I made a mistake in the summary saying that 4/3/1 was more freeform and afterwards said 4/2/2. 4/2/2 is the more versatile playstyle one! There is the minor quirk of entering the Deathlord mode at a bad time and it's probably the only downside to this build. If you don't fix it, it can screw up your baseline rotation for the rest of the fight, but it's not hard to fix it, so really if you're keen on this build don't let that scare you off. The main takeaway is not to use Lethal Spinning right before you enter Deathlord mode. You need that skill to be off cooldown within a few seconds of entering Deathlord so that you can cast it twice. If you enter Deathlord and you had just used it a moment ago you'll only be able to cast it once and that skill is a fairly big chunk of your damage while in your identity. As long as you're aware of that, you have some freedom of how to adjust your rotation. The 4/3/1 rotation is a 120 identity meter generating rotation which gives you approximately 20 seconds to enter Deathlord from the time that you use your first spender before needing to make some adaptations. Again, it sounds trickier than it actually is. Overall she's a relatively easy class to play. I have my own personal reservations as far as enjoyment goes, but there's no denying she's very powerful and is pretty close to high tier backattack classes in damage without being a positional class herself.
Thanks, I was hoping you will manage to upload this video. I would love to see such an excellent take on the spec version as well, because for once I'm actually leaning away from swift version but I understand you prefer to talk about things you actually understand really well.
Thank you for the video, Saint. I tend to gravitate towards classes that can constantly attack, so Nights Edge will be for me. I do enjoy hitting big numbers, but spec classes feel like they are running in two feet of mud.
Not much. Some of the value of swiftness is lost due to Deathlord's innate CDR and how it interacts with swiftness CDR. Also the philosophy that more CDR isn't as useful if you can't cast off cooldown. Most people will either do full crit or 50/50 and I think that this decision should be made based off of using Adrenaline 1 or 3 and what's on your bracelet/elixirs, as well as if you're using Hallucination or Nightmare. It's not a great answer but they're close enough where you can do it off of preference/how the rest of your itemization looks.
hi saint thanks for the guide dumb question, maybe u answered this a lot too but other than full 10s CD gem, whats the comfort gem to play this class? i feel like lv 7 and 8 from the event still gave lot of downtime since we put the 8s on reaper & gullotine (i suppose)
Even with level 10 gems, there will typically be downtime before your second round of GS/RS that puts you into edge state. That's typically okay, since the only time that counts is the time between first to time until second round of those attacks. Besides cooldown gems, the only things that will reduce those cooldowns are more swiftness and C+J. After those two gems, I recommend Harvest/Vestige gems for increased comfort. Harvest is helpful for always getting in three in edge state. Vestige is useful for safety situations on identity gauge where you need to raw cast it for 10% identity meter.
Im really looking forward to Night edge souleater hopefully it brings back my motivation for lost ark, Also, I cant find any video footage on 4-2-2, did you not have any within this video? you mention it alot however theres no gaemplay for it from what I can see? Maybe im being blind though!
So is full crit viable CD-wise (skill spamming) with the super mokoko lvl 7 gems (and NM set i guess but since you regularly refill mana boundless doesnt matter i think?), or is 60/40 or 50/50 advised for spamming skills off cd over crit (and more white numbers)?
Dude can you help me i cant use my ULT Deathbringer. What can i do? it always say i need awakenin chaos shard.. I avail the supermokoko annd i choose night edge souleater
hai, thanks for another great guide is 413 viable with 60/40 halu adre 5? went trixion to try our rota with what express gave me and was pretty smooth, wondering if im loosing a lot dps or its fine?
Hello, your skill build loadout is independent from your stat/set loadout. You can mix and match them, though 413 will flow a little bit better with some extra swiftness if you don't have high level cooldown gems.
what stat distribution do you run on your 422 build, i saw the community guide recommends not going full crit if you dont go 431, is it a big deal if i run full crit on 422?
The other skills just work out better in terms of cooldown sync and the built-in stack for generating 40 identity instead of 30 (Vestige used once with crystals and once without).
Does it matter which gear you choose, hallucination or nightmare? Does it highly depend on which skill tree you are or can you go with either skill tree?
I don't think it really matters much. Hallucination is a really solid choice though if you have lower level cooldown gems since it lets you offset some stats to swiftness without sacrificing that much crit chance.
i see some tier list video, in this videos Night's Edge is S class, but Full Moon A class. Why? On loawa most of high GS players use Full Moon and only few people use Night's Edge.
503 uses an extra purple skill to increase the damage in the edge state. But in return, it has a much more strict identity meter generation compared to 413 which is much more practical due to Soul Drain providing so much.
Thanks for a great vid. I have a question about reversed stone (raid captain2) Is it stronger than standard 5+1 and how much weaker it is to adre 2? Thanks!
4-2-2 replaces Reaper's Scythe for Astaros. There's a lot of rune options for it, I used Overwhelm but Focus is another good option, as is Galewind. The build variation is in the Nexus community guide.
hey @Saintone I want to go for 431 but only aiming for level 8 gems in purple skills, do you think is worth it or just stick to 422? Thank you, love your videos and twitch!
Once I read your ign backwards I cannot unread it now xD Is that a rather unhappy coincidence or was it intentional? :O Anyway, thank you for nice guide, kind Sir.
She is playable with lvl 7 cdr gems & full crit build ? This is my only concern for her. Im not gonna put lvl 9 gems on her too quickly. I must say that im little scared of her rotation. Is she worst then Evo scouter or Wd FI ? In term off management the rotation?
It will work with level 7 gems, but the rotation will be a little tighter. You have 20 seconds to enter Deathlord mode after the first spender. Having higher level cooldown gems on the pink skill will just make it 1-2 seconds more lenient.
oh no worries I’ve just been scouring the internet trying to see if they’re available for the mages too since mages don’t/havent done up-do’s so I was curious lol thanks for the reply
Her defenses are probably closer to reaper compared to Deathblade and Shadowhunter. Assassin classes are in general lower on the defense coefficient vs others except maybe mages. Shadowhunter is the odd one out because she gets some minor healing during transformation.
I haven't tried it myself but the limitations of 2 pink skills in builds disrupts the flow of SE's gameplay in my personal opinion without significant gain since turquoise skills don't do much more damage than unempowered pink skills and taking more than four purple skills doesn't improve your identity skill cycling when in state. I'm sure it would work though.
Yes, the set choice and the skill loadout choice are individual from each other. You can play any set with any skill variation, but your stat distribution will be impacted by your set.
Make it more clear.Its igniter Sorc + Striker with elemental orbs. Z resets Damaging skill and give buff as Sorc. And this explay all what player need to know and image how game play be in all terms(sorc with delayed damage skills with same high stagger and destraction +Striker nature in combat and movement in skills). Full moon about be more igniter sorc, Dark moon be like clasical mixed stats striker. If you like striker or sorc=>Take Soul eater to your roster
I have to watch 2 minutes of a crappy mobile game ads just to see this video? And I cant even change the ads nor skip it the 2nd time. XD Thats crazy... 2 fucking minutes.
I made a mistake in the summary saying that 4/3/1 was more freeform and afterwards said 4/2/2. 4/2/2 is the more versatile playstyle one!
There is the minor quirk of entering the Deathlord mode at a bad time and it's probably the only downside to this build. If you don't fix it, it can screw up your baseline rotation for the rest of the fight, but it's not hard to fix it, so really if you're keen on this build don't let that scare you off. The main takeaway is not to use Lethal Spinning right before you enter Deathlord mode. You need that skill to be off cooldown within a few seconds of entering Deathlord so that you can cast it twice. If you enter Deathlord and you had just used it a moment ago you'll only be able to cast it once and that skill is a fairly big chunk of your damage while in your identity.
As long as you're aware of that, you have some freedom of how to adjust your rotation. The 4/3/1 rotation is a 120 identity meter generating rotation which gives you approximately 20 seconds to enter Deathlord from the time that you use your first spender before needing to make some adaptations. Again, it sounds trickier than it actually is.
Overall she's a relatively easy class to play. I have my own personal reservations as far as enjoyment goes, but there's no denying she's very powerful and is pretty close to high tier backattack classes in damage without being a positional class herself.
Can you tell me mr saint is this vlass playable with express gems, 7 all and few 8
@@ismetgoren7158 Yes it will work, but the tail end of the rotation to enter Deathlord identity will be a little tight.
Why not spec night edge ?
@@Psyzenn Pardon? Specialization doesn't do much for this engraving.
@@Saintone Sorry. I mixed the builds.
I love and missed watching guides of saint so much. They are so clear and easy to understand while having so much information in it. Such a huge value
Good Video, Sir
Thank you very much for the great video and all the info for the class.
I am thinking of playing her crit build as a top 6 in my roster.
not playing anymore for a long time now but still enjoying watching your video
Thanks, I was hoping you will manage to upload this video.
I would love to see such an excellent take on the spec version as well, because for once I'm actually leaning away from swift version but I understand you prefer to talk about things you actually understand really well.
Unfortunately when a new class comes out I usually only go in-depth on one of the two builds. Zeals uploaded a solid video on the other spec though.
Thank you for the video, Saint. I tend to gravitate towards classes that can constantly attack, so Nights Edge will be for me. I do enjoy hitting big numbers, but spec classes feel like they are running in two feet of mud.
the spec build literally runs raid captain wym.
As always appreciate the guide and effort sir Saint ❤️
Awesome video, I think you sold me on this class.
Is there a large dps difference between full crit, crit/swift hybrid/ and the full swift variants?
i mean she's already a spammy character, idk why some people build high swift on her
Not much. Some of the value of swiftness is lost due to Deathlord's innate CDR and how it interacts with swiftness CDR. Also the philosophy that more CDR isn't as useful if you can't cast off cooldown. Most people will either do full crit or 50/50 and I think that this decision should be made based off of using Adrenaline 1 or 3 and what's on your bracelet/elixirs, as well as if you're using Hallucination or Nightmare. It's not a great answer but they're close enough where you can do it off of preference/how the rest of your itemization looks.
hi saint thanks for the guide
dumb question, maybe u answered this a lot too
but other than full 10s CD gem, whats the comfort gem to play this class?
i feel like lv 7 and 8 from the event still gave lot of downtime since we put the 8s on reaper & gullotine (i suppose)
Even with level 10 gems, there will typically be downtime before your second round of GS/RS that puts you into edge state. That's typically okay, since the only time that counts is the time between first to time until second round of those attacks.
Besides cooldown gems, the only things that will reduce those cooldowns are more swiftness and C+J.
After those two gems, I recommend Harvest/Vestige gems for increased comfort. Harvest is helpful for always getting in three in edge state. Vestige is useful for safety situations on identity gauge where you need to raw cast it for 10% identity meter.
@@Saintone thanks a lot mister saint! appreciate it!
Finally, someone is calling the skill colors by proper names and not saying blue and purple for the turquoise and pink.
Those are the same people that call red or magenta instead of purple in brel G3
hes not xd
Hello! Thank you a lot!!!! Can you show your Chaos Dungeon build?
Im really looking forward to Night edge souleater hopefully it brings back my motivation for lost ark,
Also, I cant find any video footage on 4-2-2, did you not have any within this video? you mention it alot however theres no gaemplay for it from what I can see?
Maybe im being blind though!
Not on my TH-cam, but there's still several VODs of me playing 4/2/2 before I changed my build to 4/3/1 last week.
Thanks for the great Vid on the Class, will probably switch from Igniter, sadly getting frustrated :c
Stay strong. Eventually Sorceress will have their day.
@@SaintoneIt seems that day has come.
Is there a text document anywhere? for 422 with actual tripods?
So is full crit viable CD-wise (skill spamming) with the super mokoko lvl 7 gems (and NM set i guess but since you regularly refill mana boundless doesnt matter i think?), or is 60/40 or 50/50 advised for spamming skills off cd over crit (and more white numbers)?
It will work! It may be a little tight though.
Dude can you help me i cant use my ULT Deathbringer. What can i do? it always say i need awakenin chaos shard.. I avail the supermokoko annd i choose night edge souleater
hai, thanks for another great guide
is 413 viable with 60/40 halu adre 5?
went trixion to try our rota with what express gave me and was pretty smooth, wondering if im loosing a lot dps or its fine?
Hello, your skill build loadout is independent from your stat/set loadout. You can mix and match them, though 413 will flow a little bit better with some extra swiftness if you don't have high level cooldown gems.
@@Saintone thanks, will keep more swift for now :)
I got a question till when is the character selection on the pass can't see my pc broke waitting on parts
what stat distribution do you run on your 422 build, i saw the community guide recommends not going full crit if you dont go 431, is it a big deal if i run full crit on 422?
422 I was playing split stat build but your stat distribution is independent of your skill loadout.
Hey Saint, just wondering why does both build don't use the other pink skill(The one where you spin then explode)? Is it really bad?
The other skills just work out better in terms of cooldown sync and the built-in stack for generating 40 identity instead of 30 (Vestige used once with crystals and once without).
Does it matter which gear you choose, hallucination or nightmare? Does it highly depend on which skill tree you are or can you go with either skill tree?
I don't think it really matters much. Hallucination is a really solid choice though if you have lower level cooldown gems since it lets you offset some stats to swiftness without sacrificing that much crit chance.
Can you use MI with a 50/50 crit/swift? Will the extra Swift nullify the atk spd reduction from MI?
You can do it. It won't fully nullify the attack speed penalty.
GOOD VIDEO YEP, MY DIRECTOR SAINTONE
i see some tier list video, in this videos Night's Edge is S class, but Full Moon A class. Why? On loawa most of high GS players use Full Moon and only few people use Night's Edge.
Hi sir
I have question
413 better than 503 ?
or
What is the difference between 503 and 413?
I'm expecting an answer from you.
503 uses an extra purple skill to increase the damage in the edge state. But in return, it has a much more strict identity meter generation compared to 413 which is much more practical due to Soul Drain providing so much.
@@SaintoneI appreciate the information and advice you have shared.
Thanks for a great vid.
I have a question about reversed stone (raid captain2)
Is it stronger than standard 5+1 and how much weaker it is to adre 2?
Thanks!
I think this is fine. The damage difference is negligible as long as you use Adrenaline 3 as a core engraving.
@@Saintone thanks for replying so quickly! Im relieved that my luck didnt go to waste.
And I can use this in the spec build as well right?
Thank you saintone
Hi Saintone! I just wanted to ask if its ok still going adren 1 in 5x3+1 without the crit chance elixer with this build?
You can do it but you may feel like your crit chance is a little low. But it should be fine.
wait what skill do you replace for asteros for the 4-2-2 build and what rune would go with it?
4-2-2 replaces Reaper's Scythe for Astaros. There's a lot of rune options for it, I used Overwhelm but Focus is another good option, as is Galewind. The build variation is in the Nexus community guide.
what my +1 if i go adrenaline 3?
cursed doll 1?
raid captain 1?
or ether predator 1
Ether Predator.
hey @Saintone I want to go for 431 but only aiming for level 8 gems in purple skills, do you think is worth it or just stick to 422? Thank you, love your videos and twitch!
That would work. 413 and 422 is preference, but both will work with level 8 in purple.
@@Saintone thank you sir, have a good day
I wanna know what outfit is?! I hope it isn’t reaper exclusive because I’d love it on my bard.
It is Assassin exclusive, sorry. :(
Useful video Sainty-poo.
so whats the stats distribution for full moon and how easy is the rotation? no stress?
Low stress, pretty easy rotation. Stat distribution is preference but you'll build set and possibly engravings around it.
Once I read your ign backwards I cannot unread it now xD Is that a rather unhappy coincidence or was it intentional? :O Anyway, thank you for nice guide, kind Sir.
Izanami is a japanese name and in his case, it's a character from the anime Spy x Family. His character's appearance / skins also resemble the anime
Pheww.. i guess :D thanks ;-) @@MikaOnline
Hey Saint, will you be making one for Full Moon engraving or not?
I won't be, sorry. Zeals put out a video on that engraving though.
She is playable with lvl 7 cdr gems & full crit build ? This is my only concern for her. Im not gonna put lvl 9 gems on her too quickly.
I must say that im little scared of her rotation. Is she worst then Evo scouter or Wd FI ? In term off management the rotation?
It will work with level 7 gems, but the rotation will be a little tighter. You have 20 seconds to enter Deathlord mode after the first spender. Having higher level cooldown gems on the pink skill will just make it 1-2 seconds more lenient.
can you show us the new hairstyles :(
We don't have them yet! At the time of recording this video.
oh no worries I’ve just been scouring the internet trying to see if they’re available for the mages too since mages don’t/havent done up-do’s so I was curious lol thanks for the reply
Can you share chaos build bro? tks
I noticed i was dying a lot during raids, does she takes more dmg than other classes ?
Her defenses are probably closer to reaper compared to Deathblade and Shadowhunter. Assassin classes are in general lower on the defense coefficient vs others except maybe mages. Shadowhunter is the odd one out because she gets some minor healing during transformation.
As you get better at her and how her skills move her, you'll get better at positioning while attacking and be able to avoid more incoming hits.
why not go mass increase if it is swift build?
It's an option. You will feel the attack speed penalty but you can do that if you're fine with that.
being an assassin, is she on the lower side of tankiness ? or she is a bit tankier for some reason ?
Bit tankier
Medium tankiness.
Choosing between pre dater and soul reaper aiii
is 512 build worth looking into ?
I haven't tried it myself but the limitations of 2 pink skills in builds disrupts the flow of SE's gameplay in my personal opinion without significant gain since turquoise skills don't do much more damage than unempowered pink skills and taking more than four purple skills doesn't improve your identity skill cycling when in state.
I'm sure it would work though.
Thanks for the info@@Saintone
Just gimme the man, which holds double dagger at the Intro, as a male assassin.
can u also use 413 with astaros
I've seen it done before but it seems a bit janky to me. It can work though, and I think the Nexus community guide covers that specific loadout.
I hate how it all just seems like reskinned animations from the other assassins. Players deserve better. Great vid either way
before elixirs what is the optimal 5x3+1? which engraving is the +1?
Ether Predator I guess.
Neff brelshaza pls. As a new player, I‘m 1490 and unable to find any team to do brelshaza.
You can do it! Find other people in the same boat.
is full crit and 422 a thing?
Yes, the set choice and the skill loadout choice are individual from each other. You can play any set with any skill variation, but your stat distribution will be impacted by your set.
thanks!@@Saintone
I honestly rather wait til next powerpass to make this class since i rather not deal with an entrie server of soul eater
Make it more clear.Its igniter Sorc + Striker with elemental orbs. Z resets Damaging skill and give buff as Sorc. And this explay all what player need to know and image how game play be in all terms(sorc with delayed damage skills with same high stagger and destraction +Striker nature in combat and movement in skills). Full moon about be more igniter sorc, Dark moon be like clasical mixed stats striker.
If you like striker or sorc=>Take Soul eater to your roster
This is not a video for Full Moon, sorry.
If the letters on your keyboard are in English, why the hell would you ever have the language on screen in an asian variant?
balls for traction
Nice so she's basically controller friendly
Any 503 enjoyers?
Sadly this is a dead game on NA ;/
I have to watch 2 minutes of a crappy mobile game ads just to see this video? And I cant even change the ads nor skip it the 2nd time. XD Thats crazy... 2 fucking minutes.
Adblock it.
SE/Slayer> Aero lets goo bozos
Looks boring
Sadly a lot of people felt the same way in Korea. She ended up being less popular than other class releases despite being very strong.
@@Saintone she looks flashy, very cool animations, looks fun on paper but lacks substance imo :/ Good video as always you're the goat !
If this looks boring, then what looks fun to you?
@@nuxbot919 >Looks boring
>Looks flashy and cool animations
huh.jpg
@@Akreyie Gameplay is meh to me at best. You do you it's my opinion.
OMG so boring video man... just for the music. All info was greate, but music...
There's music in the video?