Gundam SEED is a show that only audience with a mature mindset can understand. When we were all once young and naive, i assure you your 2nd or 3rd or even 4th rewatch when you become an adult, you will understand why SEED has excellent storytelling.
Decided to rewatch SEED for the first time since I was teenager, just as preparation before watching the Freedom movie. You're right, this series has far better characters, storytelling and themes than I ever gave it credit for.
People immediately hate on SEED for Kira’s Mary Sue tendencies but SEED is seriously well written. It has it flaws but it really dwelled a lot on conflicts, war and to a certain extent racism.
Don't forget that Seed was meant as a modernized remake of the OG series, but with more appeal for younger audiences at the time who had been long detached from the UC storylines. And while not being a UC show it carries that level of storytelling and themes. It can be a tad melodramatic specially early on, but once it gets past some early character development (and a few way too pop-y intros that undermine its seriousness a tad) it has a great story that is more accesible than its popular predecesor Gundam W.
This episode is one of example that i label boring during my 1st time watching about 20 years ago because i was looking for action. But when i actually hear the conversation between Uzumi dan AA crew. I now understand why this anime is amazing in storytelling
20:45 The fact that Yzak does not participate in the masaccre shows that he has his moral bottomline. In the novel series, he is even shocked by the cruelty of his fellow coordinator comrades, and feels that they are no superior to the naturals with such behaviour.
Agree, Yzak is a surprisingly well-made character. A soldier to the core who enjoys battle and dedicates his entire self to fight his enemies. But not a tool who can't tell right from wrong
2:34 Other than Ensign Neumann the chief helmsman, sometimes there is an assistant helmsman on the Archangel. The position is always filled by a MS/MA pilot: - Tolle Koenig - in position most of the time in 1st half of SEED. Later he was allocated to fly the Skygrasper until he was KIA. - Mu la Flaga - seen on the assistant helmsman seat when traversing the Debris Belt and approaching Orb after Alaska as seen here. - Andrew Waltfeld - declined to take the captain seat despite higher rank than Ramius. Spent time between the assistant helmsman position and his Murasame until he was sent to escort Lacus back to space. - Cagalli Yula Athha - acted as CIC until Miriallia Haw rejoined Archangel. Seen at assistant helmsman seat at Crete, Berlin and Angel Down when not piloting Strike Rouge. - Kira Yamato - seen at assistant helmsman seat when Archangel took off from Orb to the Moon.
Curiously, ZAFT in this episode attacked my Homeland. I AM FROM PANAMA 🇵🇦 They attacked the Azuero's Peninsula, Provinces of Veraguas (Mariato District) Herrera's Province (Chitré, Parita) and Los Santos' Province (Los Santos, Pedasí, Pocrí, Las Tablas, Guararé and Tonosí Districts were bombed) Azuero is located in the Pacific Litoral. And the Gungnir Bombs were stationed in Ocú (Veraguas' Province), Parita and Las Minas (Herrera's Province) and Las Tablas and Macaracas (Los Santos's Province)
19:34 It's amusing how the Gungnir would never be used again in the entire series until something very similar to it comes as part of the weapons system for the Mighty Strike Freedom and once again show how incredibly powerful it is.
You know... up until now, I start to realise that Earth alliance in the Gundam Seed series fights well than the Earth Federation (Universal century) because even without mobile suits, they were still able to destroy a good amount of ZAFT's mobile suits
@@lylestratos6880 honestly age isn't that bad, yes once that 3rd gen mc became pacifist like kira the plot kinda became dumb but it's still watchable i kinda enjoy romance theme in age, both 1st and 2nd gen mc married their childhood friend while there's possibility 3rd gen mc could also do same thing
Actually, no. Yes the Strike Daggers were made using the Strike Gundam’s combat data, but the Natural-use OS Kira made was used solely by the Orb Union. The EA made their own version.
It may be possible. For me, Kira Yamato has already developed Natural OS in Orb before he fight with Athrun, so it is possible there are Natural 0S data from Kira on Archangel. EA may access all data on Archangel.
In these troubled times, seed is a pretty poignant show that highlights the danger of us or them mentality. Both blue cosmos and patrick's faction had grounds to stand on even if it was flimsy, they followed it until countless tragedies forced everyone's hands. At the end of the day they were not so different after all. Look around you at platforms for discourse, don't you see similarities in real life?
You don't wake up hating another group spontaneously. It's endless escalating tit-for-tat moves that lead to extreme situations no one thought were possible, all because the incremental steps were normalized along the way.
@@XIguy you obviously missed the point cosmic era is heavily based on Universal century and the author confirmed both Mu and Rau are based on Casvals two disguised character. Actually there are three considered char clones in the series Athrun is supposed to be the char Aznable but he ain't got the blonde hair so for me he doesn't count.
Well, before the start of the OG series the Earth Federation was mostly relying on Tanks, Fighter planes and the anti mobile suit squad (people with nothing but bazookas going against a Zaku) on Earth so they were at a horrible disatvantage outside of the sky since Zakus can't fly.
It's what happens when you add racism to war. The problem seems to be the higher ups of ZAFT haven't laid down war crime laws. Probably due to them getting nuked, so they just didn't care.
It's only a war crime if you don't have the power to win. Just look at the Afghanistan drone strike just before the U.S. left. How about the pardoning of the blackwater contractors.
16:19 The GINN is bullet proof against a possibly 25mm or 30mm Gatling Gun. Yet Mu La Flaga with his SkyGrasper during the Alaska- JOSH-A Siege, he easily destroyed 5 Zaft GINNs and DINNs with the gatling turret of his skygrasper. ~Sigh~
*Pushes up nerd glasses* Ackshually, the turret of the FX-550 Skygrasper houses a Beam Cannon, not a gatling, which is the most power weapon on the base model, and more than capable of destroying a GINN
a standard 20mm machinegun on Skygrasper isn't able to damage the armor of typical/common mobile suit. however what Mu used to shoot down multiple GINN in previous episodes wasn't the 20mm machinegun. he flew to his left and used the combo weapon pack from Launcher Strike pod which houses 1x 120mm anti-ship vulcan and 2x 350mm gun launchers. im pretty sure the 120mm anti-ship vulcan can easily tear down armor of regular mobile suit.
I don't think the victory in Panama will change anything on ZAPT, the part they lost 80% of thier army in Alaska.. feel like the PLANTs are now going. All in or nothing also the part of war crime they commit on that battle.
The goal was to destroy the Mass Driver and cut off the EA’s supply line to their lunar headquarters so ZAFT could deplete their space fleet’s resources.
emp shielding I guess? Virtually anything that needs to work on space mist have very good shielding to withstand radiation, solar wind etc. The Strike Daggers here were apparently early versions without shielding(its also why there are newbies panicking after the emp, they were the earliest troops.)
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Gundam SEED is a show that only audience with a mature mindset can understand. When we were all once young and naive, i assure you your 2nd or 3rd or even 4th rewatch when you become an adult, you will understand why SEED has excellent storytelling.
Decided to rewatch SEED for the first time since I was teenager, just as preparation before watching the Freedom movie. You're right, this series has far better characters, storytelling and themes than I ever gave it credit for.
People immediately hate on SEED for Kira’s Mary Sue tendencies but SEED is seriously well written. It has it flaws but it really dwelled a lot on conflicts, war and to a certain extent racism.
Third rewatch
Destiny boring….
true
Don't forget that Seed was meant as a modernized remake of the OG series, but with more appeal for younger audiences at the time who had been long detached from the UC storylines. And while not being a UC show it carries that level of storytelling and themes. It can be a tad melodramatic specially early on, but once it gets past some early character development (and a few way too pop-y intros that undermine its seriousness a tad) it has a great story that is more accesible than its popular predecesor Gundam W.
This episode is one of the most brutal scene in entire gundam franchise.
And it is in my Homeland, Panamá 🇵🇦
Slow internet connection is much worse 😂
The moment when Mu transferred from MA to MS pilot
Finally! Mu has his own Gundam.
This episode is one of example that i label boring during my 1st time watching about 20 years ago because i was looking for action. But when i actually hear the conversation between Uzumi dan AA crew. I now understand why this anime is amazing in storytelling
20:45 The fact that Yzak does not participate in the masaccre shows that he has his moral bottomline. In the novel series, he is even shocked by the cruelty of his fellow coordinator comrades, and feels that they are no superior to the naturals with such behaviour.
why it's always novel ?
i prefer manga more than novel
Agree, Yzak is a surprisingly well-made character. A soldier to the core who enjoys battle and dedicates his entire self to fight his enemies. But not a tool who can't tell right from wrong
He was still a war criminal though😂.
@@razorsharpview9090 sadly true, though he honestly thought it was escaping soldiers
@@lkh5791 hahahahahahaha
I'm surprised Kira doesn't flinch seeing his Strike coming right at him.
2:34 Other than Ensign Neumann the chief helmsman, sometimes there is an assistant helmsman on the Archangel. The position is always filled by a MS/MA pilot:
- Tolle Koenig - in position most of the time in 1st half of SEED. Later he was allocated to fly the Skygrasper until he was KIA.
- Mu la Flaga - seen on the assistant helmsman seat when traversing the Debris Belt and approaching Orb after Alaska as seen here.
- Andrew Waltfeld - declined to take the captain seat despite higher rank than Ramius. Spent time between the assistant helmsman position and his Murasame until he was sent to escort Lacus back to space.
- Cagalli Yula Athha - acted as CIC until Miriallia Haw rejoined Archangel. Seen at assistant helmsman seat at Crete, Berlin and Angel Down when not piloting Strike Rouge.
- Kira Yamato - seen at assistant helmsman seat when Archangel took off from Orb to the Moon.
Curiously, ZAFT in this episode attacked my Homeland. I AM FROM PANAMA 🇵🇦
They attacked the Azuero's Peninsula, Provinces of Veraguas (Mariato District) Herrera's Province (Chitré, Parita) and Los Santos' Province (Los Santos, Pedasí, Pocrí, Las Tablas, Guararé and Tonosí Districts were bombed) Azuero is located in the Pacific Litoral. And the Gungnir Bombs were stationed in Ocú (Veraguas' Province), Parita and Las Minas (Herrera's Province) and Las Tablas and Macaracas (Los Santos's Province)
That's a cool fact. Would never have known otherwise.
@@Hate24 jajajaja well, I am a Panamanian, so when I saw this chapter I proceeded to investigate which areas of my countries were attacked.
@@caesarcastillo9236 I think thats very cool. Just goes to show Gundam is truly global 👍🏾
so sence you know the area, just out of hand, what do you think the civilian death toll would have been if this had been a real attack?
@@HighmageDerinabsolutely possible, so much population in these provinces.
19:34 It's amusing how the Gungnir would never be used again in the entire series until something very similar to it comes as part of the weapons system for the Mighty Strike Freedom and once again show how incredibly powerful it is.
You know... up until now, I start to realise that Earth alliance in the Gundam Seed series fights well than the Earth Federation (Universal century) because even without mobile suits, they were still able to destroy a good amount of ZAFT's mobile suits
...... now you mention it
EAF had a lot of ground units
@@bladeazuma That's true, and also they managed to produced enormous amounts of cannons, turrets and artillery guns.
This is kind of a remake of the OG if you think about it, then AGE is a remake made for kids
@@lylestratos6880 honestly age isn't that bad, yes once that 3rd gen mc became pacifist like kira the plot kinda became dumb but it's still watchable
i kinda enjoy romance theme in age, both 1st and 2nd gen mc married their childhood friend while there's possibility 3rd gen mc could also do same thing
18:54
이 장면은 볼 때마다 귀여움ㅋㅋㅋ
컨트롤러를 굳이 MS 크기에 맞춰서 만든 거ㅋㅋㅋ
this is the most insane franchise in all of Gundam
Please tell me you made this comment without watching G Gundam 💀💀💀 this is the sane show in the franchise compared to G Gundam crazyness
War is truly hell...
the way japan been building 3 gundam already soon they will use it to defened there country. lol.
I hope 😆
I don't give em wrong
Sadly, the US is gonna demand they hand 'em over.
Fun Fact: Naturals can operate Strike Daggers. All thanks to all data obtained in Archangel and Kira Yamato who made OS made natural users.
Actually, no. Yes the Strike Daggers were made using the Strike Gundam’s combat data, but the Natural-use OS Kira made was used solely by the Orb Union. The EA made their own version.
It may be possible. For me, Kira Yamato has already developed Natural OS in Orb before he fight with Athrun, so it is possible there are Natural 0S data from Kira on Archangel. EA may access all data on Archangel.
honestly I thought they were gonna paint the strike Gundam pink to make it the strike rouge, but instead they made a second strike but pink
Kira and Athrun maybe Coordinators they used to be like brothers when they were kids.
In these troubled times, seed is a pretty poignant show that highlights the danger of us or them mentality. Both blue cosmos and patrick's faction had grounds to stand on even if it was flimsy, they followed it until countless tragedies forced everyone's hands. At the end of the day they were not so different after all. Look around you at platforms for discourse, don't you see similarities in real life?
You don't wake up hating another group spontaneously. It's endless escalating tit-for-tat moves that lead to extreme situations no one thought were possible, all because the incremental steps were normalized along the way.
22:30 almost the same vibes like Domon replacing Shining with the Burning
Basically Gundam SEED War crime's Special episode
I've been thinking, at this point of this episode, does Cagalli ever thought Kira as her love interest, before knowing that they're siblings?
Yes
15:21, sad moment of a extra characters...
let it be known that this series had two Casval, Mu La Flaga as quattro and Rau as char aznable .
And they both wore mask
Which is true, Mu is described as Sleggar Law from 0079 with a hint of Quattro.
@@XIguy you obviously missed the point cosmic era is heavily based on Universal century and the author confirmed both Mu and Rau are based on Casvals two disguised character. Actually there are three considered char clones in the series Athrun is supposed to be the char Aznable but he ain't got the blonde hair so for me he doesn't count.
Well, before the start of the OG series the Earth Federation was mostly relying on Tanks, Fighter planes and the anti mobile suit squad (people with nothing but bazookas going against a Zaku) on Earth so they were at a horrible disatvantage outside of the sky since Zakus can't fly.
5:19 Did Sai just called their fallen comrade?? 😂😂
20:37 War crime😑
It's what happens when you add racism to war. The problem seems to be the higher ups of ZAFT haven't laid down war crime laws. Probably due to them getting nuked, so they just didn't care.
It's only a war crime if you don't have the power to win. Just look at the Afghanistan drone strike just before the U.S. left. How about the pardoning of the blackwater contractors.
15:14 to 15:23 is probably the most moving scene in seed
20:24 original English quote:
Serves you right! Are your toys broken?
Atlantic Federation? North America plus UK, IIRC. Eurasia? Continental Europe minus Scandanavia plus the Former Soviet Union.
Gundam Seed Destiny Please Gundaminfo From Indonesia.🇮🇩🇯🇵
16:19 The GINN is bullet proof against a possibly 25mm or 30mm Gatling Gun. Yet Mu La Flaga with his SkyGrasper during the Alaska- JOSH-A Siege, he easily destroyed 5 Zaft GINNs and DINNs with the gatling turret of his skygrasper. ~Sigh~
well maybe the shells are made with depleted uranium
@@lancegigs9022 It's just a lazy writing I think.
*Pushes up nerd glasses* Ackshually, the turret of the FX-550 Skygrasper houses a Beam Cannon, not a gatling, which is the most power weapon on the base model, and more than capable of destroying a GINN
@@razorsharpview9090 yeah probably.... since this series is full of it
a standard 20mm machinegun on Skygrasper isn't able to damage the armor of typical/common mobile suit. however what Mu used to shoot down multiple GINN in previous episodes wasn't the 20mm machinegun. he flew to his left and used the combo weapon pack from Launcher Strike pod which houses 1x 120mm anti-ship vulcan and 2x 350mm gun launchers. im pretty sure the 120mm anti-ship vulcan can easily tear down armor of regular mobile suit.
I don't think the victory in Panama will change anything on ZAPT, the part they lost 80% of thier army in Alaska.. feel like the PLANTs are now going. All in or nothing also the part of war crime they commit on that battle.
Rau's plan to force EA to attack Orb, since Panama was EA's last mass driver to get into space, the other one was under Orb control
Other EA task force invaded ZAFT Victoria base using strike daggers and got mass driver from ZAFT.
The goal was to destroy the Mass Driver and cut off the EA’s supply line to their lunar headquarters so ZAFT could deplete their space fleet’s resources.
12:22 I remember when I first saw this. They changed Athrun to Kira. 👀
스트라이크가 돌아왔군..... 그러나 이제는 무형님꺼ㅋㅋㅋ
so, why was the zaft forces not affected by the EMP-like bomb in that battlefield including the duel?
emp shielding I guess? Virtually anything that needs to work on space mist have very good shielding to withstand radiation, solar wind etc.
The Strike Daggers here were apparently early versions without shielding(its also why there are newbies panicking after the emp, they were the earliest troops.)
nice bounce at 15:44 xD
22:16 savage 🤣
Thats actually cringe/disturbing. Psychotic people...
@@nighthawk2611what are you talking about?
kira kinda talking down on mu not knowing hes talking to a newtype smh
오마에 ㅜㅜ
17:24 OH SHIT! INCOMING TIE FIGHTERS AT 9 O'CLOCK!
😘😘😘
Anyone knows why the ending song is not "Find the way" by Mika Nakashima?
remastered change ED
also Distance >> Find the way
Find The Way was supposed to be the third ED in Ep.39, so earlier episode ending was River.
🥰🥰😍😍😍🤩🤩🤩🤩
18:54
굳이 패널을 일일이 모빌슈트로 눌러야할 필요가 있을까...
무선 통신이나 그런거 쓸 생각은 못하나?
이거 20년전 애니임
무선통신은 재킹당할 확률이나 도청당할 확률이 높으니 은밀하게 할거면 저게 맞긴함
@@user-nr1re3ut2t 아니아니 그게 아니라
건담 더블오 보면 큐리오스가 손가락 끝에서 선을 레이저선 같은거 보내서 보인 해킹하는 장면이 있거든요
그런식으로 하는게 낫지 않았나 했습니다
내가 내추럴이면 코디네이터에 반응하는 생물학 바이러스 무기 뿌려버린다
그게 더 효과만점일듯
유전자조작체들이라서 훨씬 더 잘먹힐듯
그리고 생화학 태러했으니 니들은 전세계 적이다!!라고 다구리 당할듯요
유전자 조작안한 보통 인간한테도 교차전염안된다는 보장이 어디있나
@@soso-zt5jl 현직 의사임 유전학적으로 인위적 조작을 가한 개체는 특정 바이러스 특정 세균군에 극단적으로 취약할수 밖에 없다
그래서 감자나 바나나같은게 질병돌면 씨가 마르는거임
Aaaand the war crimes continue
奧布是地球圈內的國家 又如何能掙脫戰爭的束縛呢
톨 모가지가 왜 앞으로 뽑히나 했더니 이렇게 떨어지는거였구나 재밌넹
So evil!
15:42
진짜 그나마 건담중 명작으로 침 ㅋ
카즈이 ㅈㄴ이병성윤모같네ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
193.冷靜觀察現今局勢後 再好好地思考一下吧 也好好想想 你們身上所穿軍服的意義吧
194.都是出於無奈啊 不論是我，還是阿斯蘭
195.因為如果我不挺身而出的話 大家都會死掉的
196.這只是冷酷的數字加減啊
197.本國並不排斥調整者 只要遵守歐普的理念與法律 任何都可以入境居住 這樣的國家並不多 問題不在於改造基因有何是非對錯 只站在調整者的立場 或是自然人的立場來看待彼此 這種思想只會造成更多的紛爭 卡佳里是自然人，煌是調整者 這些都不是他們自己所能選擇 只是一項事實罷了
198.大西洋聯邦 把所有調整者當成壞人、敵人 並加以攻擊 他們的這種作法我實在無法贊同
199.這些人到底是為了誰 為了什麼而投入戰爭的呀?
200.當然，就連我國也不是一切都那麼地順利 但若因此就放棄的話 我們就真的只剩互相毀滅對方一途了 等真的走到那一步再來後悔 就已經太遲了
201.難道說因為敵視是世界主流 我們就該默默接受這一切?
202.要選擇走哪一條路是你們的自由
203.你們還很年輕有才華 希望你們可以看清楚 自己真心想要的未來，你們還有時間
204.劍恐怕不再是個擺著好看的裝飾品了
205.殺死無法反抗的敵人有什麼意思?
206.我只是做自己辦得到的事 跟自己想做的事
zaft is always cheating
This world is falling apart