Incline Hammer Strength Review - good or bad? With Hypertrophy Coach Joe Bennett
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Don't be so self-deprecating, Mr. Kalecinski!
Your face isn't ugly at all: it was just rendered at the lowest resolution for the smoothest performance! 🤪
Mine, for example, had a codec issue - so much so my avatar is a fcking drawing. 🤦♂
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You deserve millions of subscribers with this kind of content.
Working on it! Thanks for following, commenting, etc 🙏
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hammer strength row next please
Which one?
@@boodehoop891 the plate loaded iso lateral
Yes, please the low row one
This is a great idea for a series 🙌🏼
Loving machine reviews, no one else really does this! Looking forward to more!!
Thanks, coach, for using one of my names; "Jerry Spinefeld" 😂
Didn't think you'd go for one of the goofy ones, but, here we are!
LOVE these full breakdown nerdy videos...
(especially these and the recent genetics one) absolutely top-tier.
Been following you since the MI40 days...
Keep it coming, dude!
The most creative and useful video serie ever about bodybuilding,every video should have millions of views
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Definitely need more vids like this. Very much appreciated. Great work, Joe
now at 40 I wish I had had access to your content when I was 16 and I had no clue how to train Joe. It would have been a complete game changer, at least now I can learn from your brain and apply with myself and clients. Thank you for leading the industry.
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Accessibility on these is great for a wheelchair user, too.
The arms look like they’re growing coach! The comeback is seriously on!
Ehh 🤷♂️😂 I might go about 5 more lbs. but this is about it. I like to golf and run around with my kids. So likely not going about 210
This is one of the best videos I’ve watched in a long, long time. Thank you
I'll be honest, Ive gotten lost in some of your vids talking about insertion, moment arm ect but explaining using a machine is brilliant...cant wait to see all the other vids...Joe, your gonna help alot of people understand training .....BTW..I have that shirt..LOL...Best, Steve USA
i been looking for machine reviews. u earned my sub 💪💪
can u do the cybex incline plz
Thank you so much. Greetings from the Netherlands🙏🏼
This is the machine I have in my gym. No matter how many adjustments I make, it always seems to hit my front delts more than my upper chest. Hoping your tips help. Thx for the video man.
Put the seat lower
ive been waiting for someone to a video on this for months, this is why we love joe❤️
Great stuff man. I use this but have definitely noticed what you're saying about the moment arm. Appreciate the insight
Thank you for the review. The Incline Hammer is one of the most overrated machines ever (and indeed, Hammer Strength equipment is generally overrated). The Incline Hammer in particular is particularly stressful on the shoulder joint. Mike Van Wyck recently underscored the "horribleness" of the Incline Hammer.
Can’t stand how many gyms insist on being primarily stocked with hammer strength. So many better companies making machines out there.
@@punkandlifting They stock them because they "look hardcore"
Quality content. Thanks sir!
Your content is golden, coach!
This series is an excellent idea!
Thank you!
Please more videos like this. Specifically with hammer strength & other common brands.
The Profile/ROM part is pure gold, had the 'aha!' moment
Instant sub, great content!
Thank you for these analyses
Yes finally 😍 need reviews about gym equipments.
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Keep going
Amazing stuff Joe
The hammer strength "iso lateral bench press" is built with a much better resistance profile than the HS incline you're showing here. The plates are loaded onto a beam which is horizontal at the bottom resting position, but then moves vertically instead of forward as the weight is pressed forward. This gives a much more even resistance, rather than an increasing resistance as the weight is pushed forward/up
Yea, hammer strength occasionally has an ok piece by accident. No consistent principles used to design anything though.
@@HypertrophyCoach The irony is that the "iso lateral bench press" is probably their best chest machine, but also the least popular. This is because the design doesn't allow for nearly as much weight to be used, when compared to the incline or decline pieces
Thanks for the video!
This is fantastic content! I really appreciate this kind of video. If possible, a deep dive into flat barbell bench and incline dumbbell with different grip widths/position and elbow would be epic, though you have covered it quite well on previous videos. Thanks for all that you do!
More of these! This is awesome
Brilliant series. Could you review the Hammer strength setaed dip machine?
Recommendation for future video. How to free weight bench press with out destroying your shoulders or tearing a pec tendon
My gym has just replaced their entire equipment to hammer strength, please keep it coming!
as always, amazing content. was just talking about this the other day. thank you!
thats great i started training in a shortened rom in this machine last week and now i have the proof :D
This machine is ALWAYS being used at my gym.
I complement this with Bowflex and place bands on this hammer incline for more resistance at the top. Just my fix.
An excellent video! BZ!
Best chest workout for older men with shoulder issues.
great work!
Thank you so much for the bottom half rep advice. I’ve been doing that past full lockout failure. Now I know it’s golden. Thank you, Joe, for the detailed explanation! 🫡
Hi Joe! Great video, I really enjoyed the detailed explanation!
Can you do a video of the rowing machine that is usually shown in all of your back training videos with Terrence or other athletes?
I don't know the brand name, but it diverges as you do the row movement.
Great content as always!
Great breakdown!
I love it. Great machine. Almost indestructible so gym owners like them too!
Very true! They are very durable.
This was great timing. I just joined a new gym which has this machine. I used it today and couldn’t put my finger on why it felt so useless. In the stretched position I could basically feel no tension or stretch and the movement only got difficult near the top. I won’t be using it again
more of this Joe
Thanks Joe, very helpful, honestly. I am a machine guy because I can have better path way, ensuring both arms move in the same direction. I suffer from great inbalances, machines keep my body in check.
In my gym we have the Hammer 2in1 incline press/pull down
And the only way to make this piece usable is by putting a plate (5-10kg) in the pulldown handle. So by the time your getting to the top (heaviest part), the 10 kg plate on the other side is the furtherest from the axil acting as a counter balace, making the weight through the rep more even. It's far from perfect or close to a Prime incline, but its a slight upgrade
Great video! Thanks. More please
Great work!
Hammer Strength needs to update this machine. Either change the bench angle or the angle, shape, and weight placement of the arms. Plenty of other companies can make these with proper (at least better) force curves.
I like this set up 👍🏻
I like doing these first in the workout because we seem to fatigue more quickly in the short position (you’d be a lot weaker if you did it last). Hitting full ROM failure then doing partials is another technique I like to maximize the stimulus. Because it’s not super lengthened, I find it’s a good way to warm up the shoulders before deep presses and you get more triceps at the top (neuromechanical matching). 1-2 sets gets the job done, then I save my volume for more mid-lengthened work.
Thanks for sharing!
Hammer low row would be awesome
Hammer strength iso lateral row please!
i THINK you can also put some plates on the handle and that way, you make it more lenghtened/mid bias
The lack of a unrack function also makes these machines blow. You need to stick a wood block or barbell collar under the arm just to be able to unrack your first rep
This is that work,Coach.
I like this vid 🔥
(New subscriber)
Thanks for the feedback and the sub! 🙏
Great video!
What about the same incline press just with stack added(I don’t know how to call it),there is any difference with the resistance profile?
I’m talking about hammer strength *
Can you do one of these for the Hammer Strength decline press please?
All good but I miss the single pulley cable plate racks that allow you to do tricep pushdowns with a V-bar. These build your tris better than anything else. 99% of gyms I see nowadays have cable plate racks with 4-6 pulley wheels on them, which reduces the effectiveness big-time.
Excellent!
This makes it a quite complicated machine, if you work out with a partner. The adjustments on hammer strength is "fluid" and not position 1,2,3 etc. getting the exact same position every time is not that easy. (not the end of the world, but why machines could benefit from numbered incremental adjustments).
Partial reps out of the bottom work well when you can't complete your last full rep.
Yup! Thats why is discuss that in the video 👊
Prime is goated, wish it was more common
Do the hammer strength belt squat!
I find that if you put seat to where the handles are to like your shoulders you’ll feel it a lot more in the chest
This is really outstanding. I had to watch the lever diagram a couple times. Physics was never my strongest course in college 😂.
Question…as a general rule then for all machines would you say the ideal is that they need to be heaviest in stretch position to be most effective?
Also would love review on hammer OHP- been using a lot to do drop sets and it feels better on my shoulder the way the seat is at an incline.
We have one of these at my gym but I prefer to use the Nautilus Leverage incline machine.
Thx for the video, really good content, how about the hammer horizontal press resistance profile ?
Love ya papa joe
I wish someone told me to let my scapula naturally move 10 years ago. Wouldnt have this jank ass scap/humeral rhythm i do now and years of shoulder issues.
11:53 I would like to learn more about that
Theoretically you could lift and angle the resistance profile :)
It’s an okay machine but it’s hard to get a deep stretch
What about the HS side lateral machine and the HS pullover?
Awesome video Joe, liked and subscribed. Need more content like this. For this machine specifically I’ve always wondered why the resistance profile is so ascending for whatever reason. Is there any way to change the resistance profile on this machine? Ie; counter weight? Since banding would make it even more ascending?
Wow great content. Like the other comments please do a lot more of these XD. Can I get your traffic light colour for the Flat DB Press? About to add it in next workout
Hammer Strength low and high row! Thanks
Funnily enough I just got temporary access to one if these and it is very popular. I tried going quite heavy doing full ROM and yeah not good. Doing 12-20 somewhat partial ROM as an accessory was mich better.
I'm on my second unit of this machine and the resistance profile is just crappy even on the parallel handles version.
Since it's in my home gym I'm debating having a welder add some angled weight horns onto the machine to approximate the Prime units customizable resistance curve as I love the movement, just not the way the resistance becomes ridiculous at lockout
Good stuff coach, from what i gather, the pin loaded version of this same machine would be considered a better choice since it would probably have a more consistent profile. Would that be correct in your view?
I KNEW THIS MACHINE SUCKED. FEELS SO BAD. THANKS COACH JOE.
I've done a lot to the point where I need to go regular bench or dumbbell bench
Amazing stuff, Coach! What chest exercise would you recommend instead?
For converging machines, prime and nautilus make better pieces. Plenty of great free weight options as well
Fantastic content, what about gullotine press? Old school guys and some modern nerds say it should target upper chest.. When in theory going wide aligns with sternal fibers right?
I really don’t like this machine but it’s one of the few incline options at mainstream gyms
11:52 PLEASE MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT THAT
I've read there is a way to sort of "hack" this machine to improve it's resistance profile to more lengthened/mid range bias. Are you familiar with how that could be done?
Incredible content Joe. I have the super incline plate loaded, I’ll start implementing partials in that one. I also have the incline hammer with the stack. What do you think about going full range of motion on that one?
The pin loaded isn’t as overloaded at the top. So could still use partial ROM, but likely not as dramatic
Are u sure about the arch being always beneficial? Did arch for 10 years and started flattening a few months ago and even though i'm weaker I feel a way greater stretch and my chest grew. My muscle mind also increased. But i started to incorporate both (one arched, heavy session and one flat light session)
Guess it is a different stimulus.
For some people (large ribcage), too much arch could potentially take away from upper chest involvement a bit.
Joe!!! DId you forget what happens when joints stack?? You want the weight heaviest in the lengthened? On a press??? You love using bands to deload the bottom...which is necessary to match your strength profile to the resistant profile. Yes you get weaker in the shortened but the decreased moment arm more than makes up for it. You taught me well enough that I feel confident saying WHAT??? ;-)
The incline Hammer Strength over does it as far as making the end harder to take into account joints stacking which is the same thing that happens if you over band it whether you are banding from the top or the bottom. You taught me well, I think, lol.
Joints don’t stack with the line of force on converging press.
Watch this if you haven’t seen it:
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The whole series is good. But part 3 talks about converging press.
My arms feel too long needs adjustable buttom height
Hi coach. I don’t understand why the line of force is vertical when the machine path is like an arc? Am I missing something?
Can you check the hammer strength flat chest press? It's better than the incline.
Hey Joe, what do you think of the startrac leverage incline press? Does it have a similar profile as the hammer strength?
Could you counter balance the fact its lighter at the bottom by using a band to maker it harder at the bottom?
Couldn't the resistance profile be improved by tilting the machine back using plates underneath the front legs of the machine?
Possibly. Likely not enough to get the lever arm to parallel to start. And then you have to worry about the machine tipping as well.
Have you ever used any Fettle Fitness pieces? I think they are a hammer strength knock off. Sometimes knock offs can be slightly better from my experience
close to a 1 to 1 copy, I got a used 'fettle' (its from the same chinese factory as fettle) pulldown and its identical to the hammer pulldown with the same problems all hammer machines have with the end part of the ROM being a bit too hard vs other plate loaded lines like Matrix
@@PaintDryLiftinggood to know. I was looking at their chest supported t bar row to add to the garage gym.
what about the one with the pin stacks?