me if Im mistaken
Completely agree how I see kata there would be a lot more ending up on the ground and not constantly oi tsuki jodan as the attack(but for example also being grabbed by the waist, over the arms, the neck the hands ect.) there are so many different outcomes for one technique that aren't being shown as people constantly see kata as karateka against karateka. Perfect stance vs perfect stance a predetermined fight instead of a random one.
thank you for your interpretation! it seems that many sensei here don'tfully understand the modesty and hubleness typical of a karateka. there is always something to learn, even from basic things.
There are arm trapping techniques that you guys have omitted. Karate is not simple punching and kicking but also a lot of arm trapping and joint breaking. Appreciate the effort however. Osu !
Notei várias críticas nos comentários. Achei um exagero. Quem está por dentro das últimas atualizações e discussões a respeito do Bunkai, sabe muito bem que há uma polêmica por conta da falta de padronização na execução dos movimentos. Muitos documentos históricos do estilo Shotokan foram perdidos durante incêndios em Okinawa, há realmente uma dificuldade em se comprovar como seria o próprio Heian Godan original, por exemplo. Assim sendo, o Kata executado no vídeo está sim fora dos conformes ensinados dentro da escola Shotokan, porém o Bunkai apresentado foi adaptado de acordo com a lógica dos golpes, estando sim bem formulado. Até hoje nunca encontrei um vídeo ou professor ensinando uma única movimentação possível dentro da categoria dos Heian, por exemplo. Existem vários estilos de Bunkai possíveis, tanto que muitos vídeos mostram somente "partes" do Kata, deixando outras a desejar e fora da execução original. A ação lenta do 3º kyodo utilizado atualmente, é algo que pela lógica não faz sentido, seria mais um "enfeite", por ser lento e suave. Concluindo, eu diria que é sim uma boa adaptação. Gostei do vídeo. Caso alguém conheça algum vídeo "melhor" com a associação "COMPLETA" dos movimentos, favor postar abaixo, tenho interesse em aprender.
This is a very strange take on heian godan, stances are odd and the direction of movement is off... Switching feet and double stepping just makes for an unstable stance.....
Saluto Yoi Hachiji-dachi Verso sinistra Kokutsu-dachi sinistro Uchi uke sinistro Sul posto Gyaku zuki destro rimanendo kokutsu-dachi Riunendo con il piede destro verso sinistra in Heisoku dachi kagi zuki sinitro Ruotando a 90° scendere in Kokutsu-dachi destro uchi-uke destro Sul posto Gyaku zuki sinistro rimanendo in kokutsu-dachi Riunendo con il piede sinistro verso destra in Heisoku dachi kagi zuki destro In avanti kokutsu dachi destro morote uke destro Avanzando juji uke gedan sinistro in Zenkutsu dachi Sul posto juji shuto uke jodan Sul posto tirare in leva la fianco destro ruotando le mani, tetsui uchi sinistro Avanzando Oi zuki destro Ruotando di 180° Mika zuki geri destro Gedan Barai in Kiba Dachi destro Ruotando il busto di 180°, ferma la posizione, Haisho uke sinistro Avanzando Mika zuki geri destro mawashi empi destro sulla mano sinistra in kiba dachi destro Ruotando ed avanzando kosa dachi destro uraken uke destro rinforzato Distendendo il braccio destro in ura tsuki ruotare di 180° la posizione in renoiji dachi sinistro Ruotando di 180° avanzare saltando e riatterare in kosa dachi basso juji uke (KIAI) Spostando il piede destro avanzare in zenkutsu dachi morote uke destro Ruotare in mawatte zenkutsu dachi sinistro gyaku nukite gedan destro parata tenagashi uke sinistra Spostando il piede anteriore passare in Kokutsu dachi Mangi Uke Riunire il piede sinistro in Heisoku dachi rivolti verso destra mantenendo ferme le braccia Ruotare sul posto di 180° mantenendo ferme le braccia Spostando il piede destro in Zenkutsu dachi colpire Gyaku nukite gedan sinistro tenagashiuke destro Spostare il piede anteriore, il destro, in Kokutsu dachi destro mangi uke destro Spostare il piede destro Hachiji-dachi Yoi (KIAI) Saluto Yasme
La vidéo est étrange. Dans un combat réel, personne n'attend dans la même position que le Kata. Les kata sont composés de mouvement exagérés pour travailler les chaînes musculaires. Un bankai doit retirer l'exagération. C'est donc paradoxal de garder cette exagération
Hej, Krzysiek co za traf, że wpadłem na twój kanał. Dobra robota, no i oczywiście zostawiłem suba. Super, że nadal trenujesz. Jak będziesz miał czas zajrzyj na mój kanał th-cam.com/channels/r3EeC1roSN2OtdaqWLjfyg.htmlvideos?view_as=subscriber Pozdrawiam Romek
Osu, but karate is a long way to learn. In my experiences, it's not recommended for someone (adults) who want's to "take the skills fast for defence of themself". But I know that boxing is simple way to learn fast by adults.
Certainly not the Shotokan Heian Godan I teach. Technically incorrect.
Alan Lewis a t'ai à un autre kaki km au nord kaki k kata
Agreed Alan, very suspect moves there. Why would the front leg step back only to then step forward??? Ignoring the fact that technically it's wrong (as part of the kata), from a bunkai perspective it's even worst as you've just weakened the punch. The purpose of that punch is to knock the opponent out, but at the very least, unbalance/ disrupt them.
You really dont now why front leg step back?
@@suremkarate Enlighten us then
He steps backwards and it looks way too rushed and fast in the wrong places
The best bunkai I've ever watched; so well broken into parts that it's easy to understand. it doesnt't matter if it is another variant of Heian Godan (and there are some!), it is a great application and masterfully done
kata good bunkai baaaaaaaad
Each to their own I guess but I'm sorry from my perspective there are too many incorrect techniques in here which not only show an incorrect version of the kata (in my opinion) but make the bunkai weak and unrealistic.
Karate or better Okinawa Karate was designed for the street. Okinawa Karate fighters was fought against Samurai fighters and not trained for belts and throphies. Heian or Pinan kata has a complete self defense fighting system. Yes, If you jump like a kangarou, stand in hike te or perform only one attack to your opponent, than Karate is not for the street and yes you can learn self defence faster with other styles like Karate (Krav maga...), but if you have time and you can translete the Kata, than you can use Karate for the street.
Christian Kaminski finally someone that knows about it. I hate todays intepretation of kata. Many argue that it wasnt meant for street fighting, but in fact it was. Some even say itvwas developed to look good. Thanks mate gor your Statement. I guess you are also into kyusho jitsu? Correct me if Im mistaken
Completely agree how I see kata there would be a lot more ending up on the ground and not constantly oi tsuki jodan as the attack(but for example also being grabbed by the waist, over the arms, the neck the hands ect.) there are so many different outcomes for one technique that aren't being shown as people constantly see kata as karateka against karateka. Perfect stance vs perfect stance a predetermined fight instead of a random one.
thank you for your interpretation! it seems that many sensei here don'tfully understand the modesty and hubleness typical of a karateka. there is always something to learn, even from basic things.
Disagreed. Not if the technique is being performed incorrectly. How can one learn if it's logically and biomechanically wrong???
Massimo Bortolamei
Adaptation over rigidity or dogma 👍🏼
There are arm trapping techniques that you guys have omitted. Karate is not simple punching and kicking but also a lot of arm trapping and joint breaking. Appreciate the effort however. Osu !
Maybe you learned it differently, but to me, there is way too many incorrect moves. Not the heian godan I learned
Dear Masters....this is basic form for yellow - green belts, not for street fighting.....oss
karate is not for street fights!!!
suremkarate osss
suremkarate para
A bit too Hollywood.
It's just the demonstration/examples that they showed. If it was real fighting, then it would be.... Finish the rest!
Notei várias críticas nos comentários. Achei um exagero. Quem está por dentro das últimas atualizações e discussões a respeito do Bunkai, sabe muito bem que há uma polêmica por conta da falta de padronização na execução dos movimentos. Muitos documentos históricos do estilo Shotokan foram perdidos durante incêndios em Okinawa, há realmente uma dificuldade em se comprovar como seria o próprio Heian Godan original, por exemplo. Assim sendo, o Kata executado no vídeo está sim fora dos conformes ensinados dentro da escola Shotokan, porém o Bunkai apresentado foi adaptado de acordo com a lógica dos golpes, estando sim bem formulado. Até hoje nunca encontrei um vídeo ou professor ensinando uma única movimentação possível dentro da categoria dos Heian, por exemplo. Existem vários estilos de Bunkai possíveis, tanto que muitos vídeos mostram somente "partes" do Kata, deixando outras a desejar e fora da execução original. A ação lenta do 3º kyodo utilizado atualmente, é algo que pela lógica não faz sentido, seria mais um "enfeite", por ser lento e suave. Concluindo, eu diria que é sim uma boa adaptação. Gostei do vídeo. Caso alguém conheça algum vídeo "melhor" com a associação "COMPLETA" dos movimentos, favor postar abaixo, tenho interesse em aprender.
I am not taking away the ability of the Karateka but not for me. Oss!
Alan Lewis ossss
I'm indonesian
Oss
heian godan good movments for wake up
Eu gostei muito dos katar as explicações passo a passo
What stylle and school are you from?
it is one of the smartest bunkai, I've ever seen for 30 years. It is not too complicated, nor too simplistic. Well done ...
lol
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This is a very strange take on heian godan, stances are odd and the direction of movement is off... Switching feet and double stepping just makes for an unstable stance.....
heian godan go, not the heian godan normal but he is good
Tbh not practical use of movments .... or a realistic attack .... not combative ..... sports karate interpretaion of application
Lol pp
Saluto
Yoi Hachiji-dachi
Verso sinistra Kokutsu-dachi sinistro Uchi uke sinistro
Sul posto Gyaku zuki destro rimanendo kokutsu-dachi
Riunendo con il piede destro verso sinistra in Heisoku dachi kagi zuki sinitro
Ruotando a 90° scendere in Kokutsu-dachi destro uchi-uke destro
Sul posto Gyaku zuki sinistro rimanendo in kokutsu-dachi
Riunendo con il piede sinistro verso destra in Heisoku dachi kagi zuki destro
In avanti kokutsu dachi destro morote uke destro
Avanzando juji uke gedan sinistro in Zenkutsu dachi
Sul posto juji shuto uke jodan
Sul posto tirare in leva la fianco destro ruotando le mani, tetsui uchi sinistro
Avanzando Oi zuki destro
Ruotando di 180° Mika zuki geri destro Gedan Barai in Kiba Dachi destro
Ruotando il busto di 180°, ferma la posizione, Haisho uke sinistro
Avanzando Mika zuki geri destro mawashi empi destro sulla mano sinistra in kiba dachi destro
Ruotando ed avanzando kosa dachi destro uraken uke destro rinforzato
Distendendo il braccio destro in ura tsuki ruotare di 180° la posizione in renoiji dachi sinistro
Ruotando di 180° avanzare saltando e riatterare in kosa dachi basso juji uke (KIAI)
Spostando il piede destro avanzare in zenkutsu dachi morote uke destro
Ruotare in mawatte zenkutsu dachi sinistro gyaku nukite gedan destro parata tenagashi uke sinistra
Spostando il piede anteriore passare in Kokutsu dachi Mangi Uke
Riunire il piede sinistro in Heisoku dachi rivolti verso destra mantenendo ferme le braccia
Ruotare sul posto di 180° mantenendo ferme le braccia
Spostando il piede destro in Zenkutsu dachi colpire Gyaku nukite gedan sinistro tenagashiuke destro
Spostare il piede anteriore, il destro, in Kokutsu dachi destro mangi uke destro
Spostare il piede destro Hachiji-dachi Yoi (KIAI)
Saluto
Yasme
3:02
muito bom
libera interpretazione? non conoscevo questa versione...
Ich mach a😊😊uch karte ich hab orange gürtel
Lol rlly nice
Lol nice!
Ma nn è shotokan
Eselente
Сельская самодеятельность
La vidéo est étrange. Dans un combat réel, personne n'attend dans la même position que le Kata. Les kata sont composés de mouvement exagérés pour travailler les chaînes musculaires. Un bankai doit retirer l'exagération. C'est donc paradoxal de garder cette exagération
Hu
Que maravilha, isso dá um ânimo muito grande pra treinar karatê OSS!
Suzucho karate?
Péssimo, o pulo ficou mal feito, tenta levantar mais o joelho
Acho que é de uma linhagem diferente, realmente esse kata tá estranho
解釈が違う
This is no bunkai. This bunkai is not good for the street.
is Karate for the street??? I prefer a Gunfire!!
Top awesome osss🙏
Love it so much
👏👏👏
Well done! :-)
good tecniques!! excellent form.
Hej, Krzysiek co za traf, że wpadłem na twój kanał. Dobra robota, no i oczywiście zostawiłem suba. Super, że nadal trenujesz. Jak będziesz miał czas zajrzyj na mój kanał th-cam.com/channels/r3EeC1roSN2OtdaqWLjfyg.htmlvideos?view_as=subscriber Pozdrawiam Romek
Osu, but karate is a long way to learn. In my experiences, it's not recommended for someone (adults) who want's to "take the skills fast for defence of themself". But I know that boxing is simple way to learn fast by adults.
péssimo
This is very good tehniqu