Is The Safe And Sound Protocol A Scam?!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2023
- This is exactly how the Safe and Sound Protocol works. If you want to learn how to recover from Long Covid, first you must understand the difference between regular music and the Safe and Sound Protocol. Start your journey toward healing your nervous system by watching the video now!
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Nailed it! That was a great way of explaining SSP to a layperson parent of a suffering teenager. Most often we are caught with a myriad of treatment strategies, not knowing what it does, how it works to improve or diminish our recovery path. We need more of these explanations to help our understanding of right strategies and not be misled with an onslaught of wrong treatments.
So glad it was helpful!
Thank you.
More than welcome! 🤗
I’m currently on the SSP Core: Original under a therapist and I actually enjoy listening to the music. I find myself being overjoyed at times. I’m about to listen to another 30 minutes. It sounds like modified pop music but makes it sound more old timey radio like. I’m currently at the 4 hour mark. I started Sunday or Monday this week. I haven’t had any side effects that I’m aware of.
That is incredibly fortunate!! Am so glad you are enjoying. Typically we don’t recommend listening that fast. Usually 3-5 mins at a time.
Thanks very much for your videos❣I find your delivery/style of educating very 'user friendly.' Do you know if this has been tried for ME/ Myalgicencephalomylitis (which has helped inform researchers on LongCovid b/c, tho it has been less publicized/also stigmatized, is also likely a post-viral torment to so many for 30+ years; many peeps living w/it predicted/recognized early sx of LongCovid as having similar progress, etc)? Do you know if SSP has helped resolve the food allergies &/or Environmental/Chemical Intolerance part of the Long Haul (& MCS) syndromes? Thank s again!
If something is related to your ANS then SSP will help. me/CFS is definitely ANS. I believe MCAS is too. Mine is certainly much better than it used to be.
How does this program compare to "Therapeutic Listening"? And can you describe the research behind it? Who conducted -- when -- how, etc. Thank you very much.
I had not heard for Therapeutic Listening until today so I am not sure. Is there research about Therapeutic Listening improving nervous system function and HRV? Most of the research into the SSP has been done on Children with Autism. You can read more about it here: integratedlistening.com/products/ssp-safe-sound-protocol/
Hi dr. Sally, can i get more information about your programs please
All the info is on my website. All the links are in the description of every video.
are there any studies showing it's effectiveness? or is it all anecdotal evidence?
Randomized control trials take 5 years start to finish. LC hasn’t even been around 4 years yet. However I am working on a pilot study with the company who owns the software looking at efficacy. It can’t be randomized though because we don’t have the finances to fund that - we’re just using people who would be getting SSP anyway and who consent to data sharing. But there are trials of the SSP in other conditions. Initially they tested it with autism, but I think there are a few others now. Take a look on pubmed!
How do we work with you specifically to coach us through the safe and sound protocol?
Unfortunately I’m taking a pause from individual coaching right now Julia but I’ll let you know if that changes!
if you do it slowly can you avoid the hardcore side effects? I find them scary
yes absolutely that's exactly the point! that's why I stress finding a practitioner who will titrate it to YOUR nervous system so that you don't have a horrible crash. and there's really no need to if it is done right...
Also, is this safe for children who exhibit extreme "fight or flight" syndrome?
It has been used extensively with children, this is where most of the research has been, I believe including infants. "Safe" depends 100% on the delivery. If the practitioner treating such a child let them listen alone for an hour I would imagine it would not be fun for the child, but if it is titrated to their nervous system, with co-regulation then yes that would be safe.
It is more than just being there when a child is listening. It is also about being able to gauge their nervous system state, going slow, and maybe only using calming music, if you go too fast it could cause challenges. There is an art to this modality.
@@dana-elainemiddleton9257 💯 I do talk about that whenever I mention the SSP and have several videos on how to find an appropriate practitioner
So its music that mimics the frequency of human voices. Why couldn't someone just listen to a podcast or something with human voices?
It’s frequency manipulated music. The manipulation and the algorithm is what makes the difference to the nervous system (and that’s why it’s copyrighted)
I'm currently working through SSP with a therapist. It is definitely a case of going slowly for me. 2 mins core a day is OK, but 3 is way too much and makes me dysregulated, anxious, talking fast etc. I got impatient with it but although it seems begnin, it isn't! Atm it isn't showing me the benefits but I'm on core one so a way to go.
@@jsmith7240it definitely is a very powerful intervention! And I you are noticing that difference between 2 and 3 mins it is definitely working for you! Hang in there
@@sallyriggs465 i'd like to follow up on the question. On the info page of SSP it is explained that the way the music's frequencies are modulated is to mimic the human voice. So, no very low bass no very high treble. This is how the effect on the nervous system is explained.
This is why I wonder the same as jglenbateman: Why would that be different from just listening to human voices, like on a podcast etc?
@@klara0kor So please do follow up on this with Stephen Porges, or Unyte ILS who are the company who own the software. I am not the definitive authority. But the SSP includes both instrumental and vocal music, so its not about the actual voice. Its about the frequency, but also the modulation. The modulation varies throughout the 5 hours in a way that goes in and out, in and out. And this is what is therapeutic. When you are listening to podcast (unless you have some weird modulator that you keep turning on and off) the voice is a fixed frequency.
Or to put it even more simply: if we could heal ourselves just from listening a podcast you wouldn't be watching my videos and writing me these questions...
What frequency are we talking about?
I don’t have that info sadly Nick - it’s a copyrighted algorithm…
@@sallyriggs465You can simply compute a spectrogram on the music.
My daughter has sensory processing disorder, and still doesnt talk. She is 3 years old, do you think it may work for her? How will i know if she is unconfortable if she doesnt talk?
So my area of expertise Juli is Long Covid and Nervous System dysregulation. I don’t really know much about sensory processing disorder so I wouldn’t really be able to say. I know a lot of folks who do work with kiddos use it but I couldn’t tell you best practices as that’s not my field. So sorry.
@@sallyriggs465 Thanks! Greetings from Argentina!
if a child becomes overstimulated while using this protocol, what are the symptoms and what is the recovery time to become stable again?
The SSP should be carefully titrated by a practitioner so that someone doesn’t become overstimulated. The symptoms could be anything and everything so impossible to predict (if a practitioner knows a client well they could predict together but I couldn’t say hypothetically for an unknown someone) and the recovery time would be a “how long is a piece of string?” Scenario…
@@sallyriggs465 Thank you for your reply. So recovery varies person to person. But in your experience, have you seen no recovery for an individual or the recovery took several months years?
@@nushratjahan2195the only people I have personally seen in my practice who did not respond to the SSP were people living in environments where they continued to experience other stressors on a daily basis that overrid their nervous system gains ie ongoing trauma.
Hi, the therapist recommended that my son (3.5 years old) listen to SSP core every day for 15 minutes for 20 days in a row at home on headphones. I have a lot of concerns, isn't it too fast? Isn't he too young for this? I've read about the terrible side effects, if he experiences them he won't even be able to explain them to me. I don't know what to do anymore
Does your son have Long Covid? That’s really where my expertise lies in terms of delivery of the SSP.
@@sallyriggs465 I'm not sure if he had. but if so, it was asymptomatic
What is the cost and what does it include?
How long is a piece of string? Thousands of providers all over the world and each use a different model… Unfortunately there is very little standardization
i see she never answered your question??? That doesn't surprise me. It costs 150 dollars, plus 75 dollars, which i think is paid on a regular basis? Its about listening to music/ And you have to have the special mobile phone, which i dont have!! I would have given it a try, but i didnt think it was for Covid???? I thought it was for PTSD ADAH etc.etc.
@@Rosina2727 I’m not sure has quoted you this price Rosina but there is no set price as I mention above. The SSP is available solely through practitioners who have taken the training and passed (ie become certified) and then also purchased a subscription from the company that owns the software. they may or may not also have a professional license in their discipline. Pricing depends very much on the fees the individual practitioner - psychologists and psychiatrists typically have higher fees because they also have more training for their professional degree and more experience before they are allowed to see patients alone. Fees also vary massively by country and by area within country depending on the local cost of living.
How can i find that app?
Which app is that Katrina?