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There are many different physical manifestations of The Holy Spirit, most physical manifestations are found in the Bible, and some are not as easily found in scripture.
In this video, you can watch Bethel Senior Leader Bill Johnson and Bethel Associate Pastor and Dean of BSSM Dann Farrelly discuss the physical manifestations of The Holy Spirit. The topics include: being drunk in The Spirit, Holy Laughter, know if it is Holy Spirit or a different spirit, gold dust, glory clouds, and more!
ABOUT REDISCOVER BETHEL
Rediscover Bethel is a video series that addresses common questions and misconceptions about Bethel Church in Redding, California. This series specifically covers Bethel's theological beliefs, teachings, and practices-featuring Senior Leader Bill Johnson, Senior Associate Leader Kris Vallotton, and Associate Pastor and Dean of BSSM Dann Farrelly. This series includes videos on Bible translations, Jesus' Deity, Physical Manifestations of the Holy Spirit, Theology of Healing, The Gospel of Repentance, Prophecy, and much more.
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Bethel Church in Redding, California is a congregation rooted in the love of God and dedicated to worldwide transformation through revival. Our mission is revival - the personal, regional, and global expansion of God's Kingdom through His manifest presence. It's our goal for God's love to be manifest in signs, wonders, and miracles. The atmosphere at Bethel is charged with faith and exuberant joy, which manifests in all we do. We believe we're on the edge of the greatest revival of all time. It's our vision to see history become His-story as the kingdom of this world becomes the kingdom of our God. We welcome you to join us in this adventure!
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"we should be shocked when we don't die when he touches us" - perfectly said
“We should be happy we do not die when the Holy Spirit touch us” !!!!!! 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯That part!
I was baptized in the Holy Spirit to receive my calling. I was praying fervently, in a prayer circle during a revival at my church. A fire rose up through my feet and up my body. I knew I was being touched by the Spirit as it rose to my head and I went blind for a number of seconds (like Saul on the Road to Damascus!). As my vision came back slowly, I removed myself from the group and went to a quiet room to pray alone as I was so grateful. And that is when God gave me my calling, as He said to me He wants me always like this: in fervent prayer for the healing and salvation of others.
It first happened to me when I was alone in prayer and it was powerful. I have had many small humbling's but I had no idea one like this was possible. I had never seen any of these holy spirit meeting videos or seen more than someone breaking out in tongues with a interpretation that I knew was the Lord. I was seeking him in my heart. I do it in worship and he hits me every day with joy unspeakable. I know it's him because I get the download. I get the message and call to serve. Being Holy Spirit filled can make others manifest their demons of they have them.
I am used to experiencing the Lord every day from the minute I wake. He wakes me. He does things so I know it's him making me sing hymns the moment I wake. I wake up with the song in my head. Let teh Lord lead you. He touches you so you will follow him. He is showing you things all the time if you pay attention. Be faithful and trust him when you know it is him. Soon you will never have any doubt when it is or is not. Keep your heart clean and remember Jesus' greatest commandment Mathew 22 34 to 40. If we carry sins like unforgiveness we can not help but walk blind. If we have our resentments for some we deliberately give ourselves permission to disobey the Lord and it's dangerous for us also. If we gossip about the boss or neighbor or our sister in law we make petition ion our hearts against them like a prayer against them. It makes our hearts darkened and the spirits hear us. Salvation is not on works but there are gifts to serve and share his Glory that we can grow and step up into. Seek his holiness.
Ive only recently turned a corner in my walk and Ive begun having head to toe tingling sensations for minutes whilst praying, feeling heat on my skin when it isn't hot at all.... & being "drunk" in the spirit, also having dreams and visions (which last two have been ongoing) I grew up catholic and thought all this was mumbo jumbo... but was still very curious. God showed me a big part of Him & something I can tell others to prepare them and reassure them ! It definitely has been a wild ride🙌🏻👑♥️
When I was 14 I remember praying in my room and I was in a dark place going through stuff at school. I remember I felt this wave of shivers/tingles coursing through my body, I could feel it from my toes moving up to my head and it was like my bones were shivering, it actually hurt and I was overwhelmed by what was happening. I remember I asked God to stop whatever was taking place as my spine felt a shock and it was somehow painful. As I spoke those words the wave of shivers stopped and to this day I am still trying to understand what that meant, whether it was cleansing me from demons or is its just the holy spirit upon me. Either way I am thankful I had this experience because it reaffirmed how much I believe and trust in the Lord. Even in my lifetime when I did go through phases of atheism I could never truly not believe because of what I'd experienced, maybe thats why it happened and happens to others, so that when we do stray from faith we come back to those encounters and remember to trust in the Lord.
Years ago when my brother was dying I went forward for prayer. I remember that my heart was broken and feeling that I had no strength to go on. When those that surrounded me began to pray the power of God washed over me. My tears turned to joyous laughter and my legs felt like rubber. Those that held me up were hit with the same power. I remember my clothing being drenched clear through and being so weak that my husband almost had to carry me back to my seat.
“The church loves tears at the altar but not laughter.” So true, this needs to break.
Do you even know what an alter is ??? it's a place where things die.
I agree, the fact we don’t die when we’re touched by Holy Spirit is a miracle of the cross. God should be allowed to move how he wants to move. Manifestations, miracles, signs and wonders are present in the Bible, present in every awakening recorded in history and during local revival. All those events changed the world and brought salvation. Manifestation or no manifestation “you shall know them by their fruit.” and ultimately by agape love. If love is present, there's the answer. After all isn't Jesus rising from the dead just a tad weird? But we’d be a bit stuffed if he hadn’t.
I love how you describe pastoring during manifestations.
I want to go to your school in California... the Lord has been very good to me as of late, I've seen Lord Jesus twice during visions. Hes shown me an angelic message, as well as showing me my grandparents receiving their crown in heaven. Praise God glory be in the highest!!!! God bless you Bethel church, amen.
He’s always been good to uou
If you get a chance to go to the school do it!! My husband & I met there and we're probably heading back next year🤍
I am in the 3rd year of school. It is amazing! You should definitely come.
Ps. I also met my wife in 1st year of school. hahaha
28 minutes in know he won't let you down if you act in faith in serving him. We can have a vision bigger than what we should expect of our own selves with his help. Many of the revival churches from 40 years ago are still growing strong and I mean growing and spreading across the globe with healings and in some cases thousands saved at a time. Incredible anointing is available for those who are able to step up in faith to serve when called. i know the 3 week wear out after going 1000mph on the spirit alone. I wrote 2 novels in a few days and recorded more sermons than I can go through yet. It's taking me longer to put it all together on the bigger scale but there is everyday service also. He calls my time and I never know what I will be into next when it comes to helping others or giving the gospel to strangers. I don't think these up. He gives me the ideas and a compulsion to go talk to someone so I obey him even when I don't know what to say. I can not take credit for what he has done to my heart but he wants to do it to all of us that we fear the world no more.
I think it also takes humility to receive from the Father. And allowing him to do what he wants. That simple. Childlike.
Psalms 135:6
Whatever the LORD pleases He does, In heaven and in earth, In the seas and in all deep places.
He doesn’t need mankind to allow Him to do anything.
@@T-Wyler That's why we are here...to manifest His glory...not what our brains can approve of. We don't limit God. He limits Himself to His Word. Jesus said "You will do greater works, because I go to the Father."(John 14:12)
Yes! Exactly. Having worked with children for over 40 years, I understand why Jesus encourages us to be "childlike", NOT religious, as the Pharisees.
Had a manifestation of shaking in my recliner one Saturday (actually called my husband to observe). After an hour, it stopped. The next day, it began again, during worship in z church service. The pastor recognized it was Holy Spirit and allowed me to move about in the congregation and impart this manifestation to others. That was several years ago. I haven't ever been used in that way again. It was strange, but very exciting and a true blessing to be used to minister to others. 😁
That actually sounds demonic. It the disciples or Jesus didn’t do it or teach it, I wouldn’t buy it.
@@moname56
Daniel 10:7-11
New Living Translation
7 Only I, Daniel, saw this vision. The men with me saw nothing, but they were suddenly terrified and ran away to hide. So I was left there all alone to see this amazing vision. My strength left me, my face grew deathly pale, and I felt very weak. Then I heard the man speak, and when I heard the sound of his voice, I fainted and lay there with my face to the ground.
10 Just then a hand touched me and lifted me, still trembling, to my hands and knees. And the man said to me, “Daniel, you are very precious to God, so listen carefully to what I have to say to you. Stand up, for I have been sent to you.” When he said this to me, I stood up, still trembling.
How did it minister to others?
“For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.” 2 Tim 2:3-4 (NIV)
I do cry and loose balance at times, when the Holy spirit touches me
In 1985 as a new Christian I got water baptized in a swimming pool at somebody’s house. The church I was attending and who was holding this event were hardcore cessationists. They didn’t believe in the sign gifts being active today and certainly didn’t believe in any of the manifestations mentioned in this talk. And this was all before the Toronto outpouring. What was peculiar is that in the moments leading up to my baptism as I shared my testimony I began experiencing these muscle spasms that increased in intensity which I found difficult to control and thought a little embarrassing. I figured perhaps I must be shivering (even though it wasn’t cold). It only happened to me out of the many baptized that day. I was surprised when the two elders who were going to dunk me noticed this they didn’t miss a beat. Instead they grabbed me really hard as if they figured, ‘Oh one of these!’ I finished my testimony and couldn’t control myself and boom! Into the water I went. Later at the reception that followed one of the men said to me, ‘It felt as if you were being jolted with pulses of electric currents!’ They weren’t surprised and didn’t make much mention of it.
I am so thankful for the adoration of God and the wisdom of Holy Spirit that flows thru you two in these talks. God bless you and all who love our Lord Jesus.
Thank you for clarifying that it is ‘the fruit’ not the visual responses that people demonstrate.
I have come to describe the manifestation physically as our human bodies being overwhelmed by Grace. In the beginning I just hit the floor unable to even stand. From the start through today, Holy Spirit has been increasing and conditioning my body to with /stand the Grace, to act as a conduit for the restorative / miracle making Grace . We need to be to be able to stand up to colabor with God.
Not found in scripture.
@@dancolvin3268 It's all over scripture. This is definitely the same experience millions of others have had when anointed. You can read the most important word on getting anointed with the Holy Spirit is from Jesus in Matthew 22 34 to 40 the greatest commandment. Being humbled by the Lord is the most powerful thing a human being can experience in their lifetime. There is no mistake that it is God doing it to us. He fills you up with perfect peace and you can have no contempt for another human being or will inside you to sin in any way or tell any white lie. There is no fear of the world to want to tell a white lie. Only God can help us repent in full and cast out all our resentments and anxieties. True freedom from the enemy and it comes with a compulsion to share the gospel of Jesus and then doing so successfully.
@DannFarelli with all respect - I love these interviews clearing things up and sharing so much wisdom and clarity! At times it seems that you present questions, but don’t let the guest talk. It would be helpful if you didn’t interrupt as much and gave more room for people to respond. Blessings.
Yes, like he spoke more than Bill and it felt quite bad.
When I ministered to people at conferences when I was in ministry school, I told people who I could tell were being touched by the peace of God to not write off the peacefulness and receive it and sit in it. I wonder if sometimes people aren’t able to receive because they’re comparing their manifestation that is seemingly small and not tuning into it because they’re watching everyone else receive something bigger.
Yes, sometimes we don't feel something and assume others are faking it. To me it's like the spirit of the pharisees or their line of thinking. They wanted what Jesus had for their own gain or power and would jump to criticize him at every moment because they couldn't stand confronting their own guilt and became jealous and bitter.
Absolutely love this series! Love your Heart Bethel Church- CITY ON A HILL;
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You can be too intellectual for God and miss him completely while philosophising over him. Have seen that. Thank you Bethel for having a balance.
"God will offend your mind to reveal your heart."
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
1 John 4:1
Yeah I know someone who esteems people who have great experiences then finds someone to esteem greater and boast in them as if that somehow attributes to their own experiences. And I think that is weird and prideful. Whatever God gives us in small or great degree just be thankful for it and cherish it, because the journey does not end there if we continue seeking. Be humble about it too
We love bethel so much! 😍
Dear all
I experience strange revelations .
For instance if I had to attend mass at 10 AM , I would have already read the same scripture in the morning of that day . I would be amazed at this synhronization ..
can anyone tell if this is Holy Spirits work or what it is ??
Your love of God's word is wonderful and yes God is so good at confirming His word to us by repeating it for us -in our private devotions then in the public reading of the word at church.
I was waiting for Bill to open the Bible but..... didn't happen.
It’s gonna be a while LOL
I would like to laugh in the Spirit for about 3 days... I think that is exactly what I need rite now JOY JOY JOY
Bless the Lord, O my soul; And all that is within me, bless His holy name! Bless the Lord, O my soul, And forget not all His benefits: Who forgives all your iniquities, Who heals all your diseases, Who redeems your life from destruction, Who crowns you with lovingkindness and tender mercies, Who satisfies your mouth with good things, So that your youth is renewed like the eagle’s.
Psalms 103:1-5
Good morning brother. I know you didn't open up for feedback. I felt it in my heart to share.. I love this chapter and this verses. To me, it's a command to the flesh. No matter how I feel. I will bless the Lord with ALL that's within me bless His holy name. I remind myself, I'm a child of the most high God and son of The creator, who also has a sense of humor. God will meet you there because he loves you!:)
Amen!
I need the same thing like soo bad.. so hear us God
@@lindacalisto9034 Seriously!
Those standing in judgement do so in a religious spirit much like the pharisees did when challenging Christ at each miracle he performed. I did not seek out powerful miracles, signs and wonders. One day I was thrust into being attacked by someone possessed by a demonic spirit. I did not know it was even there, the sheer presence of God angered it and brought it to the surface. I had no choice but to rely on Jesus Christ to save me, I did not have more faith than these men in this video, as a matter of fact I feel I had very little faith, but through believing in Him God made that all okay. The Lord answered and delivered the "Lord of the darkness" (as self admitted by the demonic spirit itself) out of the person who I began to pray for once I realized the Lord had detained it from being able to harm me. Bill is 100% correct that your senses become trained to discern. Sometimes we can make mistakes but I have had multiple encounters with evil spirits since. Sometimes the hair on the back of your neck stands up, sometimes a person's pupils become large and black when they look at you and sometimes you'll feel cold. When it comes to discernment it's very simple with practice, and of course for those still drinking milk they still need practice and that's okay!
Lived it. You look like Jesus, they freak out.
Honest question here. How can you arbitrarily say that anyone who disagrees is a Pharisee? How do you know for a fact that they are not being Bereans? Pretty sweeping conclusion.
@@sdgtrlvr6922 when a sign or miracle happens people instantly want to know whether it's from God or an evil spirit or simply fake. If we give glory to God in all things then the entire premise for distinguishing such becomes moot. On multiple occasions Jesus became angry with the disciples AND the pharisees for standing in judgement arbitrating who and what is from God and who is allowed to do such things. So-called believers are literally arguing over whether shiny speckles in the air as if this is important. If people believe in Jesus Christ as their Lord and savior it doesn't matter whether it is fake or not. We are saved by our belief and faith in God, not by works. The apostle Paul wrote that belief in Him is credited to us as righteousness. So to say "it is God" or "it is not God" again doesn't matter so long as we worship God and not the miracle or sign itself. Bill and the leadership of Bethel is very clear that we should all keep their focus on God and it is okay to marvel at a sign or wonder that one believes in their heart is from God. If you have a vision or dream from the God or see something that cannot be explained and feel it is from God that's perfectly acceptable to experience and in accordance with the Bible.
This is not like a bethel on the defence. More like clearing the misunderstandings of the whole revival stuff 🙌 nice 😎
So good!!
Exactly! We're glad you appreciated it!
@@Bethel_Online you aren’t clearing anything up. The interviewer is biased and doesn’t ask tough questions-he is a part! Have someone orthodox interview you and ask the questions that NEED to be addressed. All you guys are doing is agreeing with each other. Plus all of this interview was your OPINIONS-nothing based on scripture….these biased “interviews” do not clear up anything except how you are sadly leading people astray….honestly breaks my heart.
And -they won’t respond to this….wonder why??🤔🤔😫
@@theschrocks2405 cuz they're frauds
"senses trained" so good - thank you for pointing it out
May God bless your church He is your Avenger
We need to be sensitive to the spirit! Pray to God through our Lord Jesus Christ to activate the gift of discernment in our lives!
WOW! So grateful for these videos. Is there any plan for these videos to be translated in other languages? Spanish? -THANKS!
Thank you 🙏
No Bibles were opened in the making of this video.
Why havnt you quoted from the bible in this comment.
Sometimes we can just talk from our heart about what we believe.
Just like you made this comment without backing it up by quoting a scripture from the bible.
@@glennbeauchamp3202 the whole point of this video is to address the accusations that people are making against their church. Their defense is that they are simply talking casually about something? How will that change peoples minds and start believing what they will believe about God if they don’t back it up with evidence from God’s Word itself?
I love the clarity they are bringing. Come, let us reason.
If only they would compare what they are saying to the bible though just like the Bereans Acts 17:11 Then things will become clear as to what is happening.
Where in the Bible did people shake when “touched” by the Holy Spirit? And when did people fall over back wards? When judgment came when people worshipped they alway fell on their knees forwards at bethel they fall over backwards ...
Falling over back wards happens in many many churches, i have had it for 40years. Not all the time. It is the power of God, manifested. THE HOLY SPIRIT.
@@marleneholloway7775 it happens in many many churches be cause many many churches false churches. Please back up your claim up with the Bibel why it’s the Holy Spirit? Just be cause someone feels it he could be deceived, again in scripture we only see falling backwards as judgment and forward always as worship.
Your heart is being revealed by your offense
Would rather see you showing this in scripture and not your own opinions.
Margot Rey@ I think the whole idea of this interview is for YOU to be hungry enough to seek it out for yourself, according to 2 Timothy 2:15 which says, "Study to show yourself approved unto God, a workman who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the Word of Truth."
@@bertsgirl941 I’ve searched it out and I find them wanting....
Estatic Prophecy by Stacey Campbell has loads of scriptural support. I found it really helpful
Thank you for the information
Please pray that a second azusa street revival will happen soon please set aside time each day to pray specifically for that Pentecostal churches need to get back to seeing signs wonders and miracles instead of just talking about it
The fruit of the spirit is self control. God is not The author of confusion. If people would just read their Bibles! Read your Bibles read your Bibles! Ask God for discernment.
There is absolutely no holy laughter or drunk in the spirit in the Bible! The fruit of the spirit is self control! My goodness, please escape Bethel, people.
Please tell me what makes you think that they are not reading the bible.
@Marlene Holloway I’ve watched a few of these now with an open heart and not once have these people opened up the bible that has been placed purely as a prop right next to them each time. I would have loved for them to open up and read what they where loosely referring to. They have not. So I have constantly paused and checked for myself just as the example is given by the Bereans in Acts 17:11. All I found the whole time is either lies or complete twisting of scripture and it’s contexts to justify themselves.
@@marleneholloway7775 They allow women to preach outlandish things (check out TH-cam video “narcissistic women of bethel”) They do fire tunnels and promote Heidi Baker who comes on stage moaning and falling over, they “decreed and declared” baby Olive WILL live and she died (prayer is humbly asking and surrendering to thy will be done not decreeing God to do what you say) They bop people on the heads with a prophetic puppet (child’s toy) during their pagan fire tunnel sessions, the women pastors preach with no fear of God, no reference talking about the Holy Spirit being like a genie in Aladdin and farts (yes abbi stomvall is on stage crudely talking about farts and other childish nasty things. They sell jewelry that have prophetic words printed on them for the buyer and they “sell” how to learn to prophecy at their school….the Bible says that Simon the sorcerer was REBUKED for trying to buy the Holy Spirit. NO, Bethel is dangerous and is worshipping a different god.
@@marleneholloway7775 I almost forgot…they dressed up like lord of the rings and banged the Gandalf staff onstage trying to get rid of racism. Wow. Can’t make this stuff up. They should be marked as false teachers and avoided!
@@lightabounds77 you have actually seen this have you
Have a tenson headache cannot feel pain cannot feel my soul nor body have trouble breathing does the Holy Spirit heal physical limbs or just mental and spiritual
Host, pls let Bill Speak
How do you know it's the Holy Spirit?
In your own spirit...a witness.
@@bertsgirl941 so what are some of the things the Holy Spirit does?
By your fruits. Love kindness peace joy contentment
@@leslieritter5707 so what are some things the Holy Spirit does?
So just now when I was asking god for an infilling of the spirit I immediately felt this pressure land on my head and I was wondering if any of you guys have had similar experiences I'm currently questioning its origin whether its authentic or counterfeit
I have felt that recently too! Also in my belly.
Fruits of the Holy Spirit are love, peace, joy, kindness, goodness, gentleness, patience, faithfulness and self control.❤🕊🕊🕊😊
NB: I used to be impatient, depressed, anxiety... but as i seek God diligently and sincerely, i become more peaceful, joyful, patience, gentle, humble...🛐🛐🛐📖🔑🦅🕊🕊🕊💕😊
It was a guadual n subtle change in my character. No loud or obvious manifestation and i dont speak in tongues.
Hope this sharin is able to help u, bro 🙌🏻👑✝️⚖🛡
Has anyone been getting burning hot in their body and really bad headaches/nausea?
It’s crazy how the enemy can do this too.
He’s an imitator. He isn’t creative as he isn’t created in the image of God like we are. So he never does anything that God hasn’t already done.
The lie that satan creates is that he owns something... he owns nothing. All the keys were given back to us by Jesus and what He did at the cross. God is good.
Dann's the Mann
1 Corinthians 15:3-4
24:32 “It’s just a poor standard of Judging things” 😮 the critics that he is referring to are not critiquing what these people are doing based on the lack of their own experiences but only on weighing it up against the bible. It looks like these two are afraid to open up that bible to prove what they are doing is right.
The devil is a great emulator but everything he does is a mirror image of what God does. It might appear to be the same, but it is actually a reverse copy. Thanks for sharing this.
How do you know the difference then?
Anyone experienced manifestiation of teeth being chattering? Which spirit is it came from?
How many times does Bill touch the Bible but never read it once 🤔? Read the word of God for yourselves people and be a member of Christ Jesus centre church not man's.
Personal testimony of mine. I used to attend Bethel many years ago and Bill is the one who inspired me as a young believer to read the bible. I've never been the same since reading God's word daily and praying.
Why then havnt you quoted from the bible in this comment you just made.
I'm telling my own personal experience. I didn't realize it's required I back it up with a verse.
If You don't feel God in the church. HE'S not there!
Who said anything about having to feel anything?
@@JBM101 All Your feelings are in Your Spirit... Not Your physical! Although physically We suffer as a result of a harmed Spirit...This world lies about everything to do with GOD... We need to be full IN JESUS CHRIST head to toe!through repentance&complete surrender...Open up to HIM! He Will bring true FATHER to abide also with You,head to toe in You! Then THEY bring THEY'RE HOLY SPIRIT to SEAL YOU for HEAVEN&teach You! SAVE YOU!!! You must be BORNAGAIN John 3:3...A continual process of being brought into eternal life in the HANDS and ARMS of GOD!!! All REQUIRED by GOD! Your feelings matter to HIM J B...Don't wait...The Rapture Will occur soon!!! I KNOW GOD... I'm HIS BRIDE. Redeemed! Sanctified! Glorified...Ready
That was a pretty mainline conversation. I guess rumors of the honey pot, gold dust, head jercking, were not touched upon.
There are other interviews that they discuss that. Just click on the link.
@@janetlanders8220 it seems that he would be more straightforward since these are the biggest controversies, it is no secret. There is no reason for me to click around looking to justify their issues.
Looks like they are putting out a re-discovering Bethel series because word of their false teaching is spreading. So thankful!
AMEN AND ALWAYS AMEN 🙏.
Justice isn't worth it.
I missed the scripture where these manifestations followed Gods work. IT’S. NOT. THERE.
It is 'Word and Spirit'. If either are missing in a meeting it is more or less likely to be the thoughts of men. We have a will and we should expertise this at all times, we cannot in any circumstances allow our 'feelings' to rule us. Difficult in a crowd where there is a lot of 'emotion' around, such as a party, ball game etc, and even some 'church' meetings. You should pastor the people not the 'environment'!
The Holy Spirits presence Himself in physical form everyday. The Holy Spirit has shown Himself as a Dove, as a Roar of Wind, The Father has shown Himself as A Burning Bush. Christians do not dispute these claims in Scripture. Jesus, as He said, shows Himself everyday in the form of Bread and Wine. Jesus is not bread and bread is not Jesus but once consecrated it becomes His Body and His Blood.
In the book when heaven invades earth Bill Johnson teaches that Jesus was an obedient man who God gave his holy spirit to and not the Incarnate Son of God. Anyone who truly had a relationship with the Holy Spirt would say something so erroneous.
Wouldn't say something so erroneous *
If you watch the first episode of this series he explains how this was misunderstood in his book. He clearly states that Jesus was fully man and fully God in his book and in multiple sermons.
There was no misunderstanding. I do not have to watch anything further. That is what He is quoted as saying in his book. Bill Johnson teaches that yes Jesus is fully man and fully God but by way of God giving His Spirit to the man Jesus at His baptism and not because He is incarnate Son of God.
3 But I am afraid that as the serpent deceived Eve by his cunning, your thoughts will be led astray from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ. 4 For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough.
2 Corinthians 11
Did any of you hyper critical religious spirit driven folk even listen to what these two men discussed? These two guys have probably forgotten more of the bible than many of you claim you know as they have years of extensive training in the scriptures through various bible colleges in the past.
Foreaal though
Is it just me or does the interviewer not give enough time for pastor bill to speak ?
its just that it feels like he's talking a loot more
It’s healthy to have a dialogue. This format allows questions that we might have, as Bill is speaking, to be answered.
It’s not just you. I find him overtaking the conversation a lot and not leaving space for the other person
I really dont quite by this self releasing and explaining away all thes strangenes and bad doctrine and what not. Compair this manifestations with the elaborate NDE storys and you also there wil se see satan posing as God or Christ without people understanding that they are decived. Please be careful here people. You are aloud to be very suspicius about strange manifestations. I really dont think God wil be angry if we try to test theese things, quite oposite.
Read John 6 (whole chapter) dont be like them!
Seek and eat the bread of life and drink the living water.
Dont seek the manna, theyre all dead.
The Holy Spirit is THE FATHER WHO IS A SPIRIT, not a third divine person.
You can see that Jesus speaks about TWO divine Persons over and over again : Father and Son, Son and Father...
But when He comes to the well-known "discussion on the two blasphemies" something happens: you have TWO divine Persons again, but the Father has been REPLACED by the Holy Spirit.
Well, it's actually by this statement that Jesus MAKES KNOWN that the HOLY SPIRIT IS THE FATHER! It would have been IMPOSSIBLE that Jesus had forgotten the Father in that speech. It is clear that Jesus cannot forget the Father, the swapping of names simply shows you that the name "Holy Spirit" is just ANOTHER WAY by which the Father can be called.
That is, Jesus has the Father who is a spirit "God is a spirit.", where that "Father who is a spirit" is called "FATHER" by Jesus. But inversely the "Spirit who is the Father" is called "HOLY SPIRIT" by Jesus, you can figure it out from the speech on the two blasphemies. Indeed, Jesus had to give a "personal name" to the "Spirit who is the Father" in order to distinguish Him from other spirits (e.g., the Spirit of truth). Therefore "HOLY SPIRIT" is simply a SECOND EQUIVALENT NAME of "FATHER," NOT a third divine person. The two EQUIVALENT NAMES are used interchangeably in the various events disclosed by the gospels (Mary's pregnancy, Jesus' baptism (the Father speaks and takes actions in heaven), help given to Jesus in his journey into the wilderness and in speaking, the 2 blasphemies...).
You also have proof that the name "Holy Spirit" identifies the Father: the Holy Spirit is with Jesus, but you know that THE FATHER is the ONLY ONE Person with Jesus "I am not alone because the Father is with me" (reiterated many times in all different ways). Therefore, the Holy Spirit with Jesus can only be the Father, the ONLY PERSON who is there with Him.
The Father is merely present here by his words and actions, but in reality NOBODY is here: this is why we say He is a spirit.The Father who is a spirit comes from the "normal Father" whom no one has ever seen or known. Only Jesus did it.
Ain't Bill Johnson a false teacher/ preacher?
Yuuuuuup!
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You guys are selling snake oil
Youre not Jesus.
These guys are works salvation and heretical. You can not just use Jesus. They're in a relationship with their stomachs.