I’m Sámi and the sun wheel represents Beaivi. In Sámi culture, Beaivi is the Godess of the Sun, spring and sanity and is symbolized by the sun wheel. The sun wheel represents the fertility of plants and animals, and thus of flourishing life, reproduction, health and wealth.
@@sarahgilbert8036 They were obviously in close proximity to one another, but they come from quite different routes, so it is interesting to see this possible connection
It is well known from comparative Indo-European mythology that a horse or a chariot led by horses is a symbol of the sun. Not just in mythic contexts like you say - in India the horse is specifically said to be the sun in the Ashvamedha rite. I agree that likening the sun to a wheel indicates an association of the sun with its journey through the sky. I doubt four points represent seasons or equuinoxes since these were not celebrated and the earliest Celtic and Germanic sources show they divided the year in to two not four parts.
also worth noting the symbol shows up in Britain and Ireland over 1000 years before the Tanum carvings and in this context it is always shown in pairs - two golden sun wheels
Thanks for your observations. This symbol is also found in Celtic art, notably within the Celtic cross. I recently read an intriguing book, "The Symbolism of the Celtic Cross" by Derek Bryce, who notes that the very first depiction of Christ on the cross, from the 5th century, shows him on this exact "wheel cross". It has been postulated that incorporating this very ancient symbol into the Celtic monumental crosses (apparently deriving from the original megalithic standing stones) helped make Christian iconography more acceptable to Celtic pagans. I don't know if there are similar sculpted standing crosses in Scandinavia. The wheel cross or sun cross is also seen on top of maypoles, as on the illustration you used with the giant trumpets. May Day is coming! Have a good one!
Finally a fellow bronze age fan :) Actually there are samples of the sunwheel in the iron age, I haven't found it on iron age carvings but in jewelry from the Wielbark culture (considered as the gothic migration into Poland). And about the swastikas, they were already present in the bronze age, in ornaments of swords, daggers and brooches found in Denmark, Sweden and Gotland, where their arms are curved instead of stright and they end in spyrals or animal heads
It also looks like a drum from the reverse side when looking at the handle. The talk of wheels reminded me of spinning yarn. Watching this video is actually the first time I thought that maybe the symbol had more than one meaning, which changes based on the context in which it's used.
Thank you for this very thoughtful video. I have a personal interest in this symbol too. It is intriguing how the sun cross disappeared in Iron Age Scandinavia. I think it survived longer in ancient Armenia and then persisted through the symbology of Constantinian Christianity. I agree with you that the swastika was also a sun cross. I am persuaded that shamanic activity, survival of cataclysms and the fertility of land and people on which our civilization depends, were all associated with the sun cross in ancient Armenia too. (I am writing about this in the sixth volume in my Eden Series.) Anyway, I think you are on target here. Your correlation of the prevalence of the sun cross with cooler periods is very interesting. Thanks again. Peace, Paul
As usual bro your hypothesis is in my opinion pretty spot on. The path of the earth around the sun or vice versa. Having Lakota (Sioux) heritage on my mothers side we know that as a medicine wheel. Depicting the 4 sacred direction which would be prayed to in prayers. Also the four sacred colors which encompassed the whole off mankind (white, black, yellow and red) are the colors associated with them. On my fathers side I’m Norwegian and French so I’m happy to hear that peoples on that side of my heritage used this image in their spirituality also. Tyvm for your video and info bro. Blessings
Just from my amateur observation in the things you've shown it says to me that it's a symbol of motion or ascension. Almost like an arrow symbol. Everything that is in motion the person, the chariot, the sun, is shown with that symbol associated with it.
I agree with your friends assessment. In a lot of native practices it represents the four directions and each of those have a relationship with the seasons of nature and life. It's how we've always used it.
This is why I love this channel. Really great info and you make many connections. Looking forward to subscribing to the Nordic animism channel also. This symbol is universal for sure & are all over the Americas. The very first one you show is used by my tribe, the Caribbean islands tribe the Arawakan peoples. The cross with the circle represented multiple things to different tribes of the Americas. From the four human colors of mankind (black, red, white, & yellow man), to the four kingdoms in nature, the 4 directions, the four worlds & much much more. Ive studied tribal society & archaeology since the 90's and it amazes me how we are all connected culturally, but it's kept out of the mainstream. Many of the so called "maverick" archaeologists aren't much so anymore with many of these discoveries shattering the accepted chronology of history that is taught in our modern society. The internet has connected many people and they've challenged current dogma with their amazing discoveries. Bottom line ancient people WERE in contact period. The isolated Americas from the rest of the world wasn't so isolated. From Canada to Argentina the evidence is abundant. Before Columbus our peoples were in contact and the further back you go there were advances & understandings by our tribal peoples that we still don't have today or have forgotten due to the modern dogmatic & brainwashing systems in place today. But it's all being rediscovered. Like cream in coffee truth always rises to the top. The mass of evidence is there all we need to do is be open minded and search for it. The amount of authors, books, articles, documentaries, & peer review journals are speaking & revealing truths that has been suppressed, misunderstood, and forgotten is numerous. Before I continue writing this scroll I'll end it here. Thank you brother for your thought provoking material. Bo-ma-tum.
Let me throw this one into the pot, the four quarters made me think of the Moon and not the Sun. In the modern world we are more focussed on the Sun calendar but inn older calendars the Moon was at the centre. Indeed the Chinese calendar is lunar based, as was the early Christian and Roman calendar. So maybe it was either a symbol used in an ancient calendar or a device for Lunar worship? I want to add that I have just watched 3 series of Norsemen, a Norwegian comedy set in the Viking ages. It is on Netflix UK and dubbed in English, well worth watching, very hilarious.
The Germanic and Nordic Heathens also used a primarily lunar calendar. Watch some of Robert Sass' vids on this, as he is a practicing historical reconstructionist Saxon Heathen whose primary area of research are the ancient calendars of our Peoples (Saxon, Norse, Anglish, etc.). th-cam.com/video/CU4eDxqU0zU/w-d-xo.html
It truly is and the media taught us to fear that statement, that it was Satanic. It can be observed everywhere. I just think of how the sperm fertilizes the egg and life grows from it just as the rain fertilizes the seed and life grows from it and how our lungs help us to breath and the pathways resemble a tree which gives us air and on and on you can make those connections.
my native american heritage believes it to be the 4 elements fire,wind,rain,earth and there are other symbolic reasons too in other tribes its very interesting to learn that a lot of the animist cultures are very similar to each other as they are on opposite sides of the world
Very interesting. TH-cam recommended your channel because of other vids l have watched. Have subscribed and look forward to catching up on some of your vids. I am interested more in Neolithic and Bronze Age.
The beams in the cross represent the two dimensions 'Being' and 'becoming', while the circle could represent 'non-Being' or 'the All'. The two triangles in the Star of David, Yin and Yang, Sun and Moon, Seed and the Field, all mean the same thing. The cross and a circle with a dot (center-circumference) are essential symbols in the Primordial Tradition as it is the simplest possible representation of the two worlds, the divine biunity.
In Astrology, this symbol is used as the glyph for the Earth. The cross represents cardinal points and the equinoxes and solstices, major moments of the Earth’s relationship with the Sun, which represent the beginning of each season. North is South and East is West. So basically the symbol is used today in its original meaning. North/Summer Solstice is at the bottom because Summer is when we are furthest from the Sun and the night sky we see at that time of year is actually below the galactic equator.
Thank you for sharing your wisdom and knowledge with us. Yes there are similarities and indeed we are all human and all evolved spiritually as well. I appreciate what you share and I look forward to seeing your next video.
When I went to my first class on the Medicine Wheel. The chairs were circled around the wheel. I took a seat. I sat behind the owl. I had no idea that it a type of zodiac and according to Chief Wilson everyone because your spirit knows, sets down behind their own animal . This ties in with the SUN DANCE, self sacrifice, dance and meditation.
You’re comment at the end about cars = sun wheel + global warming + counter clockwise rotation (going forward) really hit me as I was driving home toward the sun looking at the car wheels next to me.
My first inclination as to what it symbolized was the "heart" or "good will", for lack of a better way of conveying it. The use of the symbol as a sun wheel, or/and as a wheel, both the sun and the chariot (being a little creative here lol) could both be seen as needing some spiritual charging in specific situations...whether it was charging the sun in winter, or charging the wheel for speed and structural integrity before battle, thus seeing the symbol around both of the other two symbols. Ok, you just now started talking about bringing the sun back in winter, so maybe I'm on the right track? Have a good day, guys.
I like to believe that this symbol started based on what we needed to know about our world ( 4 seasons within the realm of the sun ) and over time also represented our beliefs as to why our world exists.
In the Cherokee and Navajo systems, it’s a medicine wheel and it represents the four directions which each have an assigned color and entity that controls different aspects of the world. They each have their own sound also. Joseph Ryo wrote a book for five explaining a lot about the medicine wheel.
11:45 you said earlier this looks like a shield but it seems to me very like a chariot. the right side looks like two yoked horses and the two wheels lay alongside the body
Each one of those circular symbols actually have different meanings - but were also used by the Mayas in Mexico and the Creek Indians here in the state of Georgia. I am a Creek Indian, who first became interested in the Bronze Age petroglyphs of Scandinavia while working as a young architect in Landskrona, Sweden. I was puzzled why the Bronze Age peoples of southern Sweden had the same sacred symbols as we Creeks. The circle with a cross inside and four dots means "one full year." However, if this symbol is surrounded by dots, it means "Great Sun" (High King) in Mexico, Georgia and Scandinavia. I also found this symbol carved on boulders on a mountain overlooking Teotihuacan in Central Mexico. I have produced five videos on the petroglyphs of northern Georgia. They are on the People of One Fire TH-cam Channel. I think you will find them interesting. An archaeologist at Lund University in Sweden helped me translate the Bronze Age petroglyphs here in Georgia . . . we have a lot of them. Oh, also that circle cross with dots around it is also one of the petroglyphs here on my property in the Georgia Mountains.
Being from Northeast Alabama, not too far from the Georgia state-line, I'm very interested in that so thank you! I'll check out your videos on that subject. The local area was a village of the Muskokee and we still have many mounds around here. What you write about this symbol reminds me of what my ancestors back in Southern Germany and Celtiberia had, i.e. it was also among the Germanic and Celtic peoples broadly as has been found throughout Europe.
@@seanjobst1985 The Chehaw Mountain area was apparently occupied by the same people, who were here about 3000 years ago. There are very similar stacked stone structures in both regions.
@@peopleofonefire9643 I wonder where the connection is. Somehow our cultures spoke to eachother, or at some point started at the same place. I wonder if our ancestors the Yamnaya from the Russian steppe, had contact with the ancestors of the Native Americans on the Russian steppe. If so that would explain why we have alot of the same symbols. Yamnaya were very similar to the siberian and altai people, using drums, hair braiding, using red ochre, and even their burials were similar. It makes you wonder. Archeologists are starting to theorize we all started in the Russian steppe. Native Americans went east across the bering straight, and European tribes went west. I don't know just a thought.
@@peopleofonefire9643 I grew up in the shadow of Mount Cheaha and hike there at least a few times each year. Not only is there the mound in my hometown (Oxford), unfortunately mostly destroyed for consumerist purposes (despite the protests of myself and others in 2009/2010), as well as a reconstructed one at Choccolocco, but within just the last decade they've uncovered many more scattered in the forests going from Cheaha, towards Oxford, and up to McClellan and Jacksonville. Not surprising, the local university with its Establishment historians/archaeologists rushed to control these sites. I want to check some out though and see for myself. As you said, the mound in Oxford and the reconstructed one in Choccolocco indeed looks like the same exact culture as the mounds I saw at Etowah and Ocmulgee. The local plaques say this area was inhabited by a people called the Abihta who later became part of the Creek Confederacy, and that the original one at Choccolocco was lost to a flood. But this is what the city officials and their Establishment historians/archaeologists say, so I'd rather verify it with authentic Creek people like yourself. When I was first getting interested in these mounds in 2009, I did some research and the name "Ulibahali" came up in some historical accounts as the name for the local village between the primary mound and the creek. One thing I know from studying my own heritage back in Europe is how the government/academia/corporate nexus hates to admit just how old our mounds and other sites were because it goes against their official narrative and they want to present our Celtic, Germanic, and Iberian tribes as "savages" who couldn't have possibly built such elaborate sites. Much like they've done against your people. Yet, folklore, folk traditions, and origin myths keep being vindicated despite all their corrupt efforts to manipulate the records.
in alchemy its the symbol of earth, as element and also earth as a whole. As a wheel its highly metaphysical, the axis the central point of the wheel is a not moving/constant, while the rest is in constant motion/change, which symbolices the all, the one not namable behind all form and phenomena is the basis and central point, the rest means all expirience is constant changing form, so search for the thing which isnt a thing but the basis of every expirience, the real you, never born, never dieing, never changing, the one and only transmigrant
I remember my uncle showed me something about being this carved into the arm (I think) of women during child birth. I can't remember if it was always or only difficult births it was so long ago. I wish he was still here so I could ask him. Our history was his passion for about 60 years. He used the symbol in some of his paintings.
@@alianna8806 carved with a knife but not necessarily for the purpose of scarification, more the immediate effect. Danish iron age/ Viking age culture. It continued into the Christian era and slowly faded out along with most pagan practices. I think to connect to and gain strength or protection from the disr.
Thank you for this video. There are things that you cannot explain and the way that you elaborate around our pagan roots and beliefs resonates in me although my life is far from that of our ancestors. The sun wheel in particular possess a power that I find has to do with strength, inevitably, fate and discipline and I use it daily to ground me in those values. Sympathetic magic (a term I learned here) still plays a part in many peoples lives.
and btw its skoll/sköll who chases the sun, but there are three wolves mentioned chasing sol and máni ; skoll, hati and månegarm (literally means moon eater or moon hound depending on sources) But this is presumed to be an alternate name for hati or even in some cases sköll but since it is the moon it chases it must be hati. as sköll chases the sun ;) it may even be another wolf/wargr entirely. According to Snorri, Hati's mother is the giantess, not named but mentioned in the Eddic poem "Völuspá", who dwells to the east of Midgard in the forest of Járnviðr ("Ironwood") and "fosters Fenrir's kin". Snorri states that this giantess and witch bears many giants for sons, all in the form of wolves, including Hati and Sköll, who is thus implied to be Hati's brother. In two verses of "Völuspá" that Snorri cites, an unnamed son of this giantess is prophesied to snatch the moon, and also eat the flesh of the dead, spattering the heavens with blood. In contrast the Eddic poem "Vafþrúðnismál" states that Fenrir himself will destroy the sun.
Some say that one aspect of the symbol is a shamanic #drum containing/associating with the four directions North, East, West and South. There is drums all over the world with a handle looking like a cross.
In the town of Sweden where i grew up as a kid. They have the largest collection of petroglyphs ( hällristningar ) All located around this one place on the countryside. They are awesome.
In the Hindu Vedic tradition, the svastika (svasti=blessing) is the representation of the Sapta Rishi worlds (Big Dipper/Ursa Major=Great Mother Bear) that revolve around Dhruvaloka/Prapanchika Vaikuntha (the Polar Star), the only non-moving heavenly body in our universe. in previous ages the Polar Star was different from the current one, but still it was revolved around by a constellation taking the same name and symbols. At a microcosmic level, it represents the intermediate human dimension also called Dharma kshetra or Karma khsetra, and its importance in supporting the universe.
I've been recently getting into ancient history and how it is related . and our ancestors were way more advanced than we are today so maybe that knowledge was passed down over time and made it to them before getting lost again.
I think that because Indo-Europeans were already very familiar with the wheel as a tool for movement, the association with all kinds of celestial bodies that traveled across the skies was only natural. +It is also likely that they noticed that whenever there were groups of people together, using wheels to get around and thus, having lots of animals around, the places there inhabited under these conditions were way warmer than those that weren't.
@@Survivethejive My statement applies to all peoples with access to the wheel who then, probably developed similar symbols with similar purposes. Western African tribes with no previous contact with Europe having symbols like these is a testament to this. But I was talking specifically about IE :)
One thing I am wondering about with the "Sun Wheel" and the Swastika is if they are one in the same or other wise closely related, I have seen both made with either four or eight spokes, and if you take a Swastika and close off the ends it becomes a "Sun Wheel" also from my understanding the Swastika is often times associated with the sky, and plenty of them have been found on bird like figures at least in Europe possibly hinting at this, also I believe a figure of either Thor or Tyr was found with a Swastika on it from over a thousand years ago, and both Gods are associated with the Sky if I am not mistaken. So it could be that the "Sun Wheel" didn't fall out of use after the Bronze age but changed into the Swastika in the later periods, or that version of the "Sun Wheel" if they are the same lived on for longer. As for it's meaning I am not sure, the points you make do make a lot of since also perhaps it can also represent the four seasons, which also would kinda tie it into the Sun again, due to the Sun being at a different location in each and affecting each, if the Ancients where aware of how the Sun affected the seasons or not I cannot say if they did know if it had any affect or not, I can only guess. Perhaps it could even represent North, South, East and West or some version of it as well but who knows.
In Vedic culture (ancient version of Hinduism), the "swastika" represents the four directions (North/South/East/West), and also the 4 heads of Lord Brahma, the god of creation. Also: Our ancient Heathen ancestors did not have 4 seasons. They had two, as recorded in the Eddas and sagas. Their lunisolar calendar went by Winter and Summer only. Spring and Fall are modern additions and not native to our Germanic culture. Check out Robert Sass' vids on the ancient Heathen calendar. He supports all of his finds with multiple references from the historical records. th-cam.com/video/CU4eDxqU0zU/w-d-xo.html
@@audhumbla6927 Again hopefully youtube lets you see this reply, but here is the link to where I found out about the Bird figures among other stuff, in this video the guy does I believe reference the finds and sources and I do believe it also shows the Thor figure in which I linked before if you where able to see it. th-cam.com/video/6Bk46fUvrBM/w-d-xo.html
You mustn’t have heard of Crichton Miller or his book; The Golden Thread of Time. The sun wheel within the Celtic cross is a very practical, very useful item for the purpose of navigation.
At the beginning of this video an image of the sunwheel faded out, and it was striking how it resembled what was it left, the Norwegian flag. Likely, to only coincidence, but noted, nonetheless. @0:19
1:31 honestly cannot stop thinking of the X-MEN if you just pause for a moment i know i know i love my X-people a bit too much XD hey have you seen the STALHRIM SHIELD from TES 5 SKYRIM? i pretty sure Bethesda got inspiration from the Sun/Cross
You definitely should read Roy Wilson's Medicine Wheel! Also Black Elk Speaks. The Sun Wheel, if it is a Medicine Wheel Has a infinite amount of information surrounding it. Every tribe has different stories. It's used to teach many things. Also used as a wheel of 6 directions using up and down.
The explanation given in "Baltic writings and symbols" by Valdis Celms (sorry, only available in Latvian or Lithuanian) is that it is an all compassing symbol that symbolizes the continuation of things changing in a cyclical (or spiral) motion, thus the continuation of time. So I think that all observations given in the video as well as the ones from different cultures pretty much are examples of time passing in a cyclical motion, always changing an repeating at the same time.
it looks like the reflection the sun makes sometimes (sphere and cross) though usually it´s more complicated than that (there´s smaller rays between the longer ones). they probably had a hand held symbol that imitated the reflection (in which the cross might have been the handle, sort of like in the shaman drums). a similar symbol is at the center of many sami witch drums (while others don´t have it at all, i guess the sun was not the center for everyone). the sami also made rings out of birch twigs and stone circles (both connected to sun worship). in my personal practice i always try to get around the sun, yet it is the sun that manages to get around me (thus she is more powerful, which revolves around which, if you stay put then it the sun that moves). also interesting that often only three directions named for the sun (because the sun doesn´t go to the north, except maybe to rest). elsewhere they had so many named directions (probably actual sun worshippers vs. others, the same division in all the cults).
Maybe it's a Chladni pattern? All frequencies of sound create specific patterns on the material they are vibrating. One of the lower frequencies creates this quadrilateral pattern. Perhaps this frequency had a significant meaning, like the frequency of the earth energy lines.
In Native American symbolism it represents the Earth and the cross represents the Four Corners of the Earth. At times there are colors in the quadrants. In more recent times some have said that the red, white, black and yellow colors are the races of men..... but my teachers have said it represents the energies of the Earth itself.
The wheel, across the world, has so many symbolic layers that pinning a single meaning to it seems impossible - although these explainations are not invalid. Even within the I.E. tradition, I think that it has numerous meanings in different contexts. The only common denominator that I might suggest is the cyclical nature of reality.
Cherokee Medicine wheel represents a few things. The cyclical nature of the natural world and the 4 directions. Each tribe will equate different directions to important foods, medicines and herbs (location based)
I'm from Westrogothland, and the symbol at 2.22 is the Phrygian scale, or Egyptian scale. It is known by many names, and was used by merchants in the old days with a high degree of certainty. So it's ancient music.
The reflection in the blue light spot on your screen when pointing your phone at the sun and taking a picture, if you zoom in you can see the solar cross for some strange reason, the moon also does this but it reflects its surface upside down and back to front.
Variations of this did continue to be used into the Iron Age, with a lot still made of bronze. Aside from that, it might tie into a similar idea to some artistic depictions of the Hindu cosmology and cycle of samsara (the stokes possibly being directions). It certainly would add a parallel between the rebirth cycle that you mentioned.
There’s all a lot of archeological finds to suggest that Bronze Age cultures were a lot more seafaring and connected than we previously thought. At least in the Mediterranean and the Atlantic coastal waters.
A chariot wheel could also represent active awareness, or presence in the moment. The ancient phoenecians called this metis and it is directly compared to 'the awareness needed to ride a chariot'
Are most of these symbols found in areas with four seasons? Also do these have similar timelines with cup and ring? One more lol... Possible Iron Age adjustment of design to the spirals? (Like the horse broach design changes with Roman influence) My leaning towards thoughts are moon representatives . Sailing trade importance with tides and seasons, Also navigation (day you only know north south east west general direction & night sailing has moe navigation focal points giving a better course) Farming (sowing,harvesting,breeding etc) & obviously they’re tied in with religion but must have been an everyday practicality use as well because very little evidence of frequent idle lifestyle exists. This is so not a message board conversation lol. I could spend days in discussion about this. It’s fascinating
A wheel traveling clockwise is also traveling anti clockwise at the same time… think of the front wheel on a motorcycle or bicycle. The sun is the same on both sides as the wheel. So I guess it all just comes down to perspective.
8:51 many ancient cultures show similarities so I think if you disregard the details, the main symbology is based on the same principle. I also noticed that many sun wheels are depicted in combination with ships… some stones even depict ships where the sun wheel is where the sail should be….. I think it also could represent a form of cosmological journey or travel. And no… no space travel or aliens bulls!t… but more a symbol of spiritual and mental development. …. Just a theory 😅
I think its interesting that many ancient cultures all have some fear of the sun not existing anymore and a cultural reverence for the seasons . I know for me no having seasons much in the Greater phoenix/ mesa arizona area was unnerving as there was only a hot season , a short rainy season and a small cool season.
I’m Sámi and the sun wheel represents Beaivi. In Sámi culture, Beaivi is the Godess of the Sun, spring and sanity and is symbolized by the sun wheel. The sun wheel represents the fertility of plants and animals, and thus of flourishing life, reproduction, health and wealth.
And with the close connections between the old Norse and Samí, I would think there was a similar symbolism use as well.
Thank you for this, I know it as Sámi as well.
@@sarahgilbert8036 They were obviously in close proximity to one another, but they come from quite different routes, so it is interesting to see this possible connection
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Same in Swedish magic tradition, which was tremendously influenced by the Sámi. I love Rune Rasmussen. Great guy.
In Lakota culture it is known as the medicine wheel. The more I watch these videos it’s amazing the similarities between our culture and yours.
Take away names and locations and you'll find at 95% of the stories from around the world sound very similar
haplogroup x comparisons. some vids i have seen recently show that algonquins and eurasians have ancestral connection through it.
It is well known from comparative Indo-European mythology that a horse or a chariot led by horses is a symbol of the sun. Not just in mythic contexts like you say - in India the horse is specifically said to be the sun in the Ashvamedha rite. I agree that likening the sun to a wheel indicates an association of the sun with its journey through the sky. I doubt four points represent seasons or equuinoxes since these were not celebrated and the earliest Celtic and Germanic sources show they divided the year in to two not four parts.
also worth noting the symbol shows up in Britain and Ireland over 1000 years before the Tanum carvings and in this context it is always shown in pairs - two golden sun wheels
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There you are lmao. I was waiting to see how long it'd take you to find this channel XD
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The Bronze Age was a very busy and well organized time across great distances!
Defiantly could have been connected through trade
Thanks for your observations. This symbol is also found in Celtic art, notably within the Celtic cross. I recently read an intriguing book, "The Symbolism of the Celtic Cross" by Derek Bryce, who notes that the very first depiction of Christ on the cross, from the 5th century, shows him on this exact "wheel cross". It has been postulated that incorporating this very ancient symbol into the Celtic monumental crosses (apparently deriving from the original megalithic standing stones) helped make Christian iconography more acceptable to Celtic pagans. I don't know if there are similar sculpted standing crosses in Scandinavia. The wheel cross or sun cross is also seen on top of maypoles, as on the illustration you used with the giant trumpets. May Day is coming! Have a good one!
Finally a fellow bronze age fan :) Actually there are samples of the sunwheel in the iron age, I haven't found it on iron age carvings but in jewelry from the Wielbark culture (considered as the gothic migration into Poland). And about the swastikas, they were already present in the bronze age, in ornaments of swords, daggers and brooches found in Denmark, Sweden and Gotland, where their arms are curved instead of stright and they end in spyrals or animal heads
Yeah, I have seen a lot of extent cross pendants from the area as well, both before and after Christianization efforts.
It also looks like a drum from the reverse side when looking at the handle. The talk of wheels reminded me of spinning yarn. Watching this video is actually the first time I thought that maybe the symbol had more than one meaning, which changes based on the context in which it's used.
Thank you for this very thoughtful video. I have a personal interest in this symbol too. It is intriguing how the sun cross disappeared in Iron Age Scandinavia. I think it survived longer in ancient Armenia and then persisted through the symbology of Constantinian Christianity. I agree with you that the swastika was also a sun cross. I am persuaded that shamanic activity, survival of cataclysms and the fertility of land and people on which our civilization depends, were all associated with the sun cross in ancient Armenia too. (I am writing about this in the sixth volume in my Eden Series.) Anyway, I think you are on target here. Your correlation of the prevalence of the sun cross with cooler periods is very interesting. Thanks again. Peace, Paul
I am so happy to see you are watching this great channel Paul! Love both of your work.
As a swede I agree on bronze age being the glory days
lol i knew it was your comment before i even looked at ur profile
As usual bro your hypothesis is in my opinion pretty spot on. The path of the earth around the sun or vice versa. Having Lakota (Sioux) heritage on my mothers side we know that as a medicine wheel. Depicting the 4 sacred direction which would be prayed to in prayers. Also the four sacred colors which encompassed the whole off mankind (white, black, yellow and red) are the colors associated with them. On my fathers side I’m Norwegian and French so I’m happy to hear that peoples on that side of my heritage used this image in their spirituality also. Tyvm for your video and info bro. Blessings
Just from my amateur observation in the things you've shown it says to me that it's a symbol of motion or ascension. Almost like an arrow symbol. Everything that is in motion the person, the chariot, the sun, is shown with that symbol associated with it.
I agree with your friends assessment. In a lot of native practices it represents the four directions and each of those have a relationship with the seasons of nature and life. It's how we've always used it.
This is why I love this channel. Really great info and you make many connections. Looking forward to subscribing to the Nordic animism channel also.
This symbol is universal for sure & are all over the Americas. The very first one you show is used by my tribe, the Caribbean islands tribe the Arawakan peoples. The cross with the circle represented multiple things to different tribes of the Americas. From the four human colors of mankind (black, red, white, & yellow man), to the four kingdoms in nature, the 4 directions, the four worlds & much much more.
Ive studied tribal society & archaeology since the 90's and it amazes me how we are all connected culturally, but it's kept out of the mainstream. Many of the so called "maverick" archaeologists aren't much so anymore with many of these discoveries shattering the accepted chronology of history that is taught in our modern society. The internet has connected many people and they've challenged current dogma with their amazing discoveries. Bottom line ancient people WERE in contact period. The isolated Americas from the rest of the world wasn't so isolated. From Canada to Argentina the evidence is abundant.
Before Columbus our peoples were in contact and the further back you go there were advances & understandings by our tribal peoples that we still don't have today or have forgotten due to the modern dogmatic & brainwashing systems in place today. But it's all being rediscovered. Like cream in coffee truth always rises to the top. The mass of evidence is there all we need to do is be open minded and search for it. The amount of authors, books, articles, documentaries, & peer review journals are speaking & revealing truths that has been suppressed, misunderstood, and forgotten is numerous.
Before I continue writing this scroll I'll end it here. Thank you brother for your thought provoking material. Bo-ma-tum.
Let me throw this one into the pot, the four quarters made me think of the Moon and not the Sun. In the modern world we are more focussed on the Sun calendar but inn older calendars the Moon was at the centre. Indeed the Chinese calendar is lunar based, as was the early Christian and Roman calendar. So maybe it was either a symbol used in an ancient calendar or a device for Lunar worship?
I want to add that I have just watched 3 series of Norsemen, a Norwegian comedy set in the Viking ages. It is on Netflix UK and dubbed in English, well worth watching, very hilarious.
The Germanic and Nordic Heathens also used a primarily lunar calendar. Watch some of Robert Sass' vids on this, as he is a practicing historical reconstructionist Saxon Heathen whose primary area of research are the ancient calendars of our Peoples (Saxon, Norse, Anglish, etc.). th-cam.com/video/CU4eDxqU0zU/w-d-xo.html
I had this thought to about the moon .. I love watching the phases of the moon as I used to work many night shifts from 5pm to 2am
The moon is shown at :07 in his other hand.
I just want to say that i love listening to you and your thoughts. You have a beautiful mind. Thank you for your content.
“As Above Is So Below.” I completely agree with your take on this sun wheel.
It truly is and the media taught us to fear that statement, that it was Satanic. It can be observed everywhere. I just think of how the sperm fertilizes the egg and life grows from it just as the rain fertilizes the seed and life grows from it and how our lungs help us to breath and the pathways resemble a tree which gives us air and on and on you can make those connections.
my native american heritage believes it to be the 4 elements fire,wind,rain,earth and there are other symbolic reasons too in other tribes its very interesting to learn that a lot of the animist cultures are very similar to each other as they are on opposite sides of the world
Very interesting. TH-cam recommended your channel because of other vids l have watched. Have subscribed and look forward to catching up on some of your vids. I am interested more in Neolithic and Bronze Age.
The beams in the cross represent the two dimensions 'Being' and 'becoming', while the circle could represent 'non-Being' or 'the All'. The two triangles in the Star of David, Yin and Yang, Sun and Moon, Seed and the Field, all mean the same thing. The cross and a circle with a dot (center-circumference) are essential symbols in the Primordial Tradition as it is the simplest possible representation of the two worlds, the divine biunity.
Great Video thank you so much please keep up the amazing work
In Astrology, this symbol is used as the glyph for the Earth. The cross represents cardinal points and the equinoxes and solstices, major moments of the Earth’s relationship with the Sun, which represent the beginning of each season. North is South and East is West. So basically the symbol is used today in its original meaning. North/Summer Solstice is at the bottom because Summer is when we are furthest from the Sun and the night sky we see at that time of year is actually below the galactic equator.
Thank you for sharing your wisdom and knowledge with us. Yes there are similarities and indeed we are all human and all evolved spiritually as well. I appreciate what you share and I look forward to seeing your next video.
When I went to my first class on the Medicine Wheel. The chairs were circled around the wheel. I took a seat. I sat behind the owl. I had no idea that it a type of zodiac
and according to Chief Wilson everyone because your spirit knows, sets down behind their own animal .
This ties in with the SUN DANCE, self sacrifice, dance and meditation.
Brilliant, Mike, I've learnt so much from your humble self, you have my gratitude.
Very good presentation, and your philosophy is appreciated as is your open mind.
You’re comment at the end about cars = sun wheel + global warming + counter clockwise rotation (going forward) really hit me as I was driving home toward the sun looking at the car wheels next to me.
Another great video, I appreciate your teachings immensely, thanks for sharing 👍
My first inclination as to what it symbolized was the "heart" or "good will", for lack of a better way of conveying it. The use of the symbol as a sun wheel, or/and as a wheel, both the sun and the chariot (being a little creative here lol) could both be seen as needing some spiritual charging in specific situations...whether it was charging the sun in winter, or charging the wheel for speed and structural integrity before battle, thus seeing the symbol around both of the other two symbols. Ok, you just now started talking about bringing the sun back in winter, so maybe I'm on the right track? Have a good day, guys.
Yes! I’ve been waiting for you to cover this. Thank you, I really enjoyed this video.
Thank you for clarifying the facts! And that sometimes we simply don't have a written record to tell us the facts!
I like to believe that this symbol started based on what we needed to know about our world ( 4 seasons within the realm of the sun ) and over time also represented our beliefs as to why our world exists.
In the Cherokee and Navajo systems, it’s a medicine wheel and it represents the four directions which each have an assigned color and entity that controls different aspects of the world. They each have their own sound also. Joseph Ryo wrote a book for five explaining a lot about the medicine wheel.
Joseph Rael wrote the book called being and vibrations, and another one called sound
Excellent historical analysis
11:45 you said earlier this looks like a shield but it seems to me very like a chariot. the right side looks like two yoked horses and the two wheels lay alongside the body
Each one of those circular symbols actually have different meanings - but were also used by the Mayas in Mexico and the Creek Indians here in the state of Georgia. I am a Creek Indian, who first became interested in the Bronze Age petroglyphs of Scandinavia while working as a young architect in Landskrona, Sweden. I was puzzled why the Bronze Age peoples of southern Sweden had the same sacred symbols as we Creeks. The circle with a cross inside and four dots means "one full year." However, if this symbol is surrounded by dots, it means "Great Sun" (High King) in Mexico, Georgia and Scandinavia. I also found this symbol carved on boulders on a mountain overlooking Teotihuacan in Central Mexico. I have produced five videos on the petroglyphs of northern Georgia. They are on the People of One Fire TH-cam Channel. I think you will find them interesting. An archaeologist at Lund University in Sweden helped me translate the Bronze Age petroglyphs here in Georgia . . . we have a lot of them. Oh, also that circle cross with dots around it is also one of the petroglyphs here on my property in the Georgia Mountains.
Being from Northeast Alabama, not too far from the Georgia state-line, I'm very interested in that so thank you! I'll check out your videos on that subject. The local area was a village of the Muskokee and we still have many mounds around here. What you write about this symbol reminds me of what my ancestors back in Southern Germany and Celtiberia had, i.e. it was also among the Germanic and Celtic peoples broadly as has been found throughout Europe.
@@seanjobst1985 The Chehaw Mountain area was apparently occupied by the same people, who were here about 3000 years ago. There are very similar stacked stone structures in both regions.
@@peopleofonefire9643 I wonder where the connection is. Somehow our cultures spoke to eachother, or at some point started at the same place. I wonder if our ancestors the Yamnaya from the Russian steppe, had contact with the ancestors of the Native Americans on the Russian steppe. If so that would explain why we have alot of the same symbols. Yamnaya were very similar to the siberian and altai people, using drums, hair braiding, using red ochre, and even their burials were similar. It makes you wonder. Archeologists are starting to theorize we all started in the Russian steppe. Native Americans went east across the bering straight, and European tribes went west. I don't know just a thought.
@@Thekoryosmenstribepodcast The Bronze Age Scandinavians came here to mine gold and gems. The Georgia Mountains have the purest gold in the world.
@@peopleofonefire9643 I grew up in the shadow of Mount Cheaha and hike there at least a few times each year. Not only is there the mound in my hometown (Oxford), unfortunately mostly destroyed for consumerist purposes (despite the protests of myself and others in 2009/2010), as well as a reconstructed one at Choccolocco, but within just the last decade they've uncovered many more scattered in the forests going from Cheaha, towards Oxford, and up to McClellan and Jacksonville. Not surprising, the local university with its Establishment historians/archaeologists rushed to control these sites. I want to check some out though and see for myself. As you said, the mound in Oxford and the reconstructed one in Choccolocco indeed looks like the same exact culture as the mounds I saw at Etowah and Ocmulgee.
The local plaques say this area was inhabited by a people called the Abihta who later became part of the Creek Confederacy, and that the original one at Choccolocco was lost to a flood. But this is what the city officials and their Establishment historians/archaeologists say, so I'd rather verify it with authentic Creek people like yourself. When I was first getting interested in these mounds in 2009, I did some research and the name "Ulibahali" came up in some historical accounts as the name for the local village between the primary mound and the creek. One thing I know from studying my own heritage back in Europe is how the government/academia/corporate nexus hates to admit just how old our mounds and other sites were because it goes against their official narrative and they want to present our Celtic, Germanic, and Iberian tribes as "savages" who couldn't have possibly built such elaborate sites. Much like they've done against your people. Yet, folklore, folk traditions, and origin myths keep being vindicated despite all their corrupt efforts to manipulate the records.
Thank you for your work. I'm enjoying it greatly.
in alchemy its the symbol of earth, as element and also earth as a whole. As a wheel its highly metaphysical, the axis the central point of the wheel is a not moving/constant, while the rest is in constant motion/change, which symbolices the all, the one not namable behind all form and phenomena is the basis and central point, the rest means all expirience is constant changing form, so search for the thing which isnt a thing but the basis of every expirience, the real you, never born, never dieing, never changing, the one and only transmigrant
Recognition that you are that unmoving source, experiencing all that motion.
I remember my uncle showed me something about being this carved into the arm (I think) of women during child birth. I can't remember if it was always or only difficult births it was so long ago. I wish he was still here so I could ask him. Our history was his passion for about 60 years. He used the symbol in some of his paintings.
Carved as in scarification, or painted? Which culture?
@@alianna8806 carved with a knife but not necessarily for the purpose of scarification, more the immediate effect. Danish iron age/ Viking age culture. It continued into the Christian era and slowly faded out along with most pagan practices. I think to connect to and gain strength or protection from the disr.
Thank you for this video. There are things that you cannot explain and the way that you elaborate around our pagan roots and beliefs resonates in me although my life is far from that of our ancestors. The sun wheel in particular possess a power that I find has to do with strength, inevitably, fate and discipline and I use it daily to ground me in those values. Sympathetic magic (a term I learned here) still plays a part in many peoples lives.
and btw its skoll/sköll who chases the sun, but there are three wolves mentioned chasing sol and máni ; skoll, hati and månegarm (literally means moon eater or moon hound depending on sources) But this is presumed to be an alternate name for hati or even in some cases sköll but since it is the moon it chases it must be hati. as sköll chases the sun ;) it may even be another wolf/wargr entirely.
According to Snorri, Hati's mother is the giantess, not named but mentioned in the Eddic poem "Völuspá", who dwells to the east of Midgard in the forest of Járnviðr ("Ironwood") and "fosters Fenrir's kin". Snorri states that this giantess and witch bears many giants for sons, all in the form of wolves, including Hati and Sköll, who is thus implied to be Hati's brother. In two verses of "Völuspá" that Snorri cites, an unnamed son of this giantess is prophesied to snatch the moon, and also eat the flesh of the dead, spattering the heavens with blood. In contrast the Eddic poem "Vafþrúðnismál" states that Fenrir himself will destroy the sun.
Love your videos. Just stumbled upon them
Another great video with facts and knowledge. Keep it up
Some say that one aspect of the symbol is a shamanic #drum containing/associating with the four directions North, East, West and South. There is drums all over the world with a handle looking like a cross.
I would like to hear more about the svastika! It was such a popular symbol in many places around the world before ww2!
Carved on the magical belt of the Great Thunder God Himself.
Another great video, keep spreading your wisdom brother so people can see the real truth. Skal
Thank you
It looks like a great way to keep track of time.
Really good video. Thanks for all of your research and time.
In the town of Sweden where i grew up as a kid. They have the largest collection of petroglyphs ( hällristningar ) All located around this one place on the countryside. They are awesome.
Where?
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In the Hindu Vedic tradition, the svastika (svasti=blessing) is the representation of the Sapta Rishi worlds (Big Dipper/Ursa Major=Great Mother Bear) that revolve around Dhruvaloka/Prapanchika Vaikuntha (the Polar Star), the only non-moving heavenly body in our universe. in previous ages the Polar Star was different from the current one, but still it was revolved around by a constellation taking the same name and symbols.
At a microcosmic level, it represents the intermediate human dimension also called Dharma kshetra or Karma khsetra, and its importance in supporting the universe.
I've been recently getting into ancient history and how it is related . and our ancestors were way more advanced than we are today so maybe that knowledge was passed down over time and made it to them before getting lost again.
I think that because Indo-Europeans were already very familiar with the wheel as a tool for movement, the association with all kinds of celestial bodies that traveled across the skies was only natural. +It is also likely that they noticed that whenever there were groups of people together, using wheels to get around and thus, having lots of animals around, the places there inhabited under these conditions were way warmer than those that weren't.
There were wheels in Germany and Scandinavia even before the Indo-Europeans arrived
@@Survivethejive My statement applies to all peoples with access to the wheel who then, probably developed similar symbols with similar purposes. Western African tribes with no previous contact with Europe having symbols like these is a testament to this. But I was talking specifically about IE :)
One thing I am wondering about with the "Sun Wheel" and the Swastika is if they are one in the same or other wise closely related, I have seen both made with either four or eight spokes, and if you take a Swastika and close off the ends it becomes a "Sun Wheel" also from my understanding the Swastika is often times associated with the sky, and plenty of them have been found on bird like figures at least in Europe possibly hinting at this, also I believe a figure of either Thor or Tyr was found with a Swastika on it from over a thousand years ago, and both Gods are associated with the Sky if I am not mistaken. So it could be that the "Sun Wheel" didn't fall out of use after the Bronze age but changed into the Swastika in the later periods, or that version of the "Sun Wheel" if they are the same lived on for longer.
As for it's meaning I am not sure, the points you make do make a lot of since also perhaps it can also represent the four seasons, which also would kinda tie it into the Sun again, due to the Sun being at a different location in each and affecting each, if the Ancients where aware of how the Sun affected the seasons or not I cannot say if they did know if it had any affect or not, I can only guess. Perhaps it could even represent North, South, East and West or some version of it as well but who knows.
please share source to that Tor or Tyr figure, sounds very unlikely
and the bird figures? where?
In Vedic culture (ancient version of Hinduism), the "swastika" represents the four directions (North/South/East/West), and also the 4 heads of Lord Brahma, the god of creation. Also: Our ancient Heathen ancestors did not have 4 seasons. They had two, as recorded in the Eddas and sagas. Their lunisolar calendar went by Winter and Summer only. Spring and Fall are modern additions and not native to our Germanic culture. Check out Robert Sass' vids on the ancient Heathen calendar. He supports all of his finds with multiple references from the historical records. th-cam.com/video/CU4eDxqU0zU/w-d-xo.html
@@audhumbla6927 Again hopefully youtube lets you see this reply, but here is the link to where I found out about the Bird figures among other stuff, in this video the guy does I believe reference the finds and sources and I do believe it also shows the Thor figure in which I linked before if you where able to see it. th-cam.com/video/6Bk46fUvrBM/w-d-xo.html
@@HroduuulfSonOfHrodger Thanks for the Info, ill have to watch it later.
You mustn’t have heard of Crichton Miller or his book; The Golden Thread of Time. The sun wheel within the Celtic cross is a very practical, very useful item for the purpose of navigation.
I think it was a symbol of navigation with each dot representing a direction or way to determine direction for travel
What if the sunwheel is a shaman drum
At the beginning of this video an image of the sunwheel faded out, and it was striking how it resembled what was it left, the Norwegian flag. Likely, to only coincidence, but noted, nonetheless. @0:19
Very fascinating, thank you. 🙂
The sun wheel looks awesome
I love the Nordic Bronze Age. It's tragically underrated. That bronzelur though 👌🏻
Seen it in meditation. It was green and white with beautiful details in the quadrants. As i warched it it began to quickly rotate before i lost it.
1:31 honestly cannot stop thinking of the X-MEN if you just pause for a moment
i know i know i love my X-people a bit too much XD
hey have you seen the STALHRIM SHIELD from TES 5 SKYRIM?
i pretty sure Bethesda got inspiration from the Sun/Cross
I've heard it corresponds to the 4 corners/cardinal points.
Always get some food for thought here :) thank you.
You definitely should read Roy Wilson's Medicine Wheel! Also Black Elk Speaks.
The Sun Wheel, if it is a Medicine Wheel
Has a infinite amount of information surrounding it. Every tribe has different stories. It's used to teach many things.
Also used as a wheel of 6 directions using up and down.
The explanation given in "Baltic writings and symbols" by Valdis Celms (sorry, only available in Latvian or Lithuanian) is that it is an all compassing symbol that symbolizes the continuation of things changing in a cyclical (or spiral) motion, thus the continuation of time. So I think that all observations given in the video as well as the ones from different cultures pretty much are examples of time passing in a cyclical motion, always changing an repeating at the same time.
I always thought it had to do with the Norns weaving wheel among other things.
it looks like the reflection the sun
makes sometimes (sphere and cross) though
usually it´s more complicated than that
(there´s smaller rays between the longer
ones).
they probably had a hand held symbol that
imitated the reflection (in which the cross
might have been the handle, sort of like in
the shaman drums).
a similar symbol is at the center of many
sami witch drums (while others don´t have
it at all, i guess the sun was not the center
for everyone).
the sami also made rings out of birch twigs
and stone circles (both connected to sun
worship).
in my personal practice i always try to get
around the sun, yet it is the sun that manages
to get around me (thus she is more powerful,
which revolves around which, if you stay
put
then it the sun that moves).
also interesting that often only three
directions named for the sun (because the
sun doesn´t go to the north, except maybe
to rest).
elsewhere they had so many named directions
(probably actual sun worshippers vs. others,
the same
division in all the cults).
Maybe it's a Chladni pattern? All frequencies of sound create specific patterns on the material they are vibrating. One of the lower frequencies creates this quadrilateral pattern. Perhaps this frequency had a significant meaning, like the frequency of the earth energy lines.
There are so many versions online of Nordic Knot, Viking Knot: will you research which one(s) to carry in your shop? Thank you!
In Native American symbolism it represents the Earth and the cross represents the Four Corners of the Earth. At times there are colors in the quadrants. In more recent times some have said that the red, white, black and yellow colors are the races of men..... but my teachers have said it represents the energies of the Earth itself.
Thank you for your comment. I have native American and basically and simply put, this is what I was told as well.
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The wheel, across the world, has so many symbolic layers that pinning a single meaning to it seems impossible - although these explainations are not invalid. Even within the I.E. tradition, I think that it has numerous meanings in different contexts. The only common denominator that I might suggest is the cyclical nature of reality.
Good info. Thanks.
Cherokee Medicine wheel represents a few things. The cyclical nature of the natural world and the 4 directions. Each tribe will equate different directions to important foods, medicines and herbs (location based)
Really injoy your deep knowledge!! I really like to learn more about vikings in freesia hoop you see this 👌 👍
i wonder if some of those symbols are blue prints for stone or wood circles for tracking time with the suns position
Very useful info as always
Also the sun wheel looks like the Big Dipper at 4 different points of the year put together.
You can also find that in Ireland
Let me know when the sun wheel pendant is back in-stock.
i really love those videos u make keep it going u really make it come out interresting thank u for shareing your point with us and facs
Hey, do you have any video or information about tattoos in the viking age? Were these common practice? Thanks!
I'm from Westrogothland, and the symbol at 2.22 is the Phrygian scale, or Egyptian scale. It is known by many names, and was used by merchants in the old days with a high degree of certainty. So it's ancient music.
If you find some authentic Nordic? Viking? Knots, would your shop offer some made of twines?
The reflection in the blue light spot on your screen when pointing your phone at the sun and taking a picture, if you zoom in you can see the solar cross for some strange reason, the moon also does this but it reflects its surface upside down and back to front.
Variations of this did continue to be used into the Iron Age, with a lot still made of bronze.
Aside from that, it might tie into a similar idea to some artistic depictions of the Hindu cosmology and cycle of samsara (the stokes possibly being directions). It certainly would add a parallel between the rebirth cycle that you mentioned.
Have you ever thought of starting a podcast with you talking on your own and/or with other people about this fascinating subjects?
Can you recommend any books on the subject of Bronze Age Scandinavian culture? I'd like to learn more.
There’s all a lot of archeological finds to suggest that Bronze Age cultures were a lot more seafaring and connected than we previously thought. At least in the Mediterranean and the Atlantic coastal waters.
Awsome viedo.. I think it was the symbol or rebirth or reincarnation..
A chariot wheel could also represent active awareness, or presence in the moment. The ancient phoenecians called this metis and it is directly compared to 'the awareness needed to ride a chariot'
Are most of these symbols found in areas with four seasons? Also do these have similar timelines with cup and ring? One more lol... Possible Iron Age adjustment of design to the spirals? (Like the horse broach design changes with Roman influence) My leaning towards thoughts are moon representatives . Sailing trade importance with tides and seasons, Also navigation (day you only know north south east west general direction & night sailing has moe navigation focal points giving a better course) Farming (sowing,harvesting,breeding etc) & obviously they’re tied in with religion but must have been an everyday practicality use as well because very little evidence of frequent idle lifestyle exists. This is so not a message board conversation lol. I could spend days in discussion about this. It’s fascinating
A wonderful ancient symbol, associated with Celtic religion.
There is a saga in Finland called Bock saga, that tells about Ragnarök being ice age. it ties to a myth of Alt-lant-is meaning "All lands ice" :)
Interisting stuff bro.
Why do you ware the Alatyr and what is its meaning according to Your knowledge ? Best regards
A wheel traveling clockwise is also traveling anti clockwise at the same time… think of the front wheel on a motorcycle or bicycle. The sun is the same on both sides as the wheel. So I guess it all just comes down to perspective.
8:51 many ancient cultures show similarities so I think if you disregard the details, the main symbology is based on the same principle. I also noticed that many sun wheels are depicted in combination with ships… some stones even depict ships where the sun wheel is where the sail should be….. I think it also could represent a form of cosmological journey or travel. And no… no space travel or aliens bulls!t… but more a symbol of spiritual and mental development. …. Just a theory 😅
I've got a good question for you? In the saga of Egill Skallagrimssom what was ment when a baby was born with the saying "sprinkled with water"?
I think its interesting that many ancient cultures all have some fear of the sun not existing anymore and a cultural reverence for the seasons . I know for me no having seasons much in the Greater phoenix/ mesa arizona area was unnerving as there was only a hot season , a short rainy season and a small cool season.