The Sikh empire was vastly superior to the British forces that were in India, the only reason the Sikh empire collapsed is because of the Dogra Hindu's that manipulated the court and caused many deaths within the Royal family discreetly basically playing a Game of Thrones, and then they went to the British and made a deal with the British where they'll command Sikh troops to die purposely and not send reinforcements so the British can win the Anglo-Sikh wars and in return they'll have royal status of their lands. The Sikh Empire was the first modernized force within India, and was based off European standards, with several Foreign generals that trained their troops, and these generals included veterans from the Napoleanic Wars. They had a elite sikh unit that spoke in French as well. Apparently the emperor of France was friendly with Maharaja Ranjit Singh and sent him a gift. Maharaja Ranjit Singh united Panjab at a super young age and fought his first battle at 14, the British were afraid of Ranjit Singh when he was alive due to his intelligence and strategic skills. Another downfall is when Akali Phula Singh, a Nihang (Immortals) Sikh (Super traditonal Sikh) advised the Emperor that the Empire should be for the Sikh Community as a whole, and that the next Maharaja should be a skilled general as Ranjit's kids were inadequate. Hari Singh Nalwa known as the Tiger Killer was basically the Top general of the Sikh Empire, he's known for killing a Tiger with his bare hands by ripping it's mouth apart, as well as conquering the Pasthuns, he became a Afghan boogeyman where Afghan mothers would tell their kids "To go to sleep before Hari Singh Nalwa comes for you." He had the tradition of making Afghan men dress like women in order to be spared, that culture still exists today of their men wearing women's clothing (I think it's called Salwar Kameez) Once he finally died in Battle, he told the Sikhs to show his body and act like he's still alive, as his name alone rings fear tinto the Afghan troops.
I’ve had a run on the latest patch where I was able to declare on EIC and Britain wouldn’t join, but that was very rare and took multiple runs to have happen lol. This is def the better strat though, look forward to trying it sometime.
When I was doing my run as Sikh Empire I forgot about truce with EIC and they declared war on me.. Then Britain wanted to help me for favor against its own colony xD
@@ramp597 you just have to create offer to the demands of the goods of your economy. If it says you will not make money in some cases it is not true because you need to build other buildings aswell to fulfill its demands. Very important is if you go to war some nations will stop trade with you and that kills your economy. To prevent that prepare your economy for that through building an autarky economy that is independent from trade.
These days I usually pre-emptively invade and take all oil provinces before there is any demand of oil. That way you don't have to deal with it and have them spawn oil after there is a demand of it.
Go west and bully Persia for Fars, easier if you haven't gotten your navy sorted yet. Alternatively you could pupper->annex them, which has the benefit of putting you on the border of the Ottomans, who you can take Basra and Mosul from. Between those 3 it took me well in to the 1910s before I needed another source of oil.
Love the guide. Fyi you cant get Empire under the Pun if u form India (as far as I know) but still a great guide. Grüße aus der schönsten Fahrradstadt in Deutschland ^^
EIC is a super weak enemy. Even Bhurma can shat on EIC 10 times of its size. The problem is EIC discriminated against its own pops.. Officers and servicemen who dies during battles takes super long to be retrained at barracks, thus after the initial battles, they run out of manpower super quickly.
No, forming the India is not relevant with annexing the EIC. I form India 10 year later, when all the truces expired, EIC is still a dominion, no more no less.
THE best tutorial out there! Can you clarify if Punjab was really a split state historically in 1836 because on Wikipedia the first Anglo-Sikh war happened after 1836.
The Sikh empire was vastly superior to the British forces that were in India, the only reason the Sikh empire collapsed is because of the Dogra's that manipulated the court and caused many deaths within the Royal family discreetly basically playing a Game of Thrones, and then they went to the British and made a deal with the British where they'll command Sikh troops to die purposely and not send reinforcements so the British can win the Anglo-Sikh wars and in return they'll have royal status of their lands. The Sikh Empire was the first modernized force within India, and was based off European standards, with several Foreign generals that trained their troops, and these generals included veterans from the Napoleanic Wars. They had a elite sikh unit that spoke in French as well. Apparently the emperor of France was friendly with Maharaja Ranjit Singh and sent him a gift. Maharaja Ranjit Singh united Panjab at a super young age and fought his first battle at 14, the British were afraid of Ranjit Singh when he was alive due to his intelligence and strategic skills. Another downfall is when Akali Phula Singh, a Nihang (Immortals) Sikh (Super traditonal Sikh) advised the Emperor that the Empire should be for the Sikh Community as a whole, and that the next Maharaja should be a skilled general as Ranjit's kids were inadequate. Hari Singh Nalwa known as the Tiger Killer was basically the Top general of the Sikh Empire, he's known for killing a Tiger with his bare hands by ripping it's mouth apart, as well as conquering the Pasthuns, he became a Afghan boogeyman where Afghan mothers would tell their kids "To go to sleep before Hari Singh Nalwa comes for you." He had the tradition of making Afghan men dress like women in order to be spared, that culture still exists today of their men wearing women's clothing (I think it's called Salwar Kameez) Once he finally died in Battle, he told the Sikhs to show his body and act like he's still alive, as his name alone rings fear tinto the Afghan troops.
The Sikh Empire (1799-1839) ruled under Maharaja Ranjit Singh included all of present day Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, all of Pakistan-Punjab, all of Jammu Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan, and present day India-Punjab. The most western part was Jamrud.
I'm not sure about exact borders or anything, but the Sikh Empire was essentially a highly modernized military and religious state. The First Anglo Sikh war was when the British and the Sikhs actually went to war, with guns and all, but the British had been interfering in Sikh politics for a long time indirectly. Beyond that, I don't know about how Punjab was split between the British and the Sikhs, but knowing what "Punjab" (both Indian and Pakistani) is today, those mountains to the north of Indian Punjab in game, which the EIC control at game start, don't look like they'd be part of Punjab to me, so I'm not sure why those are part of Punjab, instead of Kashmir. It's likely a gameplay balancing thing as a way to create tension between the EIC and Sikh Empire, who both will want to take the other part of what they consider their state.
@@Tarkusarkusar Indian Panjab was also split into 2 separate states such as Haryana after Partition, as part of India's plan on effectively eliminating Panjabi and replacing it with Hindi, but this is a whole different topic, also Sikh history is effectively being erased purposely by the oppressive Indian Government (Which is why they also classified Sikhs as Hindus with uncut hair legally) Got to be careful about sources when studying Panjabi history. And if you're wondering the correct spelling is Panjab Panj which means 5, and Ab which means Rivers, (Land of the five rivers) it was named by Persians. Many of the politics earlier were regarding the Nihang Singhs (They used to steal weapons and horses and sleep on horses as well to always be ready for combat, Nihang Singhs don't believe in such thing as Property, many British accounts will depict them as vicious savages, there was a story in a British written Sikh encyclopedia about a Officer getting his hand chopped off by one), before that they were concerned about how rapidly expanding the empire was, and they were in contact with the Phulkian Sardars. Eventually the British were communicating with Hari Singh Nalwa as he understood English, so he was sort of a Aid to the Maharaja. Eventually the British started conspiring with the Dogras whom betrayed the Sikh empire and is why the British won the Anglo-Sikh wars. It's believed the Maharaja Ranjit Singh might have been poisoned instead of dying from a natural death, as many of the deaths in the Royal family were thanks to the Dogras effectively trying to rule over the Royal family, and manipulating the court playing a sort of" game of thrones" Got to read from multiple sources, unfortunately the Indian government is holding onto some Sikh history themselves when they raided the holy golden temple in 84, and looted the library as well as some artifacts. 80% of the Military was Muslim, and essentially some of these Non-sikhs would convert to Sikhi so they can get better positions or higher ranks, other than the foreign generals that shaped the army into a capable modernized force. ( such as the Fauj-i-ain, Fauj-i-Khas and of course the Irregulars whom were the Nihang or Akali Sikhs who maintained their traditional way of combat, since the 10th Sikh Guru. ) But yeah the video game gave the Sikh empire a smaller start to create Tension with the EIC faction, these games are known to have slight inaccuracies regarding India, but I can't really blame them because of the amount of kingdoms and politics India was rife with, for example before the Sikh empire formed, it was Sikh Misl's (Warbands) and they all invaded eachother, however when a Non-sikh threat invaded Panjab, all of these Sikh warbands would unite into 1 Confederacy and attack the invaders, and then afterwards they'd continue their politics with eachother lol, however in EU4, they only let you play as a leader of 1 Prominent Sikh misl, lead by Jassa Singh, and they ignore Banda Singh Bahadur, who was a major Sikh Commander during the Sikh vs Mughal empire times.
14:50 I'd recommend you to pass Laissez Faire using Corn Laws journal entry, it gets super easy and reliable because you can switch leader of Land Owners interest group for Market Liberal and so they will support it.
I played till around 1915, conquered Thailand, Afghanistan and Central Asia and became number one GDP country in the world but still didnt manage to get a single province out of EIC, due to dubious combat mechanics... I just couldn't break through their armies and even naval invasions were not too useful. I consider it kind of victory anyway, since I had primacy in standard of living GDP and most trade goods.
Have you tried releasing eic's puppets? In my reconquest of india, every time I declared war I just took 1 state, war reps and released 2-3 puppets. Then, when I declared on the puppets Eic would join but not UK, making it much easier.
Awesome guide on how to make the sikh empire powerful. One issue im having is Britain is not getting involved in the second war with EIC where u try to get recognition and war reps. Ive tried reloading a few times now :/
This might be because Britain is busy fighting a big war. Check if they're fighting Qing or America or something. If not, I'm not sure what's going on but they might just hate the EIC for whatever reason. Thing is, if Britain doesn't help the EIC, then they'll lose the EIC as a dominion once the war starts, which can be very positive for you in a different way. That strategy is actually what I used for my old speedrun strat on this channel. It's less reliable on current patch.
@@Tarkusarkusar yea they weren’t at war, i tried to make them hate me by expelling diplomats and ruining relations but they never got involved. however this playthrough has been amazing so far, taken alot of land from EIC because they are independent from Britain now like you said. Not sure if i should keep taking land from EIC and their puppets until i own India, or when i should go for subjugating Britain. Also i noticed when i switched to skirmish infantry i got my ass kicked by EIC, i assume this is because my military isnt well equipped enough and i need more ammunition and small arms etc. Any advice?
@@Gutta1917 You can import ammunition in the short term from Prussia, France and America, although you'll want to build munitions plants and their supply chain requirements eventually to get a local supply.
If you delete the troops in Kashmir and Pashtunistan, it'll mean 2 of your generals (who previously controlled the troops in those states) will no longer have any battalions, making them not in your control. You'd have to make more generals in the North India HQ to get more generals. In terms the EIC declaring war before the truce, I don't know how that could happen, but the easiest explanation is that you weren't paying attention and the truce actually was gone. Beyond that, I'd need more details to figure out how they could declare before the truce ended.
@@Tarkusarkusar i had 3 generals in punjab 0 in the other regions and they all had 10-25 batalions the moment i deleted the generals all the units whent to the single general i still had thus leaving 90% of fronts open and and a rapid collapse of my nation insued
Unlike in EU4, you cannot switch cultures in Vic 3, so given that the EIC has English culture, they can only form England, which would be really funny if someone did it... next video maybe monkaS?
Yeah, the EIC is strictly the English administration of India. You *can* create a hypercursed EIC if you get multiculturalism, as any migrating Indian will then slowly become British.
@@Videokirby it would be funny if you could culture convert in vic3 and become an indian cultured eic, kind of like a british version of the mughal empire
Will you make an updated one once the new updates come out? I think alot of this tutorial might be outdated now with the new mechanics that are in the game and will be getting added
Yeah, it's tough when AI GPs mess with you. I was lucky to not have to deal with it, but sometimes, you just gotta live with it. As I mentioned in my video, many GPs aren't willing to actually participate in wars all that often, but sometimes they will be a complete ass to you, especially if they've added war goals. not much you can do besides considering backing down if you've got a lot of war goals stacked against you and no chance of winning. You can always sneakily naval invade your main opponent's capital and hope it works, although Vienna is a bit far inland for that sadly.
This is kinda still working. Britain more aggressively using it troops, but i guess you still can naval invade them if you lucky, they fixed teleportation bug tho.
There's no way that I know to manipulate the AI into sending generals around. I've seen them not put a general up north before, and it can be a pain, but even in those situations, I've usually been able to break through, eventually. Sometimes when there is a general there, I have huge trouble breaking through. It's just kind of a luck thing.
Great content ! I just don't understand how you manage to stall/invade EIC + GB with only 90 troops, in my 3rd war was out number me wayy too much and i can't handle the triple front anymore while I'm using conscript from dehli and pundjab + having 120 regular troops any tips on it? Cheers
Since the EIC is a major power, you have to be a great power to transfer them. In theory, you can reach Great Power faster than I did, but I found that grabbing London was a good way to make future wars against Britain easier, while also accelerating my growth to Great Power.
Quite honestly, no idea. I wish I understood more about the game's combat system but it is sadly shrouded in mystery. Sometimes I break through in one battle, other times, it takes forever. My theory is that there is some kind of behind the scenes dice roll going on for each battle that affects outcomes which we can't see.
@@Tarkusarkusar It seems like if they don't have a general, you end up fighting their entire defensive line and can't break through. Once they send a general, the battles become narrow. I've noticed if you wait and let them attack a few times, their manpower gets worn down and you can almost always break through after that.
You can also use this to your advantage by having your generals in Stand By, which makes the enemy fight a much larger width on the attack if there are few fronts.
I don't like the fact that it changes the cool name Empire to just a country name, as the sikh I conquered the borders of Umayyads and just left the game there, just to have a cool map
Nice. Sounds like a cool map. As for the De Normandie Gigachads, probably not going back to it just cause it became boring at a certain point once the border gore got insane, and I didn't have much material to show off.
forming india ruins the empire under the sun achievement... be aware... i did a similar thing, but all that indian land at the start is juda kinda burden. i was fine just keeping a buncha provinces in northern india. also my britain barely came into save the EIC.
I feel like India as a formable is fine for an empire but so big and so much population and natural resources you could easily go for superpower. Maybe not historical but I would want sub kingdoms for it for mid tier formables. You could go from quite ahistorical 'West India' 'East India' types, or countries like P Dravidia and North India or if you have any better ideas as I am not too learned on their history
No its not. “Seek” is a westernization of Sikh. I am Sikh and Punjabi, ask an Amritdhari and they will always say Sikh, and refer to it as Sikhi (not Sikhism)
It's a common mispronunciation to say "seek" for Sikhism, but the word in Punjabi is this one --> ਸਿੱਖ (pronounced sick). I speak Punjabi and grew up in a Punjabi community and can tell you it is definitely pronounced as it is written. I'm honestly not sure why when you google "sikh pronunciation" it gives the wrong way to say it, but rip.
man if only the sikh navally invaded britain and teleported troops there irl...
never would've thought forming india would be this easy lol
TRUE
Trueeee
It would never have happened, because it was the most peaceful century.
no fr it could've happened if they were just a little bit smarter...smh my head.........
The Sikh empire was vastly superior to the British forces that were in India, the only reason the Sikh empire collapsed is because of the Dogra Hindu's that manipulated the court and caused many deaths within the Royal family discreetly basically playing a Game of Thrones, and then they went to the British and made a deal with the British where they'll command Sikh troops to die purposely and not send reinforcements so the British can win the Anglo-Sikh wars and in return they'll have royal status of their lands. The Sikh Empire was the first modernized force within India, and was based off European standards, with several Foreign generals that trained their troops, and these generals included veterans from the Napoleanic Wars. They had a elite sikh unit that spoke in French as well. Apparently the emperor of France was friendly with Maharaja Ranjit Singh and sent him a gift. Maharaja Ranjit Singh united Panjab at a super young age and fought his first battle at 14, the British were afraid of Ranjit Singh when he was alive due to his intelligence and strategic skills. Another downfall is when Akali Phula Singh, a Nihang (Immortals) Sikh (Super traditonal Sikh) advised the Emperor that the Empire should be for the Sikh Community as a whole, and that the next Maharaja should be a skilled general as Ranjit's kids were inadequate. Hari Singh Nalwa known as the Tiger Killer was basically the Top general of the Sikh Empire, he's known for killing a Tiger with his bare hands by ripping it's mouth apart, as well as conquering the Pasthuns, he became a Afghan boogeyman where Afghan mothers would tell their kids "To go to sleep before Hari Singh Nalwa comes for you." He had the tradition of making Afghan men dress like women in order to be spared, that culture still exists today of their men wearing women's clothing (I think it's called Salwar Kameez) Once he finally died in Battle, he told the Sikhs to show his body and act like he's still alive, as his name alone rings fear tinto the Afghan troops.
I’ve had a run on the latest patch where I was able to declare on EIC and Britain wouldn’t join, but that was very rare and took multiple runs to have happen lol. This is def the better strat though, look forward to trying it sometime.
When I was doing my run as Sikh Empire I forgot about truce with EIC and they declared war on me.. Then Britain wanted to help me for favor against its own colony xD
@@cebulak6695vic 3 moment
This channel has an illegally low number of subs for doing so high quality guides. Thanks for your content!
i love the video but the quality of the video might be the reason
You deserve more recognition for these tutorials, they are insane!
The best I could do was around 1890. This is a good and thoroughly explained guide.
still good compared to me still not understanding the economy😅
@@ramp597 you just have to create offer to the demands of the goods of your economy. If it says you will not make money in some cases it is not true because you need to build other buildings aswell to fulfill its demands. Very important is if you go to war some nations will stop trade with you and that kills your economy. To prevent that prepare your economy for that through building an autarky economy that is independent from trade.
really nice guide. the one plus of grabbing Borneo would be to get the oil since that becomes an annoying bottle neck for me in early-late game
There is a nice ring to "Indian East Indies", don't you think?
These days I usually pre-emptively invade and take all oil provinces before there is any demand of oil. That way you don't have to deal with it and have them spawn oil after there is a demand of it.
Go west and bully Persia for Fars, easier if you haven't gotten your navy sorted yet. Alternatively you could pupper->annex them, which has the benefit of putting you on the border of the Ottomans, who you can take Basra and Mosul from. Between those 3 it took me well in to the 1910s before I needed another source of oil.
@@Bragosso a good sense of hindsight is the best skill in a parodox gaymers tool box of tricks
I like how he correctly pronounces the province and leader names. Great work man
No he doesn't. Great guide but don't lie lmfao
@@oceanman6327 he pronounced punjabi and panjab better than most
@@Kebasr71 yeah but he pronounced it like paan lol
cool profile picture
Love the guide. Fyi you cant get Empire under the Pun if u form India (as far as I know) but still a great guide.
Grüße aus der schönsten Fahrradstadt in Deutschland ^^
Münster 🎉🎉🎉
Sadge, my bad to spread misinformation. I'll be sure to mention it in the sequel video.
@@Tarkusarkusar I don't recall u saying that u could get empire under the pun while forming India, so all good.
Love the style of narration. Glad youtube suggested you today. Happy new year!
Pretty Sikh guide my brother
EIC is a super weak enemy. Even Bhurma can shat on EIC 10 times of its size. The problem is EIC discriminated against its own pops.. Officers and servicemen who dies during battles takes super long to be retrained at barracks, thus after the initial battles, they run out of manpower super quickly.
21:00 If you wait until after your truce with the EIC runs out and annex them before forming India, it will annex all the princely states.
No, forming the India is not relevant with annexing the EIC. I form India 10 year later, when all the truces expired, EIC is still a dominion, no more no less.
Tarkus, you should do a Portugal Campaign and colonise all of Africa, Brazil and Asia. You have a great start and would honestly make you a powerhouse
You know he is a real chad when he plays speed 5 no pause 🗿
EIC can not afford their army costs usually. They suffer from all the large pop problems of low taxation capacity and a tiny GDP per capita.
I hope PDX will release a "Revenge of the Sikh" or "Down with the Sikhness" achievement. 😂
THE best tutorial out there! Can you clarify if Punjab was really a split state historically in 1836 because on Wikipedia the first Anglo-Sikh war happened after 1836.
The Sikh empire was vastly superior to the British forces that were in India, the only reason the Sikh empire collapsed is because of the Dogra's that manipulated the court and caused many deaths within the Royal family discreetly basically playing a Game of Thrones, and then they went to the British and made a deal with the British where they'll command Sikh troops to die purposely and not send reinforcements so the British can win the Anglo-Sikh wars and in return they'll have royal status of their lands. The Sikh Empire was the first modernized force within India, and was based off European standards, with several Foreign generals that trained their troops, and these generals included veterans from the Napoleanic Wars. They had a elite sikh unit that spoke in French as well. Apparently the emperor of France was friendly with Maharaja Ranjit Singh and sent him a gift. Maharaja Ranjit Singh united Panjab at a super young age and fought his first battle at 14, the British were afraid of Ranjit Singh when he was alive due to his intelligence and strategic skills. Another downfall is when Akali Phula Singh, a Nihang (Immortals) Sikh (Super traditonal Sikh) advised the Emperor that the Empire should be for the Sikh Community as a whole, and that the next Maharaja should be a skilled general as Ranjit's kids were inadequate. Hari Singh Nalwa known as the Tiger Killer was basically the Top general of the Sikh Empire, he's known for killing a Tiger with his bare hands by ripping it's mouth apart, as well as conquering the Pasthuns, he became a Afghan boogeyman where Afghan mothers would tell their kids "To go to sleep before Hari Singh Nalwa comes for you." He had the tradition of making Afghan men dress like women in order to be spared, that culture still exists today of their men wearing women's clothing (I think it's called Salwar Kameez) Once he finally died in Battle, he told the Sikhs to show his body and act like he's still alive, as his name alone rings fear tinto the Afghan troops.
The Sikh Empire (1799-1839) ruled under Maharaja Ranjit Singh included all of present day Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, all of Pakistan-Punjab, all of Jammu Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan, and present day India-Punjab. The most western part was Jamrud.
I'm not sure about exact borders or anything, but the Sikh Empire was essentially a highly modernized military and religious state. The First Anglo Sikh war was when the British and the Sikhs actually went to war, with guns and all, but the British had been interfering in Sikh politics for a long time indirectly. Beyond that, I don't know about how Punjab was split between the British and the Sikhs, but knowing what "Punjab" (both Indian and Pakistani) is today, those mountains to the north of Indian Punjab in game, which the EIC control at game start, don't look like they'd be part of Punjab to me, so I'm not sure why those are part of Punjab, instead of Kashmir. It's likely a gameplay balancing thing as a way to create tension between the EIC and Sikh Empire, who both will want to take the other part of what they consider their state.
@@Tarkusarkusar Indian Panjab was also split into 2 separate states such as Haryana after Partition, as part of India's plan on effectively eliminating Panjabi and replacing it with Hindi, but this is a whole different topic, also Sikh history is effectively being erased purposely by the oppressive Indian Government (Which is why they also classified Sikhs as Hindus with uncut hair legally) Got to be careful about sources when studying Panjabi history. And if you're wondering the correct spelling is Panjab Panj which means 5, and Ab which means Rivers, (Land of the five rivers) it was named by Persians. Many of the politics earlier were regarding the Nihang Singhs (They used to steal weapons and horses and sleep on horses as well to always be ready for combat, Nihang Singhs don't believe in such thing as Property, many British accounts will depict them as vicious savages, there was a story in a British written Sikh encyclopedia about a Officer getting his hand chopped off by one), before that they were concerned about how rapidly expanding the empire was, and they were in contact with the Phulkian Sardars. Eventually the British were communicating with Hari Singh Nalwa as he understood English, so he was sort of a Aid to the Maharaja. Eventually the British started conspiring with the Dogras whom betrayed the Sikh empire and is why the British won the Anglo-Sikh wars. It's believed the Maharaja Ranjit Singh might have been poisoned instead of dying from a natural death, as many of the deaths in the Royal family were thanks to the Dogras effectively trying to rule over the Royal family, and manipulating the court playing a sort of" game of thrones" Got to read from multiple sources, unfortunately the Indian government is holding onto some Sikh history themselves when they raided the holy golden temple in 84, and looted the library as well as some artifacts. 80% of the Military was Muslim, and essentially some of these Non-sikhs would convert to Sikhi so they can get better positions or higher ranks, other than the foreign generals that shaped the army into a capable modernized force. ( such as the Fauj-i-ain, Fauj-i-Khas and of course the Irregulars whom were the Nihang or Akali Sikhs who maintained their traditional way of combat, since the 10th Sikh Guru. ) But yeah the video game gave the Sikh empire a smaller start to create Tension with the EIC faction, these games are known to have slight inaccuracies regarding India, but I can't really blame them because of the amount of kingdoms and politics India was rife with, for example before the Sikh empire formed, it was Sikh Misl's (Warbands) and they all invaded eachother, however when a Non-sikh threat invaded Panjab, all of these Sikh warbands would unite into 1 Confederacy and attack the invaders, and then afterwards they'd continue their politics with eachother lol, however in EU4, they only let you play as a leader of 1 Prominent Sikh misl, lead by Jassa Singh, and they ignore Banda Singh Bahadur, who was a major Sikh Commander during the Sikh vs Mughal empire times.
Just like real life, I liked the part where India colonised London.
But this time London isn’t gonna ban knife-carrying - the Sikh community is going to make knives mandatory!
State enforced knoife fighting
14:50 I'd recommend you to pass Laissez Faire using Corn Laws journal entry, it gets super easy and reliable because you can switch leader of Land Owners interest group for Market Liberal and so they will support it.
I cannot just abolish serfdom like you did, there is no such option in the laws menu
There's something I don't understand. In my games the AI don't lose warscore below zero when you ask for war reps and don't take their capital.
can you update this for 1.5
so i got memed on, i declared on jaisalmer... and while i wasnt looking the EIC annexed it with their journal thingy...
I played till around 1915, conquered Thailand, Afghanistan and Central Asia and became number one GDP country in the world but still didnt manage to get a single province out of EIC, due to dubious combat mechanics... I just couldn't break through their armies and even naval invasions were not too useful. I consider it kind of victory anyway, since I had primacy in standard of living GDP and most trade goods.
Have you tried releasing eic's puppets? In my reconquest of india, every time I declared war I just took 1 state, war reps and released 2-3 puppets. Then, when I declared on the puppets Eic would join but not UK, making it much easier.
Awesome guide on how to make the sikh empire powerful.
One issue im having is Britain is not getting involved in the second war with EIC where u try to get recognition and war reps. Ive tried reloading a few times now :/
This might be because Britain is busy fighting a big war. Check if they're fighting Qing or America or something. If not, I'm not sure what's going on but they might just hate the EIC for whatever reason. Thing is, if Britain doesn't help the EIC, then they'll lose the EIC as a dominion once the war starts, which can be very positive for you in a different way. That strategy is actually what I used for my old speedrun strat on this channel. It's less reliable on current patch.
@@Tarkusarkusar yea they weren’t at war, i tried to make them hate me by expelling diplomats and ruining relations but they never got involved. however this playthrough has been amazing so far, taken alot of land from EIC because they are independent from Britain now like you said.
Not sure if i should keep taking land from EIC and their puppets until i own India, or when i should go for subjugating Britain.
Also i noticed when i switched to skirmish infantry i got my ass kicked by EIC, i assume this is because my military isnt well equipped enough and i need more ammunition and small arms etc.
Any advice?
@@Gutta1917 You can import ammunition in the short term from Prussia, France and America, although you'll want to build munitions plants and their supply chain requirements eventually to get a local supply.
As am indian I am excited with india its really sad we were under occupation for the last 1000 years
i am Pakistani and thus must laugh at your sadness (PAKISTAN SUPREME)
@@Muzamil-e5m common man 😥 yeah It is sad but atleast I am not living in Pakistan( temporary nation )😁
@@gamingraju2413 You can dream all you want but the current endia is the one thats temporary. 😂
*dies of cringe*
@@slimmy478-6 yes we will make a akhand bharat india is temporary
i tried
i died
5 days before the first truce expired the eic declaired on me idk how
and 2 of my generals where 'not under my controle'
If you delete the troops in Kashmir and Pashtunistan, it'll mean 2 of your generals (who previously controlled the troops in those states) will no longer have any battalions, making them not in your control. You'd have to make more generals in the North India HQ to get more generals. In terms the EIC declaring war before the truce, I don't know how that could happen, but the easiest explanation is that you weren't paying attention and the truce actually was gone. Beyond that, I'd need more details to figure out how they could declare before the truce ended.
@@Tarkusarkusar i had 3 generals in punjab 0 in the other regions and they all had 10-25 batalions the moment i deleted the generals all the units whent to the single general i still had thus leaving 90% of fronts open and and a rapid collapse of my nation insued
RA3 soundtrack pog
Gonna see if this works with the 1.1 patch when that comes out next week (i belive)
Please recreate true PLC borders starting as Krakow
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That might be a tad harder tho
the good ending
can you form india AS the EIC or is it a sikh empire only formation
How the hell would that work?
Unlike in EU4, you cannot switch cultures in Vic 3, so given that the EIC has English culture, they can only form England, which would be really funny if someone did it... next video maybe monkaS?
@@Tarkusarkusar that’s unfortunate, was looking for a shortcut for India xD, and yeah forming England as India would definitely be cancer
Yeah, the EIC is strictly the English administration of India. You *can* create a hypercursed EIC if you get multiculturalism, as any migrating Indian will then slowly become British.
@@Videokirby it would be funny if you could culture convert in vic3 and become an indian cultured eic, kind of like a british version of the mughal empire
Will you make an updated one once the new updates come out? I think alot of this tutorial might be outdated now with the new mechanics that are in the game and will be getting added
Austria loved fucking w my shit in my playthrough and I had to release sind to please them (tho i got recognition for doing so).
Yeah, it's tough when AI GPs mess with you. I was lucky to not have to deal with it, but sometimes, you just gotta live with it. As I mentioned in my video, many GPs aren't willing to actually participate in wars all that often, but sometimes they will be a complete ass to you, especially if they've added war goals. not much you can do besides considering backing down if you've got a lot of war goals stacked against you and no chance of winning. You can always sneakily naval invade your main opponent's capital and hope it works, although Vienna is a bit far inland for that sadly.
What do I do when the UK joins but not the EIC?
Add Lanka in that Map as well
Been trying this in the 1.2 patch and I'm not sure if it's possible, anyone been successful in 1.2?
This is kinda still working. Britain more aggressively using it troops, but i guess you still can naval invade them if you lucky, they fixed teleportation bug tho.
I cant get abolished serfdom because there is no support for it? How did you manage that?
Hmm yes lore of Sikh into chakravarti momentum 100
Sadly, this guide doesn't work anymore as EIC actually uses their army
I did this strategy 5 times and collapsed my economy before the 2nd war lol I suck at the game.
tried this and EIC didnt join the Sindh war but Britain did.
You have to scrap it and try again.
As Brandon said, you have to reset the first war until EIC joins, and Britain doesn't
Is there anyway to get the EIC to send a general north? I cant seem to break through if the EIC sends no general to defend its north
There's no way that I know to manipulate the AI into sending generals around. I've seen them not put a general up north before, and it can be a pain, but even in those situations, I've usually been able to break through, eventually. Sometimes when there is a general there, I have huge trouble breaking through. It's just kind of a luck thing.
Great content ! I just don't understand how you manage to stall/invade EIC + GB with only 90 troops, in my 3rd war was out number me wayy too much and i can't handle the triple front anymore while I'm using conscript from dehli and pundjab + having 120 regular troops any tips on it? Cheers
So, that economic plan early game.
Beat direct colonialism by being a banana republic?
Why did you have to take London first instead of just going for Transfer EIC? You can't transfer subjects unless you're a great power?
Since the EIC is a major power, you have to be a great power to transfer them. In theory, you can reach Great Power faster than I did, but I found that grabbing London was a good way to make future wars against Britain easier, while also accelerating my growth to Great Power.
Why is it you can't break through against EIC if they never send a general to the front?
Quite honestly, no idea. I wish I understood more about the game's combat system but it is sadly shrouded in mystery. Sometimes I break through in one battle, other times, it takes forever. My theory is that there is some kind of behind the scenes dice roll going on for each battle that affects outcomes which we can't see.
@@Tarkusarkusar It seems like if they don't have a general, you end up fighting their entire defensive line and can't break through. Once they send a general, the battles become narrow. I've noticed if you wait and let them attack a few times, their manpower gets worn down and you can almost always break through after that.
You can also use this to your advantage by having your generals in Stand By, which makes the enemy fight a much larger width on the attack if there are few fronts.
lets go
why does india always declare war on me
Is that DMC 3 music?
all music can be found in the description (but to answer, yes, it is)
The “sick” empire do you mean “seek”
No you need to say it like sick
When the Sikh take notes from the Prussians.
I don't like the fact that it changes the cool name Empire to just a country name, as the sikh I conquered the borders of Umayyads and just left the game there, just to have a cool map
also are you going to continue the Normandie gigachads?
Nice. Sounds like a cool map. As for the De Normandie Gigachads, probably not going back to it just cause it became boring at a certain point once the border gore got insane, and I didn't have much material to show off.
nice vid
Cant really win second war, Brtis are pushing trough Delhi qute quick.
your saying "sihk" like sick but I think it's said like seek.
he is spot on with it. Great effort cause he pronounced them all very correctly
he is spot on with it. Great effort cause he pronounced them all very correctly
i hope this becomes reality soon
forming india ruins the empire under the sun achievement... be aware... i did a similar thing, but all that indian land at the start is juda kinda burden. i was fine just keeping a buncha provinces in northern india.
also my britain barely came into save the EIC.
why was vic3 so jank at launch my god. im so glad i only started playing after they fixed all of the tomfuckery
Yellow Persia to yellow India to yellow china is too much they need to be a deeper orange. wouldn't form. I hate the colour yellow
Completely agree, India should be orange, not yellow.
Only missing the continued yellow zone of Egypt into the piss yellow Austro-Magyarians.
I feel like India as a formable is fine for an empire but so big and so much population and natural resources you could easily go for superpower. Maybe not historical but I would want sub kingdoms for it for mid tier formables. You could go from quite ahistorical 'West India' 'East India' types, or countries like P Dravidia and North India or if you have any better ideas as I am not too learned on their history
make maratha empire to India
Army teleport cheese lol
7:30
Change the title to Forming Akhand Bharat XD
modi with a turban lmao 😂
It's pronounced 'seek'
No its not. “Seek” is a westernization of Sikh. I am Sikh and Punjabi, ask an Amritdhari and they will always say Sikh, and refer to it as Sikhi (not Sikhism)
It's a common mispronunciation to say "seek" for Sikhism, but the word in Punjabi is this one --> ਸਿੱਖ (pronounced sick). I speak Punjabi and grew up in a Punjabi community and can tell you it is definitely pronounced as it is written. I'm honestly not sure why when you google "sikh pronunciation" it gives the wrong way to say it, but rip.
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