As a player that mainly plays a kite build (not lamm nor ar's, I use light laser rifles and plasma missiles on a mainly alba frame) I'm studing this intently. Gotta know how to counterplay the counterplay hah
I'd be interested to see your take on an explosive thrower build. Pretty unique weapon imo. I love quick swap builds! They can be pretty oppressive too. Some of my matches against lightweight builds are over instantly and it makes tank builds very angry lol.
@@GloriousGEO I made a heavy quad missile AC that baits people up close and kicks them. It's kinda does the same thing the plasma thrower variants do except with long range capablilties and a more consistent yet less potent close range punish. Weak to zim rush tho, they just have more stagger.
My main AC isn't build for kiting but I will absolutely bunny hop away from Dual Gats, so this is helpful since I know when to slam them with the explosive launcher
Yeaaa running into kite builds has made me debate on either going with VP-20D or keeping the VP-20C for my close range lightweight (ik there's other options but I stick with those two for the blue booster aesthetic XD) cuz that extra en capacity is really nice to have against them
@@GloriousGEO mhmm I think I've been swapping between the two going back and forth with "Do I want a bit faster recharge delay, or more capacity" but with vertical movement being so prominent the capacity has been more enticing
Have you ever seen anyone using 621's Loader 4 in ranked before? What's your opinion on Loader 4's build from a ranked perspective, and what would you change for it to be more viable while still staying true to the original?
At least change its inner parts, especially generator. JOSO is a complete ass, even my 0,5$ battery charger will give it a run for its money in terms of energy.
It's terrible. The closest it gets to being "competitive" is Raven's build. Still, bringing it or the pilebunker into ranked will have you eaten alive by most builds.
Struggling to get out of B2 with my own personal LOADER 04 build. It does decent against tanks since you stay away while keeping the stagger bar growing with rifle and missiles, and then swoop in for a blade, rinse and repeat. Heavies are a mixed bag, especially if they chase and have shotguns/zims/ gats, then its tough to engage in a firefight and stagger build contest because they clearly have more firepower than you. BVO's and other LW builds basically destroy me because I am not as fast as them, dont have as much EN, and cant build stagger as quickly. Its tough lol, but I'm gonna keep trying til I get to A (if that happens). I guess after that I would have to pick up meta if I want to go to S lol.
Fought an S rank player in custom who knew of the laser swap tactic and kept kiting my every moves. Only was able to beat him once with the laser swap build and one heavy tank build but he still beat me too many times 😵💫 gonna have to start using new builds to keep up lol
So, when I assault boost at the Missle boats they just always seem to be backing away from me FASTER than I can AB to them, even with the Beurzel. What is happening in these situations that you’re doing different? Because it is massively stressing me out that they just always seem to be infinitely farther.
Well if they are really, really far away, ab towards the sky. Use a coral gen. Then do unlock ab dodges to quickly catch up to them. I have 268 spd with buerzel, so If I can do it, you can do it, too.
@@GloriousGEO that wouldn't be a bad idea but there are alot already out there. The knowledge I'm really seeking is a weapon combination tier list. There is almost zero information on it.
I think compare to these high skills stuff most of the pilot under S RANK or even brain dead s rank could not do. How about just tell them 1. You need a good internet and don't play global server to avoid run into some 200-300ms over Russian dudes or European pizza boy or teleport Chinese pilot power by the anti freedom great fire wall🧱 2. Remember you need all the disaster build do not require skill in your AC list ready to be loaded anytime just like this show case 3. Don't be too serious since this kind of cannon build almost could see at S Rank every day and they always pump out cable if they are going to lose 😂
LRB/plasma rifle combo got me to S rank no prob. I know you miss out on some tank damage, but it was never a problem. LRB/plasma snipes kites and rats because of the projectile speed. Still huge damage.
@GloriousGEO had to work 12 hour shifts all thru December so didn't have enough time to grind teams as much, just wanted to get the nameplate for the s rank in 1v1 more haha
Teapot here I'm sorry for some confusion on your winning games getting both zero point and 1 point only. I'm currently at the very end bottom of the S rank list, to check up players who currently reached S rank 😂
Is there a reason you don’t use both red shifts at the same time? My swap build doesn’t mix the weapons like that and I wanna make sure I’m not putting myself at a disadvantage
Question: If time runs out in a ranked 1v1 match with both players still alive, is it the person who did the most damage is the winner, or the person who has the most overall health left?
@@GloriousGEO Ah, so it’s the percentage of health remaining. That explains the first match in the first fight, you were up three quarters to his half, so all you needed to do was just hunker down and either win by time out, or let him get impatient and put himself into a bad position. Thanks, I never thought about that, I’ll definitely try that strategy out in the future.
Yea, but now look at the results. Say what you want previously, but now it's turned into a mass kiting game, which is a slog to play against and not fun to watch.
Flipper builds 🤮 I hope they nerf it somehow. Not sure if it would be by slowing the swap animation for heavier weapons or how they can implement to bring better balance.
It's disgusting but it's what works. Honestly nutty how the only actual counter that build has, is shown being defeated right here in this video lol. You out-damage tanks, laugh in the face of lightweights of ANY type, and can catch many kiters.
It is a passive build that mainly backpedals or goes up and down that shoots missiles and other long range weapons to play keep away. Does not chase targets.
They'll try to stay away from your weapon's effective range while either hovering above you or goes full sonic speed around you. Which is personally it is very annoying.
@@Faezine"go full sonic speed around you" I am new to the armored core 6 pvp scene but I don't understand, you're upset at lightweight, fast builds for being fast?
If it works for them they can keep doing it but players call them RATS🐀 for a reason. I play ranked for engaging fights, not chasing some Mook around a huge map designed for 3V3 teams. Win or lose its just so boring but Ranked is what it is, kites, meta builds & cancer. Once in awhile I get a fun match though.
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Kite builds after the opponent has a health lead: *I'm in danger*
watching that lamm at the beginning just suck on their own medicine is hilarious
So satisfying
Just what I was looking for. I want to see anything that teaches how to beat the meta builds... and maybe one of the best meta builds themselves
I'll keep them coming!
This is the definition of anti-meta, because it's only meta because kites are. It's annoying when people refer to just plain meta as anti-meta...
@@seraphwithatank6535 nah laser spam using weapon switch is definitely meta
The wisdom of the geo archon is superb 😮
Glad to share my ancient knowledge!
As a player that mainly plays a kite build (not lamm nor ar's, I use light laser rifles and plasma missiles on a mainly alba frame) I'm studing this intently. Gotta know how to counterplay the counterplay hah
You dastard haha
I know the solution: alt+f4
Shame on you
I'd be interested to see your take on an explosive thrower build. Pretty unique weapon imo.
I love quick swap builds! They can be pretty oppressive too. Some of my matches against lightweight builds are over instantly and it makes tank builds very angry lol.
I'll try the thrower
@@GloriousGEO It's actually pretty potent in free aim too due to the large AOE and the charge up having ~200m range
Yeah, its awesome. Just dont know a good combo yet
@@GloriousGEO I made a heavy quad missile AC that baits people up close and kicks them. It's kinda does the same thing the plasma thrower variants do except with long range capablilties and a more consistent yet less potent close range punish. Weak to zim rush tho, they just have more stagger.
@@xeta2466 Ah, I only play bipeds
This is going to help so many players with fighting against metas. Thank you!
Definitely!
It's becoming the meta itself...
Let me know what guide I should make next!
Anti-Nebtank (2x Nebula and 2x Auroras).
How to duel with LAGYS 😂 half serious half joke 🤣
How to beat viento melee spam builds.
Yeah, anti bvo should be interesting.
Anything that doesn't involve a laser swap build, because it hard counters almost everything.
Using cover and scanning is so underrated.
Very much so!
I think using the obstacles properly in the various stages are what a pro player should do, my compliment bro :) I think the same
Exactly!
My main AC isn't build for kiting but I will absolutely bunny hop away from Dual Gats, so this is helpful since I know when to slam them with the explosive launcher
You show 'em, champ!
Yeaaa running into kite builds has made me debate on either going with VP-20D or keeping the VP-20C for my close range lightweight (ik there's other options but I stick with those two for the blue booster aesthetic XD) cuz that extra en capacity is really nice to have against them
Extra en capacity is super important!
@@GloriousGEO mhmm I think I've been swapping between the two going back and forth with "Do I want a bit faster recharge delay, or more capacity" but with vertical movement being so prominent the capacity has been more enticing
that 1 hp clutch is awesome
It was epic
Alt into F4 is a true combo on the space station stage
100% success rate
Have you ever seen anyone using 621's Loader 4 in ranked before?
What's your opinion on Loader 4's build from a ranked perspective, and what would you change for it to be more viable while still staying true to the original?
I've seen several adaptations of it. Basically, you need to compensate its low firepower with extreme levels of skill.
At least change its inner parts, especially generator. JOSO is a complete ass, even my 0,5$ battery charger will give it a run for its money in terms of energy.
It's terrible. The closest it gets to being "competitive" is Raven's build. Still, bringing it or the pilebunker into ranked will have you eaten alive by most builds.
Struggling to get out of B2 with my own personal LOADER 04 build. It does decent against tanks since you stay away while keeping the stagger bar growing with rifle and missiles, and then swoop in for a blade, rinse and repeat. Heavies are a mixed bag, especially if they chase and have shotguns/zims/ gats, then its tough to engage in a firefight and stagger build contest because they clearly have more firepower than you. BVO's and other LW builds basically destroy me because I am not as fast as them, dont have as much EN, and cant build stagger as quickly. Its tough lol, but I'm gonna keep trying til I get to A (if that happens). I guess after that I would have to pick up meta if I want to go to S lol.
Awesome!!!
Thank you! Cheers!
Fought an S rank player in custom who knew of the laser swap tactic and kept kiting my every moves. Only was able to beat him once with the laser swap build and one heavy tank build but he still beat me too many times 😵💫 gonna have to start using new builds to keep up lol
Hahah he musy be pretty good
Have you seen the midrange, midweight setups that run javelins on the shoulders, moonlight, and a bazooka or harris? They are surprisingly oppressive!
Hmm, I'll have try out that combination!
I call this jousting, assault boost then unload all munitions, then hide again
I like the name of it!
Hide behind obstacles work againts coral missile or cnt ? Very interisting video by the way !
they do
I just use a hover minigun tank with Coral gen and shield. Endless AB and the 3 miniguns rip apart anything that isn't a LCB tank.
Dang thats good
So, when I assault boost at the Missle boats they just always seem to be backing away from me FASTER than I can AB to them, even with the Beurzel. What is happening in these situations that you’re doing different? Because it is massively stressing me out that they just always seem to be infinitely farther.
How fast is your thrust speed?
@@GloriousGEOI have a similar problem. My thrust speed ranges from 270 to 312 depending on the build. All of them use burzel
Well if they are really, really far away, ab towards the sky. Use a coral gen. Then do unlock ab dodges to quickly catch up to them. I have 268 spd with buerzel, so If I can do it, you can do it, too.
Get under them and AB up
GET UP DERE!!
Become a Scudder Turner god warrior and run away from the rot LCBs
I'll take the scudder pill.
Ehh, now look at what happened. Really want every game taking forever.
Ide enjoy a video about all the top tier weapon combinations and how they are used in combat.
I could do a weapon tier list!
@@GloriousGEO that wouldn't be a bad idea but there are alot already out there. The knowledge I'm really seeking is a weapon combination tier list. There is almost zero information on it.
that just goes into build videos then. Build videos are all about finding the right combination.
How is your speech so smooth and soothing?
Smoothy time
He drank Osmanthus Wine before the video to smooth out his voice.
Now can you do one but with Kikaku booster?
just melee cancel. its ez
Thanks for the tips, subscribe
I'm surprised the first player in the video has the same build as I do..
sus
@@GloriousGEO I have changed it to use the heavy machine guns but the paint is very very identical and indeed is sus.
2:20 Unbelievable that the kite player just sat in the air like that and didn't even try to push you. I just don't understand how that's fun.
kite players are a buncha tryhards.
I think compare to these high skills stuff most of the pilot under S RANK or even brain dead s rank could not do. How about just tell them 1. You need a good internet and don't play global server to avoid run into some 200-300ms over Russian dudes or European pizza boy or teleport Chinese pilot power by the anti freedom great fire wall🧱 2. Remember you need all the disaster build do not require skill in your AC list ready to be loaded anytime just like this show case 3. Don't be too serious since this kind of cannon build almost could see at S Rank every day and they always pump out cable if they are going to lose 😂
True
Lol I will get zero matches if I don't use the global server. There just aren't enough players to be picky.
@@MisterCynic18 then you understand my jokes right? 🤣
LEB and LRA rather than LRB/plasma or plasma/redshift?
It really depends on who you are fighting against. I'll have to make a video dedicated to this.
LRB/plasma rifle combo got me to S rank no prob. I know you miss out on some tank damage, but it was never a problem. LRB/plasma snipes kites and rats because of the projectile speed. Still huge damage.
Once I got to s rank in 1v1 I can no longer find a match for 3v3😅 what's up with that?
Yeah team matches are dead now.
@@GloriousGEO sad:( I wanted to go for double s ranks but I can't even get into a match so I'm hard stuck at b
@@GloriousGEO atleast I got the s ranked player card for singles
I knew this would happen. I S ranked team matches asap.
@GloriousGEO had to work 12 hour shifts all thru December so didn't have enough time to grind teams as much, just wanted to get the nameplate for the s rank in 1v1 more haha
Whao. You beat Navi
Oh? Are they a youtuber?
@@GloriousGEO She's been featured in some of the AC6 youtubers' channel
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Teapot here
I'm sorry for some confusion on your winning games getting both zero point and 1 point only. I'm currently at the very end bottom of the S rank list, to check up players who currently reached S rank 😂
Aye, no worries. Its a nice break from the sweaty tryhard builds i have to fight at s rank.
Is there a reason you don’t use both red shifts at the same time? My swap build doesn’t mix the weapons like that and I wanna make sure I’m not putting myself at a disadvantage
So I can use arms with better fire arm specialization without being overburdened.
this only works under A rank cause they just leave when the timer is about to run out LOL
Lmao
Question: If time runs out in a ranked 1v1 match with both players still alive, is it the person who did the most damage is the winner, or the person who has the most overall health left?
Whoever has the higher AP % wins.
@@GloriousGEO Ah, so it’s the percentage of health remaining. That explains the first match in the first fight, you were up three quarters to his half, so all you needed to do was just hunker down and either win by time out, or let him get impatient and put himself into a bad position. Thanks, I never thought about that, I’ll definitely try that strategy out in the future.
Once you beat me I assume ill end up in one of these videos :D
Probably not. I have yet to beat any shield lamms so far. I know you and that other S rank guy runs it. But I got close in our first match, gg.
@@GloriousGEO GG's I have faced you a few times. Not sure if I was on lamm ratknight or trip missile lamm ive been working on.
@@Winnowers Oh we have? Must have been a minute since it happened. GG's as well then.
i want guide how to beat 1 round quit players...
Haha, impossible. Sadly
Why does this voice sounds so familiar??
But where are those who share the memories?
Heavy builds going any faster that 320 is horrendous and unbalanced. I hate that the solution for heavy build simpltons is to just spam everything.
And this is after buerzel got nerfed too.
Yea, but now look at the results. Say what you want previously, but now it's turned into a mass kiting game, which is a slog to play against and not fun to watch.
Bro is that full frontal?
🤔
Love it when people reply with emojis
Everyone gives me shit for kiting but wtf am i supposed to do against a heavy with zimmermans? Im gonna dodge and get the hell away from you!
Kite builds just drag fights out for a very long time. It's get tiring fighting them.
@@GloriousGEOagreed.
How am I supposed to beat Kite players? This is impossible!
AB AB AB
Flipper builds 🤮 I hope they nerf it somehow. Not sure if it would be by slowing the swap animation for heavier weapons or how they can implement to bring better balance.
Fromsoft has a long list of things to nerf.
+1
It's disgusting but it's what works. Honestly nutty how the only actual counter that build has, is shown being defeated right here in this video lol. You out-damage tanks, laugh in the face of lightweights of ANY type, and can catch many kiters.
Do an anti heavyweight
Hm my laserswap is anti-heavy weight basically. And any kite build is basically anti-heavy too.
I prefer geos ACTUAL voice
You a real one!
Hear me out ima say something rlly stupid
Is there a guide on just only punching builds tactics in ranks
lmao. Not that I am ware of.
Stagger them, then punch punch. Then charge pilebunked while they still stagger mode. Thats the best method. Going all monk not worth it
So just hit them with big damage and then hide for a minute and a half? Yeah I think I’m just gonna play a fun game instead.
play unicorn overlord
What’s a kite build?
It is a passive build that mainly backpedals or goes up and down that shoots missiles and other long range weapons to play keep away. Does not chase targets.
They'll try to stay away from your weapon's effective range while either hovering above you or goes full sonic speed around you. Which is personally it is very annoying.
@@Faezine"go full sonic speed around you" I am new to the armored core 6 pvp scene but I don't understand, you're upset at lightweight, fast builds for being fast?
If it works for them they can keep doing it but players call them RATS🐀 for a reason. I play ranked for engaging fights, not chasing some Mook around a huge map designed for 3V3 teams. Win or lose its just so boring but Ranked is what it is, kites, meta builds & cancer. Once in awhile I get a fun match though.
Oh, hey. That's me. Ggs. But what's up with the AI voice?
It's zhongli. He's literally me fr
強いけど面白くない。
Such is ac6
accurate
Yes