Enforcers | What I've Learned | A Necromunda Starter Guide

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  • @rikokrates6298
    @rikokrates6298 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The ram is actually really good imho. It has access to a bunch of different grenades including gas grenades from the outset. Gas can be extremely good for taking out multi wound fighters, plus it ignores armour. Sure it doesn't pin but you have concussion carbines and shotguns for that. Also photon flash are so good, yes fighters who haven't moved but crucially if a fight has moved they can potentially lose their next activation! I love the enforcers, I think they did a good job of making a militarised police force that finds itself outgunned by the gangs its sent to police!

    • @MiniatureGameMontage
      @MiniatureGameMontage  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks! That’s a “pinner” comment!

    • @rikokrates6298
      @rikokrates6298 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MiniatureGameMontage Thanks for the content, really enjoying the what I've learnt series.

  • @heretical_hobbyist
    @heretical_hobbyist ปีที่แล้ว +15

    A couple of things I've learned from playing regularly against Enforcers:
    A Subjugator Captain, equipped with a shock baton and shield, is a great way to get some combat ability into the gang. WS3 with the combination of weapon profiles and special rules is as good as it gets for the enforcers. He still has his stub pistol, so has some firepower. Later on in a campaign, pair him with a hardcase cyber mastiff, and he is a serious threat that is a huge risk to charge into.
    Regarding the Palenite Rookies, that shotgun is a must buy in my opinion. A BS of 5 is pretty poor, but having any auto hit template weapon negates that and means you have a low cred model that you can push forward with, and start pinning incoming enemy close combat fighters to hold them up.
    Tactics card wise, the Enforcer deck that came in the Dark Uprising box has a tactic card called something along the lines of "don't trip". It can be pretty funny to force an opponent that's just climbed up a ladder to go back down to the bottom. Also, "lockdown" in a Zone Mortalis game is very effective!
    Great video, always good to hear someone else's opinion on how to play a certain gang. I definitely agree that these guys are best hanging around the mid range. I look forward to seeing more of these for the other gangs. Thanks for the content, long may it continue 🤘🏻

    • @MiniatureGameMontage
      @MiniatureGameMontage  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks - awesome feedback! And don't trip is a good one for some shenanigans!

    • @dsanchez23fight
      @dsanchez23fight ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gang tactics card wise I love informant. Redeploying your opponents stuff can really help when you grab an ambot to ambush it

  • @atragonx7939
    @atragonx7939 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    That poor arms master totally got punked by a rookie.

  • @dsanchez23fight
    @dsanchez23fight ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Munda is the best man. Thanks for these vids

  • @noprobllama9747
    @noprobllama9747 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Building my gang right now, thank you for your video.

  • @Zaxus
    @Zaxus ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Have you taken a look at the Badzone Enforcers in White Dwarf 477 (2022-06)? The changes they make make the gang feel more modernized. Losing hardcase cybermastiffs hurts, but gaining real "juves" and full customizability is worth it.
    It's a pretty easy Google.
    Also, yay! I'm not dead. Just super busy with university and other life related things. I saw this title pop up on my phone and had to comment.

    • @Zaxus
      @Zaxus ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also, web guns are in your equipment lists for sergeants and captains if you are Badzone.

    • @MiniatureGameMontage
      @MiniatureGameMontage  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Was wondering where you went! :) I have not rolled with the updated changes yet. I'm not a White Dwarf subscriber so I guess I'm out of the loop. Thanks for the info!

  • @jb2850
    @jb2850 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would add the following point. Economy. You cant hold territories so you need to make up that lost income somehow. Get the fixer hangeron to help bridge that gap somewhat.

  • @EmperorsPath
    @EmperorsPath ปีที่แล้ว +2

    loved this video, the enforcers are my second favourite gang behind Orlocks and as always I enjoy hearing your opinions on using them! Im a big fan of boltguns, I feel they do a lot of work! Never used the magacles befoere, so will have to give that a go!

    • @MiniatureGameMontage
      @MiniatureGameMontage  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks friend! Enforcer bolt guns are awesome and magnacles can be so much fun.

  • @jackduncan5311
    @jackduncan5311 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If the Enforcers get another book (which they really need) I simple change that in my opinion would fix the gang without ruining the "all gear no idea" theme
    Subjugator Cpt & Sgt. = WS 3 BS 4
    Palanite Cpt & Sgt. = WS 4 BS 3

    • @MiniatureGameMontage
      @MiniatureGameMontage  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes they totally need that WS boost in my opinion.

    • @jackduncan5311
      @jackduncan5311 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Don't have to go as far as the extra attack most champs have because they are meant to less skilled and deadly but more tactical! @@MiniatureGameMontage

  • @thomaswilson6489
    @thomaswilson6489 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting thoughts.
    I’ve found synergy between loadout and skills is really key with enforcers, absolutely agree that shooting skills are really useful and Threat Response the better of the Palanite Skills - especially on a CC Subjugator Captain.
    The other thing I’ve tended to do is keep them in pairs/trios making strategic use of group activations and advancing fairly cautiously.
    In terms of weapons the Heavy Concussion can be brutal (especially with fast shot). Paired auto pistols with the gunfighter is fun and fluffy and a way to up your chances to pin the enemy.
    In campaigns the tactics card that allows you to rifle through the pockets of someone you’ve taken out of action (cin CC) is really useful for a few more creds.

    • @MiniatureGameMontage
      @MiniatureGameMontage  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing! I do much the same and run them in teams. We did threat response once and it did provide a very good moment. Unfortunately he interrupted a corpse grinder and whiffed. 🤣

    • @thomaswilson6489
      @thomaswilson6489 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah yes. The dreaded whiff. Can’t do much about that with enforcers.

  • @PMMagro
    @PMMagro ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We have esprit de coprs, moral superiority!
    Stay down ganger, I am not done with my donut yet...

  • @jeffshackleford3152
    @jeffshackleford3152 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the enforcers.
    I made my gang based on Denzel in training day.
    They are a corrupt police unit who shake down local gangs.
    They are pretty fun to play.

  • @alrethianscraftsbattles
    @alrethianscraftsbattles ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video man, good insight and very interesting as i am trying to learn more about these guys. Thanks 👍

  • @CommanderCheapSkate
    @CommanderCheapSkate ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, thank you for the shout out! This is an excellent video and extremely informative! It'll help new players to join the Underhive!

  • @robertford532
    @robertford532 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, thank you for making it. Im subscribing. Just putting my Enforcers together now and looking forward to playing with them.

  • @Jewus19
    @Jewus19 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the problem with amazing armor saves is just that you pay these ridic sums of money but more often than not you will still die to the first boltgun shell or plasma or any dedicated melee fighter anyways so investing in armor is never really worth it. Maybe mesh+undersuit but any more than that is better invested in more guys. Very sad that the armor in necromunda does not feel rewarding at all because an enforcer in full armor with shield and shock baton is the coolest thing ever. Does not deliver sadly.

    • @MiniatureGameMontage
      @MiniatureGameMontage  ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. I take a subjugator or two because they are fluffy but you're paying a lot for armor that can still be shredded on a 50/50 roll.

  • @philosophyofcarry
    @philosophyofcarry ปีที่แล้ว

    Heavy concussion ram is actually good - it's also not listed correctly in the Book of Judgment - it has the Blast 3" trait per one of the more recent erratas - it's also a heavy weapon SANS the unwieldy trait - which puts it up there with the grav gun and grenade launcher as a good platform for a *fast shot* or if you need a more reactionary piece *hip shooting* skilled champion. Very potent with the right synergy.

  • @MalakhimJWQ1
    @MalakhimJWQ1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hail all

  • @adrianhyde-price4342
    @adrianhyde-price4342 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent stuff, many thanks!

  • @DaThingOnTheDoorstep
    @DaThingOnTheDoorstep ปีที่แล้ว

    Full confession, I built my Enforcers before I got my hands on their rules, so I might've given my Captain a plasma gun from some Tempestus Scion bits. I do proxy it as a concussion carbine in my official roster, but when the gang gets credits to spare, I pick one up for reals from the Trading Post! Kind of did the same for my Orlock Arms Master, where I gave him the cool servo arm from the standard kit, but alas it isn't part of their equipment lists.
    As for Subjugators, always remember that the base kit stubgun eats a weapon slot, so you either get a shield and another weapon, or get the heavy weapons of dubious quality. I feel like what they do are done better by the boltguns, grenade launchers, and shotguns you can combine with the Assault Shield. At least they don't have Unwieldy so you can shoot them after moving, so that's something, I guess!

    • @MiniatureGameMontage
      @MiniatureGameMontage  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah plasma is so good. The Enforcer bolters are excellent. I wish they would at least make the champions a WS of 3 and 2 attacks so I would be enticed to make one CC oriented.

  • @Zaxus
    @Zaxus ปีที่แล้ว

    I've had some amusing experiences using two infiltrating shotgun sergeants each with a hardcase cybermastiff.

    • @MiniatureGameMontage
      @MiniatureGameMontage  ปีที่แล้ว

      We are getting ready to add that cybermastiff as soon as I have the credits. She's all painted up!

  • @goobahead11
    @goobahead11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool vid

  • @dysonraf
    @dysonraf ปีที่แล้ว

    Another helpful video thanks. Still waiting for my first game but got my delaque and enforcers close to being painted!
    Quick question re campaigns. If I pick my basic gang and as it goes on get more specialist weapons do people expect you to switch a model out to another one to visually represent what they are carrying?
    Oh and the outtakes 🤣

    • @MiniatureGameMontage
      @MiniatureGameMontage  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol! Nobody has mentioned the bloopers yet! 😂 So I’m totally cool with proxy models but I’m also very used to seeing the gangs we play. It’s one of those things were you and your opponent or group need to agree. I love to game but also keep costs reasonable.

  • @robinmottart3859
    @robinmottart3859 ปีที่แล้ว

    my favorite gang ! say hi for me to Talos ;)

  • @TheOmnissiah
    @TheOmnissiah ปีที่แล้ว

    Enforcers aren't easy, but damn they are fun.

  • @christiandannenberg8622
    @christiandannenberg8622 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are so cool necromunda best in the net 😊
    Why dont you play van saar?

  • @tbird1053
    @tbird1053 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4+ ammo check on enforcer boltgun right? Important detail.

  • @brennonr
    @brennonr ปีที่แล้ว

    would you consider this one a new player friendly gang? i want to do lots of crazy stuff, but i havent played a single game yet

    • @MiniatureGameMontage
      @MiniatureGameMontage  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely! Very new player friendly and I honestly think that was some of the intent with the box they originally came with.

  • @joeythegoth
    @joeythegoth 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So ive just bought a box of enforcers and subjucators should I build them as whats on the box? Im worried incase i screw myself

    • @MiniatureGameMontage
      @MiniatureGameMontage  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You'll find that subjugators are pretty expensive. I would not build any close combat enforcers personally. Lots of Bolters, the concussion carbine is also good. Also a long rifle for a champion. The enforcer shotgun is good so yeah. Grenade launchers took a nerf but that's ok. They still look cool!

    • @joeythegoth
      @joeythegoth 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you very much sir

  • @garretwoeller7669
    @garretwoeller7669 ปีที่แล้ว

    On sub Sargents can they have both a shield and sniper rifle or do I have to pick one or the other

    • @MiniatureGameMontage
      @MiniatureGameMontage  ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe they can have both. Feels kinda odd but I don’t see anything preventing it

    • @garretwoeller7669
      @garretwoeller7669 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MiniatureGameMontage alright bet I was thinking about running one as a tanky sniper and the other as a GL user

    • @MiniatureGameMontage
      @MiniatureGameMontage  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@garretwoeller7669 just double check that subjugators are eligible for the equipment. I don’t have my rulebook handy right now. I’m not totally sure they can carry that weapon.