This is a super cool direction you're taking the game in :D I really like this type of game. Like how in Noita, all the important parts like story elements, portals, lakes, and bosses, are all in the same spot, and only the "filler" is procedurally generated :D
Glad to see that ur giving this game a strong aim now, excited for the next updates, best of luck with it! Aaaaand as always....... Amazing video, man. : )
These devlogs are so interesting. Im also digging into Procedural Dungeons for my game and im having a blast inside my mind about how to approach it. The layout approach where you build it by stepping one thing on layers on top of the other gave me little power to stylize the dungeons. I ended up creating chunks of rooms with possible connections between them. Keep up the good work!!
Great video as always, this new direction sounds very interesting. I'm not sure too much about Gothic but in the clip you showed it looks like you're body was getting looted? Maybe that could be an element too so if you lose in combat be it whilst mining or in a settlement you get looted and ditched somewhere random? Also if you want proc gen caves at some point, you could always add special cave systems which change every day?
Exactly. The idea is to use procedural generation "in-between" the usual levels as additional content, however, in a seamless way so the player does not necessarily realise that it is proc-gen. I need to find ways to make these NPCs useful (emotionally and tactically) to avoid that people just "kill off" everything in order to be as fast as possible.
@@bitbraindev ah yeah! That sounds great the seamlessness will be quite interesting, looking forward to seeing you tackle that. And good point, I mean I believe you mentioned how you want them all to be able to wipe out a settlement if they so pleased. Suppose you want them to be able to trade with settlements, maybe recruit companions, give perks to settlements basically
YES!! I've been SO excited to hear where this was going outside of just the crafting and core mechanics. As an ultimate narrative-nerd, this is definitely something that makes me feel like the game is transcending and coming together in a higher, more cohesive way. Love love love deep lore and greyzone characters. ♥︎ Ultimate hype! (Also, your sketches and maps are absolutely beautiful!)
This sounds like It will be very interesting to watch as you develop. Do you consider this scope creep for your project? Do you plan to create a vertical slice of you vision to confirm the design is what you want before you invest the time to develop all of these mechanics and content?
Yes, exactly. I will not fully commit building out the levels until I nailed the core building blocks. The following devlogs + demo versions will put those under test. I'd not consider this change in direction scope creep, as I did not even had a proper scope before. After all, forging and mining is not really captivating gameplay.
@@sicktricks95 Excellent question! I'd say: the Dwarves themselves will play a big part. Also the fact that on the surface this game looks like a cute pixelart game, however, the player could go and do gruesome things if they wanted. Design-wise quite the opposite of, let's say, Stardew Valley (which tries to be positive and free of aggression)
Have you played any of the Spiderweb Software games? They do a nice job of making the hand-made maps look "lived in", including trash dumps and other little details here and there.
Just joined the discord and have been playing the game! great job! though i do enjoy the peacefulness of the game so maybye make a no monsters? idk id have to see the combat mechanics first. just an idea. thank you for making this!
Excellent game, I will surely try it when you finish it, I have a question for you that you use godot, You can change the icon of the game when you are going to export it to the desktop or something like that, because when I change it and I export it, the icon continues to appear. godot instead of my custom icon, it would be very helpful if you could tell me how to change the icon!
how did you/would implement custom items , like a pickaxe that mines a 3x3 area every 3rd swing or a sword that shoots a projectile , most games use a simple Resource for their items so that wouldn't really be possible
Great question! The problem is mostly around separation of concerns. You want to separate your "data" from your "behaviour" and you can do that through composition. You basically "stick" them together like LEGO bricks and combined they are an item, an NPC or whatever you like. In my game, all items are described as resources. Those resources define configuration such as visuals, sound, naming and logic. However, the logic itself is not part of the resource but the resource just contains information about what logic to use. I'll show this sort of stuff in a future devlog for sure!
I hope its not a big change. its not a good sign for a project if the dev keep changing the direction of the game in this stage. I hope its a clickbait.
@@pritheebecareful7070 I don't know. in one hand, the work he did until this moment was just just for the sake of learning godot, so i guess its ok to plan somthing else now. in the other hand, its really fills like he just got bored of his own game, and now he take all his biggest dreams and throw them on the game. instead of searching for flaws in the game mechanics, and how to make the game better, he just make the game more hard to produce. the ability to kill NPCs is super complex mechanic. its sound cool, of course, but its way to ambitious. he could release this game and start a new one with more focus on story. but he didn't. maybe he thought the game isn't good enough now. I don't think this changes is the right solution. and any developer need some wins. to start a project and to make it to the final line. to release it. to be proud of it. he was smart when he started learning godot. you should focus on small project. so why not sticking with that?
The current game has nothing to offer though. I released plenty of free games in the past before. Yes, I got bored of the current vision because it is not a game I want to build. Mainly, this game is a project I always wanted to build, it is ambitious but there is no other game I would like to work on right now. My goal is not to make this commercially successful either. I just want to build something I personally enjoy playing.
@@bitbraindev I don't care about commercial success. I'm just afraid you set yourself for disappointment. I'm not professional in this areas, but its feels very ambitious. and if your core mechanics will not be good enough, the story will not save it. and when you build the mechanics around the story, you don't have enough freedom to explore. when you start with prototyping of the core gameplay loop, its much easier to build the story around it. don't you agree with me on that?
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Hey man, just discovered your vids and saw you haven't posted any devlogs in awhile. You've got a very atmospheric game, I hope you'll continue.
New devlog is still in the making. I am 80% there I'd say :)
This is a super cool direction you're taking the game in :D I really like this type of game. Like how in Noita, all the important parts like story elements, portals, lakes, and bosses, are all in the same spot, and only the "filler" is procedurally generated :D
Noita is definitely an inspiration! ;)
@@bitbraindev :D
I think a change'll be good for the game, so far there was no real motivation to be doing what you were doing. I'm excited to see what's coming!
This is great! 12 months is a huge milestone. I wish you the best. Your pixel art skills are truly epic, I might add.
Thank you!!
Glad to see that ur giving this game a strong aim now, excited for the next updates, best of luck with it! Aaaaand as always....... Amazing video, man. : )
These devlogs are so interesting.
Im also digging into Procedural Dungeons for my game and im having a blast inside my mind about how to approach it.
The layout approach where you build it by stepping one thing on layers on top of the other gave me little power to stylize the dungeons.
I ended up creating chunks of rooms with possible connections between them.
Keep up the good work!!
This is turning out to be a very lovely game. I don't know why digging and searching for resources is so appealing to me but I love it.
Deep down in our hearts we are all just bearded dwarves searching for treasure.
I love what you're doing with this game, very inspiring for me!
your art direction skills on the video production are so incredible
Aaaaw, thank you!!
I like the new direction very very much.
You are aiming in at the right direction. Looking forward to see the next nice video !
Super excited for this! Really taking shape and a huge inspiration! Keep up the great work sir
Good luck with this! Love when you take a cool game and add some narrative to it. Immediately I'm more captivated by it.
This is exciting! I love that you want to make it more story-driven. Having immersive towns and realistic NPCs sounds really interesting!
Great video as always, this new direction sounds very interesting.
I'm not sure too much about Gothic but in the clip you showed it looks like you're body was getting looted? Maybe that could be an element too so if you lose in combat be it whilst mining or in a settlement you get looted and ditched somewhere random?
Also if you want proc gen caves at some point, you could always add special cave systems which change every day?
Exactly. The idea is to use procedural generation "in-between" the usual levels as additional content, however, in a seamless way so the player does not necessarily realise that it is proc-gen.
I need to find ways to make these NPCs useful (emotionally and tactically) to avoid that people just "kill off" everything in order to be as fast as possible.
@@bitbraindev ah yeah! That sounds great the seamlessness will be quite interesting, looking forward to seeing you tackle that.
And good point, I mean I believe you mentioned how you want them all to be able to wipe out a settlement if they so pleased.
Suppose you want them to be able to trade with settlements, maybe recruit companions, give perks to settlements basically
This looks 🔥, at a glance seems like it combines all my favs into one, Terraria, DF, Caves of Qud
YES!! I've been SO excited to hear where this was going outside of just the crafting and core mechanics. As an ultimate narrative-nerd, this is definitely something that makes me feel like the game is transcending and coming together in a higher, more cohesive way. Love love love deep lore and greyzone characters. ♥︎ Ultimate hype!
(Also, your sketches and maps are absolutely beautiful!)
You are awsome keep up the good work very inspiring, drastic change but for good reason only you can see your vision!
Really catchy game! Good luck with your project! :-)
and now im hyped. this sounds awesome and i cant wait to play it.
This is going in an exciting direction! I love the idea to make the town more immersive.
BEST VIDEO EVER BRO! :D LOVE IT SO MUCHHHH and the quality mmmmm
This sounds like It will be very interesting to watch as you develop. Do you consider this scope creep for your project? Do you plan to create a vertical slice of you vision to confirm the design is what you want before you invest the time to develop all of these mechanics and content?
Yes, exactly. I will not fully commit building out the levels until I nailed the core building blocks. The following devlogs + demo versions will put those under test.
I'd not consider this change in direction scope creep, as I did not even had a proper scope before. After all, forging and mining is not really captivating gameplay.
@@bitbraindev what do you consider the twist or unique aspect to your new design versus other games of the genre?
@@sicktricks95 Excellent question! I'd say: the Dwarves themselves will play a big part. Also the fact that on the surface this game looks like a cute pixelart game, however, the player could go and do gruesome things if they wanted. Design-wise quite the opposite of, let's say, Stardew Valley (which tries to be positive and free of aggression)
Have you played any of the Spiderweb Software games? They do a nice job of making the hand-made maps look "lived in", including trash dumps and other little details here and there.
Perhaps a dungeon theme? I see a chest, and chest means loot!
Just joined the discord and have been playing the game! great job! though i do enjoy the peacefulness of the game so maybye make a no monsters? idk id have to see the combat mechanics first. just an idea. thank you for making this!
The game will feature peaceful areas, however, those will not yield the highest rewards but are more meant for relaxed farming.
@@bitbraindev Awesome great to hear
Petition for the name of the series to change into cavelog.
Excellent game, I will surely try it when you finish it, I have a question for you that you use godot, You can change the icon of the game when you are going to export it to the desktop or something like that, because when I change it and I export it, the icon continues to appear. godot instead of my custom icon, it would be very helpful if you could tell me how to change the icon!
Let me see what I can do, maybe a TH-cam #short!
@@bitbraindev Yeees, thank you bitbrain
cave is going to be huge!!!
Your drawings are amazing
Thank you!
looking nifty.
One thing that i dont see much use in the current update is the oil container. You just heat the ore and beat with the hammer, what is the oil
for?
You can cool stuff down with it. Useful if you want to loot ingots right after smelting.
how did you/would implement custom items , like a pickaxe that mines a 3x3 area every 3rd swing or a sword that shoots a projectile , most games use a simple Resource for their items so that wouldn't really be possible
Great question! The problem is mostly around separation of concerns. You want to separate your "data" from your "behaviour" and you can do that through composition. You basically "stick" them together like LEGO bricks and combined they are an item, an NPC or whatever you like.
In my game, all items are described as resources. Those resources define configuration such as visuals, sound, naming and logic. However, the logic itself is not part of the resource but the resource just contains information about what logic to use.
I'll show this sort of stuff in a future devlog for sure!
@@bitbraindev Thanks! I'll try to implement that into my game too , seems like a pretty ingenious way to add a lot of cool items
My dyslexia read it as Thalnor Coal Bread haha...
🍞
I wanna know how you do the Directional "Attack"
I'll do a tutorial on it!
coooooool
Do you have any plans to publish the game on playstore and appstore?
Eventually, yes!
nice ;D
how can i make a chest like that in godot?
I'll make a tutorial on it!
Can you release it on android
I might at some point. PC and console has priority at the moment. I will order a Steamdeck soon to implement console UX!
I like how you don't realize you're making another minecraft :D Classic gamedev fallacy, amright?
My game will have almost nothing in common with minecraft. I am not building a sandbox game.
Please android 🙏
I hope its not a big change. its not a good sign for a project if the dev keep changing the direction of the game in this stage. I hope its a clickbait.
What are your thoughts after watching the video?
@@pritheebecareful7070 I don't know. in one hand, the work he did until this moment was just just for the sake of learning godot, so i guess its ok to plan somthing else now. in the other hand, its really fills like he just got bored of his own game, and now he take all his biggest dreams and throw them on the game. instead of searching for flaws in the game mechanics, and how to make the game better, he just make the game more hard to produce. the ability to kill NPCs is super complex mechanic. its sound cool, of course, but its way to ambitious.
he could release this game and start a new one with more focus on story. but he didn't. maybe he thought the game isn't good enough now. I don't think this changes is the right solution.
and any developer need some wins. to start a project and to make it to the final line. to release it. to be proud of it. he was smart when he started learning godot. you should focus on small project. so why not sticking with that?
The current game has nothing to offer though. I released plenty of free games in the past before. Yes, I got bored of the current vision because it is not a game I want to build. Mainly, this game is a project I always wanted to build, it is ambitious but there is no other game I would like to work on right now. My goal is not to make this commercially successful either. I just want to build something I personally enjoy playing.
@@bitbraindev I don't care about commercial success. I'm just afraid you set yourself for disappointment. I'm not professional in this areas, but its feels very ambitious. and if your core mechanics will not be good enough, the story will not save it. and when you build the mechanics around the story, you don't have enough freedom to explore. when you start with prototyping of the core gameplay loop, its much easier to build the story around it.
don't you agree with me on that?
but of course I really respect you and your decisions. what you do is amazing and beautiful.
if it wasn't clear.