German cops all have guns and often carry them. If on patrol on major traffic hubs like airports or trainstations even automatic weapons such as the MP5 are common
@@johannesstaudenrauss9904that makes little difference in that regard. The state police is also carrying weapons, in Saxony they are allowed to put a mounted gun on their armored vehicles and in Bavaria they are allowed to carry grandes. Nither is done (to my knowledge) but they could do that.
@@petermuller9940On the contrary it's been used in many military , paramilitary, police tactical units the world over the MP5 I think. But I do think it's a bit overkill in a normal police force only in police tactical units would it be suitable IMHO. Also I think the MP5 also has a selective fire and semi-Automatic variant I don't know which one they were using here was it a full auto like you say ? What kind of firearm do German police ,state or local carry with them usually ?
8:59 yes. In Germany it's used thst way. Because if sth happens it's always "he said, she said" like, if police and suspect have some fight everyone of the involved can claim that they were the victim. Suspect will say the police started it, police said the suspect started it. With the camera both parties know, they are beeing filmed and most "suspects" or people that are questioned by the police realize, when they start the fight, they will definetly lose. So the camera deescalates, before sth bad happens. At least some of the time. Some people don't care if they are beeing filmed. But most people do.
Those body cams have a screen that shows the real-time footage that's being recorded, which is the major feature they were going for. When people are visibly aware that they are being recorded, functionally having a mirror put up against them, there is some psychology going on that makes many people rethink their current actions on a level below "Oh, I'm being recorded, better not do anything illegal now".
No he wasn't arrested for insulting someone, he physically attacked someone and then wanted to file a complaint because he claimed to have been insulted. Insult is technically illegal in Germany yes, but prosecution for that doesn't usually happen because most people wouldn't call the police for that. In this case he's probably trying to simply reduce the blame on himself (in some cases insult can justify self defense).
Im not even sure if insults alone, without a 2nd charge, would warrant an arrest. Yes its illegal, but I think Cops would just tell you to leave, write everything down and just arrest you if you dont leave or act agressive etc... The last part about self defense is indeed interesting, would love to see a WBS Video about that topic.😁 If there is no other way to stop someone from insulting you, its legal to use reasonable force to defend yourself in Germany. But in the end its up to the courts and as long as you could just walk away instead of using "self defense", I doubt the process would end good for you...
According to Wikipedia, insulting someone could get you a fine or jail for up to a year. In "severe" cases the jailtime could jump to up to 2 years. A court in Munich for example decided to fine someone for 100 Tagessätze (Monthly income divided by 30) for wearing a shirt saying "ACAB"
@@KingSteven26 It is illegal, but German police would not arrest you for insulting somebody. In order to prosecute this crime, the insulted person has to press charges.
@@MasterPMDP 1. There's no such thing as Beamtenbeleidigung in criminal law in Germany. It's just Beleidigung. 2. It can cost you more. 1000€ is the maximum in the criminal case, but in civil court where the insulted sue for damages the amount can still go up. 3. A lot of basic rules of civilization of first world countries and actual democracies are unthinkable in the US. They have signed even less human rights treaties than Russia. The US also has automatic immunity for the president, not in form of immunity but in form of "what a president in office does can't be illegal, and hence can't be prosecuted" - That's usual for dictatorships, not for democracies.
Ryan, there are about 5 policemen killed in Germany in one year. In the US its about 1000. Our cops are great. Mostly friendly, helpfull, well educated and always very calm and polite. These video cams are not used to protect the suspects but mainly to protect our policemen. I am very, very happy to live in a country where we don´t have to be afraid of the police. I was shocked when I was in the US and realised how terrified people are when only being pulled over by the cops for some minor traffic issues.
Relatively great, but in need of serious, fundamental, revolutionary improvements. Fascist rhetoric and Nazi Apologia are widespread issues in the German police and Police violence has been getting worse as antidemocratic crackdowns on anti-Genocide Palestine Supporters has been a very large issue recently (to be fair, German society and politics has a general problem with widespread support for the antisemitic Zionist ideology). 1312
To their defense: in Germany you also don't have to expect the amount of firearms (legal and illegal) on the average person. You won't have that on _any_ civilians, basically. So, the danger of being shot at in a traffic stop is near zero if you are not in a "lost" town like Berlin or FFM.
You should be afraid of the police if you are under 40 and drive a car or motorcycle. Police could stop your drive at any point and take you to a doctor for a blood sample. This can take the whole night and doesn’t require provable evidence. They can also „doubt“ the legal status of your vehicle and confiscate it even if you have every document needed.
14:40 "Beamtenbeleidigung" (insultinging an officer on duty) is a term media love to throw around. This is just a regular insult. The law making insulting an officer a different crime was dropped a long time ago. In Germany the police has the right to perform a "Allgemeine Personenkontrolle" (general person check) that does not need any reason (in a reasonable fashion of course) that's what the police officer told those two guys. He did not press any charges, but sent the guys away from the "party location" until the next morning. He told them they have had enough booze without telling them they had enough booze.
Insulting people is not covered by freedom of speech, or rather freedom of opinion what we call it in Germany and you can be sued and charged according to your income
Yeah, many people don't realize that. The first article of the german constitution says "Human dignity is inviolable" (or rather "The Dignity of a human..."). While this is primarily a guideline for the action of the state (through executive, legislative or jurisdictial action), it is also the basis of the personal rights, which - among a lot of other things - demand that a person's honour is to be upheld. So insulting someone PERSONALLY (that's really important, you can very much insult a group that is not sufficiently surveyable and open, as long as you don't incite hatred or violence) is forbidden, because your freedom of speech doesn't trump a person's dignity. Therefore we have a freedom of opinion, not of speech. You have to express your opinions without using insults or defamations. And personally as a german, I very much appreciate that.
Btw, DW stands for 'Deutsche Welle' (literally 'German Wave') which is our international broadcasting service initially meant for Germans abroad. Nowadays it's pretty much an investigative and information service.
"Hooligan" is a completely football-related term. These are the fans who show their love for the team by hitting each other in the face. Whoever wins improves the reputation of the fan scene. In most cases, this happens somewhere where there are no bystanders present. I don't want to judge whether the guy in the video is actually a hooligan or just a trashy guy.
The first guy wore a Lonsdale jacket. This british brand is loved by the right wingers/nazis as the middle letters show NSDA, which alludes to „NSDAP“ equal nazi party. This party name is else forbidden to be shown off. So the hint of him being a well known nazi-fan is absolutely not far fetched.
funnily enough: The company itself is very much distancing itself from the right for many years now and the brand is still worn by punks and leftwing skinheads (yes, those exist). So, that alone is a bit of a stretch. Still possible that he is a well known nazi fan though, the scene is rather known to police.
About the privacy rights vs. camera: At 1:54 you can see the cop wearing something yellow with the text VIDEO AUFZEICHNUNG (video recording). As soon as you make people aware that there's a camera (like in stores or at entrances) it is legally fine. That's why they additionally point it out verbally.
4:05 "Hooligan" or "Ultra" usually means a more or less radical soccer fan in Germany, and the fans are even categorized(by police) in A/B/C for peaceful, could maybe use violence, or is violent. So its not just a informal word here, but also kinda a category, even though I bet the "Fussballfans" on here will be able to explain it better than I did...
@Moni-y1q I never said that, nor did I want to suggest that, I guess Ultras would probably be "Kategorie B" for the Cops? I dont like soccer or group sports in general and never cared about watching others do sports at all...
@@KingSteven26 The categories doesn't have to do anything with being part of a group. It's about behavior and crimes an individual did. When you never had anything to do with violence or other crimes you can be the Capo of an Ultra group and are literally "Kategorie A". Also you can be "Kategorie C" without having anything to do with any groups. It's about the individuum not groups.
Couples used to have several children because half of them died within a few years. But nobody knew which would die so every child was being cared for. Nowadays no couple needs even one child to care for them at old age.
Here in Germany there is a statute that prohibits the taping of the non-public spoken word. Nearby there is a statute that prohibits filming AND publishing the pictures of a person without consent. Thats why the hooligan is blured in vision and his speech is only availabe of special circumstances of public news. So there are very restricted cases to film and publishing Police encounters. But that also open a hole in the law to do it lawfuly. If you ask/order zur police to turn on their bodycam and they do it, you are allowed to film and publish them either. There are some other circumstances to film the police but not publish it for proof in court. Filming? -> not for publishing Audio? -> factical public (if the police couldt[!] imagine that another person couldt hear them)
fun fact about insulting police officers. It's more likely a high level punishment than punching the officer in a defensive act. Because punching is resisting police and the insult is not resisting police. In Germany resisting police is a special case to protect the citizen in what he can face as punishment as when facing police it means "facing the whole strength of the state". So the punishment is usually lower than when hurting another citizen or can even be no punishment when you are able to make clear in front of a court that you thought the police wasn't allowed to act or you tried to defend yourself. I know in US the resisting police thing is seen in a different way. Crazy US cases I saw are when going limp when arrested is resisting and when going stiff is resisting too. Even trying to protect oneself from getting hit is sometimes seen as resisting police.
5:30 The hooligan had a jacket from Lo-nsda-le, that is common for people they believe in the NSDAP. You have to expect to be condemned/insulted or called a bad person from WW2
Yes. A football fan with Lonsdale clothing and a history of violent behaviour is unfortunately a good indicator for his political alignment in germany.
I don't think that our police will release bodycam footage except after it had been used in a trial. Otherwise the protection of privacy will forbid it. Happy new year!
Having less kids actually contributes to the dynamic, Ryan. When there's more kida, then they most learn more social skills between siblings who are all growing and all started out as dysregulated mess, whereas just living with parents can mean they constantly manage their feelings because they can but you, the only child, may not learn to do it well yourself and you're used to escaping situations. You can't escape family intern struggles the same way. There's a higher incentive to actually learn how to sort problems out. On the down side, when the family as a whole is dysfunctional, then not having siblings can mean all negativity concentrates on the single child 😥 In short: it's complicated. All has wanted and unwanted sides to it
When a person participates in a public event (e.g., demonstrations, street festivals, concerts), it can generally be assumed that photos or videos may be taken there. In such cases, filming individuals is permitted if they are part of a larger crowd and not specifically highlighted or singled out. (§ 23 of the German Art Copyright Act, KunstUrhG).
There are exceptions tho. Especially in case of a concert: Yes, it's public in terms of everyone can buy a ticket. It's not public enough that you have the right to take pictures according to the paragraph you picked out here tho. A lot of organizers don't allow photo or video recordings on their premises. Sometimes bc they don't want it but sometimes the band doesn't want it. If you go to any TOOL concert, you will always find that recordings of any kind aren't allowed. The organizers have extra staff that checks and is allowed to kick you out if they find you recording. It is called "Hausrecht". And even street festivals can have "Hausrecht" and restrictions if they are inclosed with a fence or another barrier of any kind and have permission from the city administration to exclusively use the area. Every booth at a Christmas market has "Hausrecht". Some of the Glühwein-booths have a heated side room you can enter for an extra fee. The owner of the booth is totally in the right to forbid ppl to take pictures inside. So, it not as easy as layman as yourself think. Law is NOT easy. There is a reason ppl have to study it a looooooooooong time and have to take 2 state examinations before they are allowed to work as a lawyer. It's simply not as easy as picking out some paragraph and just reciting it from the book. 😂
14:40 Beamtenbeleidigung is actually a Myth. It comes from the fundamental law of "The dignity of the human is inviolable." which means the insult needs to be directed at only 1 officer, and the officer needs to be insulted enough to claim to have been accosted at his dignity. Only if all these conditions align can the cop charge these people. Flipping the bird can be seen as a general insult directed at all cops, and therefore is disrespect the cops has to endure. 16:30 These cops actually are on a power trip, because the general insults are free speech in America, or they're on a fishing expedition, because unlike in Germany, American cops are incentivized to make arrests, and are masters at turning a consensual encounter into an arrest, because the arrest alone is what they get paid for, not that the person they arrested actually goes to prison for whatever charges they came up with. (even when the law doesn't exist)
It is still funny. German police: We use bodycams to secure ourselfs and have to announce it clearly that we record you. American police: We use bodycams to protect the citizens from our trigger happy officers and these are often disabled because we don´t want our professional immunity to be challenged.
@@RSProduxx its also an entirely mindset of respect.. i saw a lot of videos of U.S. police get insulted and disrespecting and claiming they pay them so they should do what teh citizens told them to do.. that statemet alone is stupid enough. on top every person could be armed becouse the U.S. has such loose weaponlaws.. so there is much more tension between police and citizens..if you at danger to shot everytime you go somewhere you are in permanent stress.. on top the "free speech" and the mindset of police is always the enemy is a big issue in the US and a growing issue here in germany.. (but without guns.. but more and more knives)
@@lr-forge2337 That's what we're starting to get here as well. People behaving like absolut shitheads and then being mad when police don't kiss their ass.
What do you expect in a third world dictatorship shit hole country that trains their cops for 18 weeks instead of educating them for at least 3 years like in Germany 🤷
The captions are auto generated, it's often nonsense. It understood "Dämon" (demon) at 17:50, but what he said was actially "in dem Moment" (in that moment). It misheard the "dem Mom..." part.
The bodycam of a judicial officer is a usable tool in court and is intended to protect the officer from giving false testimony in Germany. The camera may only be turned on with prior notice in Germany because then the personal right to film and image is overridden by data protection for the person in the situation.
to add to your birthrate analysis: the "pill" came out in the 60's, resulting in a steep decline in birth rates, because for the first time women could control if they want to a have a child or not. and in germany in went up longer, because people wanted to have kids after the war and also the "Wirtschaftswunder" (economic miracle) was in full effect and people lived in prosperous conditions.
16:42 they didn't really arrest the guys for flipping them off or anything, it's illegal, but nothing that would go further in court or smth. They just expelled them from the public area for that day.
My experience here in Germany is, that if you do not have a gun, you discuss the incident calm and factual with the police. They treat you with the same respect you show to them. Why would they be intimidating? I am sure this changes quickly if you are a threat to them or to anybody else. But this is why they are there. After all, they have to restore order.
One of the reasons to use a body cam is that nowadays any behavior of police officers is filmed by spectators and published on the media. It seems to me, that it's in the interest of the officers to also have a version which shows the event from start to end.
US Bodycam footage: People get shot. Dogs get shot. People and dogs get shot. People get tased. People get pepper sprayed. People just get a good old fashioned beating from multible officers. German Bodycam footage: Some drunk soccer fan argues with an officer over a case of insult.
8:44 The "behaving better because of the filming" thing doesn't work so well in the US. People are used to being filmed everywhere and are crazy enough to not care about freaking out on camera. The Germans prefer to freak out unrecorded and of course here in the comments, in the supposed anonymity of the internet, which only partially exists.
The is a law in germany called "Violation of the confidentiality of the spoken word" or "Strafgesetzbuch (StGB) § 201 Verletzung der Vertraulichkeit des Wortes" That is the one that prohibits to record most police interactions because they will sue you. I don't know why police officers are allowed to do that but "One crow doesn't peck out another crow's eye" or "honor among thieves" or some bullshit.
@@viperpit-k5j well, I'm not sure, we can agree on a definition of the term woke... so I don't even try. But I like independent reviews of journalism. mediabiasfactcheck has a review of DW and rates it slightly left-center, which doesn't align with the typical populist definition of "woke", which would be extreme-left.
@@RubenKelevra can you even comprehend what I meant? I don't think so, maybe you're German though and English is not your first language though which is my only thinking which makes sense. To clarify I am stating somebody else said this and it is bullcrap.
@viperpit-k5j there's no language barrier here, I understood that someone else was saying that, and that you think it's bullcrap. But saying it's "bullcrap" is no argument, so I gave you an argument. :)
In Germany, flipping off a police officer can cost you a *lot* of money, because it's illegal. In the US, flipping off a police officer might not be illegal, but it could get you tazed or killed.
Sadly the disrepect against all public servants (and amongst humans in general) has increased drastically: police officers, firefighters, EMT, teachers, etc., and it will probably increase further. I am a teacher in Germany, not even a veteran one, and the things I have to deal with today compared to 17 years ago are staggering. Remembering my own school days in the 80's, I I can say with certainty, we would have never dared act up or speak like that.
It is not just Germany... we have exactly the same trend. 😢 These images of Mainz are still pretty chill compared to for example Brussels. Since you are a teacher, has the average level of the students dropped? It has overhere in Flanders. We used to be top in Mathemathics and science, on par with the strong asian countries. But now the level has dropped significantly. Sadly enough because a large portion of young kids do not speak dutch at home and thus lack an in depth understanding, and often come from a religious culture that in fact dismisses our values, teachings and scientific methods. It is hard to accept, but this is the reality we have to deal with.
@@Wim1979 Yes, reading comprehension, mathematic skills, etc. have all declined drastically. With each new turnover of students after 4 years of primary school, you notice less and less basic skills. But I can't attribute that to immigration issues. I work in a school district with basically less than 5% immigrants. It is the general decline which is way worse. Kids aren't going outside anymore, lacking fine motor skills. Kids raised by television and other media, whose brains are hardwired for 30 sec instant gratification and concentration. Kids that never learned to play certain games to boost their memory and their frustration levels. Kids that never learned social skills, because they socialised mostly with a TV, Ipad or mobile phone instead of playing with others. Kids that can't hold a pencil, use a pair of scissors, tie their shoes or even put on a jacket without getting stuck. How should we teach children that lack the basic skills to even attend school?
Ich bin auch Lehrerin (Grundschule), auf dem Land an einer Minischule (ca. 40 Kinder). Auch bei uns sind nicht viele Kinder mit Immigrationshintergrund. Trotzdem kann ich das bestätigen, was du geschrieben hast! Keine Basisfähigkeiten mehr + keinerlei Anstrengungsbereitschaft und die Merkfähigkeit eines Kolibris. Wir haben inzwischen jedes Jahr Kinder in der 1. Klasse sitzen, die nicht Fahrrad fahren/schwimmen können… auf dem Land! Vor ein paar Wochen hat meine Kollegin bei unseren Dritt-/ Vierklässlern in Mathe Aufgaben mit Monaten machen wollen… deprimierend viele wussten nicht mal mehr, dass das Jahr 12 Monate hat… haben es ja nur wochenlang behandelt, mit Kalendern gearbeitet und es immer wieder (nebenbei) wiederholt 🤦♀️… es ist sehr deprimierend 😑. Und dann die Unverschämtheiten von Kindern wie auch Eltern unserem Berufsstand gegenüber 🙄…!
Living in the city centre and seeing parents with their children on the daily, I feel like it has a lot to do with people enforcing 0 discipline on their children. And by that I don't mean hitting your children or shouting at them, which would be wrong, but literally letting them do whatever they want without any consequences whatsoever. I could be wrong but I feel like parenting, as an overcorrection from the strict parenting of earlier generations, has become way too soft. You can barely call it parenting anymore. Again, I don't advocate for physical or emotional violence here, I'm just saying it feels like there are no boundaries at all for children these days.
It is actually practical to record the entire work day. Dash cams do that all the time. They save every second, and if the storage is full, it starts by overwriting the oldest recording, unless the "save video" button was pressed, in which case that five minute chunk is protected and can only be deleted manually.
I can recommend the documentary "Nachtstreife" from ARD. It's a really interesting documentary about the German police and their work at night AND it's not a million years old. The police cars haven't been green since 2004 or so 😅
They were using very VERY old video material at the beginning where our police still had beige and green uniforms (and green cars). Sadly the translation on you tube is faulty. Some things got translated wrong I saw as you watched the video...
As a citizen, you may call for a police if you were insulted on the street and can do a charge of defamation against another. But the dude was not respectful to the officer, didn't use formal, but informal language and stepped into the officer's comfort zone. A lot what the dude said wasn't even comprehensible in german. We have formal "they" and informal "you" in german language and it is considered extremely rude to not use german "they" as the first step to escalate the situation. The officer called the dude out to use informal language and keep the distance. The translation was bad - so it might help to understand the situation.
as german i cant understand why these bodycams are not standard. a typically german complicated way...but already its hard to give the police digital Radio Sets...
The problem is that the officers self decide if they want to turn the cam on. As most of you know, there is less police violence in Germany, but of course it exists and they of course never turn on the body cam if they are doing something like police violence.
8:55 Yeah the power dynamic is different over here. Here the bodycam is ther to protect the officers because they get abused a lot. In america the police is more likely to be abusive and get away with it
Whenever I get checked and the cop has a cam I actually ask them to turn it on, so that there is a clear record of events. I also try to get their name and/or "badge number" (not all police have that in Germoney and it may be called something else) and if possible I actually ask them if I can record as well. I am a really nice guy, and try to get them to not feel threatened, especially because I sometimes carry LEGAL weapons, but the weapons law is extremely complex so it can often take some explaining.
First thing i thought at the start: "Wow thats an oold video" German police changed colors from this green and "yellowish" white to blue, white and black. The cars look different too. My dad is a state policeman working for ~25 years and i now own 2 old jackets (tho waay too big) with the old patches. Obviously i cant wear it outside but its cool to own.
@@daggel011 i haven't seen them in ages tbh. Only once still green are sometimes Zoll. Tho sometimes at bigger state events they put the old once at display
@@Avi-rn6ei Bavaria never joined the rest of Germany in changing to the blue uniforms and cars, they are still using the green and beige color pattern. In Germany for a long time, blue was reserved for the THW, The decision to change that, was made because of the fact, that internationally blue is the most recognized color for Police, red for the Fire Department and white for health services. But Bavaria is naturally to conservative to change^^, now their Police is even less recognizable :), soon they will be able to wear their uniforms for undercover ops^^.
@@KettenSyndicate of course bavaria already changed, just much later then the rest of germany, and they oriented themself, of cours, on the blue austrian police uniforms, there are still green BMWs in munich, because they are still new and work very good, like in Northrhine-Westfalia almost all are blue, but there are stil some green Busses, like VW Busse, because they still work good.
@@philipschulze2.070 Oh my bad, I did not know this, I work in a small Bavarian town and the police is still wearing green, so I thought this was the norm.
Many people (even here in Germany) don't really understand the concept of "Freedom of Opinion". We don't have an absolute Freedom of Speech here, we have many rights (collectively known as Communicative Fundamental Rights): Freedom of Press, Freedom of Information, Freedom of Opinion, etc. Those have to be balanced with the Basic Human Right to Dignity (First Article of the german constitution: Human dignity is inviolable). This Right is anchored for one in the historical german idea of someone's honour (historically being a mixture of reputation and dignity) being really important. The other big reason for this right being so important is our Nazi past, where human dignity was violated in many, many ways. So: Your right to freedom of expression/speech ends, where another one's right to personal dignity starts. You have to express your opinions without personally insulting or defamations. Really important: That only applies to personal insults. You can insult a nondescriptive, large group of people indirectly, as long as you don't cross the line to hatespeech/inciting of violence. You could for example use the old "ACAB"-slogan in a generall way, but adressing a distinct group of policemen as assholes would not fly.
The term hooligan refers particulary to violent soccer fans as in this case. And yes, in germany is that a common word for this group of people. By the way his jacket of the brand Londsdale maybe is a hint to neo- nazi connections.
The switch from the yellow green uniform and green cars to blue was ages ago, with the exception of Bavaria. The last one i saw off those was 17 to 20 years ago.
Yes! Insulting someone is a crime in most European countries! A small one, rarely punished, but can be used additionally to other misbehavior. Insulting any official on duty, will surely result in a fine. Discrimination and discriminatory insults in public will be fined as well and if severe can be reason for arrest and prosecution. D. Trump would be arrested in every EU country, if he speaks his mind out publicly, and he will be, unless while president and under diplomatic protection.
Hallo! In Germany it is very unlikely that firearms will be used, but in America it's really crazy what's going on and what you hear about the police -
Yes, that attack in Mannheim happened in May '23. The fountain on Market Square is still a place of unofficial mourning and reflection, and the municipality has announced that it will put up a permanent memorial.
Berlin and Bavaria have had green police cars for a pretty long period of time, I would say until 2024. Because I have been to Bavaria this year (2024) and have seen the blue police cars for the very first time. Last year all their cars have been green.
2:02 for us: one year ago one policeman got stabbed and all remember because it's so rare. In the us: everyday multible policemen get shot, stabbed or killed in all other ways just too crazy there
You should watch die Anstalt episode about german police (march 14th, 2023). The one that starts of with the mud wizard of Lüzerath :D. Talks about all the times those cameras aren't running
What might be odd to americans is that the right of self defence includes defending your honor in germany. If someone is attacking your honor you can defend it with reasonable means, that includes physical violence if words arent enough. But mind you its only self defence when its neccessary to stop an attack on your honor. If the attack is over and you are just angry you cant just beat em up to let off some steam. If the attack is over your right to defend yourself ends with it.
That film is very old, not 5 years ago! Look at the cars! Seems to be a mix from different decades... With those translations I would be confused too! 🤨🤔🙄 Translating deescalation to escalation was a first for me!
7:35 The automatic translation was so bad. It is not that the hooligan insulted the policemen, in fact the fervent soccer fan wanted to report insults hurled at him by a third party. The police officers were having none of it, because, as the voiceover says, the guy was already trying to stir trouble mere hours prior. The insults in question were "Missgeburt" (malformed birth) and"Nazi", both are not exactly _fun_ insults. Once the guy realizes that the officer is not on his side, he starts becomeing agitated and slipping into informal pronouns. After seeing something brewing out of that lapse in respectful langauge the police officer turns on the cam. Also the guy was reminded to watch his tone.
Guy was wearing a Lonsdale jacket - even if the company tried to get away from the right-wing image, that's "nazi?" is the one thing I'd ask myself upon seeing him.
11:00 sadly this also happens in Germany quite frequently. If the Police did something wrong sometimes the camera footage just magically disappeared. Overall still very happy with out Police in general.
@Ryan Wass A Hooligan is a violent soccer fan and they're mostly known by the police because they get filmed and identified during soccer games in stadiums.
"Hooligan" as a term is specifically used for violent "Fußball Fans" which is a very specific scene that came from England decades ago. It´s a thing all around Europe.
15:11 But the report is really not particularly accurate. There is no such thing as insulting officials (Beamtenbeleidung). This is a common term, but insulting someone is generally illegal. Officials or not. However, there are special rules. For example, you cannot address a police officer informally.This also falls under insult because one does not take the office seriously (roughly explained). But there are now rulings such as A.C.A.B. is not a criminal offense because it does not address a specific person. That somehow falls under freedom of expression. Complicated.
Btw. Streife, is not streif it is Streif E/Ä. And like 1 month ago, a police officer came into our school, and teached us about "rights about our own pictures/videos" and he had a Stick (to punch), a Gun anda Tazer. He was nice, and i talked as i brouth him to the other class room, that i want to be in the "FreiwilligeFeuerwehr" and in german, it sounds so gooooood to say that😂😂😂❤❤❤
Simple past von „to teach“ ist „taught“, nicht „teached“. Und für „to bring“ wäre es „brought“, nicht „brouth“. Die bösen irregular verbs. Da sind wir ja alle mal durch. ;-) Wir können ja nicht immer nur Ryan berichtigen, sondern uns auch gegenseitig. Aber inhaltlich spannender Kommentar. Ich wünsche dir einen Guten Rutsch!
The prerequisite for the use of body cameras is that their use is NECESSARY to protect against threats to the life, limb, property or freedom of the police officer or others, or that the use of the body cameras is of SIGNIFICANT importance in the prosecution of criminal offenses or administrative offenses. This means that body cameras must not be switched on routinely. In cases of doubt, the person is often asked whether they agree to being filmed. Many Germans are much more sensitive to being filmed than the average American, which is why it makes sense to carefully consider whether the use of the body camera is NECESSARY.
This and you don't want to use tools randomly and numb ppl to their use. You also don't want to produce work by having tons of footage to sift through!
They can delete parts of the recordings, or usually all of it, and claim that it was not recorded. If they are going to harass you, it is silly to expect them to record themselves. It's like saying that robbers should go and let themselves arrest to the police station after a robbery to increase our safety. This isn't gonna work.
Well, I guess you could demand that they record everything and the lack of recording would make them accountable - as like if you refuse to make a drug test while driving, you are charged as if you were intoxicated. But it still has issues at court - you can "charge them for not recording", but it is harder to prove they did whatever they choose to do to you.
After thinking about it more, if not having a recording would lead to suspension/being fired, it could work, even though you fail to prove their misconduct. It could be a good deterrent from disrespectful encounters.
There is a huge imbalance. The police are allowed to record using body cameras. As a person who has dealings with the police, however, you are basically not allowed to film or record sound. There are options, but some of them are extremely limited.
That's because there are multiple entities in addition to the police in other countries, while the UK does call them all "police". In Germany there is also the Ordnungsamt - which doesn't carry guns either. It's the same thing in many other European countries. But it is true that their individual tasks overlap a little bit. German police on patrol, even on foot, will carry guns. And the Ordnungsamt does not serve the exact same purpose as the none-gun-carrying police officers in the UK.
It's actually a pretty nice way having a display on front of the camera. It shows them directly how they looks like on video. And tbh. I would have wish this feature some years ago when someone filmed at a party late in the morning when me and some friends tried to sing and dance ... drunken ... Wasn't nice to see that the next day.
A hooligan is someone, who is a violent fan of a his chosen soccer team. Its a common term that might have its origins in GB, not in Germany. 🙂Those kids that bite policemen are not German kids, they are most likely of some migrant background.
Mostly I trust the "Polizei", but there are black sheep here as well. I cycle every day and added a Dashcam to record dangerous behaviour of other traffic participants (with visible stickers). One day a Police car over took me in a 30 kph section of a downhill road with just about half a meter - they should have kept 1,5 meters - and with way too much speed (I was already going 30 and they overtook me with significantly more speed). As I ride a S-Pedelec I got a horn and used it. The police cut in front of me and braked hard so that I nearly hit them. 2 officers exited the car and immediately accused me of illegally having a horn mounted to my bike. I then told them it was dangerous what they did and that my bike is required by law to have a horn. As they continued being aggressive towards me I made them aware of the Dashcam and that I will raise a complaint about their behaviour at their station. They then got even more aggressive, demanded my ID and papers of the bike. Once they also wanted to check me for Alkohol and Drugs I declined to further cooperate as they clearly went into harassment with their actions. I pressed the record button my camera stopped answering their questions. They went on confiscating the memory card wrote me a ticket for recording them without consent and left. I directly went to their station and raised a complaint against them. The ticket was dropped and a few days later the memory card was returned to me - wiped clean. Unbeknownst to them, my camera saves recordings also to the cloud automatically, and so I could press charges against them. Those policemen are no longer with the police.
Bro make a complaint at a different station about them. The card was damaged illigaly, and they where reckless driving. Nither is ok. There are btw cams that record to two cards and the cloud.
Keksemann666, that’s not how this works here in Germany. The first I had to do is raise a complaint in the station the officers belong to. If that would not have been resulted in any action, I could have done two things from there: 1. Press charges 2. Make a "Dienstaufsichtsbeschwerde”, which is an official complaint against the officers made with the administration. From there I could also do more, depending on the outcome on either. But the informal complaint directly at the station already had the ticket removed and the memory card returned to me. However, since it was returned to me wiped, I did press charges against the officers for „destruction of property“, „tempering with evidence", „Unsuitable character for police service“, „Endangerment“. Which led to the police officers being fired.
@@fifthycharaktersforaqualit7468 This all happened this year. I won a Garmin Dash Cam Live in a golf tournament (I believe that camera is about 400€). While it is a car dash cam, and not weather proof (can’t use it in the rain), I was able to attach it to my bikes front rack with the suction cup plus a safety cable. Needs an extra Abonnement with Garmin to use the live features and uploading to cloud. This Dash Cams comes with a lot of features not really suitable / designed for cycling. I wouldn’t have bought it, but since so won it no harm in misusing it 😉 That said, currently there are sadly no actual bicycle specific dash cams with LTE / Cloud storage features 😩 … at least not that I know of.
Das kann dir bei JEDEM drohen und nicht nur bei Polizisten. Beleidigung ist Beleidigung… es gibt im Gesetz keine „Beamten-Beleidigung“ als extra Paragraphen. Wenn du wen beleidigst kann derjenige dich grundsätzlich immer anzeigen
@@iriswaldenburger2315 sachlich korrekt, es gibt allerdings die Beleidigung von Amtsträgern (selber Ablauf, aber anders als bei Privatpersonen kein Antragsdelikt, sondern auch vom Dienstherren verfolgbar). Ich bezog mich im Kommentar auf gefällte Urteile, bei denen explizit Beamte das Ziel von Beleidigungen waren (z.B. Bay ObLG, Az.: 5 St RR30/00).
Although some people don't realize it, the general quality of our police is very high. So it's not uncommon for citizens to confuse their politeness with being a pushover. Especially now as the tensions keep on rising, it's helpfull to have a tool to bring back the authority without needing to raise your voice. It's a bit sad that the general public loses in quality more and more and the police has to adapt to it but still needs to find ways to stay professional. This concept will probably fall apart rather sooner than later.
I think the germans should also record always like the cops in the us. Officers here can also be corrupt and we don't know about that. People will be more nice to officers if it would be common. I think safety woud increase with recording in both ways.
The last case is horrible. The guy clearly didn't speak German (well) and they continue to talk German to him and complain he didn't comply. He is talking about "resist" and they answer they're not "racist". And in the end they put him in a cold tiled room in his underwear. (The tiled room is a "Ausnüchterungszelle" (drunk tank). It's tiled so vomit and excrement is easy to clean. The detained person does not have access to a toilet.)
The body cam and especially the words "i am turning on the body cam" is a form of legal escalation. It's a warning to end misconduct. Especially if mothers are likely to see the footage one way or the other ;-) IMO body cams should additionally automatically activate when shaken too much detecting an escalating situation.
The cops didnt come out because the drunk weirdo insulted anybody. He called them because HE felt insulted by staff apparently. And then hes just acting up when they arrive....
you are right when saying that a lot of Germans don't want to be filmed. And it explains how a body cam can help to deescalate - it is like a warning when a cop tells someone "You better calm down now, or I may activate my body cam!" Lots of buttheads find it easier to calm down than to be filmed in "butthead actions".
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German cops all have guns and often carry them. If on patrol on major traffic hubs like airports or trainstations even automatic weapons such as the MP5 are common
Correct. Also a full auto MP ist one of the worst police weapons ever.
Thats the federal Police not the state Police, like in this doku...
@@johannesstaudenrauss9904that makes little difference in that regard. The state police is also carrying weapons, in Saxony they are allowed to put a mounted gun on their armored vehicles and in Bavaria they are allowed to carry grandes.
Nither is done (to my knowledge) but they could do that.
@@petermuller9940the MP5 is a full automatic that can be switched to half automatic. Its a great gun. Especially against terrorists.
@@petermuller9940On the contrary it's been used in many military , paramilitary, police tactical units the world over the MP5 I think.
But I do think it's a bit overkill in a normal police force only in police tactical units would it be suitable IMHO.
Also I think the MP5 also has a selective fire and semi-Automatic variant I don't know which one they were using here was it a full auto like you say ?
What kind of firearm do German police ,state or local carry with them usually ?
8:59 yes. In Germany it's used thst way. Because if sth happens it's always "he said, she said" like, if police and suspect have some fight everyone of the involved can claim that they were the victim. Suspect will say the police started it, police said the suspect started it. With the camera both parties know, they are beeing filmed and most "suspects" or people that are questioned by the police realize, when they start the fight, they will definetly lose. So the camera deescalates, before sth bad happens. At least some of the time. Some people don't care if they are beeing filmed. But most people do.
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The hesitation is probably partly due to paperwork and recharging the bodycam, no joke lol.
Those body cams have a screen that shows the real-time footage that's being recorded, which is the major feature they were going for. When people are visibly aware that they are being recorded, functionally having a mirror put up against them, there is some psychology going on that makes many people rethink their current actions on a level below "Oh, I'm being recorded, better not do anything illegal now".
I'm german and the translation under the video is so so bad!! 😂
No he wasn't arrested for insulting someone, he physically attacked someone and then wanted to file a complaint because he claimed to have been insulted.
Insult is technically illegal in Germany yes, but prosecution for that doesn't usually happen because most people wouldn't call the police for that. In this case he's probably trying to simply reduce the blame on himself (in some cases insult can justify self defense).
Im not even sure if insults alone, without a 2nd charge, would warrant an arrest.
Yes its illegal, but I think Cops would just tell you to leave, write everything down and just arrest you if you dont leave or act agressive etc...
The last part about self defense is indeed interesting, would love to see a WBS Video about that topic.😁
If there is no other way to stop someone from insulting you, its legal to use reasonable force to defend yourself in Germany. But in the end its up to the courts and as long as you could just walk away instead of using "self defense", I doubt the process would end good for you...
According to Wikipedia, insulting someone could get you a fine or jail for up to a year. In "severe" cases the jailtime could jump to up to 2 years.
A court in Munich for example decided to fine someone for 100 Tagessätze (Monthly income divided by 30) for wearing a shirt saying "ACAB"
@@KingSteven26 It is illegal, but German police would not arrest you for insulting somebody. In order to prosecute this crime, the insulted person has to press charges.
@@tabletopmika4349 Well Beamtenbeleidigung can cost you up to 1000€ fine. which is unthinkable in the US.
@@MasterPMDP 1. There's no such thing as Beamtenbeleidigung in criminal law in Germany. It's just Beleidigung.
2. It can cost you more. 1000€ is the maximum in the criminal case, but in civil court where the insulted sue for damages the amount can still go up.
3. A lot of basic rules of civilization of first world countries and actual democracies are unthinkable in the US. They have signed even less human rights treaties than Russia. The US also has automatic immunity for the president, not in form of immunity but in form of "what a president in office does can't be illegal, and hence can't be prosecuted" - That's usual for dictatorships, not for democracies.
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Every police officer in every German-speaking nation carries a firearm. The only country I know of where the police are unarmed is England.
Not only England but all of UK.
And Ireland, Norway, and Malta.
Ryan, there are about 5 policemen killed in Germany in one year. In the US its about 1000. Our cops are great. Mostly friendly, helpfull, well educated and always very calm and polite. These video cams are not used to protect the suspects but mainly to protect our policemen. I am very, very happy to live in a country where we don´t have to be afraid of the police. I was shocked when I was in the US and realised how terrified people are when only being pulled over by the cops for some minor traffic issues.
Well, I'm not afraid of the average policeman on the street. I would certainly be afraid of the "SWAT" units like the SEK or the anti-riot units.
Relatively great, but in need of serious, fundamental, revolutionary improvements. Fascist rhetoric and Nazi Apologia are widespread issues in the German police and Police violence has been getting worse as antidemocratic crackdowns on anti-Genocide Palestine Supporters has been a very large issue recently (to be fair, German society and politics has a general problem with widespread support for the antisemitic Zionist ideology). 1312
Deutsch?
To their defense: in Germany you also don't have to expect the amount of firearms (legal and illegal) on the average person. You won't have that on _any_ civilians, basically. So, the danger of being shot at in a traffic stop is near zero if you are not in a "lost" town like Berlin or FFM.
You should be afraid of the police if you are under 40 and drive a car or motorcycle. Police could stop your drive at any point and take you to a doctor for a blood sample. This can take the whole night and doesn’t require provable evidence.
They can also „doubt“ the legal status of your vehicle and confiscate it even if you have every document needed.
14:40 "Beamtenbeleidigung" (insultinging an officer on duty) is a term media love to throw around. This is just a regular insult. The law making insulting an officer a different crime was dropped a long time ago.
In Germany the police has the right to perform a "Allgemeine Personenkontrolle" (general person check) that does not need any reason (in a reasonable fashion of course) that's what the police officer told those two guys. He did not press any charges, but sent the guys away from the "party location" until the next morning. He told them they have had enough booze without telling them they had enough booze.
Insulting people is not covered by freedom of speech, or rather freedom of opinion what we call it in Germany and you can be sued and charged according to your income
Yeah, many people don't realize that. The first article of the german constitution says "Human dignity is inviolable" (or rather "The Dignity of a human..."). While this is primarily a guideline for the action of the state (through executive, legislative or jurisdictial action), it is also the basis of the personal rights, which - among a lot of other things - demand that a person's honour is to be upheld. So insulting someone PERSONALLY (that's really important, you can very much insult a group that is not sufficiently surveyable and open, as long as you don't incite hatred or violence) is forbidden, because your freedom of speech doesn't trump a person's dignity. Therefore we have a freedom of opinion, not of speech. You have to express your opinions without using insults or defamations. And personally as a german, I very much appreciate that.
Btw, DW stands for 'Deutsche Welle' (literally 'German Wave') which is our international broadcasting service initially meant for Germans abroad. Nowadays it's pretty much an investigative and information service.
8:57 Fun fact: That's the reason there are mirrors in elevators.
In germany, the term "Hooligan" (or "Ultra") describes a violent football (soccer) fan. These are often organized in so-called fan clubs.
+1 for beeing an authentic channel . as a german i can follow ur conflusions very well .
"Hooligan" is a completely football-related term. These are the fans who show their love for the team by hitting each other in the face. Whoever wins improves the reputation of the fan scene. In most cases, this happens somewhere where there are no bystanders present. I don't want to judge whether the guy in the video is actually a hooligan or just a trashy guy.
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Grammar!
It is Die Bodycam. However in a sentence like this the article changes.
It thus is Mit der Bodycam, although it is die Bodycam.
The first guy wore a Lonsdale jacket. This british brand is loved by the right wingers/nazis as the middle letters show NSDA, which alludes to „NSDAP“ equal nazi party. This party name is else forbidden to be shown off. So the hint of him being a well known nazi-fan is absolutely not far fetched.
Exactly what I thought.
funnily enough: The company itself is very much distancing itself from the right for many years now and the brand is still worn by punks and leftwing skinheads (yes, those exist). So, that alone is a bit of a stretch. Still possible that he is a well known nazi fan though, the scene is rather known to police.
The sentence "Abdi, ruf mal deine Mutter an" ("Abdi, call your Mom"), as shouted by the douchebag being detained, has become quite a meme since then 😅
About the privacy rights vs. camera: At 1:54 you can see the cop wearing something yellow with the text VIDEO AUFZEICHNUNG (video recording). As soon as you make people aware that there's a camera (like in stores or at entrances) it is legally fine. That's why they additionally point it out verbally.
4:05 "Hooligan" or "Ultra" usually means a more or less radical soccer fan in Germany, and the fans are even categorized(by police) in A/B/C for peaceful, could maybe use violence, or is violent.
So its not just a informal word here, but also kinda a category, even though I bet the "Fussballfans" on here will be able to explain it better than I did...
An Ultra is not a Hooligan. I know media uses this term as a synonyme but that doesn't make it correct.
@Moni-y1q Yes ultras are not holligans but a lot of holligans are ultras too, so often people just say they are the same which isnt true
@Moni-y1q I never said that, nor did I want to suggest that, I guess Ultras would probably be "Kategorie B" for the Cops?
I dont like soccer or group sports in general and never cared about watching others do sports at all...
@@KingSteven26 The categories doesn't have to do anything with being part of a group. It's about behavior and crimes an individual did. When you never had anything to do with violence or other crimes you can be the Capo of an Ultra group and are literally "Kategorie A". Also you can be "Kategorie C" without having anything to do with any groups. It's about the individuum not groups.
@Moni-y1q maybe in theory, but police behavior at football matches tells otherwise.
Couples used to have several children because half of them died within a few years. But nobody knew which would die so every child was being cared for. Nowadays no couple needs even one child to care for them at old age.
Here in Germany there is a statute that prohibits the taping of the non-public spoken word. Nearby there is a statute that prohibits filming AND publishing the pictures of a person without consent. Thats why the hooligan is blured in vision and his speech is only availabe of special circumstances of public news.
So there are very restricted cases to film and publishing Police encounters.
But that also open a hole in the law to do it lawfuly. If you ask/order zur police to turn on their bodycam and they do it, you are allowed to film and publish them either.
There are some other circumstances to film the police but not publish it for proof in court.
Filming? -> not for publishing
Audio? -> factical public (if the police couldt[!] imagine that another person couldt hear them)
fun fact about insulting police officers. It's more likely a high level punishment than punching the officer in a defensive act. Because punching is resisting police and the insult is not resisting police.
In Germany resisting police is a special case to protect the citizen in what he can face as punishment as when facing police it means "facing the whole strength of the state". So the punishment is usually lower than when hurting another citizen or can even be no punishment when you are able to make clear in front of a court that you thought the police wasn't allowed to act or you tried to defend yourself.
I know in US the resisting police thing is seen in a different way. Crazy US cases I saw are when going limp when arrested is resisting and when going stiff is resisting too. Even trying to protect oneself from getting hit is sometimes seen as resisting police.
5:30 The hooligan had a jacket from Lo-nsda-le, that is common for people they believe in the NSDAP. You have to expect to be condemned/insulted or called a bad person from WW2
This. The company tries to change that image, but I think they won't get rid of it
Yes. A football fan with Lonsdale clothing and a history of violent behaviour is unfortunately a good indicator for his political alignment in germany.
In Germany most bodycams tend to be shut down, or material that deletes itself after 24h not secured in time... at least whenever fit convenient.
For insulting a cop in Poland you get fined or go to prison (1 year max). That goes for every public servant.
I don't think that our police will release bodycam footage except after it had been used in a trial. Otherwise the protection of privacy will forbid it.
Happy new year!
Having less kids actually contributes to the dynamic, Ryan. When there's more kida, then they most learn more social skills between siblings who are all growing and all started out as dysregulated mess, whereas just living with parents can mean they constantly manage their feelings because they can but you, the only child, may not learn to do it well yourself and you're used to escaping situations. You can't escape family intern struggles the same way. There's a higher incentive to actually learn how to sort problems out.
On the down side, when the family as a whole is dysfunctional, then not having siblings can mean all negativity concentrates on the single child 😥
In short: it's complicated. All has wanted and unwanted sides to it
When a person participates in a public event (e.g., demonstrations, street festivals, concerts), it can generally be assumed that photos or videos may be taken there. In such cases, filming individuals is permitted if they are part of a larger crowd and not specifically highlighted or singled out. (§ 23 of the German Art Copyright Act, KunstUrhG).
There are exceptions tho. Especially in case of a concert:
Yes, it's public in terms of everyone can buy a ticket. It's not public enough that you have the right to take pictures according to the paragraph you picked out here tho.
A lot of organizers don't allow photo or video recordings on their premises. Sometimes bc they don't want it but sometimes the band doesn't want it.
If you go to any TOOL concert, you will always find that recordings of any kind aren't allowed. The organizers have extra staff that checks and is allowed to kick you out if they find you recording.
It is called "Hausrecht".
And even street festivals can have "Hausrecht" and restrictions if they are inclosed with a fence or another barrier of any kind and have permission from the city administration to exclusively use the area.
Every booth at a Christmas market has "Hausrecht". Some of the Glühwein-booths have a heated side room you can enter for an extra fee. The owner of the booth is totally in the right to forbid ppl to take pictures inside.
So, it not as easy as layman as yourself think.
Law is NOT easy.
There is a reason ppl have to study it a looooooooooong time and have to take 2 state examinations before they are allowed to work as a lawyer.
It's simply not as easy as picking out some paragraph and just reciting it from the book. 😂
14:40 Beamtenbeleidigung is actually a Myth.
It comes from the fundamental law of "The dignity of the human is inviolable." which means the insult needs to be directed at only 1 officer, and the officer needs to be insulted enough to claim to have been accosted at his dignity. Only if all these conditions align can the cop charge these people. Flipping the bird can be seen as a general insult directed at all cops, and therefore is disrespect the cops has to endure.
16:30 These cops actually are on a power trip, because the general insults are free speech in America, or they're on a fishing expedition, because unlike in Germany, American cops are incentivized to make arrests, and are masters at turning a consensual encounter into an arrest, because the arrest alone is what they get paid for, not that the person they arrested actually goes to prison for whatever charges they came up with. (even when the law doesn't exist)
It is still funny.
German police: We use bodycams to secure ourselfs and have to announce it clearly that we record you.
American police: We use bodycams to protect the citizens from our trigger happy officers and these are often disabled because we don´t want our professional immunity to be challenged.
entirely different mindset in policing.
@@RSProduxx its also an entirely mindset of respect.. i saw a lot of videos of U.S. police get insulted and disrespecting and claiming they pay them so they should do what teh citizens told them to do.. that statemet alone is stupid enough. on top every person could be armed becouse the U.S. has such loose weaponlaws.. so there is much more tension between police and citizens..if you at danger to shot everytime you go somewhere you are in permanent stress.. on top the "free speech" and the mindset of police is always the enemy is a big issue in the US and a growing issue here in germany.. (but without guns.. but more and more knives)
@@lr-forge2337 That's what we're starting to get here as well. People behaving like absolut shitheads and then being mad when police don't kiss their ass.
What do you expect in a third world dictatorship shit hole country that trains their cops for 18 weeks instead of educating them for at least 3 years like in Germany 🤷
Nah, when it comes to police brutality, bodycams conveniently stop working in germany too.
The captions are auto generated, it's often nonsense. It understood "Dämon" (demon) at 17:50, but what he said was actially "in dem Moment" (in that moment). It misheard the "dem Mom..." part.
The bodycam of a judicial officer is a usable tool in court and is intended to protect the officer from giving false testimony in Germany. The camera may only be turned on with prior notice in Germany because then the personal right to film and image is overridden by data protection for the person in the situation.
If policemen can start and stop the bodycam like they want, it is not to be trusted. It should testify all people in the "discussion" or fight.
to add to your birthrate analysis:
the "pill" came out in the 60's, resulting in a steep decline in birth rates, because for the first time women could control if they want to a have a child or not.
and in germany in went up longer, because people wanted to have kids after the war and also the "Wirtschaftswunder" (economic miracle) was in full effect and people lived in prosperous conditions.
16:42 they didn't really arrest the guys for flipping them off or anything, it's illegal, but nothing that would go further in court or smth. They just expelled them from the public area for that day.
My experience here in Germany is, that if you do not have a gun, you discuss the incident calm and factual with the police. They treat you with the same respect you show to them. Why would they be intimidating? I am sure this changes quickly if you are a threat to them or to anybody else. But this is why they are there. After all, they have to restore order.
When there is a case against a cop, most of the time the camera mysteriously "malfunctioned" and there is no evidence 🤷♂
One of the reasons to use a body cam is that nowadays any behavior of police officers is filmed by spectators and published on the media. It seems to me, that it's in the interest of the officers to also have a version which shows the event from start to end.
Part of German efficiency is that we take our time to evaluate new devices.
US Bodycam footage:
People get shot. Dogs get shot. People and dogs get shot. People get tased. People get pepper sprayed. People just get a good old fashioned beating from multible officers.
German Bodycam footage:
Some drunk soccer fan argues with an officer over a case of insult.
8:44 The "behaving better because of the filming" thing doesn't work so well in the US. People are used to being filmed everywhere and are crazy enough to not care about freaking out on camera.
The Germans prefer to freak out unrecorded and of course here in the comments, in the supposed anonymity of the internet, which only partially exists.
The is a law in germany called "Violation of the confidentiality of the spoken word" or "Strafgesetzbuch (StGB) § 201 Verletzung der Vertraulichkeit des Wortes"
That is the one that prohibits to record most police interactions because they will sue you. I don't know why police officers are allowed to do that but "One crow doesn't peck out another crow's eye" or "honor among thieves" or some bullshit.
showing middle finger or other insults (no matter of police or civilian) is a felony §185 Stgb
DW usually also publishes on English. So always search for a keyword of the title on TH-cam with "DW" as there might be a translation available :)
I like dw but alot say it is woke. Typical bullcrap imo.
@@viperpit-k5j well, I'm not sure, we can agree on a definition of the term woke... so I don't even try.
But I like independent reviews of journalism. mediabiasfactcheck has a review of DW and rates it slightly left-center, which doesn't align with the typical populist definition of "woke", which would be extreme-left.
@@RubenKelevra can you even comprehend what I meant? I don't think so, maybe you're German though and English is not your first language though which is my only thinking which makes sense. To clarify I am stating somebody else said this and it is bullcrap.
@viperpit-k5j there's no language barrier here, I understood that someone else was saying that, and that you think it's bullcrap.
But saying it's "bullcrap" is no argument, so I gave you an argument. :)
In Germany, flipping off a police officer can cost you a *lot* of money, because it's illegal.
In the US, flipping off a police officer might not be illegal, but it could get you tazed or killed.
Sadly the disrepect against all public servants (and amongst humans in general) has increased drastically: police officers, firefighters, EMT, teachers, etc., and it will probably increase further. I am a teacher in Germany, not even a veteran one, and the things I have to deal with today compared to 17 years ago are staggering. Remembering my own school days in the 80's, I I can say with certainty, we would have never dared act up or speak like that.
It makes me angry to see the world and society now... So many stupid, violent and disrespectful people. Social media also destroys Humanity.
It is not just Germany... we have exactly the same trend. 😢 These images of Mainz are still pretty chill compared to for example Brussels. Since you are a teacher, has the average level of the students dropped? It has overhere in Flanders. We used to be top in Mathemathics and science, on par with the strong asian countries. But now the level has dropped significantly. Sadly enough because a large portion of young kids do not speak dutch at home and thus lack an in depth understanding, and often come from a religious culture that in fact dismisses our values, teachings and scientific methods. It is hard to accept, but this is the reality we have to deal with.
@@Wim1979 Yes, reading comprehension, mathematic skills, etc. have all declined drastically. With each new turnover of students after 4 years of primary school, you notice less and less basic skills. But I can't attribute that to immigration issues. I work in a school district with basically less than 5% immigrants. It is the general decline which is way worse. Kids aren't going outside anymore, lacking fine motor skills. Kids raised by television and other media, whose brains are hardwired for 30 sec instant gratification and concentration. Kids that never learned to play certain games to boost their memory and their frustration levels. Kids that never learned social skills, because they socialised mostly with a TV, Ipad or mobile phone instead of playing with others. Kids that can't hold a pencil, use a pair of scissors, tie their shoes or even put on a jacket without getting stuck.
How should we teach children that lack the basic skills to even attend school?
Ich bin auch Lehrerin (Grundschule), auf dem Land an einer Minischule (ca. 40 Kinder). Auch bei uns sind nicht viele Kinder mit Immigrationshintergrund. Trotzdem kann ich das bestätigen, was du geschrieben hast! Keine Basisfähigkeiten mehr + keinerlei Anstrengungsbereitschaft und die Merkfähigkeit eines Kolibris. Wir haben inzwischen jedes Jahr Kinder in der 1. Klasse sitzen, die nicht Fahrrad fahren/schwimmen können… auf dem Land! Vor ein paar Wochen hat meine Kollegin bei unseren Dritt-/ Vierklässlern in Mathe Aufgaben mit Monaten machen wollen… deprimierend viele wussten nicht mal mehr, dass das Jahr 12 Monate hat… haben es ja nur wochenlang behandelt, mit Kalendern gearbeitet und es immer wieder (nebenbei) wiederholt 🤦♀️… es ist sehr deprimierend 😑. Und dann die Unverschämtheiten von Kindern wie auch Eltern unserem Berufsstand gegenüber 🙄…!
Living in the city centre and seeing parents with their children on the daily, I feel like it has a lot to do with people enforcing 0 discipline on their children. And by that I don't mean hitting your children or shouting at them, which would be wrong, but literally letting them do whatever they want without any consequences whatsoever.
I could be wrong but I feel like parenting, as an overcorrection from the strict parenting of earlier generations, has become way too soft. You can barely call it parenting anymore.
Again, I don't advocate for physical or emotional violence here, I'm just saying it feels like there are no boundaries at all for children these days.
It is actually practical to record the entire work day. Dash cams do that all the time. They save every second, and if the storage is full, it starts by overwriting the oldest recording, unless the "save video" button was pressed, in which case that five minute chunk is protected and can only be deleted manually.
I can recommend the documentary "Nachtstreife" from ARD. It's a really interesting documentary about the German police and their work at night AND it's not a million years old. The police cars haven't been green since 2004 or so 😅
Mainz has a Soccer Team in the Bundesliga and they have Hooligans
"He said something about a demon" ... lol It was "in dem Moment" - "at that moment"
They were using very VERY old video material at the beginning where our police still had beige and green uniforms (and green cars).
Sadly the translation on you tube is faulty. Some things got translated wrong I saw as you watched the video...
As a citizen, you may call for a police if you were insulted on the street and can do a charge of defamation against another. But the dude was not respectful to the officer, didn't use formal, but informal language and stepped into the officer's comfort zone. A lot what the dude said wasn't even comprehensible in german. We have formal "they" and informal "you" in german language and it is considered extremely rude to not use german "they" as the first step to escalate the situation. The officer called the dude out to use informal language and keep the distance. The translation was bad - so it might help to understand the situation.
as german i cant understand why these bodycams are not standard. a typically german complicated way...but already its hard to give the police digital Radio Sets...
The problem is that the officers self decide if they want to turn the cam on. As most of you know, there is less police violence in Germany, but of course it exists and they of course never turn on the body cam if they are doing something like police violence.
Btw. I love how YT uses profanity filters on the automated subtitle translation ... A classy american thing I guess.
free speech and stuff 😁
Land of the "free"...
not anymore. Watch Welt, RTL or anything of that level. In their news they are toned down like US news stations even they don't have to.
it is freedom of speech. **laughingfit**
8:55 Yeah the power dynamic is different over here. Here the bodycam is ther to protect the officers because they get abused a lot. In america the police is more likely to be abusive and get away with it
Whenever I get checked and the cop has a cam I actually ask them to turn it on, so that there is a clear record of events. I also try to get their name and/or "badge number" (not all police have that in Germoney and it may be called something else) and if possible I actually ask them if I can record as well.
I am a really nice guy, and try to get them to not feel threatened, especially because I sometimes carry LEGAL weapons, but the weapons law is extremely complex so it can often take some explaining.
First thing i thought at the start: "Wow thats an oold video"
German police changed colors from this green and "yellowish" white to blue, white and black. The cars look different too.
My dad is a state policeman working for ~25 years and i now own 2 old jackets (tho waay too big) with the old patches. Obviously i cant wear it outside but its cool to own.
Green BMW are still REALLY common in Bavaria. Never seen a blue one in Munich...
@@daggel011 i haven't seen them in ages tbh. Only once still green are sometimes Zoll. Tho sometimes at bigger state events they put the old once at display
@@Avi-rn6ei Bavaria never joined the rest of Germany in changing to the blue uniforms and cars, they are still using the green and beige color pattern. In Germany for a long time, blue was reserved for the THW, The decision to change that, was made because of the fact, that internationally blue is the most recognized color for Police, red for the Fire Department and white for health services. But Bavaria is naturally to conservative to change^^, now their Police is even less recognizable :), soon they will be able to wear their uniforms for undercover ops^^.
@@KettenSyndicate of course bavaria already changed, just much later then the rest of germany, and they oriented themself, of cours, on the blue austrian police uniforms, there are still green BMWs in munich, because they are still new and work very good, like in Northrhine-Westfalia almost all are blue, but there are stil some green Busses, like VW Busse, because they still work good.
@@philipschulze2.070 Oh my bad, I did not know this, I work in a small Bavarian town and the police is still wearing green, so I thought this was the norm.
Many people (even here in Germany) don't really understand the concept of "Freedom of Opinion". We don't have an absolute Freedom of Speech here, we have many rights (collectively known as Communicative Fundamental Rights): Freedom of Press, Freedom of Information, Freedom of Opinion, etc. Those have to be balanced with the Basic Human Right to Dignity (First Article of the german constitution: Human dignity is inviolable). This Right is anchored for one in the historical german idea of someone's honour (historically being a mixture of reputation and dignity) being really important. The other big reason for this right being so important is our Nazi past, where human dignity was violated in many, many ways. So: Your right to freedom of expression/speech ends, where another one's right to personal dignity starts. You have to express your opinions without personally insulting or defamations. Really important: That only applies to personal insults. You can insult a nondescriptive, large group of people indirectly, as long as you don't cross the line to hatespeech/inciting of violence. You could for example use the old "ACAB"-slogan in a generall way, but adressing a distinct group of policemen as assholes would not fly.
6:23 If you want to insult someone in Germany, you have to do it with an intelligent choice of words, which is not legally an insult.
The term hooligan refers particulary to violent soccer fans as in this case. And yes, in germany is that a common word for this group of people.
By the way his jacket of the brand Londsdale maybe is a hint to neo- nazi connections.
It's not "DER Bodycam" In the Nominativ/1st case it's "DIE Bodycam". Only the 2nd and 3rd case it's "DER" Then for the 4th it's "Die" again 😂
03:42 no guns? > only UK!
The switch from the yellow green uniform and green cars to blue was ages ago, with the exception of Bavaria. The last one i saw off those was 17 to 20 years ago.
Yes! Insulting someone is a crime in most European countries! A small one, rarely punished, but can be used additionally to other misbehavior. Insulting any official on duty, will surely result in a fine.
Discrimination and discriminatory insults in public will be fined as well and if severe can be reason for arrest and prosecution. D. Trump would be arrested in every EU country, if he speaks his mind out publicly, and he will be, unless while president and under diplomatic protection.
Hallo! In Germany it is very unlikely that firearms will be used, but in America it's really crazy what's going on and what you hear about the police -
Yes, that attack in Mannheim happened in May '23. The fountain on Market Square is still a place of unofficial mourning and reflection, and the municipality has announced that it will put up a permanent memorial.
Sorry, I replied to the wrong comment. It was supposed to go under the comment about the attack happening in Mannheim.
Berlin and Bavaria have had green police cars for a pretty long period of time, I would say until 2024. Because I have been to Bavaria this year (2024) and have seen the blue police cars for the very first time. Last year all their cars have been green.
Well, I live in Stuttgart and hardly anytime see a police officer without a gun.
2:02 for us: one year ago one policeman got stabbed and all remember because it's so rare.
In the us: everyday multible policemen get shot, stabbed or killed in all other ways just too crazy there
The whining of the 18 year old about his mom shows what people those are. Either be bold or be whiny but not both.
And even better be friendly.
You should watch die Anstalt episode about german police (march 14th, 2023). The one that starts of with the mud wizard of Lüzerath :D. Talks about all the times those cameras aren't running
What might be odd to americans is that the right of self defence includes defending your honor in germany. If someone is attacking your honor you can defend it with reasonable means, that includes physical violence if words arent enough. But mind you its only self defence when its neccessary to stop an attack on your honor. If the attack is over and you are just angry you cant just beat em up to let off some steam. If the attack is over your right to defend yourself ends with it.
That film is very old, not 5 years ago! Look at the cars! Seems to be a mix from different decades... With those translations I would be confused too! 🤨🤔🙄 Translating deescalation to escalation was a first for me!
7:35 The automatic translation was so bad. It is not that the hooligan insulted the policemen, in fact the fervent soccer fan wanted to report insults hurled at him by a third party. The police officers were having none of it, because, as the voiceover says, the guy was already trying to stir trouble mere hours prior. The insults in question were "Missgeburt" (malformed birth) and"Nazi", both are not exactly _fun_ insults.
Once the guy realizes that the officer is not on his side, he starts becomeing agitated and slipping into informal pronouns. After seeing something brewing out of that lapse in respectful langauge the police officer turns on the cam. Also the guy was reminded to watch his tone.
Guy was wearing a Lonsdale jacket - even if the company tried to get away from the right-wing image, that's "nazi?" is the one thing I'd ask myself upon seeing him.
11:00 sadly this also happens in Germany quite frequently. If the Police did something wrong sometimes the camera footage just magically disappeared. Overall still very happy with out Police in general.
2:35 no, in cases against the police the cams are often out of order :) It is a one party video evidence, that is a problem
@Ryan Wass A Hooligan is a violent soccer fan and they're mostly known by the police because they get filmed and identified during soccer games in stadiums.
Hell, it's unusual to translate German. :)
"Hooligan" as a term is specifically used for violent "Fußball Fans" which is a very specific scene that came from England decades ago.
It´s a thing all around Europe.
15:11 But the report is really not particularly accurate. There is no such thing as insulting officials (Beamtenbeleidung). This is a common term, but insulting someone is generally illegal. Officials or not. However, there are special rules. For example, you cannot address a police officer informally.This also falls under insult because one does not take the office seriously (roughly explained). But there are now rulings such as A.C.A.B. is not a criminal offense because it does not address a specific person. That somehow falls under freedom of expression. Complicated.
Isn`t Hooligan pretty much everywhere universally a radical aggressiv football fan?
Btw. Streife, is not streif it is Streif E/Ä. And like 1 month ago, a police officer came into our school, and teached us about "rights about our own pictures/videos" and he had a Stick (to punch), a Gun anda Tazer. He was nice, and i talked as i brouth him to the other class room, that i want to be in the "FreiwilligeFeuerwehr" and in german, it sounds so gooooood to say that😂😂😂❤❤❤
.. and it translates to "patrol".
@@HerzschreiberStreifenwagen is a patrol car ?
@@gregorygant4242 you've got it, yes.
Simple past von „to teach“ ist „taught“, nicht „teached“.
Und für „to bring“ wäre es „brought“, nicht „brouth“.
Die bösen irregular verbs. Da sind wir ja alle mal durch. ;-)
Wir können ja nicht immer nur Ryan berichtigen, sondern uns auch gegenseitig.
Aber inhaltlich spannender Kommentar. Ich wünsche dir einen Guten Rutsch!
The prerequisite for the use of body cameras is that their use is NECESSARY to protect against threats to the life, limb, property or freedom of the police officer or others, or that the use of the body cameras is of SIGNIFICANT importance in the prosecution of criminal offenses or administrative offenses.
This means that body cameras must not be switched on routinely. In cases of doubt, the person is often asked whether they agree to being filmed.
Many Germans are much more sensitive to being filmed than the average American, which is why it makes sense to carefully consider whether the use of the body camera is NECESSARY.
This and you don't want to use tools randomly and numb ppl to their use. You also don't want to produce work by having tons of footage to sift through!
I would always insist on turning on the bodycam so that the police also act respectfully
They can delete parts of the recordings, or usually all of it, and claim that it was not recorded. If they are going to harass you, it is silly to expect them to record themselves. It's like saying that robbers should go and let themselves arrest to the police station after a robbery to increase our safety. This isn't gonna work.
Well, I guess you could demand that they record everything and the lack of recording would make them accountable - as like if you refuse to make a drug test while driving, you are charged as if you were intoxicated. But it still has issues at court - you can "charge them for not recording", but it is harder to prove they did whatever they choose to do to you.
After thinking about it more, if not having a recording would lead to suspension/being fired, it could work, even though you fail to prove their misconduct. It could be a good deterrent from disrespectful encounters.
There is a huge imbalance. The police are allowed to record using body cameras. As a person who has dealings with the police, however, you are basically not allowed to film or record sound. There are options, but some of them are extremely limited.
Pure symtom handling, they need to secure themselves because the system they protect gets more hostile during crisisies..
Im not aware of any european country outside of the UK where police aren't armed at all times.
That's because there are multiple entities in addition to the police in other countries, while the UK does call them all "police". In Germany there is also the Ordnungsamt - which doesn't carry guns either. It's the same thing in many other European countries. But it is true that their individual tasks overlap a little bit. German police on patrol, even on foot, will carry guns. And the Ordnungsamt does not serve the exact same purpose as the none-gun-carrying police officers in the UK.
It's actually a pretty nice way having a display on front of the camera. It shows them directly how they looks like on video.
And tbh. I would have wish this feature some years ago when someone filmed at a party late in the morning when me and some friends tried to sing and dance ... drunken ... Wasn't nice to see that the next day.
A hooligan is someone, who is a violent fan of a his chosen soccer team. Its a common term that might have its origins in GB, not in Germany. 🙂Those kids that bite policemen are not German kids, they are most likely of some migrant background.
Mostly I trust the "Polizei", but there are black sheep here as well. I cycle every day and added a Dashcam to record dangerous behaviour of other traffic participants (with visible stickers). One day a Police car over took me in a 30 kph section of a downhill road with just about half a meter - they should have kept 1,5 meters - and with way too much speed (I was already going 30 and they overtook me with significantly more speed).
As I ride a S-Pedelec I got a horn and used it. The police cut in front of me and braked hard so that I nearly hit them. 2 officers exited the car and immediately accused me of illegally having a horn mounted to my bike. I then told them it was dangerous what they did and that my bike is required by law to have a horn. As they continued being aggressive towards me I made them aware of the Dashcam and that I will raise a complaint about their behaviour at their station. They then got even more aggressive, demanded my ID and papers of the bike. Once they also wanted to check me for Alkohol and Drugs I declined to further cooperate as they clearly went into harassment with their actions. I pressed the record button my camera stopped answering their questions. They went on confiscating the memory card wrote me a ticket for recording them without consent and left.
I directly went to their station and raised a complaint against them. The ticket was dropped and a few days later the memory card was returned to me - wiped clean.
Unbeknownst to them, my camera saves recordings also to the cloud automatically, and so I could press charges against them. Those policemen are no longer with the police.
I would like to know what camera you used that saves them directly to the cloud that sounds very useful
Bro make a complaint at a different station about them. The card was damaged illigaly, and they where reckless driving. Nither is ok.
There are btw cams that record to two cards and the cloud.
Keksemann666, that’s not how this works here in Germany.
The first I had to do is raise a complaint in the station the officers belong to. If that would not have been resulted in any action, I could have done two things from there: 1. Press charges 2. Make a "Dienstaufsichtsbeschwerde”, which is an official complaint against the officers made with the administration.
From there I could also do more, depending on the outcome on either. But the informal complaint directly at the station already had the ticket removed and the memory card returned to me. However, since it was returned to me wiped, I did press charges against the officers for „destruction of property“, „tempering with evidence", „Unsuitable character for police service“, „Endangerment“. Which led to the police officers being fired.
@@fifthycharaktersforaqualit7468 This all happened this year. I won a Garmin Dash Cam Live in a golf tournament (I believe that camera is about 400€). While it is a car dash cam, and not weather proof (can’t use it in the rain), I was able to attach it to my bikes front rack with the suction cup plus a safety cable. Needs an extra Abonnement with Garmin to use the live features and uploading to cloud. This Dash Cams comes with a lot of features not really suitable / designed for cycling. I wouldn’t have bought it, but since so won it no harm in misusing it 😉
That said, currently there are sadly no actual bicycle specific dash cams with LTE / Cloud storage features 😩 … at least not that I know of.
We are not even allowed to use a damn dashcam in Austria 😂🙄
The raised middle finger to a police officer is no joke here in Germany. That can cost you up to €4000...
Das kann dir bei JEDEM drohen und nicht nur bei Polizisten. Beleidigung ist Beleidigung… es gibt im Gesetz keine „Beamten-Beleidigung“ als extra Paragraphen. Wenn du wen beleidigst kann derjenige dich grundsätzlich immer anzeigen
@@iriswaldenburger2315 sachlich korrekt, es gibt allerdings die Beleidigung von Amtsträgern (selber Ablauf, aber anders als bei Privatpersonen kein Antragsdelikt, sondern auch vom Dienstherren verfolgbar). Ich bezog mich im Kommentar auf gefällte Urteile, bei denen explizit Beamte das Ziel von Beleidigungen waren (z.B. Bay ObLG, Az.: 5 St RR30/00).
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those were the worst auto translations i've ever read. nice video as always from you.
In Germany we call them Hampelmänner
Ye, "Hooligans" is used for aggressive football fans pretty commonly.
Das sind keine Fans, die wollen sich prügeln.
Although some people don't realize it, the general quality of our police is very high.
So it's not uncommon for citizens to confuse their politeness with being a pushover. Especially now as the tensions keep on rising, it's helpfull to have a tool to bring back the authority without needing to raise your voice.
It's a bit sad that the general public loses in quality more and more and the police has to adapt to it but still needs to find ways to stay professional. This concept will probably fall apart rather sooner than later.
I think the germans should also record always like the cops in the us. Officers here can also be corrupt and we don't know about that. People will be more nice to officers if it would be common. I think safety woud increase with recording in both ways.
The last case is horrible. The guy clearly didn't speak German (well) and they continue to talk German to him and complain he didn't comply. He is talking about "resist" and they answer they're not "racist". And in the end they put him in a cold tiled room in his underwear. (The tiled room is a "Ausnüchterungszelle" (drunk tank). It's tiled so vomit and excrement is easy to clean. The detained person does not have access to a toilet.)
A 5 year old video hardly shows how something like this is treated now.
Dash cams are actually not allowed in Germany 😂
The body cam and especially the words "i am turning on the body cam" is a form of legal escalation. It's a warning to end misconduct. Especially if mothers are likely to see the footage one way or the other ;-)
IMO body cams should additionally automatically activate when shaken too much detecting an escalating situation.
The cops didnt come out because the drunk weirdo insulted anybody. He called them because HE felt insulted by staff apparently. And then hes just acting up when they arrive....
you are right when saying that a lot of Germans don't want to be filmed. And it explains how a body cam can help to deescalate - it is like a warning when a cop tells someone "You better calm down now, or I may activate my body cam!" Lots of buttheads find it easier to calm down than to be filmed in "butthead actions".
This has to be one of the oldest videos about the german police😂