Postecoglou's fixture chaos, dazzling Dragusin and Rodrigo Bentancur's big mistake
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If Bentancur had been interviewed here in the UK and not in South America I have no doubt he would not have made that comment. The reporter asking the question should have been called out as well. If the subject had been Destiny there would have been absolute carnage in the media.
Sonny should not have to come out and try to mop up this deliberate mess.its unfair on him.
A few years ago, U20 World Cup was held in Korea. At that time, Valverde of Uruguayan national team did a "eye-tearing" goal ceremony to Korean fans at the stadium. They even took a picture of the whole team after the game, which most of players made "eye-tearing" gestures. Bentancur was also in the Uruguayan national team.
I strongly advise Bentancur not to come to Korea next month.
What would have happened if Sonny had told the same joke on Udogie or Bissouma in TV interview in Korea?
Was Bentancur doing the said gesture as well? Unless he was seen doing the same slanted eye gesture, it's a huge stretch trying to punish him for simply being in the same team as Valverde. Are all French NT players pedophiles because they played with Benzema?
I don't believe he did it with any malicious intent. Given the history of Uruguayan players, it is evident that they are unfortunately very ill educated on a such matter. He should be participating in the preseason tour and apologize.
The thing about Bentacur's comment is that it's now Sonny's problem to fix, even though he had nothing to do with it. As the person the comment was about and as team captain, it will be on him to smooth everything over, which really sucks, because it puts the onus and responsibility on him when he is not the one at fault. I like Bentacur and I don't think the comment was malicious, but it was massively massively disappointing, and he should certainly do more than an Insta story to make public amends.
Radu was class
I'm very disappointed in Rodri's comment. It is massively offensive and out of order. I am glad you've highlighted it Ali and Lee.
Yeah. While I understand such comment is normalized & acceptable in Uruguay vs the rest of the world,, that doesn't make it ok for fans in other parts of the country.
Hope he learns from it and never makes such a remark again. His performance on the pitch will be scrutinized more than ever by Korean fans and ridiculed for any bad day in the office moments.
You wouldnt really lose in midfield when both Dragusin and Romero and even Micky at times are happy to drive forward. it could be so dynamic, nobody would have a clue what we are doing. Man i hope this happens
Another fantastic and informative video from Gold and Wilmot
Lived in Japan for 20 years; we also look the same, have big noses and are outsiders/foreigners....there are comedy skits (Japnese version of black face)....despite this I found them welcoming and friendly.
The Archie Gray deal sounds like one we could do by loaning him back to Leeds for a year
To be fair, some cousins do look simular but thats just me reaching if thats what he meant.
As long as sonny osbt offended why should anyone else
not just Spurs all the teams in Europe have a lot a games
Thank you for commenting on Bentancur's comment. I feel like a lot of Spurs TH-camrs are avoiding it, and it made me a little bit angry, honestly.
Good on you, Ali 👍
We have to understand it and not be self-righteous, We can't be indignant because the Bentancur comments are ignorant not malicious. A symptom of cultural difference rather than any attempt to disparage.
Race is not something that can be joked about these days, and it was a stupid and ignorant thing to say by western liberal standards.
Hope Sonny doesn't get lumbered with cleaning up the mess and hope Benny grows up and says sorry to everyone.
Regarding Dragusin and celebrating defensive action, in basketball if you block a shot at the basket it is celebrated as if you had scored especially if you stuff the shot
I like the look of Jacub Moder from Poland/Brighton. He's a bit under the radar as well
Essentially
Was it a really bad comment? Yes
Was it ignorant and disappointing to hear? Yes
Was it funny? No
Is it racist? I don't think so, honestly.
Is it justified? No, as well.
And as a black African, I'd feel the same if he had said Southern Africans or Africans in that poor statement.
We cant win. Last season it was the lack of games that contributed to the inconsistent results, now its too many games and its chaos! Well we'll defo gonna need to rotate, so every player brought in needs to be of better quality!
no. Lack of games means less squad faitgue and more time on the training ground. If we had 2 games a week last season, we would be well below 5th, especially with the mini injury crisis even with 1 game a week.
Hi Alistair good podcast as always, I like to make a comment on what Bentancor and what he said, it wasn't right but I feel he was being sarcastic against the interviewer because he said he wanted a Sonny's shirt but if he couldn't get that anyone's even if was a relative of his so it could be anyone's because they all look alike I feel that was aimed at the interviewer not aimed at the South Koreans
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It’s not the first time Dele Alli was banned for 1 game and fined for mocking an Asian man and Covid comments. It’s not a good look but these players are employed for their footballing abilities and not for their media skills. I’m sure to Rodri he saw it as banter and maybe there is an element of that in the dressing room. The broadcasters should have taken the decision to not broadcast the interview. So it looks like a cultural thing. Casual racism is not called out enough. Our own press have recently been touting it. I suspect they will keep him off the tour with some sort of excuse. It remains to be seen if our media pursue it next season. Which would make them hypocrites but hey nothing new there.
My thiught may be different from that of the majority of people. I've lived in the UK since 2006 and I'm not that sensitive to so called racist remarks. I'm not inferior to anyone and I honestly thought all the white people looked the same😅😅😅. It's not racist... I wouldn't take it seriously.
We can’t a t shirt Lee!!!
Racial stereotyping is not ok but i dont think bentoncur's comment was meant w/ any real malicious intent, however it was still a very stupid & perhaps naive? Thing to say
A Korean here!! After watching all the videos made by Korean TH-camrs and news media about Bentacur's offensive comment, I can say, he isn't welcomed upcoming event in Korea and Tottenham better make this right before the event. Sonny isn't just a football player to Koreans, he represents the country. Bentacur's mindless ignorant comment shows what he truly think of Sonny and Asians in general.
Too much... I am Korean living abroad and I don't get offended by such comments. I'm not inferior to anyone and I feel the same when I see westerners. If I said it it wouldn't be a racist remark, but if a westerner said it it would be one. Not fair, isn't it?
Hope he is made to public apologise in Korea to Sonny and the Korean people racist comment simple as that
What Bentancur said wasn’t as heinous as you are making out.
I don't think you fully understand why it is serious racial discrimination. South Koreans or any other Asians are not the manufactured products. Each individual has their own unique characteristics and structure. I've read a lot of comments defending him saying like they also couldn't see the difference between Koreans etc.
It's just proving that they don't have good educational background or decent job unfortunately tho. There are more than half of students in top tier univ across the world are asian for sure. How could they even communicate with asian classmates and profs? You go check the asian% of LSE, AA school, Manchester, Oxford or whatever well known schools in big city.
@@DL-uc1fj It’s not that deep. And no one said anything offensive. Saying someone looks like someone else is not derogatory. Sonny is a handsome guy so by that logic all Koreans are handsome? What’s so offensive. It’s a dumb sweeping statement but literally holds no malice. People are so soft on the internet.
Différent cultures/social norms can take joke in different ways. And it is not what other races to decide whether it's racism to Asian or not. I personally reckon that any racial slurs or banters can be made between frds, but not on media. & some fans talk like they're entitled to take it as a joke on behalf of Asians making things worse tbh.
Why it's so offensive? Individual's unique characteristic and genetic diversity are completely dismissed. Again how human beings all look the same?
Did Rodri say Son and person (A) look the same? If he specified the person, of cuz it wouldn't have happened like that😅 i guess there's no more exchange needed cuz even after Gold's explanation people seemed not understand what's wrong with Rodri's statement. Just hope things get better. Cheers.
Not sure I would classify it as "heinous", nor have I heard anyone else call it that, but it certainly was bang out of order
How about everybody just chills out and stop getting offended by everything all of a god-damn time? And perhaps, as Morgan Freeman once said, stop translating everything into "rasism". This has gotten way out of control.
its not about being offended. The comment was ill-advised and inappropriate for public broadcast. The "they all look the same" comment dehumanizes the individual person as a caricature of their ethnicity. It is a very common rcial "joke" against asians to make fun of their ethnlclty, implying they all sound look and behave the same like robots with no individual characteristics. And to say that to describe your captain on public? Why make the joke? seriously. why make it? Its not original nor creative. Its a comment used to point fun at them. Can I make mnkey chants at vinijr and brush it up as a joke and that everyone should pipe down because everyone is a "snowflake" for being offended? Open your eyes.
@@Narodov1 I wonder, did any asian person never made a similar joke as if "every white person looks the same"? I am sure there has been PLENTY jokes like that. I am a "white person" and I can guarantee you that I would NOT be offended by that. Actually, I would share few laughs with person making this joke. Because to me this is all there is, A JOKE. A joke is ment to be/as a joke, nothing else. Share few laughs and I can promise you, a world will be a much better place. As opposed to getting offended every g-damn time by everything.
I'm not out to get Benta for this since he apologized and considering past incidents with other Uruguayan players it has to do more with the country's perception as a whole rather than Benta individually.
However, the remark does have racist connotation. If he said the same with Biss, Sarr, Royal, or Udogie, the outrage wouldve been worse. Hope he learns from it and doesn't make the same mistake.
Also, those kind of jokes might be acceptable in private, but not when you are on media.
Hahaha it's funny how come white dude decided and concluded that the statement like "asians all look the same" does not insult Asians! You white can make joke whatever you want, write something racial joke towards Black in the public and enjoy their reaction. Or go use your family as a source of "Joke" to entertain people around. Mum or sister etc who cares. Asians said they take Rodrigo's joke as racism, don't pulling out your white narrative here and accuse Asians being sensitive. I'm quite surprised that people like you reckon whatever comes out of your mouth can be joke, even though not everyone has the same exact standards regarding what is or is not offensive.
@@jasse803 a hypothetical: Ange does an interview and is asked about either Eze and Olise. He then replies they all look the same mate I don’t care. See a problem? It might be a joke as a teammate to teammate perspective, but he said it live on air using what is a common rac3lal “joke” to imply that all Asians look the same. Why make it on a broadcast? We know exactly what that joke implies. Don’t play dumb, it’s like seeing nothing wrong to the slant eye gesture or a mnkey chant. I am sure Son has had these raclial abuses when he was a youth in Germany. So to reach this far into the so called “no room for racism” and make a joke implying the asians as a race has no distinct features that separates let’s say Japan and Korea implies that there is a double standard for you that blk rcism bad and that any rcial jokes on asians are ok as long as they are not “ill intended”. Nonsense. Imagine an Asian kid in the Tottenham youth camp who is bombarded with the same kind of epithets from his teammates? Should he toughen up and ignore it? Or say, the kids saying this stuff holds no value in society discourse. Get real. This isn’t woke gone wrong.
Bentancur has obviously shown his true colours. He is Racist, from a backward third world country. Koreans must boycott the match if Rodrigo goes there in preseason.
What makes you any different after that comment??
@@stuartmoore477 because they are backward that's what. Sonny's kind are very forward.
@@angelotyro2867 🙄
Suggesting "foreign" names as more exciting and making having few laughs on account of Emerson Royale and his foreign name is a bit racist wouldnt you say.Actually, it is racist. Are you racists?
Are ginger jokes acceptable? Obviously ginger people are generally western origin, so is it anti white. Personally I think it is just as bad so who are the offence gate keepers?
Do you consider asians as a thing? Aren't they human beings? How could they all look the same? It sounds like you don't respect their genetic diversity, what do you think they are? they are not the products made from the same factory tho. Do your neighbours and you all look the same? If not, why?
Bentamcur situation os ridiculous. Snowflake society , he said some words , oh no , who tf cares . Coming from a poor uneducated upbringing cant blame him for aome things he says . Lets just move on and stay positive
Thats not for u to decide tho, is it
People like you who are stupid and have stupid parents then I cant really blame you.
But poor or uneducated doesn’t mean he is stupid to know what cant be said!
Btw I am Korean and I care!
I dare you to say racist comments in front of me instead of being a keyboard warrior!
Yes lets call people offended by the comment "snowflakes" when its people like you that are never subjected to these kinds of dehumanizing comments , rather use these sorts of language yourself to point fun at a certain ethnicity because they all look the same. This isnt "wokeism" gone wrong. This is inappropriate, just as bad as doing a slant eye or mnkey chants. If they are going to crack down hard on blck rcism, turning a blind eye to this implies double standard. You should know better because whte rcism is not only ignored but generally accepted as a joke.
The way these 2 clam up when talking about this incident shows how brainwashed British media are about racism. The self righteousness is cringe worthy.
I can say the same if someone calls a black person a monkey!