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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ต.ค. 2024
- The suspect accused of killing four University of Idaho students in November 2022 is making a second attempt at getting the charges thrown out.
Bryan Kohberger, 29, is charged with four counts of murder and one count of burglary in connection with the stabbing deaths of Kaylee Goncalves, Madison Mogen, Xana Kernodle and Ethan Chapin.
Kohberger tried to get the charges thrown out before, and he’s asking again to have the indictment dismissed, claiming there was improper conduct during the grand jury proceedings.
THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE DEMOLISHED THE HOUSE BEFORE THE TRIAL. What an ASSININE thing to do. It just made it feel like they were trying to hide something. I don’t think anything like this has ever happened in a murder trial before.
it was a drug selling paradise house.. they wanted it gone from memories
The police/authorities closed the crime scene and returned it to the owner. "They" didn't tear anything down. It was up to the owner of the property.
the Borderline building in Thousand Oaks was not allowed to be torn down until every lawsuit was done. I felt bad for the owner, since he sat on it 5 years without being able to re-lease it or tear it down.. he got a bad deal just for owning a building @@pillettadoinswartsh4974
Didn't it was the owner! 😮
Supposedly the owner sold it to the college for a $1.00. College tore it down its no longer there. I watch them demolish the house. SMH such a shame. They should've of waited.
Emily: "I think all cameras should have courtrooms" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ethan is from my hometown, where I still live. His parents are well known, loved people and our community supports them beyond belief. We need to get on with this so they can attempt to get some closure, get justice for Ethan and the girls and they can attempt to begin to rebuild their lives.
Kaylee’s father went to school where I live my hometown a little town called Carson Washington he took one of my nieces to prom many years back he was a good young man. Sad to see this happen.
His parents and siblings are doing just fine & aren’t in any way going to attend or worry about the trial. Ethan is gone & he’s not coming back. The family has moved on & more than anything wants to ensure the proper person is prosecuted, not someone they have very little evidence against. His parents aren’t looking for any closure & it’s something you never get once you’ve lost a loved one, a child, doesn’t happen. They are very intelligent people & set up a foundation for kids to go to college & how I personally know her.
No, the defendant needs a fair trial . Those murdered are gone they no longer care about anything. The families need the closure but they need a fair trial to happen above anything. Don't confuse this with we need to have a speedy , unfair trial for the victims families. No we need to see the proof.
If the victims families were on trial for a wrongdoing, they would want and deserve a fair trial.
It's horribly sad that happened,BUT, I don't think that Bryan K. did it ! I think that it was Dave Loach, David Berriocha & Maddie's boyfriend Jake ? .
@@lorileary4432 I don’t believe Bryan did this crime either. Don’t think he’s made up that way nor does the state have any evidence linking him, other than the “touch DNA” that could’ve come from any one of the detectives, any of the household members, as they all shop and live in that same small area. They’re not going to be able to get a conviction on what they currently have as evidence when they don’t plan on even using the touch DNA, allegedly, even at the trial.
If I was innocent, there is no way I would want to stay in jail for two more years to go to trial. If I was innocent, I would be pushing for a trial to prove my innocence as soon as possible.
It's not up to you lol you usually have no say in the matter what so ever...
Yeah but it weird that he’s ok with it, not pushing for quick trial
@@robloxuserislavendarsbesti832 you obviously haven't been listening to the court proceedings...
That's what law suits are for......money,ya I would stay.
M@@robloxuserislavendarsbesti832 you must be new to covering this case. .. besides, with that cult up there in Idaho, jail is probably the safest place for him.
You’re the best . You’re the only person I can stand to listen to nonstop like this. Thank you for your gracious tact and sensitivity while fully facing ugly and difficult facts.
tHAT'S FUNNY BECAUSE I THINK HE IS THE ABSOLUTE WORST!!! i'VE WATCHED HIS LIVE STREAMS! hE HAS NO CLUE AS TO WHAT IS GOING ON AND IS SO UNEDUCATED AS TO COURTROOM MATTERS
Hatchification, I could not agree with you more✨
@@truthtalker4038 Your comment made me laugh because it's so far from the truth. Thank you, I needed a good chuckle today
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Then why are you wasting your time? Doesn’t add up@@truthtalker4038
@@truthtalker4038he’s not a lawyer. He’s a reporter so cut him some slack. He is just there to bring light to all the top stories out there. Most are criminal in nature because that is what is we are into.
We need to get on with this trial!
This isnt a soap opera..it's real life. Some of you treat these crimes/cases like youre grabbing popcorn and about to watch an entertaining sitcom. Everything needs to be tediously prepared. If they don't , they could risk letting a killer go free (you only get one shot to take someone to trial).
@@joelsommer5765😂😂😂What are you doing on TH-cam? Who are you "THE ALMIGHTY PROVIDER AND DELIVERER OF ALL THAT'S RIGHTEOUS LOL😂!!!"- Get a life
This is ridiculous!!! They've had a whole year before now ‼️‼️The families have to wait another year and a half????? Are you kidding me????
No way should these families and the community wait another YEAR. I do have faith in this Judge. He's a solid guy, you can tell.
You know Mr Green school and few others he lived in that house when he was younger and another family cousin own house well he destroys a house makes money out of it 800,000 or more plus Million go fund me . How u write a book and case not over . Would be nice were all this $$$ gonna go to sure not gonna cost that much lol. Any ways hope they bring case up by summer let these family get justice if they cant win then try them kids individually should done that in the beining . Poor kids .
@@babytash3 I don't understand anything you are saying except the last part about the victim's families getting justice. Your not completing your sentences and are kind of all over the place.
@WalpNachtyet his DNA says different he did this murder
His dna was at the scene,he stalked the girls on social,etc. but I do believe the girl that’s alive is involved
In all probability, preparations for trial will take much longer than another year. It’s very doubtful that a trial will take place in 2025, as stated by the defense.
This is not in the least unusual for an ordinary murder trial, let alone a quadruple murder case. Preparing for trial can and does, take years. The trial has to be done correctly. No one wants a mistrial.
The longer the trial is delayed the more potential jurors will learn about the case.
No! Just no! Give these families closure!
If certain things are rushed and Bryan doesn’t get proper due process, he may be acquitted or have a conviction turned over on appeal. If he’s truly guilty, you *want to get it right the first time.* A “not guilty” gets no do-overs. 😬
@@leannemo7382This idea probable cause / beyond a reasonable doubt! 😂😂 It's a Joke. IT'S NOT VIABLE!
I would set the trial for October 14, 2024 and NEVER change it. I would give the defense any help the court can offer and push the information or help them secure defense witnesses. The rest is to be shown at trial. The defense will never really be ready to defend Kohberger. There is too much evidence against him in these murders and more to come.
SET THE TRIAL NOW!
Target trial date by defense is summer of 2025. Judge asks “do we really need another year? Can I help you with anything?” Wow I guess she has a puzzle with a million pieces to put together. But she really needs to be give a deadline and that's it!!
Yes but she had over year to get things together . She has multiple ppl on this case . These family there lawyers are ready shes stalling . They have given all documents and it goes through channels .
Maybe the prosecutors office needs to get on the ball and turn stuff over to the defense
This is a great show. It’s well thought out, gives intelligent answers to questions we have. With facts and points of the law. Emily is a fun smart lady. Love your channel too.
If certain things are rushed and Bryan doesn’t get proper due process, he may be acquitted or have a conviction turned over on appeal. If he’s truly guilty, you *want to get it right the first time.* A “not guilty” gets NO do-overs (double jeopardy in the US). 😬
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Perth here 😊
Queensland, too 💖💖💖
Queensland too , recovering from Australia Day party .
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My concern is witness memory regarding details. Other thoughts - what if key witnesses meet their demise and are no longer available - car accident, illness, etc.
Their depositions and statement-when everything was fresh in their memory- are played/presented in court. Justice can still be served in a case like this one. It’s not quite like a mob kill of a key witness.
That’s right…
Justice is supposed to be free & seen by all
UK here
IF Kohberger is found guilty, there’s absolutely no way to charge anybody else because any evidence is gone with the crime scene 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬. Terrible to tear it down before the trial is over
I don’t understand how any of the powers that be allowed this house to be torn down. I don’t think they should have been allowed to do it before the trail is over.
@@kathiewool4292 Who would have been able to legally prevent this house from being torn down? It's not government property. It's private property. The judge can't tell someone what they are allowed and not allowed to do with their property.
You may not like that the house was destroyed, but they had every right to do it.
@@nadinekeating3255 I understand all that but there could have been possible evidence still in there. You don’t know, but now it’s destroyed.
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The court can make orders but its too late now
Can we get closed caption on future streaming? I can’t hear the Judge all the time.
I think the vacant lot is just as much a reminder as the house. IMO, it kicks you in the gut more seeing that vacant lot because it sends an eerie message that as a student there, if you become the victim of a horrific crime, everyone will try to keep it hush hush and soon move on with their lives.
It will not be vacant for long, the University has already received ideas for the lot- selling hybrid tulips (Ethan worked on Tulip farm), Park w/ dog park included (Murphy), place for student fundraisers, …
If up to the Defense Team, trial will not begin until 2026. As of 1/26/24 hearing, they do not want to calendar a date for two summers.
@@dianealarcon8304entirely untrue, every single thing you wrote, lmao.
That’s partially why it was done. Also, so no new evidence could be found. These murders have drugs, cartels, s police involvement, university involvement written all over it. So many dirty hands were being paid to allow the drug/trafficking trade to expand in the region. My friends son got caught up in the drugs etc… This area was targeted by drug cartels.
That's ridiculous to delay this trial 3 years from the actual murders. The defense will delay and drag their feet as long as possible because the memories of witness will be diminished over time. This trial should have been scheduled for 2023 and the lawyers would have been forced to comply. There should be a requirement that any trial must be scheduled within 1 year of the crime.
Thank you for the coverage JB
Does anyone else feel like JB is your old friend just talking to you about court cases? ❤😂
More delay would be devastating for family and friends! It is all about delay delay delay a jury trial! I understand every person has a right to due process but one thing I am concerned about is that Kohberger has the knowledge and understanding of law and knows the intricacies and nuances that could be used to divert or delay the courts.
Excellent coverage thanks 😊
Good job as always thank you
The defense attorney is trying to keep this case from going to trial!
There is no choice: it HAS to go to trial
At first I was hoping the trial would start last year. But the way it’s going these attorneys are going to nurse this golden goose for all the fees they can get for themselves. I wouldn’t be surprised if it took 3 years before they start this trial. That gives the attorneys a nice bank if funds and drawing out the inevitable anyway. BK is behind bars anyway might just put him in prision as he awaits trial. He wouldn’t be behind bars if they had no evidence. That is his new home let him get used to it. There are a lot of people who have died in jail awaiting their trials.
They are trying soooo hard to cover-up.
....and it's all on your (our) dime.
I used to work for the court system…defense attorney file for continuous after continuous so that the court gets tired of it. It wears them down.
JB TY for your poignant coverage on this case. I’ve been subscribing since Gabby’s case & im super proud to see you climbing the ladder of true success. Love your updated look both your personal style as well as in the studio! So great. Such a great broadcaster! Love it!❤
When is the Landries case?
Good decission Judge ,Judge thank god
The defense saying “and if he is found guilty” they know he is guilty because they would say “to prove his innocence” it’s the little things for me..
are you aware that in most cases solicitor's aren't allowed to turn away a client? She can know and think his guilty but at the end of the day it is HER job to defend him regardless of how she REALLY feels or thinks about the case its what happens when you become a defense lawyer. SOMETHING EVERY SINGLE ON YOU WANT TO START RECOGNIZING BEFORE DRAGGING the woman. She does a job to feed her family she doesn't do it for fun remember this.
@@samanthaparker1132 I think that any lawyer for hire can elect NOT to take a case. On the other hand, it is routine for a public defender to be assigned to defend an indigent defendant.
@jacobrudy7218 actually they can't. A friend of mine was studying and when she learnt this fact she went I honestly can't be a defence lawyer anymore because I wouldn't be able to represent people I believe are guilty and that she wouldn't have the option to decline. So she went into a separate field. Keep in mind I'm also not in the US
@@samanthaparker1132 I know public defenders can’t turn away any case given to them.. not sure why exactly you said this but thank you for vital information had I not known..
If he’s not guilty why is the defense so desperately trying to keep all the information private.
His lawyer seems too be unable too handle her duties as a criminal lawyer, if she cant handle this or she needs to either get more help or excuse herself as his attorney! She has one excuse after another. She's just trying too put it off.
This defense attorney is delaying..delaying..delaying. total B.S.
Honestly, I want this trial to happen asap. But I don’t think they’re being unreasonable. That is a LOT of work, and all serious trials take years to get to court
Sounds like a bigger team is needed to start sifting through all that data. Yes, it's a tonne of data, but the defence is also taking a LONG time to get through it. They also seem to be struggling to conduct interviews, discover/follow up on their own evidence and line up witnesses and experts. If it's a resource issue, that's fixable.
agree!! it's unacceptable imo
There shouldn't be that much data to evaluate. The defense will delay the case for twenty years if they can because this is a death penalty case and due to the vicious nature of the crime, the convicted killer will get the death penalty. The defense will spend their time during jury selection to try to seat a juror who does not believe in the death penalty.
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There is over 50 Terabytes. That is, in fact, an absurd amount of data. Considering they are lawyers too they may need to hire a specialist.
Big difference between, book smart, and Intelligent.
He said it well. "It's time for a trial'!
LOve listening to JB and Emily ❤❤👌👌
Im sure the court is aware of what needs to be done. They need to proceed with trial.
Can anyone post the link for the judge’s TH-cam page? I have searched for his page and cannot find it. Thanks!
RIDICULOUS the house was demolished. It doesn't erase what happened. All anyone should care about is ACTUAL justice. That's impossible and impeded now. And unprecedented.
Yep. It should not have been demolished until the trial was over.
The fact that he's not fighting that he didn't do it but trying to throw out on a flaw speaks volume that he's guilty as fuck
How exactly did you reach this conclusion? 🤷🏻
Those roommates better have to testify; if not Something is SHADY.
Lemme guess… you think a few college kids killed 4 people, and have fooled the local police and the fbi and are getting away with it 🙄
Especially D because she's the only one that saw the person in the mask. Odd.
Who says they wouldn’t?
@@sythmc8600so far Bethany has said she doesn't want to
@@okiegranny4844she’s a coward
So instead of seeing the defendant (along with family members in the gallery) as human, we get to see an entire trial where the main character is Judge John Judge. He's center stage with camera focused on him & only him as if he is the most important person in this trial - which is not true, obviously.
We cannot see the states witnesses or prosecutors up close, we cannot see the defense attorneys or defendant up close, we cannot see the micro expressions on anyone's faces except Judge John Judge's which doesn't matter.
It is never a good thing to have the state control the flow of information. The press should be suing.
The prosecution was able to sift & sort through all those interviews & all of the evidence in a little over a year & develop their plan.
So should the defense pull it together in a similar timeframe.
The lawyers realize that there is very little that the lawyers can do to defend this case because the killer was so sloppy and there are no other suspects. If the defense can delay this trial for 10 years they will do it because this is a death penalty case and the lawyers realize that the convicted killer will get the death penalty.
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Pure speculation. Both of you.
@@jacobrudy7218yes but it takes years to go through various appeal processes and seems like many convicted killers languish in prisons on death row for many years
I get it there is so much info they need to get and Read. If it goes wrong and a re trial needs to happen it could take longer and two more years
Who keeps track of the defense attorneys billable hours?
The Court and the State Controller where her pay check comes from.
How many months will it take to find a jury? Just add that onto the time frame too.
A Change of Venue will not help the murderer. He is guilty everywhere.
Wrong
He's loving every minute of the attention he's getting! At the end of the day hes a sick coward , i hate to think that hes getting pleasure from the procedure, he'l even get attention from twisted individual's writting to him in prison , that's something hes never had before and what hes always wanted!!
Remember innocent until proven otherwise.
You’re assuming his guilty already. He likely is, but it must play out properly or he’ll be quickly acquitted at trial or on appeal.
I’m not sure what points to him loving the attention. It seems the kind of life he lived, he was very much quiet and in the background for the most part. Not on par with someone who loves attention.
Oh he's loves the attention. You do not have to be a behaviour scientist to notice his behavior in court. There is a huge difference in being a loner, living a quiet lonely life with few friends, and being shy, withdrawn and shadowing from society. BK simply had difficulties making relationships, due to being slightly odd, according to neighbours and former classmates and pupils. He didn't chose the lonely quiet life. Now he's in the center of attention, and he likes it.
The truth is there.
Defense doesn't have a defense - technical flaw's are the only defense they MIGHT have!
Real subtle the way they got him an attorney that looks like two of the girls!
Yes watching from Europe Germany
4 separate trials but that is better. Let’s hope 4 sets of jurors see thru his lies.
Judge needs to handle this
Defense needs to quit whining about how much work she has to do and hire some help. If she can’t handle the case maybe she needs to excuse herself.
We need the trial for Delphi as well.
Watching from Norway🇳🇴
Thank JB for doing this stream center live look in. As a first time viewer, I was really impressed with how you took our thoughts and discussed them. I think the judge will be fair. What is clearly going in is I think the defense team is hopping there is a plea deal, the longer this is delayed the longer we might have a deal where he gets credit for time served. I dont think University of Idaho will like if this was delayed till 2025. Enrollement levels will be down the longer this case is in the news.
It's always an advantage to the defense to delay delay delay, when someone is guilty!!!!
I feel like summer will keep more people around. Social media will be hectic during summer.
I’ve never heard a defense team ask for time for things that MAY come up after trial.
If he is innocent it must be damageding to his mentality. From South Africa
He's guilty!
This man is a creep how can he be allowed to file twice to dismiss but still not have a trial??? Come on.
Peter and Emily are both so fair in their unbiased coverage of trials.
Hey JB and Emily I’m new to you . I’ve been a member of Emily’s. I’ve followed you for a while
I think they are hoping we forget. Of I was innocent I would not want to be in jail if I were innocent
Just wondering, if the procescuter already handed over ALL THAT INFO , they looked at it in a timely fashion SO what’s the problem with the defense not being able to? She just went on and on about how tough her job is - I understand the magnitude of the discovery however that’s her job and it started to sound like complaining and “poor me” attitude. STOP STALLING
They just handed over a ton more actually
Justice for Idaho 4. Don’t move the trial. Maybe the University can house all the incoming reporters and families for free. Least they can do.
What are they trying to appeal before the trail has even happened?
Moscow Idaho is an hour and a half south of Spokane, Washington and Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. We are eight miles west of Pullman Washington, home of Washington State University. Pullman is another very small college town. Both these sets of towns are right on the Washington/Idaho border.
I dont understand why they keep delaying this hes still someday going to trial at some point so why delay the parents want this to get started and be over with this is non sence
Are you going to do the crystal Rodgers case in bardstown Kentucky
Wow, 9000 tips submitted on Jan 4th? That's a lot to go through.
It was the stupid online sleuths who were bogging down the investigation.
WoW.. She really is dragging her feet. Want to bet she does this at th next hearing. We need more time. They have had enough time. Those 4 young adults weren't given enough time on this planet to even start their adult journey. Delays Delays Delays. I say schedule the hearing.... Today!
We dont know too much - because THIS is a DEATH PENALTY CASE/ PATIENCE!
They made a big mistake taken that house down. They should have tore it down from inside out, because the killer if Kohberger could have hide the knife anywhere behind a wall, under a sink were there are holes around pipes, just anywhere that police may have not looked. Why did the University insist on it be demolished? That move makes me a bit at odds. Yes it is a memory of that horrific attack on 4 young people, but it was just too fast in my opinion! Does anyone else wonder if that weapon was in the rumble of that house and now gone forever?
Speaking about the juror who was in a TH-cam livestream chat while in the jury box, I'm surprised that court didn't confiscate their phone. I've had jury summons sent to me in recent years and one of the requirements was "no cellphones" and if you have to bring one they would confiscate it at the courthouse door when you go through the metal detectors.
Ms. Taylor seemed overly concerned about being ready for the mitigation (i.e., "penalty") phase of the trial. Was that an indication that she was/is expecting a "guilty" verdict?
No, it’s an indication she’s trying to have her ducks in a row
What are we waiting for. Isn't better to get it going especially for the witnesses?
Talk about the judge not wanting "manipulation" of the public, by no camera on BK!!! As far as am concerned it's shocking, it's giving privileges (like wearing A SUIT) to the highly suspect in this case, I mean, like protecting his character, ???? It is, as you rightly say, vital for people to see his facial reactions, comportment, body language, especially as regards a psychopath!!! Can't believe how much 'favor' the Defence gets, and how 'controlling' this judge really! Is that part of a FAIR TRIAL??? Not according to MY values, Godly values I might add! Your video came on my TH-cam in UK today. Am following this unbelievable case, from Leeds, England, United Kingdom. Thank you for your great work, Line-Marie.
I think we had a better stream than we were getting. The sound was 110% better and you could understand every word I really appreciated that. Shout to you Emily and the judge.
If you are looking for stuff there is an important conservatorship (guardianship in Florida) in Los Angeles. Cher is trying to conserve her son. He's fighting it. There are people in the hearing willing to talk. California has changed it's law making it even easier to conserve an unwilling person. After what happened with Britney Spears that upsetting.
There is a hearing Monday in the Stanley Mosk Courthouse. It will be newsworthy.
There's no motivation , he's not placed at the scene , no positive id , no contact with the victims , no weapon . Nothing links him to any victim its all speculation so look at it objectively you'll see he can't be convicted there's nothing to convict him .
Something has to be done about this. He’s had enough camera time !!!! Get on with it judge !!!
These poor families
My heart breaks for them all 😢
The defense has nothing but looking for something the dude is caught an done plea out man an stop wasting time looking for any lil thing that's gonna help this guy he's done!!!
The bottom line is, even if a complicated case, it goes both ways. Yet the prosecutor is ready for trial this summer, but the defence is not. She stands there talking about their work and how much time it all takes. But it takes the same amount of time for the prosecutors and their work...
Take ya's time, GET it right the first time family may want their JUSTICE but will they get the justice they want out of a rushed trial ? It takes ONE small error to set him free and undo justice for them. THINK before JUMPING THE G*n guys,
Seriously strange case, with odd factors.
💜💜💜💜💜 thanks JB for having EDB on.
Saw that Emily was a guest. Clicked IMMEDIATELY!
So, has there been anymore killings by knives in the area since his arrest??
No
I believe the judge will set this trial for 2024…
Until idaho isnt corrupt this court means nothing to me
Oh wow! If he's found guilty, to save his life, they will use documentation from before he was born up to 3 generations...meaning they are looking for health documents related to psychological issues which may have been passed to BK causing him to commit a horrible crime against humanity, hoping for life imprisonment and not the death penalty.
Lol, that is not gonna happen. No ancestors, their history or dna would tell why he (if considered guilty) would do such a crime. Nor would it be something that could be used, preventing a possible death sentence.
Omitted to say am also against a proviso of keeping SILENT in answer to the plea question. It should be Guilty or Not Guilty, no abstaining from answering, which then is automatically turned into a Not Guilty! So why not way I plead Not Guilty??? Ridiculous! It's like here in the UK, under arrest, the suspect has got the right to say " no comment"??? I find that very irrational! Why should a suspect not answer a police officer/inspector's question, in order not to increminate him/herself??? If you are suspected of wrong doings, you should be made to answer every interview question, as a matter of course, or it's a travesty of procedures. Giving the enemy every possibility to wriggle itself out of trouble, is not ethical, or FAIR!!! Bless you JB, you are so excellent! Blessings from Line-Marie, Leeds, England, United Kingdom
when i look at brian's face, all i can feel is horror. that face is the last thing those poor babies saw. what horror. i know its innocent until proven guilty but that's how i feel when i look at his face. can't help it.
@@bambooprincess3495 yeah, the 2nd year freshman novice drug dealer was a 'baby'. lol. at 6'4" 225lbs. Cleanberger better clean up on the lawsuits after all this BS.
How superficial and rude. You say most people just want this over with?! I don’t believe that . Anyone with any bit of empathy would know that the house should of stayed up and the process needs to take however long it needs to take
@heyjb... could it be the neighbors audio/video that has the dog whimpering n barking??