Do you really want tons of ppl in the community? I'm always torn on this. I love getting new ppl into it and teaching them but I don't actually enjoy flying with more than 1 or 2 people unless it's at a race. All the races are 2 hours away and 30$ so I don't go to many. Oh ya wrong account Toronto FPV here. I enjoy how exclusive it feels and as it gets easier to get into you get more people who didn't really put in the work. There is something special about knowing your buddies have been through all the same crap as you.
For me its the literal learning experience, soldering, 3D printing, drone/printer tuning, custom 3D models etc. Rather than feeling or wondering if im always just trying to escape my own life in a probably half baked video game. Or some series on netflix that can get cancelled, or pay for 5 other subscriptions for all the other options, when I could just fly till i die.
I havent made fpv friends yet, so Ive just been enjoying nerding out on building, tech, etc. Everyone online seems super rad though. The cost, knowledge, and skill required to get started in the hobby is high, but so rewarding. It takes a certain type of person to push through that initial learning curve and I feel like there may never be a "blow up" moment, but always a steady trickle of newcomers.
Yea man, I 100% agree with what you're saying. I think there needs to be a lot more content In FPV that's more widely appealing. Whether it's about the community or mad tricks .
The closest i came was the docu i did in Costa Rica of the first time MCK competed against the DRL pilots. Took me months of writing and editing to get it together, ended up doing pretty well view wise (around 600k), but i think you make a good point. It shows an interesting story, like an olympics would, but doesnt necessarily make people want to do it. Ive tried half a dozen other similar docu style videos since. And while they are technically superior, (shot and editing wise), they usually dont break 10k views. Hopefully someone can figure out how to accomplish exactly what you are saying. I have always felt that anyone who races anything (cars, bikes, running), any one whoever goes to cars and coffee, will enjoy FPV. (and FPV has a SUBSTANTIALLLY smaller budget needed than those things). But have struggled to show that. Good luck, hope you bring more eyes on us.
As someone new to FPV this year but has flown DJI since the Phantom 1 I have to say that there is a reason DJI is King. FPV is a pain in the ass. The learning curve is as steep as the grand canyon for connecting all of the pieces. Even with a bind and fly. Flying is a bastard too but not bad if you are already very familiar with DJI. Then there is tuning in BetaFlight. This is something I would say 90% of people do not spend any time on. Whatever your bind and fly came with is what they run, or they run some rando preset a youtuber told them to use and their drone flys like........a fly. If it was not for Bardwell, Drainman, Oscar and a few other TH-camrs I would have never made it. And I am a self employed photographer and videographer who had some serious time to beat my head against the wall learning to fly for a job that I needed a tiny fpv for. From start to finish for me was 3 weeks from unboxing a Pavo20 to flying it for a job in a running factory with conveyor belts, tons of hazards and places to get lost. All I did was fly, non stop pack after pack of batteries. I drove my wife, my cats and my neighbors nuts. But after a ton of crashing and learning I absolutely love FPV. I still do use my Air3 but rarely. I really needed sub250 drones for covering events and it has become my go to for most anything. I do not do flippy dippy flying. I try to mimic my DJI for smoothness. It just allows me to get really really really close to stuff and to performers. There is nothing else like it.
What has kept my passion for this hobby is the culture, but it took 3 years to find my place....we need more vids on all the shenanigans that happen behind the scenes, the friendships, that have been made....maybe testimonial videos of how fpv changed their life instead of a 3 min video of ripping a local bando.......people can relate to someone who was a full blown addict and fpv has turned their life around....
@dizzydeanfpv45 i started in 2020, during the pandemic. I had a choice, get into solar or FPV. I realized if I did everything right with a solar setup, it sit and enjoy sunny days. FPV was the better choice. I love to fly and got my Part107. Flying is my therapy. I have a bad back that is fused that kept me from physical activities in my 30s.
Cost, patience and going outside is the biggest challenge to FPV. Unless they have a mentor or parent that also is into FPV or RC, they will watch the videos, but not join.
“Making the viewer feel like theyre hangin with the pilots” is a major point you nailed on and I agree with and it’s a feeling I strive to have in my videos. Good vid grim💯
2:16 I am coming from the electric unicycle community, and I always felt like this was is what is also be sold to newbies. Not the wheels so much. They are expensive, complicated, but hella fun similar to fpv drones. Current newbie here haha
Regulation, trade war , max of 8 pilots in the air and lack of all are welcome culture are also factors. making you feal like your hanging with the pilots in epic spots is the OG Rotor Riot way .
In "drone" groups that aren't fpv specific, ive had to debate people about fpv because they think it's dangerous. That having gogs on is way more dangerous than LoS. And that we fly dangerously near people and places... mostly these are people who have other pilot licences who have drones secondarily. (Price out the hobby so "idiots" cant afford to fly) I can get most to agree that it should be a part "108", that fpv has its own laws and regs... yet you have neewbs flying dji off a bestbuy shelf where as fpv is someone deep diving drones, even a newb will sim before flying. Dji you can pick it up and fly that day no experience... to me that's worse. I am making a drone business that is specifically meant to go to events and have a demo station that has a couple sim rigs, and a netted cage for tinywhoops to fly in. Because getting people to fly is how we change this hobby for the better.
your vids keep getting better and better man, really impressed, even jealous! i wish i had your editing and processing skills. im still leaarning but coming from photographic background. (DSLRs and SLRs, still have a B&W darkroom). Will donate on Friday. Putting it in calendar now bro.
Great video GR. I think you're spot on. You, yourself have a great way of presenting the hobby with your videos, the music and edits are always spot on and it really hits you with a feeling that this is fucking awesome, if i was new to the hobby, "The underground community of FPV pilots" would have won me over, it's a fucking masterpiece. Hope you get the funding, would love to see that shit. Love from Denmark.
FPV needs less people, not more. Exactly as skateboarding has died due to it's popularity (IMO) FPV will and is going to suffer a similar fate. More people = more Karens getting upset = more regulations. That's without the massive elephant in the room of WAR! and drone usage in WAR! SEE DJI REGULATIONS
@ you’re mistaken. Independent skateboarding that this video references, in the late 90s and early 2000s, is dead - Olympic woke skateboarding is very much alive. CKY and Jackass is seen as “toxic masculinity” while mainstream narratives are mainstream within skateboarding too. It will be the equivalent of DJI soulless flying taking over and the DIY heavy hitters being illegalised out of the hobby. FPV, like skateboarding, won’t die - but what it evolves into might be a lot less soulless than it is now… especially with the example of goofy jokes about dating apps and it being a male dominated sport!
VLOS regulations prevent you from flying solo FPV as a hobby.. that's a big hit to many people in backwards overregulated countries. IF they had to advertise all of the regulations on the box like they do cigarettes barely anyone would buy them at all.
What I like about your videos is that I know I'm going to get a story, a little adventure, some flying, and not feeling like I'm being sold to. I like the idea of the film you're working on, I hope you succeed in that endeavor :)
Great Video!! I was doing RC stuff already when I was a child, Cars, Boats, Planes… but then lost the Focus for many years. After Covid I got stuck home, working from Home, not going out that much… I was looking for a Hobby in RC that get‘s me outside and then i stumpled across J. Bardwell, watched his Videos, got my first copter parts, build it on my own and he got me into air. I started flying outside with less then 2 hours in a Sim, I crashed, repaired and got out again and still Iove it. Unfortunately in my Area, it seems that their are no other pilots around. I am based in Germany, NRW, I am out almost every day after work but after more or less 2 years, I am still flying alone. I see those videos of the community you have over sea and would like to see such communities here too. So please more of those community videos. I hope this will also help to grow Communities in other countries?! FPV is such a great experience, I would love to see more people joining. 🛸
Yep completely agree with most of your sentiments in this video. I pretty much just participate in the racing scene of FPV, and for the most part pilots will produce a video from their DVR which isn't that great to watch. The videos mix a blend of DVR with vlog footage from the pits, pilots and crowd are always so much more engaging and enjoyable to watch.
you make a great point about flow state, it wasn't necessarily a bad film, it was a pretty cool thing, however it doesn't really capture what its like to just go out and have a good time genuinely learning, goofing off with a bunch of cool ass people. crashing your quad, fixing it, and the real freedom that coms from the hobby.... like adding streamers to quads for streamer combat, or just plain ole getting out of the house and flying, even if its your buddies chasing your rc plane because you ither forgot something, or don't have any working quads.🤘🤘
- I can just build my drone and fly it and see with google from it?? like get into electronics and engineering and fixing stuff?? - yea, but gov can be after you or you need to add rhis remote spying crap and register and if its above 250, and there is a map where you are allowed... - nah, I'm good
The problem is the entry level cost of the hobby I have friends that are interested but then they realize they need to buy not only a drone but all the other equipment not to mention learn to fly and repair you have to really want it and unfortunately alot of people feel it's too much
@aarondodson1261 this is where another pilot with experience would help guide through the learning curve. I figured it out from TH-cam videos and trial and error. To join the fpv community is expensive. When you start out with cheap gear, you spend money to upgrade everything when you can. $250-$300 for beginner kits are a good start but you always spend more or leave the hobby.
Yes I fly solo yes I've been doing it for seems like ever 6 years I've only seen two pilots in person actually fly we need a film like what your saying to bring in more peeps it wood be nice to see other people get into the Hobby and see them fly my spot in the trees
Honestly 9 years ago I was approached with hostility by overbearing “super dads” thinking I’m creeping on their kids on the playground while I flew in an area 100 yards away (with subpar analog goggles) now I’m approached by people asking how much to get into the hobby. People are definitely more aware of Fpv quads, but the complete difficulty and cost of starting they sweat harder than Jimmy Swaggart in a motel parking lot.
I was thinking about this one, I'm into the FPV because of you, Botgrinder and fpvVegan, because you guys promote a unique community, it's like being part of a group of skaters that skate more for the fact of the community than for skating, I love flying drones but I also love what this community is about. I feel that for this reason, tinywhoops have been getting more popular, because everything around them feels more like the skater community, just watch the videos of FPV Vegan and how he goes out with his friends to walk around the city (flying inside malls, stores, outside of buildings or close to a lot of people), smoke, enjoy together and fly.
@@ChrisGripeos walk a mile in my shoes...dji users flying 50mbps and/or the "A" channel are de rigeur for dji users around here..Neither friendly when flying with other systems..One group of analog flyers disbanded because of their intrusive nature and when informed of the problems all we'd hear was "you should buy dji"..My answer..cold day in hell..
@ I still fly analog myself, and probably will for a while still. I have one friend that flies DJI system, but we take turns. Sounds like the DJI people in your area are not very friendly. That sucks man :\
I wonder how many people are like me, saw some freestyle footage and fell in love instantly. That’s all it took for me and now I’m in love. I feel like I also might be one the younger ones in this hobby lol.
I have said this to you bot and sugs about the time your doc came out and feel all three of you are at least going in the right direction for the community building aspect vs the DRL or race crowd and the learn to fly rioters every group has their place.
I like to compare this "issue" a bit to Speed cubing (solving Rubiks Cube fast). Everyone and their mother knows what a Rubik's cube is, and everyone can imagine other people solving it. It is a niche, but I recon a larger niche than FPV. It is easier to get into, there are hundreds of tutorials, cheap cubes and other equipment, and yet the community stayed relatively small for the most part. They also had documentaries and what not, but it never blew up to a wider audience. Some hobbies are just a niche, and so is FPV.
Honestly, I wish there were more people that were not afraid to go out and fly in my town. I fly alone 99.9% of the time. lol. Except for my visual observer that is. It’s like having a backpack buddy. Haha. They enjoy watching, but they don’t wanna put in the time to learn just yet.
I have seen more groups break up recently than anything which then equates to people just giving up & quitting. I think the real problem is, we don't see each other as fellow pilots anymore because we have brought politics into it now. FPV should just be about that, flying. If you fly & I fly there is our commonality, period. And the not so friendly competition, what happened to just flying & challenging each other to do bettter. I don't know but it's been rough the past few years. Oh & by the way, sweet fucken power loop, holy hell my dude!! Nailed it! 🤙😁❤️
Culture. It's pretty regional I find. I have flown in a few dozen countries. Where I'm currently at, my neighbors come out and watch me rip up the neighborhood. Especially when they hear the noise of me trippy spinning the street light poles, that usually gets all the kids outside too. I have already prevented a few petty thefts by scaring people away. And have full speed pegged two people in the head ,in this neighborhood, that were doing break ins. One left a decent puddle behind. So I'm considered block watch, with evidence video. And entertainment. This neighborhood is government, administrative, and some higher level military. For context. Overall neutral I would say. Find the niche I guess. Also that bridge power loop was clean AF!
Mini/micro whoops are the gateway drug. We need to get the consumer experience streamlined which is happening with the RTF kits. The snow ball is still rolling.
The weaponization of FPV drones now scares people. I am a recently retired soldier who picked up the hobby after learning about drone warfare. My defensive mind is always thinking about countermeasures, and the only way to do that is to understand the actual issue. People are scared of privacy rights when their privacy is always breached by the government anyway. It's a hidden social issue that will always be one of fear as more and more weaponization of drones come to light.
I feel another area to consider is maybe there is a lot of people still flying but just not posting on social media cause they don't want to take the risks. Me personally no i need to get my ass back out there again. Still will be rocking frsky and analog though money to tight
most people make commercials not too many people go on adventures....thats why i like fpv vegan he travels flys and i get to see new york ....great insight love this style of content you are doing ....video essay ..?
First off I like the approach of how you are taking this on. Too me I got in the hobby while analog was still a thing. People wanted to tune in on the same channel and watch each other fly. I kind of see it as playing halo with 4 friends doing couch co-op games. I gues skating has the same feeling. Doing tricks one by one. Seeing friends skate and sharing the expierence together. Flying fpv does not need to be expensive. You can fly cheap analog aliexpress/banggood. Quads budget bashers. No need for gopros when you are flying together and having that same expierence. I don't nessecarely need more people in thrle hobby. Just that pilots who are in the hobby meet each other the way they did before like you showed in the vid with the stadium. Not sure if anyone ever got big fines or not. The world population increased and its just denser. People are offender easier because they think you are spying on them.
I have so much footage no one will ever see which is sad but it sounds like the goal is to not share just cool flights but also the idiocrasy in-between.
Lol FPV logic be like, I can't fly at this bando because I won't be able to recover my drone, so I'll go powerloop this bridge over a river where I've already lost 3
Regarding the feeling of immersion, in the FPV vids - the FAA has made it all illegal - even in your own backyard, even flying a tiny. So - if anyone is still having fun, flying FPV in interesting places, where it's nothing but immersion - no public vids. The FAA killed it. You'd have to be in Canada, where you can fly anything sub250g FPV and BVLOS all by yourself. They don't regulate sub250g up there. And, you can make money, or publish your vids - when they're sub250g - up in Canada. But we got an insanely restrictive FAA - even the tiny - cannot be flown outside FPV, or BVLOS - even under the trees, on your own property. If you do it, and publish your vids - you are essentially, providing public proof that you've broken the law. Unless you are up in Canada, flying sub250g.
Film sounds rad! I think the biggest roadblock for most is $. Unless you know people with gear to try first, $1k gamble on new hobby is steep. Was for me anyway.
Very nice approach to panhandle an epic fpv trip and possibly even go to europe.. 30k would make for plenty of content and good hotels along the way 😂😂😂
I would love to be a part of an FPV community, but I wonder If that kind of thing actually exists outside of the US (and does it exist in the US outside of a tiny click of youtubers and a few larger meetups per year?), it certainly doesn´t here In sweden, unless you like racing at you lokal model plane club
It is very invovled. Not only do you have the complexity of FPV itself.. but add filming and camera gear, making storys and videos, editing.. there is soooo much. Ive been vlogging for a while, 4 years and one person has come to fly at my bando. And its probably one of the best bandos in the history of FPV in the south. Roll up. Show me the way of the edit. Thats where a lot of us lack. We spend all this time getting good at FPV then we end up sucking at cinematography. I be trying tho.. Lots of valid points. The culture is what got me into. Just like when i was a straight edge hard core punk kid in the 90s, Street BMX and skateboard. The culture brought me in.. expression followed after.
I love your videos. Like a self interview. I agree with the need for content, in all realism it's another version of RC and should be treated the same. Black and white and simple. Stay within 100 ft altitude of any object. Flesh has the right of way. And stay away from airports and infrastructure. Done
Money and the skills involved to build amd tune a quad to fly halfway decent is biggest factors scaring off newcomers...I mean a crap starter kit is like 800 bucks...unless u get a whoop and it's not the same
I have some mixed feelings about your message. For starters, we have the MultiGP documentaries that show a lot of the racing culture, which are quite good..... Secondly, and more importantly, we have a few people such as MAIONHIGH whom have left the community because she found it incredibly awful and toxic. Even the blog article she wrote about her negative experiences was proven accurate when fpv figures on social media attacked her after in exactly the style and rhetoric she talked about in the blog. They literally said it is her fault she got groped while flying and had a bad experience because she has attractive photos of herself online. If you want to grow the community and hobby overall we need to allow safe space for women to participate and condemn terrible behavior, and get more organized. I know everyone hates RID, and no one wants to comply. But jesus man, if we don't encourage compliance we are all shooting ourselves in the foot, making the "community" look like a bunch of fools. It may not be heavily enforced in 2024, but in the future things will be different. The community will dwindle and struggle if people get fined, get their gear confiscated, or worse. It's like promoting guns as a hobby but encouraging illegal practices. In the long run that's not even a hobby. It's something else entirely. It needs to be easy, safe, and welcoming--that's what you want to show. We are not trying to promote risk taking as a core feature of the hobby. The only risk should be crashing your quad and breaking it.
FPV is the early adopters and hackers of the drone hobby. DJI is the commodification of the drone hobby. Me and a couple friends bring our FPV gear to the local makerspace once a month when they have an open house, and there is usually a good diverse group of people that have never seen drones like this, but i have a hard time even recommending it to any of them. In fact, I am more likely to recommend a DJI NEO to someone like that, than a tiny whoop. Just because even the tiny whoop scene is about early adoption, smallest, lightest, highest KV, punchiest battery. You gotta be a sadistic ADHD socially akward weirdo to want the burden of staying up til 3am soldering tiny wires just to break them again after 2 flights. I wouldn't wish this type of obligation upon any of my friends lol! But the ones that stick around, the ones that don't care that they have 10 non flying quads hanging on their wall and no ambition to get a girlfriend, these are the good ones, they become good friends and all the tech gear and combined knowledge i've gained in our little circle makes me feel kind of superhuman. I know what a lot of people don't, but I can't even explain to them what that is!
Bro a few years back I mentioned on bardwell’s channel about fpv drones becoming weaponised,I was mocked by Mr B and most others big channels Sorry to say this but I’m laughing my ass off now at everyone crying about fpv! 😂 the funniest is the dweebs who had no fun by sticking religiously to ridiculous rules and laws 😅 Fpv will survive brother 👍 it just won’t ever be mainstream 🤝
I think you are taking yourself too seriously. All good things come to an end. Just do what you like doing while you are able to do it and forget about other people.
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Wow so true
Do you really want tons of ppl in the community? I'm always torn on this. I love getting new ppl into it and teaching them but I don't actually enjoy flying with more than 1 or 2 people unless it's at a race. All the races are 2 hours away and 30$ so I don't go to many. Oh ya wrong account Toronto FPV here. I enjoy how exclusive it feels and as it gets easier to get into you get more people who didn't really put in the work. There is something special about knowing your buddies have been through all the same crap as you.
my question is why did they use shipping containers instead of a fence or just tar it down??
Over regulation is going to be an even bigger problem in the future scaring off new pilots, i see new folks shifting to micros instead of 5"
Not the cool ones
Sub 250 was the future, and the future is now!
There is no replacement for a 5in mountain diver... dive a moutain. 😅
I'm chomping at the bit to get goggles and a quad. I've been flying the simulator with a Jumper 2 . Ready for something ELRS...
They can pry my 5" from my cold dead hands
For me its the literal learning experience, soldering, 3D printing, drone/printer tuning, custom 3D models etc. Rather than feeling or wondering if im always just trying to escape my own life in a probably half baked video game. Or some series on netflix that can get cancelled, or pay for 5 other subscriptions for all the other options, when I could just fly till i die.
I havent made fpv friends yet, so Ive just been enjoying nerding out on building, tech, etc. Everyone online seems super rad though.
The cost, knowledge, and skill required to get started in the hobby is high, but so rewarding. It takes a certain type of person to push through that initial learning curve and I feel like there may never be a "blow up" moment, but always a steady trickle of newcomers.
Yea man, I 100% agree with what you're saying. I think there needs to be a lot more content In FPV that's more widely appealing. Whether it's about the community or mad tricks .
what would "community" based fpv content look like in order to get a broader audience?
That’s an entire paragraph that said absolutely nothing mate! 😂
Could you be any more vague?
The closest i came was the docu i did in Costa Rica of the first time MCK competed against the DRL pilots. Took me months of writing and editing to get it together, ended up doing pretty well view wise (around 600k), but i think you make a good point. It shows an interesting story, like an olympics would, but doesnt necessarily make people want to do it. Ive tried half a dozen other similar docu style videos since. And while they are technically superior, (shot and editing wise), they usually dont break 10k views. Hopefully someone can figure out how to accomplish exactly what you are saying. I have always felt that anyone who races anything (cars, bikes, running), any one whoever goes to cars and coffee, will enjoy FPV. (and FPV has a SUBSTANTIALLLY smaller budget needed than those things). But have struggled to show that. Good luck, hope you bring more eyes on us.
As someone new to FPV this year but has flown DJI since the Phantom 1 I have to say that there is a reason DJI is King. FPV is a pain in the ass. The learning curve is as steep as the grand canyon for connecting all of the pieces. Even with a bind and fly. Flying is a bastard too but not bad if you are already very familiar with DJI. Then there is tuning in BetaFlight. This is something I would say 90% of people do not spend any time on. Whatever your bind and fly came with is what they run, or they run some rando preset a youtuber told them to use and their drone flys like........a fly. If it was not for Bardwell, Drainman, Oscar and a few other TH-camrs I would have never made it. And I am a self employed photographer and videographer who had some serious time to beat my head against the wall learning to fly for a job that I needed a tiny fpv for. From start to finish for me was 3 weeks from unboxing a Pavo20 to flying it for a job in a running factory with conveyor belts, tons of hazards and places to get lost. All I did was fly, non stop pack after pack of batteries. I drove my wife, my cats and my neighbors nuts. But after a ton of crashing and learning I absolutely love FPV. I still do use my Air3 but rarely. I really needed sub250 drones for covering events and it has become my go to for most anything. I do not do flippy dippy flying. I try to mimic my DJI for smoothness. It just allows me to get really really really close to stuff and to performers. There is nothing else like it.
The Viewer Feeling like they are hanging out with the pilots for sure! Meetups are so much fun. Super Cool Powerloop too
3:35 that’s funny, DRL is what actually got me into the hobby
I believe you're right on the money with this statement.
What has kept my passion for this hobby is the culture, but it took 3 years to find my place....we need more vids on all the shenanigans that happen behind the scenes, the friendships, that have been made....maybe testimonial videos of how fpv changed their life instead of a 3 min video of ripping a local bando.......people can relate to someone who was a full blown addict and fpv has turned their life around....
@dizzydeanfpv45 i started in 2020, during the pandemic. I had a choice, get into solar or FPV. I realized if I did everything right with a solar setup, it sit and enjoy sunny days. FPV was the better choice. I love to fly and got my Part107. Flying is my therapy. I have a bad back that is fused that kept me from physical activities in my 30s.
New pilot here and happy to join. Hope it will grow. Crashed my 5” yesterday, new motor on the way and will keep flying. I love it.
had this vid on the side screen and had to move it to the main and give it the respect it deserves
I took a similar step. I went from theater mode to full screen to really get immersed! It's a different aspect ratio than I am used to also
Cost, patience and going outside is the biggest challenge to FPV. Unless they have a mentor or parent that also is into FPV or RC, they will watch the videos, but not join.
“Making the viewer feel like theyre hangin with the pilots” is a major point you nailed on and I agree with and it’s a feeling I strive to have in my videos. Good vid grim💯
The FPV world needs a "Dust to Glory" (2005) moment. That was one time I felt like my little offroad racing hobby busted into the mainstream.
You made a great point about the community. FPV is awesome beyond the flying.
2:16 I am coming from the electric unicycle community, and I always felt like this was is what is also be sold to newbies. Not the wheels so much. They are expensive, complicated, but hella fun similar to fpv drones. Current newbie here haha
Regulation, trade war , max of 8 pilots in the air and lack of all are welcome culture are also factors. making you feal like your hanging with the pilots in epic spots is the OG Rotor Riot way .
In "drone" groups that aren't fpv specific, ive had to debate people about fpv because they think it's dangerous. That having gogs on is way more dangerous than LoS. And that we fly dangerously near people and places... mostly these are people who have other pilot licences who have drones secondarily.
(Price out the hobby so "idiots" cant afford to fly)
I can get most to agree that it should be a part "108", that fpv has its own laws and regs... yet you have neewbs flying dji off a bestbuy shelf where as fpv is someone deep diving drones, even a newb will sim before flying. Dji you can pick it up and fly that day no experience... to me that's worse.
I am making a drone business that is specifically meant to go to events and have a demo station that has a couple sim rigs, and a netted cage for tinywhoops to fly in. Because getting people to fly is how we change this hobby for the better.
I love CKY. i agree we need more creators NOT people trying to sell us crap
your vids keep getting better and better man, really impressed, even jealous! i wish i had your editing and processing skills. im still leaarning but coming from photographic background. (DSLRs and SLRs, still have a B&W darkroom). Will donate on Friday. Putting it in calendar now bro.
I got into whoops a couple of months ago and love the content you guys put out, can't wait to see the documentary.
Amazing video! Thank you for sharing.
I just started making drone content this summer.. so its interesting to hear your take on this.
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Bro the production on your vids is crazy
Great video GR. I think you're spot on. You, yourself have a great way of presenting the hobby with your videos, the music and edits are always spot on and it really hits you with a feeling that this is fucking awesome, if i was new to the hobby, "The underground community of FPV pilots" would have won me over, it's a fucking masterpiece. Hope you get the funding, would love to see that shit.
Love from Denmark.
FPV needs less people, not more. Exactly as skateboarding has died due to it's popularity (IMO) FPV will and is going to suffer a similar fate. More people = more Karens getting upset = more regulations. That's without the massive elephant in the room of WAR! and drone usage in WAR! SEE DJI REGULATIONS
? Skateboarding is the furthest thing from dead. Fpv needs to grow to create thriving irl communities across the world
@ you’re mistaken. Independent skateboarding that this video references, in the late 90s and early 2000s, is dead - Olympic woke skateboarding is very much alive. CKY and Jackass is seen as “toxic masculinity” while mainstream narratives are mainstream within skateboarding too. It will be the equivalent of DJI soulless flying taking over and the DIY heavy hitters being illegalised out of the hobby. FPV, like skateboarding, won’t die - but what it evolves into might be a lot less soulless than it is now… especially with the example of goofy jokes about dating apps and it being a male dominated sport!
@@FPVwineUK exactly
VLOS regulations prevent you from flying solo FPV as a hobby.. that's a big hit to many people in backwards overregulated countries.
IF they had to advertise all of the regulations on the box like they do cigarettes barely anyone would buy them at all.
As if i follow this rule 🤪
What I like about your videos is that I know I'm going to get a story, a little adventure, some flying, and not feeling like I'm being sold to. I like the idea of the film you're working on, I hope you succeed in that endeavor :)
Great Video!!
I was doing RC stuff already when I was a child, Cars, Boats, Planes… but then lost the Focus for many years. After Covid I got stuck home, working from Home, not going out that much… I was looking for a Hobby in RC that get‘s me outside and then i stumpled across J. Bardwell, watched his Videos, got my first copter parts, build it on my own and he got me into air. I started flying outside with less then 2 hours in a Sim, I crashed, repaired and got out again and still Iove it. Unfortunately in my Area, it seems that their are no other pilots around. I am based in Germany, NRW, I am out almost every day after work but after more or less 2 years, I am still flying alone. I see those videos of the community you have over sea and would like to see such communities here too. So please more of those community videos. I hope this will also help to grow Communities in other countries?! FPV is such a great experience, I would love to see more people joining. 🛸
Yep completely agree with most of your sentiments in this video. I pretty much just participate in the racing scene of FPV, and for the most part pilots will produce a video from their DVR which isn't that great to watch. The videos mix a blend of DVR with vlog footage from the pits, pilots and crowd are always so much more engaging and enjoyable to watch.
Go for it, Hope you reach the 30k 🎉
CKY brings back memories. The 70 mph poop and the running poop were lightyears ahead of their time.
you make a great point about flow state, it wasn't necessarily a bad film, it was a pretty cool thing, however it doesn't really capture what its like to just go out and have a good time genuinely learning, goofing off with a bunch of cool ass people. crashing your quad, fixing it, and the real freedom that coms from the hobby.... like adding streamers to quads for streamer combat, or just plain ole getting out of the house and flying, even if its your buddies chasing your rc plane because you ither forgot something, or don't have any working quads.🤘🤘
- I can just build my drone and fly it and see with google from it?? like get into electronics and engineering and fixing stuff??
- yea, but gov can be after you or you need to add rhis remote spying crap and register and if its above 250, and there is a map where you are allowed...
- nah, I'm good
Nobody complies with that trash
Great blog keep up the amazing work 👊🏽😎
The problem is the entry level cost of the hobby I have friends that are interested but then they realize they need to buy not only a drone but all the other equipment not to mention learn to fly and repair you have to really want it and unfortunately alot of people feel it's too much
@aarondodson1261 this is where another pilot with experience would help guide through the learning curve. I figured it out from TH-cam videos and trial and error. To join the fpv community is expensive. When you start out with cheap gear, you spend money to upgrade everything when you can. $250-$300 for beginner kits are a good start but you always spend more or leave the hobby.
Yes I fly solo yes I've been doing it for seems like ever 6 years I've only seen two pilots in person actually fly we need a film like what your saying to bring in more peeps it wood be nice to see other people get into the Hobby and see them fly my spot in the trees
Honestly 9 years ago I was approached with hostility by overbearing “super dads” thinking I’m creeping on their kids on the playground while I flew in an area 100 yards away (with subpar analog goggles) now I’m approached by people asking how much to get into the hobby. People are definitely more aware of Fpv quads, but the complete difficulty and cost of starting they sweat harder than Jimmy Swaggart in a motel parking lot.
Appreciate your Videos , this one is Well Done 💥
I was thinking about this one, I'm into the FPV because of you, Botgrinder and fpvVegan, because you guys promote a unique community, it's like being part of a group of skaters that skate more for the fact of the community than for skating, I love flying drones but I also love what this community is about. I feel that for this reason, tinywhoops have been getting more popular, because everything around them feels more like the skater community, just watch the videos of FPV Vegan and how he goes out with his friends to walk around the city (flying inside malls, stores, outside of buildings or close to a lot of people), smoke, enjoy together and fly.
Flowstate was great for FPV, imo.Maybe what’s needed now is a Flowstate sequel that shows the community behind FPV.
flowstate was a giant dji ad... dji is about a dji community and nothing else..
@@steve_beatty Interesting take. But I've never heard anybody else see it that way.
@@ChrisGripeos walk a mile in my shoes...dji users flying 50mbps and/or the "A" channel are de rigeur for dji users around here..Neither friendly when flying with other systems..One group of analog flyers disbanded because of their intrusive nature and when informed of the problems all we'd hear was "you should buy dji"..My answer..cold day in hell..
@ I still fly analog myself, and probably will for a while still. I have one friend that flies DJI system, but we take turns. Sounds like the DJI people in your area are not very friendly. That sucks man :\
We need more "28 grams" as BotGrinder showcased.
I wonder how many people are like me, saw some freestyle footage and fell in love instantly. That’s all it took for me and now I’m in love. I feel like I also might be one the younger ones in this hobby lol.
I have said this to you bot and sugs about the time your doc came out and feel all three of you are at least going in the right direction for the community building aspect vs the DRL or race crowd and the learn to fly rioters every group has their place.
Just bought some old fatsharks, stopped flying like 3 years ago, and vrx prices trippled its insane
I like to compare this "issue" a bit to Speed cubing (solving Rubiks Cube fast). Everyone and their mother knows what a Rubik's cube is, and everyone can imagine other people solving it. It is a niche, but I recon a larger niche than FPV. It is easier to get into, there are hundreds of tutorials, cheap cubes and other equipment, and yet the community stayed relatively small for the most part. They also had documentaries and what not, but it never blew up to a wider audience. Some hobbies are just a niche, and so is FPV.
#1 reason is that people doesnt know that FPV hobby exist! (in my experience) #2 is for sure complexity of it
Honestly, I wish there were more people that were not afraid to go out and fly in my town. I fly alone 99.9% of the time.
lol. Except for my visual observer that is. It’s like having a backpack buddy. Haha. They enjoy watching, but they don’t wanna put in the time to learn just yet.
Jesus is my visual observer🌞
@ amen
Nice Video Dude!
Earth Dreams
I have seen more groups break up recently than anything which then equates to people just giving up & quitting. I think the real problem is, we don't see each other as fellow pilots anymore because we have brought politics into it now. FPV should just be about that, flying. If you fly & I fly there is our commonality, period. And the not so friendly competition, what happened to just flying & challenging each other to do bettter. I don't know but it's been rough the past few years. Oh & by the way, sweet fucken power loop, holy hell my dude!! Nailed it! 🤙😁❤️
FPV is Not a Crime
Culture. It's pretty regional I find. I have flown in a few dozen countries.
Where I'm currently at, my neighbors come out and watch me rip up the neighborhood. Especially when they hear the noise of me trippy spinning the street light poles, that usually gets all the kids outside too.
I have already prevented a few petty thefts by scaring people away. And have full speed pegged two people in the head ,in this neighborhood, that were doing break ins. One left a decent puddle behind. So I'm considered block watch, with evidence video. And entertainment.
This neighborhood is government, administrative, and some higher level military. For context. Overall neutral I would say.
Find the niche I guess.
Also that bridge power loop was clean AF!
I like the 1.89:1 aspect ratio because it's different. Oh and 24 fps, too! Yay!
07:08 I am right there with you when people fly around my camera when filming. lol
🔥🔥 Great Advice!
You want a great FPV documentary.... watch BotGrinder's "28 Grams : Whoop the Planet". That's what sold me!
Mini/micro whoops are the gateway drug. We need to get the consumer experience streamlined which is happening with the RTF kits. The snow ball is still rolling.
Be careful what you wish for.
The weaponization of FPV drones now scares people. I am a recently retired soldier who picked up the hobby after learning about drone warfare. My defensive mind is always thinking about countermeasures, and the only way to do that is to understand the actual issue. People are scared of privacy rights when their privacy is always breached by the government anyway. It's a hidden social issue that will always be one of fear as more and more weaponization of drones come to light.
Cool idea, fully support this. I'm still flying solo here in Colorado. Would love to meet some folks around the Boulder/Denver area, or beyond.
There’s a lot of people who FPV out there.
I feel another area to consider is maybe there is a lot of people still flying but just not posting on social media cause they don't want to take the risks. Me personally no i need to get my ass back out there again. Still will be rocking frsky and analog though money to tight
You're smart.
most people make commercials not too many people go on adventures....thats why i like fpv vegan he travels flys and i get to see new york ....great insight love this style of content you are doing ....video essay ..?
First off I like the approach of how you are taking this on.
Too me I got in the hobby while analog was still a thing. People wanted to tune in on the same channel and watch each other fly.
I kind of see it as playing halo with 4 friends doing couch co-op games.
I gues skating has the same feeling. Doing tricks one by one. Seeing friends skate and sharing the expierence together.
Flying fpv does not need to be expensive. You can fly cheap analog aliexpress/banggood.
Quads budget bashers. No need for gopros when you are flying together and having that same expierence.
I don't nessecarely need more people in thrle hobby. Just that pilots who are in the hobby meet each other the way they did before like you showed in the vid with the stadium. Not sure if anyone ever got big fines or not. The world population increased and its just denser. People are offender easier because they think you are spying on them.
If you make the goal. you gotta have an interview of the early guys like Charpu and Metaldanny!
Well said
We need Anthony Panza like content but with FPV
I like that it’s niche.. We dont want a ton of randos up in the spot
the cky clip sold me "its a 96'"
me have add
Good talk
Good show!
Honestly so insane that a city would go to the teouble of double stacking containers like that. What a waste of time.
I have so much footage no one will ever see which is sad but it sounds like the goal is to not share just cool flights but also the idiocrasy in-between.
The Underground Syndicate 🇺🇸🤘😎🤘🇺🇸
Lol FPV logic be like, I can't fly at this bando because I won't be able to recover my drone, so I'll go powerloop this bridge over a river where I've already lost 3
People not being involved with their Gov't. The People run our Gov't not the other way.
Regarding the feeling of immersion, in the FPV vids - the FAA has made it all illegal - even in your own backyard, even flying a tiny. So - if anyone is still having fun, flying FPV in interesting places, where it's nothing but immersion - no public vids. The FAA killed it. You'd have to be in Canada, where you can fly anything sub250g FPV and BVLOS all by yourself. They don't regulate sub250g up there. And, you can make money, or publish your vids - when they're sub250g - up in Canada. But we got an insanely restrictive FAA - even the tiny - cannot be flown outside FPV, or BVLOS - even under the trees, on your own property. If you do it, and publish your vids - you are essentially, providing public proof that you've broken the law. Unless you are up in Canada, flying sub250g.
Nobody gets prosecuted for it until they take it to PhillyDroneLife level, though.
Film sounds rad! I think the biggest roadblock for most is $. Unless you know people with gear to try first, $1k gamble on new hobby is steep. Was for me anyway.
im getting a fpv for Christmas
Very nice approach to panhandle an epic fpv trip and possibly even go to europe.. 30k would make for plenty of content and good hotels along the way 😂😂😂
I would love to be a part of an FPV community, but I wonder If that kind of thing actually exists outside of the US (and does it exist in the US outside of a tiny click of youtubers and a few larger meetups per year?), it certainly doesn´t here In sweden, unless you like racing at you lokal model plane club
It is very invovled. Not only do you have the complexity of FPV itself.. but add filming and camera gear, making storys and videos, editing.. there is soooo much.
Ive been vlogging for a while, 4 years and one person has come to fly at my bando. And its probably one of the best bandos in the history of FPV in the south. Roll up. Show me the way of the edit. Thats where a lot of us lack. We spend all this time getting good at FPV then we end up sucking at cinematography. I be trying tho..
Lots of valid points. The culture is what got me into. Just like when i was a straight edge hard core punk kid in the 90s, Street BMX and skateboard. The culture brought me in.. expression followed after.
I love your videos. Like a self interview. I agree with the need for content, in all realism it's another version of RC and should be treated the same. Black and white and simple. Stay within 100 ft altitude of any object. Flesh has the right of way. And stay away from airports and infrastructure. Done
Money and the skills involved to build amd tune a quad to fly halfway decent is biggest factors scaring off newcomers...I mean a crap starter kit is like 800 bucks...unless u get a whoop and it's not the same
I have some mixed feelings about your message. For starters, we have the MultiGP documentaries that show a lot of the racing culture, which are quite good..... Secondly, and more importantly, we have a few people such as MAIONHIGH whom have left the community because she found it incredibly awful and toxic. Even the blog article she wrote about her negative experiences was proven accurate when fpv figures on social media attacked her after in exactly the style and rhetoric she talked about in the blog. They literally said it is her fault she got groped while flying and had a bad experience because she has attractive photos of herself online. If you want to grow the community and hobby overall we need to allow safe space for women to participate and condemn terrible behavior, and get more organized. I know everyone hates RID, and no one wants to comply. But jesus man, if we don't encourage compliance we are all shooting ourselves in the foot, making the "community" look like a bunch of fools. It may not be heavily enforced in 2024, but in the future things will be different. The community will dwindle and struggle if people get fined, get their gear confiscated, or worse. It's like promoting guns as a hobby but encouraging illegal practices. In the long run that's not even a hobby. It's something else entirely. It needs to be easy, safe, and welcoming--that's what you want to show. We are not trying to promote risk taking as a core feature of the hobby. The only risk should be crashing your quad and breaking it.
WHAT was that song in the beginning
FPV is the early adopters and hackers of the drone hobby. DJI is the commodification of the drone hobby. Me and a couple friends bring our FPV gear to the local makerspace once a month when they have an open house, and there is usually a good diverse group of people that have never seen drones like this, but i have a hard time even recommending it to any of them. In fact, I am more likely to recommend a DJI NEO to someone like that, than a tiny whoop. Just because even the tiny whoop scene is about early adoption, smallest, lightest, highest KV, punchiest battery. You gotta be a sadistic ADHD socially akward weirdo to want the burden of staying up til 3am soldering tiny wires just to break them again after 2 flights. I wouldn't wish this type of obligation upon any of my friends lol! But the ones that stick around, the ones that don't care that they have 10 non flying quads hanging on their wall and no ambition to get a girlfriend, these are the good ones, they become good friends and all the tech gear and combined knowledge i've gained in our little circle makes me feel kind of superhuman. I know what a lot of people don't, but I can't even explain to them what that is!
Dis gud, Heimsslit gud. Sorry no money, fpv is expensive in New Zealand and I have hungry quads to feed. x
"We need the CKY of FPV"
Challenge accepted.
Bro a few years back I mentioned on bardwell’s channel about fpv drones becoming weaponised,I was mocked by Mr B and most others big channels
Sorry to say this but I’m laughing my ass off now at everyone crying about fpv! 😂 the funniest is the dweebs who had no fun by sticking religiously to ridiculous rules and laws 😅
Fpv will survive brother 👍 it just won’t ever be mainstream 🤝
somebody pay this man already 😹
I’m getting interested in the FPV drones but the 6 minute flight time per battery is a drawback
Flowstate took way too long to get anywhere that anyone outside fpv might see it without it being put in front of them by someone in fpv.
Maybe I’m just a loner but “the community” is the last thing that drew me to the hobby. It’s really just about using freecam mode IRL to me 😅
I think you are taking yourself too seriously. All good things come to an end. Just do what you like doing while you are able to do it and forget about other people.
How about having people do their own vids, submit them to you, make it that way
FPV seeks you......not the other way around
the bridge looks hungry for more victims