A test summary from my experience: 1. You need to have killed Old Fart and False Believer before the quest is given by gale. (You don't need to kill snow cultist) 2. If the bell isn't there rejoin the game 3. When you talk to the bell, select side with believer and run through the dialogue. Then talk to him again and side with gale. This will trigger a cutscene between Gale and the False Believer (You need to get darkspin arts first before talking to oracle or he will simply say "be gone") 4. Go back to the iceberg and talk to gale (He will give u darkspin arts) 5. Go to the oracle under the bridge to get bell saint style
I DIDNT KNOW I WAS SUPPOSED TO ACTUALLY READ THROUGH THE DIALOGUE I JUST SKIP THROUGH EVERYTHING AND GAEL KEEPS KILLING ME AND NOW I CANT GET ANY OF THE 2 STYLES NOWW 😭😭😭😭😭
Assuming that you sided with the bell (since gale kills you), you can use the small little bell in your inventory to travel into the winter. You will then want to go to the cathedral (on the roof to enter) and kill the snow cultist with false believer (he spawns as soon as you enter as long as you have the "battle of faiths" quest). Now just talk to the bell to get the bell technique, and talk to the other npc near the cathedral to get darkspin arts technique
ok i found i way to get both if you side with gale you need to say you will side with the believer then let gale kill him, then if you go to this location you still get it
@@gusssssssssssss You can't enter the winter at all? you might be missing some core progression in the game, such as maybe never beating some quests in the desert or not beating other early game bosses. Can you tell me more about what you have progressed through so far in the game so I can get a better understanding for why it's not letting you go into the winter?
So if i side with the beliver i can only use the little bells to get to the winter and not gale anymore? And if i still side with him does the bell stay?
If you are reffering to the tiny bell in your hand that takes you to the winter, you keep that permanently. No matter what side you take, you will end up with the 2 techniques AND the bell if you talk to gale and the oracle after the cutscene with the False Believer
Wdym you can't get either technique? is something missing? You can still definetly get both, Pilgrammed is very against soft locking things, so don't worry, just explain what happened and I'll try my best to help you out. If you need help with a boss or something too, I can easily help out.
I have the clash of faiths quest, and i went to the bell location, but it's not there. It's telling me to locate where False Believers Bell went in the winter.
You might have to beat the snow cultist too? If you beat the cultist too, then just rejoin and see if he is in the corner. If he isn't there, then try beating the snow cultist again in case the game as not registered you as beating them.
Hmm you can try rejoining the game and seeing if he is there then? if not, try just doing some other bosses or quests because there might be some other bosses you might have to beat before you can see him standing there?
No no, thank you! because I was an OG player and fought all these bosses before doing this quest, I already had the bell sitting there. So thank you for letting me know that after you beat the bosses maybe you just need to rejoin. I appreciate the feedback!
You don't get the quest from beating old fart, you get it from talking to Gale. If you are saying Gale didn't give you the quest, then maybe you have to fight the False Believer too. After that, talk to Gale again and see if he gives you the Clash of Faiths quest.
Yes you can. From what I have seen and heard, whatever technique you get first, the oracle will give you the other. I am not 100% sure on this however, so I don't recommend tampering with it, but I also am pretty sure that the oracle just gives you whatever you don't have.
I believe you have to fight all the bosses before you are able to see the bell sitting there. If you go there and you already see it, great, but if not, try doing that first. (The reason I don't know for sure is because I already beat all those bosses before this update came out, so I am not 100% sure what order they are required to be completed in)
No you can get both. Talk to Gale, he will give you a technique. From what I have heard, if you already have the Bell Saint Style Technique, then talking to the Oracle will actually give you the Darkspin Arts Technique instead. In other words, it is always possible to get both techniques, just talk to Gale, then the Oracle, and you should get both.
I believe so? I think anytime that you side with the False Believer you get the bell, and I think you can side with him anyway after siding with Gale. If you aren't sure, just follow the video and it will guarantee you can get both because I am not 100% sure how it works if you do the steps out of order.
I believe so as well. From what I have heard the oracle will give you whatever you are missing. Plus, maybe if you go back and try to talk to the bell or gale again you can work something out with the dialogue option. HOWEVER, I have never tried this before, so do your research and do it at your own risk.
A test summary from my experience:
1. You need to have killed Old Fart and False Believer before the quest is given by gale. (You don't need to kill snow cultist)
2. If the bell isn't there rejoin the game
3. When you talk to the bell, select side with believer and run through the dialogue. Then talk to him again and side with gale. This will trigger a cutscene between Gale and the False Believer
(You need to get darkspin arts first before talking to oracle or he will simply say "be gone")
4. Go back to the iceberg and talk to gale (He will give u darkspin arts)
5. Go to the oracle under the bridge to get bell saint style
I DIDNT KNOW I WAS SUPPOSED TO ACTUALLY READ THROUGH THE DIALOGUE I JUST SKIP THROUGH EVERYTHING AND GAEL KEEPS KILLING ME AND NOW I CANT GET ANY OF THE 2 STYLES NOWW 😭😭😭😭😭
There’s a tiny bell in your inventory. Type in bell and you’ll find it
No you can get the styles still. Go talk to Gale after the dialogue. Then go back and talk to the Oracle after that, and those two will give you both.
Assuming that you sided with the bell (since gale kills you), you can use the small little bell in your inventory to travel into the winter. You will then want to go to the cathedral (on the roof to enter) and kill the snow cultist with false believer (he spawns as soon as you enter as long as you have the "battle of faiths" quest). Now just talk to the bell to get the bell technique, and talk to the other npc near the cathedral to get darkspin arts technique
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Thank you! This was helpful as I was struggling to do this
ok i found i way to get both if you side with gale
you need to say you will side with the believer then let gale kill him, then if you go to this location you still get it
I’m so sad. Bell used to be my main, so I chose bell. Biggest mistake of MY LIFE.
What do you mean? you can get both techniques if you didn't know
@Crabstorm wait do both sides give something? Does choosing bell's side give any items or is gales side the only needed choice
Why gale only says "the snow, and the frost, and the wind, is not the stuff of dreams, friend."
when is he saying this? after you talk to the False Believer? or just in general?
@@Crabstorm In general. I cant enter in the winter
@gusssssssssssss you have to kill old fart before
@@gusssssssssssss You can't enter the winter at all? you might be missing some core progression in the game, such as maybe never beating some quests in the desert or not beating other early game bosses. Can you tell me more about what you have progressed through so far in the game so I can get a better understanding for why it's not letting you go into the winter?
@@gusssssssssssss you have to kill old fart if you didnt do that yet
well now i have both of the arts but i dont have the bell
TYSM I CHOSE GALE FIRST NOW I HAVE BELL TOO
np
What if i defeated false believer BEFORE the update? will the bell still spawn?
So if i side with the beliver i can only use the little bells to get to the winter and not gale anymore? And if i still side with him does the bell stay?
No
I mean yes
If you are reffering to the tiny bell in your hand that takes you to the winter, you keep that permanently. No matter what side you take, you will end up with the 2 techniques AND the bell if you talk to gale and the oracle after the cutscene with the False Believer
bruh i betrayed gale and killed snow cultist and right after I killed her i died and now I can't even get any of the techniques 😭😭😭 what do I do?
There should be a tiny bell in your inv
Wdym you can't get either technique? is something missing? You can still definetly get both, Pilgrammed is very against soft locking things, so don't worry, just explain what happened and I'll try my best to help you out. If you need help with a boss or something too, I can easily help out.
I have the clash of faiths quest, and i went to the bell location, but it's not there. It's telling me to locate where False Believers Bell went in the winter.
Have you beaten the False Believer before? as in fighting him as a boss? and have you beat the snow cultist and the Old Fart before?
when i talked to orcale he keeps telling me to "Be gone"
Did you talk to him after getting the cutscene with the False Believer and Gale AND after talking to Gale and getting the darkspin technique?
@@CrabstormDo you have to get darkspin first?
@@Solin0000 I don't think so from what I have heard, but I mean you can get both so there isn't much of a reason to try to get one before the other
Why I don't see F.Believer at the corner? I've beaten F.B and O.F beforehand to take the quest
You might have to beat the snow cultist too? If you beat the cultist too, then just rejoin and see if he is in the corner. If he isn't there, then try beating the snow cultist again in case the game as not registered you as beating them.
why is the bell not there? i killed old fart, false believer and snow cultist.
Hmm you can try rejoining the game and seeing if he is there then? if not, try just doing some other bosses or quests because there might be some other bosses you might have to beat before you can see him standing there?
i dont see a bell even though ive beaten false believer and old fart, what do i do?
edit: ignore this comment i left and rejoined and it was there
No no, thank you! because I was an OG player and fought all these bosses before doing this quest, I already had the bell sitting there. So thank you for letting me know that after you beat the bosses maybe you just need to rejoin. I appreciate the feedback!
I beat old fart and got weird screen but got no quest?
You don't get the quest from beating old fart, you get it from talking to Gale. If you are saying Gale didn't give you the quest, then maybe you have to fight the False Believer too. After that, talk to Gale again and see if he gives you the Clash of Faiths quest.
Can i still get both styles if i took gales side first?
Yes you can. From what I have seen and heard, whatever technique you get first, the oracle will give you the other. I am not 100% sure on this however, so I don't recommend tampering with it, but I also am pretty sure that the oracle just gives you whatever you don't have.
@Crabstorm i got this info right after i got bell saint style, bell saint style is the most op thing i ever used
wheres the false believer now tho
no clue where he went after that
You can still fight him, the route to his arena is similar to the old one
@@Crabstorm u can still fight him if u glitch into his old arena also itll be cool if u show the cutscne when gale kills false believer
Literally the same path
Do I have to kill false believer first or do I have to find his bell then fight the snow cultist?
I believe you have to fight all the bosses before you are able to see the bell sitting there. If you go there and you already see it, great, but if not, try doing that first. (The reason I don't know for sure is because I already beat all those bosses before this update came out, so I am not 100% sure what order they are required to be completed in)
@ okay so there’s a option I just found out about, you can fight only the snow cultist if you go on the bells side
@ and then he spawns in and helps you during the fight, (you can get dark spin arts from the 1 arm guy) but gale will hate you
so if you side with gale you cant get the bell saint's chime
No you can get both. Talk to Gale, he will give you a technique. From what I have heard, if you already have the Bell Saint Style Technique, then talking to the Oracle will actually give you the Darkspin Arts Technique instead. In other words, it is always possible to get both techniques, just talk to Gale, then the Oracle, and you should get both.
@Crabstorm i got the bell saints chime after talking with oracle and rejoining
@@castipro oh cool, glad that worked out for you
how do you kill false believer now, I did already killed old fart but I didn't killed false believer yet :/
hes in the same place hes just harder now
There are some other videos online on the path of how to get to the False Believer. If you'd like I can make a video on that too though.
Well looks like I picked gale
You can get both techniques and the small bell regardless of who you pick
Can you get the little bell after siding with gale?
I believe so? I think anytime that you side with the False Believer you get the bell, and I think you can side with him anyway after siding with Gale. If you aren't sure, just follow the video and it will guarantee you can get both because I am not 100% sure how it works if you do the steps out of order.
Orathe is telling me "be gone" what am I supposed to do bro💀
if by orathe you mean gale, you probably have a little bell in your inventory that teleports you to the winter if you are in the mountains
Nah the guy underthe bridge be telling me be gone
Same issue, here.
WE CANT GET NEITHER OF THE 2 STYLESS NOW 😭😭😭
i got the same problem bro😭😭
is it possible for me to get darkspin after I side with the bell or no?
I believe so as well. From what I have heard the oracle will give you whatever you are missing. Plus, maybe if you go back and try to talk to the bell or gale again you can work something out with the dialogue option. HOWEVER, I have never tried this before, so do your research and do it at your own risk.
@Crabstorm gale will murder me
the orical will gove it to you after some time, I just checked with him.