In a way its interesting. In Inquisition, Morrigan learned there was gods out there while Leiliana had to learn to rely more on faith in herself instead of hoping for the maker to have a plan.
Morrigan already knew there were "gods" out there in dao, such as old gods. She simply likely considered them just very powerful beings (Like Solas considers elven gods to be), I doubt that has changed. She thought that elven gods were myths and in a way they were as they were just an extremely powerful mages in pre-veil world.
to be fair tho they're not really Gods just super powerful (AND Huge egos *SOLAS* ) and were in a position where at the time the world didnt have a veil thus provided them with unlimited energy.
@@odd-eyes6363 There's no point in arguing with someone who's completely wrong and believes in fairy tales like a delusional person. Would waste your time and argue with a crazy person who believes that a Pokémon is a real animal and thinks they're a magical divine being protecting them? That's how ridiculous we see you.
Listening to the whole banter is so interesting. There are bits here, that I've never encountered before and these provide such surprising insight in character sometimes. And companions are all so childish and so wise at the same time it’s fascinating.
yoo this is amazing you do the dragon age fan base proud I haven't seen this much developed banter scenes since the wonder of thedas sfm videos from 2010 , this is perfection. 😀
These are so much better in cutscene context than in-game. As much as I love the banter, I always thought it weird they talk about the PC 4 feet behind them like they aren't even there. Especially these jealousy based conversations.
2:44 That was a really cool touch, thanks for making these! Giving them all that contextualised story building has really elevated the dialogue for me :D
9:31 “Should we say something, master Verathorn?” “Just stay out of it, son, if you know what’s good for you. And whatever you do, don’t make eye contact with either of them.”
@@xer_7438 When does she say that? I can't remember having more than the one conversation about Morrigan with Leliana in inquisition. Always found it such a wasted opportunity that they never had these characters interact again...
0:30 such a surefire way to pass the Bechdel test - have the two LIs bicker about religion! 6:45 and that's EXACTLY what she wears when they reunite a decade later! Leliana must be overjoyed.
Imagine some years in the future people inspired by you work make something similar to other games Or even Inquisition Your work is incredible, congrats
Kinda wish there were some conversations like that between Zevran and the other three. The man introduces himself by literally stabbing multiple party members in the back, gets spared by the warden against half of their advice and then steals their heart? That's gotta sting like nothing else.
I can see that when Morrigan went to "work" for Celene, she must had the same lines about dressing Morrigan up for her, in this case Morrigan most likely had no choice but to complaint, lol
These conversations are what make Inquisition so much more investing, seeing as how the story is very much about faith and challenges all even Morrigan and Lelianna’s.
What's funny is even though Leliana is more conservative in her religious beliefs than Morrigan, she's also at the same time more progressive when it comes to romantic relationships than Morrigan is.
Yup, nothing conservative or progressive here. Leliana: bisexual (or pansexual), had plenty of relevant experience due to her highly specialized past. Lots of it was either traumatic or inauthentic to begin with. Morrigan: straight, grew up in largely isolated environment with highly controlling parental figure. She had little if any prior romantic experience, and didn't even have an opportunity to make any friends.
Attributing sexuality to someone having a progressive mindset is bizarre. There are gay people who support Trump, and straight people who champion LGBTQ rights. Progressiveness is a matter of morality, and queer people do not have a monopoly on it.
I don’t think sexuality is looked down on in Thedas. Especially if it involves two women. We only know of a circle in tevinter that strictly looks down on a man receiving, especially if the man has no intention of procreating
No, they had such a good, contrasting dynamic until the love triangle bullshit. HOT TAKE: I think they are a top tier ship and belong together. The way they have grown in Inquistion I think would allow for them to meet in the middle. Leliana is definitely more jaded and Morrigan softened a bit from her child. They have been through a lot together whether they want to have that conversation or not. There is so much potential.
MORRIGAN , i just love her 🥰. She can turn anyone upside down don't try to fight her in words And LILIANA ( I've had enough) - Androste forgive me , morrigan you're a cruel cruel **** 😂😂 😂 Morrigan won't let her fell she can really have warden , he always belongs to morigan
I've watched these videos and I'm wondering when does these conversations occure, because I have not seen all of those even if I have played DA Origins many times through... 🤔 Do you need some expansions or other to get those conversations?
These cutscenes are fan made. The dialogues however happen randomly through normal gameplay, when approaching several trigger points, between two present party members.
Leliana is kind to Morrigan at least on a few occasions. Morrigan spews nothing but toxicity and reactivity. Leliana is no saint, but she also questions herself all the time about morality. Morrigan flaunts her selfishness everywhere and cannot care who she hurts. I love that my warden ended up with Leliana and became very good friends with Morrigan and watches Morrigan mature and out of the shadows of her upbringing.
If there’s one thing I don’t like about the way Morrigan is written it’s that her banter with the party never really softens. She’s a great character with a great arc, but it’s not reflected in her relationships with the rest of your group.
У Морриган посох из мода ? Почему на посохе фиолетовое свечение ? Если так, подскажите, пожалуйста, название мода... Я бы хотела себе такой поставить...
I used to sympathize more with Leliana's statements years ago when I played this. Now I sympathize more with Morrigan's feelings here. For the religious questions that is.
I mean, to be fair, Leliana at least has reasons for clinging to her religious sentiments, as they were the one thing keeping her afloat after Marjolaine betrayed her. Morrigan grew up expecting such things like betrayal, exploitation, and such from everyone, knowing it was expected of her as well. Yet even amidst Morrigan's rational arguments, Leliana still successfully calls out how deep down, Morrigan is a sad, lonely girl longing for love, even if she doesn't understand what it looks or feels like.
@@Spiralpaladin Yes, people do not come to religion from rational arguments, and likely do not leave it based on them, not purely. It's relevant to Morrigan's character arc ofc. She is sad, but I was more saying I agree with the rational arguments, not that Morrigan is a stable or happy person.
The only thing I didn't like about Leliana in any of the dragon age games was her conversations with Morrigan about faith It's uncomfortably close to real religious people. I still love her though.
Not really, I think at some point they just ask you choose. You can even choose neither as well. Zevran though I think has one scene where Leliana joins you two.
@@anelbegic2780That bit with Leliana and Zevran also includes Isabella. It happens at the Pearl, though I believe Leliana has to be hardened for it to trigger.
This some mods or what? I don’t ever see them bantering like this in 1 on 1 conversations let alone in these locations. Huh makes me wanna play with mods. Probably be like a whole new game. Well duh if I’m seeing this
my god after hearing veliguards acting and squad dilemma or lack there of this game from 2009 does it waaaaay better man bioware you really lost your talent
In a way its interesting. In Inquisition, Morrigan learned there was gods out there while Leiliana had to learn to rely more on faith in herself instead of hoping for the maker to have a plan.
Dutch Van der Linde would be proud of Leliana
Morrigan already knew there were "gods" out there in dao, such as old gods. She simply likely considered them just very powerful beings (Like Solas considers elven gods to be), I doubt that has changed. She thought that elven gods were myths and in a way they were as they were just an extremely powerful mages in pre-veil world.
to be fair tho they're not really Gods just super powerful (AND Huge egos *SOLAS* ) and were in a position where at the time the world didnt have a veil thus provided them with unlimited energy.
@@fatty1040 Reminds "Divinity 2:The original sin" in that regard.
Character arcs
"...but you, Morrigan, are a bitch." There is something about Leliana's sweet, innocent-sounding accent that makes that hilarious.
The pointing makes it funnier 🤣
"Dear maker please save me from these crazy bitches"
Hero of Ferelden "probably"
Speak for your self! I love Morrigan and Leliana. Love the crazy witches, and crazy assassin sisters! ;) ( hero of ferelden, on my play through)
Also the HoF: These are MY crazy bitches!
*Mabaris. It's only appropriate for Dragon Age universe
@@TiredTransbian MC: save me from the crazy birches dear maker but these are also MY crazy bitches.
@@TiredTransbianong😭💯
To this day, I cannot help but stand in AWE of the comeback
"Talk is cheap, Morrigan!"
"And THIS from a Bard?"
Morrigan Mic-drop Moment!
Never really looked twice at that one. As it is not the job of a Bard, to speak. They enchant with movement, appearance, and song.
The usual Bard relies more on their actions and appearance, like most Orlesians.
Morrigan won most of these 😂
Every talk between a religious person with an atheist in a nutshell.
No kidding.
And the athiest always winning.
@@SlitWristMisfit_ winning? Morrigan rage quits the discussion at least twice.
@@SlitWristMisfit_ Redditor.
@@odd-eyes6363 There's no point in arguing with someone who's completely wrong and believes in fairy tales like a delusional person. Would waste your time and argue with a crazy person who believes that a Pokémon is a real animal and thinks they're a magical divine being protecting them? That's how ridiculous we see you.
I love how Morrigan is wearing the dress that Leiliana suggested in inquisition
Bro, I was just thinking about that. I was playing the game and saw this video, and then I went holy s*** She actually did it.
@@randomguy8415 It was Kieran who actually dressed her lol
9:31 "These Shemlen are crazy"
"Best keep your nose out of it my apprentice"
I laughed so much in this part 😂
9:31 Verathorn and his apprentice looking at each other made me laugh
Shemlen, am I right…? 🤷♂️
Listening to the whole banter is so interesting. There are bits here, that I've never encountered before and these provide such surprising insight in character sometimes. And companions are all so childish and so wise at the same time it’s fascinating.
yoo this is amazing you do the dragon age fan base proud I haven't seen this much developed banter scenes since the wonder of thedas sfm videos from 2010 , this is perfection. 😀
Thank you so much!! Dragon Age is my absolute favorite game franchise, it makes me so happy to hear my work is appreciated by other fans :)
Morrigan and Leliana having a spat in front of those dalish elves always gets me
The two merchants staring at each other going with a look that says "say nothing, do nothing" was just perfect.
These are so much better in cutscene context than in-game. As much as I love the banter, I always thought it weird they talk about the PC 4 feet behind them like they aren't even there. Especially these jealousy based conversations.
2:44 That was a really cool touch, thanks for making these! Giving them all that contextualised story building has really elevated the dialogue for me :D
leliana getting all girly girl with Morrigan about that dress hehe
Aaw you made it into a cinematic. Well sodding done indeed!
Thank you! 😁
It's Super 👌
9:31 “Should we say something, master Verathorn?”
“Just stay out of it, son, if you know what’s good for you. And whatever you do, don’t make eye contact with either of them.”
Morrigan did follow Leliana advice in Inquisition
Yep :) I love that little easter egg
Actually, if Morrigan has Kerian, he's the one who picked the dress. And Leliana says, "Red Velvet, the boy has great tastes."
Aaa
@@xer_7438 She always picks that dress even if she has no child or never met Leliana in dao. So likely it was choice of her own preference.
@@xer_7438 When does she say that? I can't remember having more than the one conversation about Morrigan with Leliana in inquisition. Always found it such a wasted opportunity that they never had these characters interact again...
0:30 such a surefire way to pass the Bechdel test - have the two LIs bicker about religion!
6:45 and that's EXACTLY what she wears when they reunite a decade later! Leliana must be overjoyed.
Imagine some years in the future people inspired by you work make something similar to other games
Or even Inquisition
Your work is incredible, congrats
Played Da:O for the fantasy rpg, stayed for Morrigan. By far the best follower in any rpg.
the girls fighting over GW,then plot twist: he makes it offical with Zev
If Sten was an option. It would have been Sten.
Me watching this: "OH FIND A *ROOM* ALREADY!"
I sure the MC would enjoy the show xD
This game is so good. What you've done with these cutscenes is fascinating. Great work.
The absolute savagery between these two when fighting over the Warden is legendary.
Is that dress leliana describes not the one she wears in inquisition in orlais?
The amount of Leliana x Morrigan competition conversations. Wow!
Kinda wish there were some conversations like that between Zevran and the other three. The man introduces himself by literally stabbing multiple party members in the back, gets spared by the warden against half of their advice and then steals their heart? That's gotta sting like nothing else.
I can see that when Morrigan went to "work" for Celene, she must had the same lines about dressing Morrigan up for her, in this case Morrigan most likely had no choice but to complaint, lol
I like Morrigan 😊 I wish they had talked in this cinematic way in the game ❤
Weird how poeple like her. She's an evil snake tbh.
Indeed, masterfully done. Thank you, that was worth it.
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
The fact that they don't acknowledge each other AT ALL in inquisition even being in the same building for 1/3 of the game is absurd
Leliana talks about morrigan in wicked eyes and wicked hearts and also when she arrives in inquisition, saying she is softer
@@pedrohmorales1896 Yes, but in DAI they don't really interact with each other.
@@ArcaneTuber yeah, they do only once I think, when the inquisitor drinks from the well and morrigan gets mad so Leliana defends the inquisitor
Oh, I don't know. They both knew they dislike each other and obviously felt no need to discuss the good old days.
"Talk is cheap" "and this, from a bard?" 😄
Am I the only one who feels like morrigan is talking about her father when arguing about the maker ?
Yeah girly definitely has daddy issues.
I am pretty sure her father is dead at least that is what she believes judging by the way she talks about her Mother with Leliana.
@@yennefer440I’m sure both of them have stronger mommy issues
This is incredible work. Brings the world to life in a whole new way.
Brilliant work, thanks for having done it and shared it with us.
Lmao at Leliana’s “oh.” X)
These conversations are what make Inquisition so much more investing, seeing as how the story is very much about faith and challenges all even Morrigan and Lelianna’s.
What's funny is even though Leliana is more conservative in her religious beliefs than Morrigan, she's also at the same time more progressive when it comes to romantic relationships than Morrigan is.
preferences are neither conservative nor progressive, it simply is.
Yup, nothing conservative or progressive here.
Leliana: bisexual (or pansexual), had plenty of relevant experience due to her highly specialized past. Lots of it was either traumatic or inauthentic to begin with.
Morrigan: straight, grew up in largely isolated environment with highly controlling parental figure. She had little if any prior romantic experience, and didn't even have an opportunity to make any friends.
Morrigan has a more romantic side hidden under a more pragmatic visage. One she tends to suppress once she notice it leaking out
Attributing sexuality to someone having a progressive mindset is bizarre. There are gay people who support Trump, and straight people who champion LGBTQ rights. Progressiveness is a matter of morality, and queer people do not have a monopoly on it.
I don’t think sexuality is looked down on in Thedas. Especially if it involves two women. We only know of a circle in tevinter that strictly looks down on a man receiving, especially if the man has no intention of procreating
Too bad I cant erase my memory to replay this game in the first time.
the npcs glancing at 9:30 just killed me 😂😂😂
I really wish we'd seen Morrigan and Leliana actually interact during Inquisition.
Your warden is really damn cute, not gonna lie.
How in the name of Andraste's frilled knickers are these even made?
In Bioware's Dragon Age Toolset, it's a very powerful tool for modders.
@@Makilita Interesting...
@@Makilita 😯
Filled?? They had to be filled? Why.?? In the fuck!
man morrigan was rude in DA:O but holy crap i never heard the jealous side, she ripped poor lelianna wide open
It's interesting hearing Morrigan's final comments on love, knowing how she responds to Flemeth meeting Kieran.
The fighting over the Warden is hilarious, I never heard these, but it's awesome.
No, they had such a good, contrasting dynamic until the love triangle bullshit. HOT TAKE: I think they are a top tier ship and belong together. The way they have grown in Inquistion I think would allow for them to meet in the middle. Leliana is definitely more jaded and Morrigan softened a bit from her child. They have been through a lot together whether they want to have that conversation or not. There is so much potential.
I totally agree. I hate how much of their banter in DAO focuses on being catty.
Yeah! Like if he is playing with both of you and your feelings, maybe you two should let the archdemon eat his ass
Leliana kinda sounds like some Cajun dudes I've met and now I want her to say “come down and get some gumbo Cher”
These should be modded in-game!
MORRIGAN , i just love her 🥰. She can turn anyone upside down don't try to fight her in words
And LILIANA ( I've had enough) - Androste forgive me , morrigan you're a cruel cruel **** 😂😂 😂
Morrigan won't let her fell she can really have warden , he always belongs to morigan
They should make up and date each other.
Leliana is open for same sex relations, Morrigan is not
The fade is the void beyond the viel.
3:23 *totally destroyed*
9:31 hahahahaa
DAO: existential themes, existence of god, arguments between objective and subjective natural phenomena.
Veilguard: “I’m non binary”
😒
I've watched these videos and I'm wondering when does these conversations occure, because I have not seen all of those even if I have played DA Origins many times through... 🤔 Do you need some expansions or other to get those conversations?
These cutscenes are fan made. The dialogues however happen randomly through normal gameplay, when approaching several trigger points, between two present party members.
Girls girls please there is certainly enough me to go around
Listening to Leliana proselytising was always a little painful in this game. It smacked too close to how people do it in the real world.
Oof the bechdel test has failed spectacularly
What? How lol
Что за руны на посохе Морриган ? Это мод ? Подскажите, пожалуйста, название мода...
Leliana is kind to Morrigan at least on a few occasions. Morrigan spews nothing but toxicity and reactivity. Leliana is no saint, but she also questions herself all the time about morality. Morrigan flaunts her selfishness everywhere and cannot care who she hurts. I love that my warden ended up with Leliana and became very good friends with Morrigan and watches Morrigan mature and out of the shadows of her upbringing.
If there’s one thing I don’t like about the way Morrigan is written it’s that her banter with the party never really softens. She’s a great character with a great arc, but it’s not reflected in her relationships with the rest of your group.
How can i get my followers to have a banter in a cutscene?
This is a mod
У Морриган посох из мода ? Почему на посохе фиолетовое свечение ? Если так, подскажите, пожалуйста, название мода... Я бы хотела себе такой поставить...
3:20 yep Flemmeth really is her mother.Inquisition was ok
Leliana "Oh baby girl you should have taken better care of your stuff."
Strange how I’ve never heard these banters you’ve been posting in your videos did I do something wrong?
DAO Morrigan: I'm atheist and will live alone in freedom and nothing will change my mind.
DAI: sike
Ive never had the beef over the warden do u have to max both there relationship stats
Why i didnt have these scene,only on the walk
These scenes have been modded by the TH-camr with the banter dialogue you get whilst exploring. They aren't in the game.
@@yennefer440 thanks
I used to sympathize more with Leliana's statements years ago when I played this. Now I sympathize more with Morrigan's feelings here. For the religious questions that is.
I mean, to be fair, Leliana at least has reasons for clinging to her religious sentiments, as they were the one thing keeping her afloat after Marjolaine betrayed her. Morrigan grew up expecting such things like betrayal, exploitation, and such from everyone, knowing it was expected of her as well. Yet even amidst Morrigan's rational arguments, Leliana still successfully calls out how deep down, Morrigan is a sad, lonely girl longing for love, even if she doesn't understand what it looks or feels like.
@@Spiralpaladin Yes, people do not come to religion from rational arguments, and likely do not leave it based on them, not purely. It's relevant to Morrigan's character arc ofc. She is sad, but I was more saying I agree with the rational arguments, not that Morrigan is a stable or happy person.
The only thing I didn't like about Leliana in any of the dragon age games was her conversations with Morrigan about faith It's uncomfortably close to real religious people.
I still love her though.
That's the point. To show that atheists aren't necessarily evil bastards and that religious people aren't all foolish zealots
@@odd-eyes6363 Exactly.
@@odd-eyes6363 Morrigan IS an evil bastard, at least in Orgins
Jokes on them, i choose no sides on this battlefield
It crushes me they didnt interact at all in Orlais or in Skyhold.
what mod is that morrigan outfit?
www.nexusmods.com/dragonage/mods/1902
Damnnn Morri
so turns out morrigan was right lol.
In Origins is it possible to have a sexual relationship with both Morrigan & Leliana without either getting angry and breaking up?
Not really, I think at some point they just ask you choose. You can even choose neither as well.
Zevran though I think has one scene where Leliana joins you two.
@@anelbegic2780That bit with Leliana and Zevran also includes Isabella. It happens at the Pearl, though I believe Leliana has to be hardened for it to trigger.
This some mods or what? I don’t ever see them bantering like this in 1 on 1 conversations let alone in these locations. Huh makes me wanna play with mods. Probably be like a whole new game. Well duh if I’m seeing this
my god after hearing veliguards acting and squad dilemma or lack there of this game from 2009 does it waaaaay better man bioware you really lost your talent
Shame leliana never showed her feminine side in DA:I.
She's far more cold but if you romanced her in Origins she shows another side. She loves the warden very deeply.
That Leliana's haircut is awesome, but her vanilla face is dull
Morrigan has so harsh, unpleasant voice, it makes her look like 45 yo or something.
any romance choice other than morrigan is wrong
True
Both Zevran and Morrigan every time.
@Ethan Schultz it's a tale as old as time in (classic) bioware games, you have it in mass effect and you have it in DA origins.
any romance (except Morrgan's) is right, Friendship with morrigan is the better outcome
@@channel45853 for you to say that means you have not played Dragon Age Inquisition , goth mommy finally admit her love and it was all worth it
Leiliana is insufferable here.
I feel that way about Morrigan.
Morrigan is just insufferable everywhere so it makes a nice change of pace.
I mean, Morrigan is insufferable in a separate way. Leliana's Jesus crap is abysmal.
@@RetroMetroism
Jesus!?😂
Morrigan is trully, a toxic, despucable peraon. I am glad to have removed her from my party asap on my second playthrough.
Wrong.
Yeah she's all of that but like Leliana said. She did get her comeuppance in the end.
But boy is it worth it
How do I get these cutscenes?