It is getting harder and harder to find videos that are not commercials for a tool the person making the video was given. It is equally getting harder to find useful videos. Very well done and something useful. Thank you.
Jon, thank you for such a clear and seemingly simple demo on how to veneer, you make me believe I can do it too! The rounding push vs the J roller and the tin foil, great pro tips!
I like your thorough and patient explanation of the process. I'm planning a couple of bookcases for our living room remodel and was looking at using veneer. This was very good information for me to hear. I'll be posting the build on my channel as well. Thanks.
Very good video Jon. Just a tip - I've been using an aerosol contact cement sold at home centers and laminate dealers. 3M, Weld wood, and Wilsonart are the brands I've used. It's a little more expensive, but there's less cleanup (no rollers or trays). They sell 2 types - an orderless low VOC version, and the traditional one. Always use 2 good coats .
I have found that, when rolling contact cement, the cement tends to pull and ball up before I am done rolling. The result is many lumps and bumps in the cement that show through the veneer. Now I use only the spray cement to avoid this problem.
This is super helpful. I am going to make a record storage cabinet, and making miter joints seemed too daunting on such a large piece, so I was resigned to doing butt joints. But with how you veneered this, as if by magic, those butt joints became refined miter joints! I had been veneering the plywood before cutting it to size on other pieces, but I am definitely trying this method this time.
Great tutorial, Jon~! I always enjoy and learn from your How To videos. This build is looking great. Can't wait to see the finished product~! Thanks much~!
not sure if you addressed this but why not use black walnut plywood from the begging? By the time you factor in the cost of the veneer and time it takes to apply, wouldn't it be easier to just use black walnut ply?
@@KeimpieceCarpentry the main reason is because you would have to miter the corners of the cabinet… and you would see the edge banding. With this method, the veneer goes over the edge banding after the edge banding is applied.
This is wonderful. I wonder why this isn't more popular on TH-cam. People get excited over epoxy tables, that are really just glorified plastic tables. I don't understand
This looks really great. Cant wait to see the full build. How would you go about vineering the inside on a cabinet/wardrobe with this kind of vineer. Would you vineer it prior to assembly? Cheers and thanks for sharing.
Thanks! Yes, I would veneer the parts first… I have a project from almost 10 years ago on TH-cam, where I built end tables with ash and zebrawood using that process.
Beautiful looking piece. I like using a file to cut of the fuzzies. I think the one I use is a double cut for metal. Have you ever tried a file? Nice looking claro.
Thank you for your guidance! I have been restorating an old sewing machine and the little wooden drawer it came with is rectangular but its edges are rounded! I decided to veneer it because of the extensive damage in the old veneer. Should I use one piece or two to do the job? I believe the original had two sheets meeting in the middle of the sides. Thank you for reading! PS: This is my first try in veneering!
I’m not sure how many pieces you should use… but if you take your time, you should have no problem… I suggest veneering something small, even just a small piece of plywood to get warmed up.
Thank you so much for the video. I installed 3 mil wood veneer in my frame windows, but I didn't know what I was doing because it didn't stay glued. I stopped installing the veneer and for weeks I have been looking and watching videos but any of them had all the information and ideas that you are giving in your video. Now I know what was my mistakes and what I need to do. I am going to removed the veneer that I did to some windows frame and I am going to do the process in the way you did the cabinet. By the way do you have any video in how to install 3 mil wood veneer in windows frame? I don't know if the process will be different.
Excellent video my friend! can I ask what type of backing is used on the veneer you used? working on walnut shelving currently but have not ordered the veneer yet, any recommendations would be appreciated, Thanks
Thank you! It’s paper backed… The people at GL veneer are really easy to work with and will help answer any other questions you might have. Take a look at their website to see all the different wood species.
What’s the advantage of walnut veneer versus using walnut plywood? Is it more choice, cost? Seems veneer online is pricey versus what I can get a walnut 4x8 sheet for.
Two questions, Jon: Number one, why not make the face frame proud of the top of the cabinet (a tiny bit more than the thickness of the veneer), so the veneer edge butts against it, and there is no visible seam? Then you could use a flush cut bit on the veneer and frame. Two, could you also take out the sticks one or two at a time, so you don’t have to hold up all of the veneer at once? I have not veneered yet, but I would like to, and your videos make it very clear.
@@JonPetersArtHome I guess a clearer way to put question number one is: the way you do it, don’t you see a tiny seam at the top, when you’re looking at the cabinet from the front? Or is the veneer so thin, it doesn’t show.
I've always enjoyed working with contact cement with plastic laminate, haven't used it much with wood veneer, because all the books I've read or videos discourage its use and recommend using special veneer glue or resin glues. Great that you haven't had any problems in 25 years, what are your thoughts on those other authors being so against use of contact cement?
Thanks! I’ve never had any issues… I have a few pieces that I’ve built here on TH-cam some almost 10 years old. I think a good idea for a video will be too examine one of the pieces and see how they’re doing… I’m looking at one right now and absolutely no problems.
I wish you showed how to apply veneer on the edges as well. Most videos show the application of self-adhesive edge binding veneer, but what if one wants to cut and use sheet veneer?
How thick is the paper backing you select when ordering your veneer for contact cement installation: 10, 20, or 30 mil? Also, I wish that you would address the issue of why you don’t veneer both sides of your plywood. I’m always seeing woodworkers claim that you have to veneer both sides (even with contact cement) or else the plywood will eventually warp due to the imbalance, but that doesn’t seem to be a problem for you. I’m always appreciative of your veneering instructional videos…thank you!
Great video explanation Jon. Thanks for sharing the tips. I have an upcoming project that I will probably utilize this technique (a vinyl record player credenza for my home). Good to see that you can get awesome results with just the contact cement and piece of plywood, and don't need an expensive vacuum bag/pump combo to veneer. Do you recommend any specific online dealer for the veneer supplies?
Beautiful ✨ Again! Every time! Thank you! @michaelpavia7964 stated aerosol contact cement - these come in pressurised industrial canisters as well but the beauty of your roller&tray system lays in its simplicity: we all can afford it.
Would love to see a “how to” doing doors and drawer fronts with veneer! Thanks!
Cool! I’ll be including them in the project video coming soon.
It is getting harder and harder to find videos that are not commercials for a tool the person making the video was given.
It is equally getting harder to find useful videos. Very well done and something useful.
Thank you.
Thanks John! Funny thing I just finished Arnold’s book titled, Be Useful :) 👍
Jon, thank you for such a clear and seemingly simple demo on how to veneer, you make me believe I can do it too! The rounding push vs the J roller and the tin foil, great pro tips!
Awesome! Thanks Kevin… you definitely can! Practice on a few small scrap pieces first to get the hang of it and you’ll have no problem 👍
Jon, really liked this video - very timely as I was just thinking about wanting some basic instruction in veneering. Thanks for the great content.
Glad it was helpful!
I really love the way you work, so methodical and tidy. And your shop is pristine! Lots of great tips, thank you!
Thank you!
just found your account and your personality is perfect for my learning style. thanks!
Thanks that’s great to hear!
Estos videos no tienen pérdida alguna, aprendes mucho, y saludo al algoritmo y a los carpinteros del mundo
Great tips on veneering Jon. Thanks for sharing! You always do beautiful work. It inspires me!!!
Thanks Lori!
I like your thorough and patient explanation of the process. I'm planning a couple of bookcases for our living room remodel and was looking at using veneer. This was very good information for me to hear. I'll be posting the build on my channel as well. Thanks.
Thanks!
WOW, I am a newbe to the woodworking. That was neat to see, I had no idea.
Glad you liked it!
Looks amazing great job and great tips thanks for sharing
Thanks Jim
Very good video Jon. Just a tip - I've been using an aerosol contact cement sold at home centers and laminate dealers. 3M, Weld wood, and Wilsonart are the brands I've used. It's a little more expensive, but there's less cleanup (no rollers or trays). They sell 2 types - an orderless low VOC version, and the traditional one. Always use 2 good coats .
Thanks!
I have found that, when rolling contact cement, the cement tends to pull and ball up before I am done rolling. The result is many lumps and bumps in the cement that show through the veneer. Now I use only the spray cement to avoid this problem.
This is super helpful. I am going to make a record storage cabinet, and making miter joints seemed too daunting on such a large piece, so I was resigned to doing butt joints. But with how you veneered this, as if by magic, those butt joints became refined miter joints! I had been veneering the plywood before cutting it to size on other pieces, but I am definitely trying this method this time.
Cool! Glad the video was helpful Ryan… this process opens up a ton of design options and it’s really easy to get the hang of.
Cool perspective with router around 18:50.
Great tutorial, Jon~! I always enjoy and learn from your How To videos. This build is looking great. Can't wait to see the finished product~! Thanks much~!
Awesome, thank you!
Really looking for to finished product. This is really looking great. I too am a big fan of mid-century pieces.
Cool thanks! Love the clean look of mid century modern 👍
Great video, i will use this info for laminating formica on my shop cabinets
Glad it was helpful!
Nice project. Thanks for sharing
Thanks Tony.
Amazing wood work
Thanks!
I'll do my first veenered bookshelf soon and this video was very helpful. Thank you.
@@stefanopassiglia great! Glad it helped 👍
THANKS FOR THE VIDEO
Thank you Jon, that was very informative and helpful 👌👍👍💯
Thanks Steve!
The waterfall looks great.
Thanks!
Nice job Jon. You and your new channel with Green Street should hold live training classes, I would be interested...🤘🤘🤘
Thanks! Thats a great idea!
not sure if you addressed this but why not use black walnut plywood from the begging? By the time you factor in the cost of the veneer and time it takes to apply, wouldn't it be easier to just use black walnut ply?
@@KeimpieceCarpentry the main reason is because you would have to miter the corners of the cabinet… and you would see the edge banding. With this method, the veneer goes over the edge banding after the edge banding is applied.
@@JonPetersArtHome thanks sense thanks!
amazing work
Thanks!
This is wonderful. I wonder why this isn't more popular on TH-cam. People get excited over epoxy tables, that are really just glorified plastic tables. I don't understand
Thank you! I really appreciate it! and definitely feel the same about all those epoxy projects 🤦♂️
This is the tutorial I need....
Thanks Art ! I’m glad it helped 👍
This looks really great. Cant wait to see the full build. How would you go about vineering the inside on a cabinet/wardrobe with this kind of vineer. Would you vineer it prior to assembly? Cheers and thanks for sharing.
Thanks! Yes, I would veneer the parts first… I have a project from almost 10 years ago on TH-cam, where I built end tables with ash and zebrawood using that process.
Beautiful looking piece.
I like using a file to cut of the fuzzies. I think the one I use is a double cut for metal.
Have you ever tried a file?
Nice looking claro.
Thanks! I’ll have to give that a try 👍
@JonPetersArtHome I wrap blue painters tape on the end. Prevents scratches.
I'm sure you👍already know.
Thank you for your guidance! I have been restorating an old sewing machine and the little wooden drawer it came with is rectangular but its edges are rounded! I decided to veneer it because of the extensive damage in the old veneer. Should I use one piece or two to do the job? I believe the original had two sheets meeting in the middle of the sides. Thank you for reading! PS: This is my first try in veneering!
I’m not sure how many pieces you should use… but if you take your time, you should have no problem… I suggest veneering something small, even just a small piece of plywood to get warmed up.
What is the tool you used to trim off the edges?
sh*t that was close... LOL!
🤣
😂 that was close 😅
Thank you so much for the video. I installed 3 mil wood veneer in my frame windows, but I didn't know what I was doing because it didn't stay glued. I stopped installing the veneer and for weeks I have been looking and watching videos but any of them had all the information and ideas that you are giving in your video. Now I know what was my mistakes and what I need to do. I am going to removed the veneer that I did to some windows frame and I am going to do the process in the way you did the cabinet. By the way do you have any video in how to install 3 mil wood veneer in windows frame? I don't know if the process will be different.
Thanks, glad to hear it. I don’t and have never done that… I will look it up
Excellent video my friend! can I ask what type of backing is used on the veneer you used? working on walnut shelving currently but have not ordered the veneer yet, any recommendations would be appreciated, Thanks
Thank you! It’s paper backed… The people at GL veneer are really easy to work with and will help answer any other questions you might have. Take a look at their website to see all the different wood species.
What’s the advantage of walnut veneer versus using walnut plywood? Is it more choice, cost? Seems veneer online is pricey versus what I can get a walnut 4x8 sheet for.
contact cement vs peel and stick, which one is better for rough mdf surface? Thank you!
I would say contact cement… either one though it’s important to have a smooth surface.
Two questions, Jon:
Number one, why not make the face frame proud of the top of the cabinet (a tiny bit more than the thickness of the veneer), so the veneer edge butts against it, and there is no visible seam? Then you could use a flush cut bit on the veneer and frame.
Two, could you also take out the sticks one or two at a time, so you don’t have to hold up all of the veneer at once?
I have not veneered yet, but I would like to, and your videos make it very clear.
I’m not sure about the first question, the second question you can remove the sticks in whatever way works best at the moment
@@JonPetersArtHome I guess a clearer way to put question number one is: the way you do it, don’t you see a tiny seam at the top, when you’re looking at the cabinet from the front? Or is the veneer so thin, it doesn’t show.
@@johnsrabe the veneer is so thin you will never see it.
@@JonPetersArtHome Even better. Thanks!
What thickness of veneer do you recommend for a beginner? I would assume there is a sever price difference between qualities as well.
10 mil
Will veneers hold up in high moisture areas?
Should be fine as long as it’s not outside.
Very nice cabinet Jon! 👍🏻Where did you get the veneer? Thank you as always for sharing your work!
Thanks! GL Veneer
@@JonPetersArtHome Thanks
I've always enjoyed working with contact cement with plastic laminate, haven't used it much with wood veneer, because all the books I've read or videos discourage its use and recommend using special veneer glue or resin glues. Great that you haven't had any problems in 25 years, what are your thoughts on those other authors being so against use of contact cement?
I’d like to know Jon’s opinion as well. I’d like to get into veneering and this method seems better to me than having to have a press or vacuum bag.
Thanks! I’ve never had any issues… I have a few pieces that I’ve built here on TH-cam some almost 10 years old. I think a good idea for a video will be too examine one of the pieces and see how they’re doing… I’m looking at one right now and absolutely no problems.
That question brought me here and got my answer!
(You got a new subscriber) 👍🏻
I wish you showed how to apply veneer on the edges as well. Most videos show the application of self-adhesive edge binding veneer, but what if one wants to cut and use sheet veneer?
It’s on the full project video on my channel
How thick is the paper backing you select when ordering your veneer for contact cement installation: 10, 20, or 30 mil?
Also, I wish that you would address the issue of why you don’t veneer both sides of your plywood. I’m always seeing woodworkers claim that you have to veneer both sides (even with contact cement) or else the plywood will eventually warp due to the imbalance, but that doesn’t seem to be a problem for you.
I’m always appreciative of your veneering instructional videos…thank you!
10 mil, I haven’t had a problem, bearing one side of plywood… I think that might be more of an issue when you’re working with MDF
I didn’t see drawer sliders for the drawers. I’m surprised you didn’t use them , any reason why?
I’m using wooden drawer slides on this project
Jon, where do you get your wood veneer?
GL Veneer
"this stuff's pretty expensive" got me shading tears
Is that a foam roller ?
No, it is a mohair roller
@@JonPetersArtHome thanks..
16:28 isn’t it crazy how you can think you say one thing, and it turns out, you said something entirely different? Happens to me all the time.
Definitely happens to me way more than I’d like to admit🤦♂️😂
11:00
Great video explanation Jon. Thanks for sharing the tips.
I have an upcoming project that I will probably utilize this technique (a vinyl record player credenza for my home). Good to see that you can get awesome results with just the contact cement and piece of plywood, and don't need an expensive vacuum bag/pump combo to veneer. Do you recommend any specific online dealer for the veneer supplies?
Glad it was helpful!
🎉
i was taught to never apply glue to the vaneer on the subs.
Not sure what… subs is
That respiratory doesn’t do anything…. It is only effective if you spray.
Ok
Beautiful ✨ Again! Every time! Thank you! @michaelpavia7964 stated aerosol contact cement - these come in pressurised industrial canisters as well but the beauty of your roller&tray system lays in its simplicity: we all can afford it.
Thanks!
What is the tool you used to trim off the edges?
It’s a router with a flush cut bit