@@taramaforhaikido7272 Oh my god, your so obsessed with this idea of debating the dragon. Stop it with this main character syndrome, your even willing to act like the game actually said "Debate and challenge." I love how you act like you would understand a dragon or that they would even give you the time of day, when the Zealot literally gets killed and then dismissed for thinking that exact same thing. You'd just waste it's time, or it may even feel insulted that you think you understand it, especially with your mortal life and little life experience. I think its a pretty common for people to meet their end in tales detailing dragons, that their folly or mistake was thinking that they understand these ancient beings. You'd end up just like the zealot dude, smashed, burned, or eaten. All because you want to stand on a pillar and ACT like a hero, instead of actually doing anything. Heck he even calls the Arisen foolish for trying to fight him, where would DEBATE get you? And like...the dragon clearly cares more about action than words. It only awakened after someone fought it. It wouldn't listen to you.
I never noticed how his eyes cleared when you first struck him. Maybe at first he's just a mindless killing machine, until he is harmed and selects an arisen.
It's upon challenging the dragon that Grigori awakens, awaiting that moment to find a new Arisen. Combat is not required for an Arisen to be chosen or get the dragon's attention, but in this instance it was.
Oo never thought about it, but that seems highly likely. That would make complete sense, with both the translations of his dialogue and seemingly more animalistic nature in the cutscenes before the arisen attacks.
The arisen is chosen as someone with the will and drive to live and survive bringing meaning to life. This it is when he attacks instead of fleeing, his heart shows strength and the arisen was identified. It’s not that Grigori chose him, but merely found him.
Ok, I just have to say, there's something really cool about a dragon who is intelligient, (Yes I know dragons usually are intelligient, especially in DND.) But one who actively and somewhat politely tells you to get stronger and challenge him/kill him. He doesn't try to stop you, he just says "Git Gud, I'll even make you immortal." Thats so badass.
According to lore he was some sort of military general or something like that. He despised weakness and cowardice. Other than that we don't much information
@@tracemacmillan9718 There are 2 endings involving the Gosbane, although one could be considered a 'game over'. Using Godsbane during the fight with Seneschal will kill you and turn you into the dragon, just like you would lose to him normally. Using the Godsbane after you become the Seneschal will break the cycle.
Man, I am so disappointed with DD2 when it comes to the dragon. DD Grigori had so much more character, much better animations and his fight was more interesting.
This is what I do. I would keep talking with the dragon and keep debating instead of attacking them. I'd make it work. I always do. I know their language. I know the points they try to make.
honestly just sounds like narcissism, and you'd most likely end up like the zealot, thinking you know the dragon, but in reality your just tediously rambling until he just steps on you.
He mostly likely would just eat you for trying to waste his time and find another with the will to fight. The dragon only gives you 3 options fights, sacrifice or run away.
@@TheLigon27 Literally, his whole deal is "Action" he wants to see action, not debate philosophy. His whole purpose is to find someone who has the will to live, which means to fight. Not talk. He literally only stopped fattacking the village AFTER you fight against him. His eyes were clouded, showing he was in a bestial state. He wouldn't listen to shit, and even when he is awakened, he'd just think you were full of shit. OP wasn't paying attention to the actual cutscenes and just has main character syndrome.
@@BrokenMessiah1 the game looks very much fine even today. Performance is more of a technology thing than visual. I don't think the game needs to be remade to fix that.
"Ah, you are what I have been seeking. One with will enough to harm me. I will take your heart, your little life. I am Grigori, Death's Incarnate, Arisen. Seek me if you wish your life returned."
Someone translated it as: "Ho, I have found a courageous one by these shores...and yet these waters are entirely fouled. How many struggle, protest, and fall? My name is Grigori. This is your initiation, my cruel gift of eternal life."
the animations for this dragon looks a lot better then dragon dogma 2, he feels more alive and they give him extra animations that really sell his character
It's his role in the cycle, to terrorize the world, giving the arisen a reason to kill him. He isn't evil, he's just part of the system, playing his part
Since it's a cycle, he probably wasn't in full control of himself, only playing his required part until a future Arisen challenges him. I'm basing it on his cloudy eyes that only clear after you attack him. Or you know the previous player could just have been an asshole
A tiny detail I never noticed before. At the very beginning, your first quest marker doesn't say kill the dragon. It says challenge the dragon
Yeah I noticed that
Yes. Exactly. "Debate and challenge". It's all about what the dragon isn't telling the player.
Limited game mechanics though.
@@taramaforhaikido7272 limited why?
@@taramaforhaikido7272 Oh my god, your so obsessed with this idea of debating the dragon. Stop it with this main character syndrome, your even willing to act like the game actually said "Debate and challenge."
I love how you act like you would understand a dragon or that they would even give you the time of day, when the Zealot literally gets killed and then dismissed for thinking that exact same thing. You'd just waste it's time, or it may even feel insulted that you think you understand it, especially with your mortal life and little life experience.
I think its a pretty common for people to meet their end in tales detailing dragons, that their folly or mistake was thinking that they understand these ancient beings.
You'd end up just like the zealot dude, smashed, burned, or eaten. All because you want to stand on a pillar and ACT like a hero, instead of actually doing anything.
Heck he even calls the Arisen foolish for trying to fight him, where would DEBATE get you?
And like...the dragon clearly cares more about action than words. It only awakened after someone fought it. It wouldn't listen to you.
I never noticed how his eyes cleared when you first struck him. Maybe at first he's just a mindless killing machine, until he is harmed and selects an arisen.
It's upon challenging the dragon that Grigori awakens, awaiting that moment to find a new Arisen. Combat is not required for an Arisen to be chosen or get the dragon's attention, but in this instance it was.
Oo never thought about it, but that seems highly likely. That would make complete sense, with both the translations of his dialogue and seemingly more animalistic nature in the cutscenes before the arisen attacks.
The arisen is chosen as someone with the will and drive to live and survive bringing meaning to life. This it is when he attacks instead of fleeing, his heart shows strength and the arisen was identified. It’s not that Grigori chose him, but merely found him.
Grigori was once an arisen that failed to beat a saneschel.
That's why I wouldn't try to physically attack them. Ideals though? They will listen.
"The rantings of an upjumped zealot make for tedious listening." - A verbose way of saying he was annoying as hell, but I still agree.
more like “STFU zealot , this between me and them, now fight me and end all this or get squashed cuz I’m not down with that weak shit” 😂
Kinda hilarous how this decade old 3Ddragon looks better than the Netflix series.
Well…
Grigori had no reason to put so much of that *quirky* tension in each encounter and yet he did it anyway.
he was such a dramatic
Ok, I just have to say, there's something really cool about a dragon who is intelligient, (Yes I know dragons usually are intelligient, especially in DND.) But one who actively and somewhat politely tells you to get stronger and challenge him/kill him. He doesn't try to stop you, he just says "Git Gud, I'll even make you immortal."
Thats so badass.
I’ve always wondered what sort of Arisen Grigori used to be
A very well-spoken one
According to lore he was some sort of military general or something like that. He despised weakness and cowardice. Other than that we don't much information
@@presence5383 Figures why he'd go after a little fishing hamlet first then damn haha
Grigori is strong, he probably refused to kill the Senaschal rather than got defeated. Probably he used the Godsbane on himself during the fight.
@presence5383 where is that stated?
"You or me? Death or live? Beyond"
SPOILET AHEAD
The dragon is actually the previous player that refused to take place as the world watcher from the previous player before him/her.
No, the dragon is the previous Arisen that failed to defeat the Seneschal.
@@TheFinaladventure Basically the same, using Godssbane will turn you into dragon
@@histhoryk2648using gods and breaks the cycle and marks the end of the endless ring
@@tracemacmillan9718 There are 2 endings involving the Gosbane, although one could be considered a 'game over'. Using Godsbane during the fight with Seneschal will kill you and turn you into the dragon, just like you would lose to him normally. Using the Godsbane after you become the Seneschal will break the cycle.
@@ThatDjinnActually would be amazing if we can play as a dragon 🔥😱😂 ah Capcom, missed a chance... 🤌🏻😩
David Lodge fucking kills it as Grigori.
Man, I am so disappointed with DD2 when it comes to the dragon. DD Grigori had so much more character, much better animations and his fight was more interesting.
Grigori - chad
DD2 dragon - chem
DD2 was less about dragon and more about breaking the cycle, fight was definitely shorter though without the chase/escape sequences
Compared to Grigori, DD2's dragon seems to be more depressed like "let's get this over with, yeah?" type thing
The dragon looks oddly feminine and elvish - cute and adorable, but dangerous at the same time.
I gotta admit he does look kinda cute lol
@@_Jose77 It's the ears, big floppy elf ears on a dragon.
It's pretty similar to the Welsh dragon.
A verry cute Derg 🥰
He doesn't look feminine at all
This is what I do. I would keep talking with the dragon and keep debating instead of attacking them.
I'd make it work. I always do. I know their language. I know the points they try to make.
defeating the Dragon with facts and logic
honestly just sounds like narcissism, and you'd most likely end up like the zealot, thinking you know the dragon, but in reality your just tediously rambling until he just steps on you.
He mostly likely would just eat you for trying to waste his time and find another with the will to fight. The dragon only gives you 3 options fights, sacrifice or run away.
@@TheLigon27 Literally, his whole deal is "Action" he wants to see action, not debate philosophy. His whole purpose is to find someone who has the will to live, which means to fight. Not talk.
He literally only stopped fattacking the village AFTER you fight against him.
His eyes were clouded, showing he was in a bestial state. He wouldn't listen to shit, and even when he is awakened, he'd just think you were full of shit.
OP wasn't paying attention to the actual cutscenes and just has main character syndrome.
4:55: Emperor Palpatine, is that you!?
Yes, but unfortunately has less screentime.
This one scene was more epic than the entirety of Dragons Dogma 2 main story combined.
ドラゴンズドグマのドラゴンは西洋の伝承や神話のドラゴンに匹敵する或いはそれにもまさる圧倒感が有って大好き。
I need a remake of this game. Just finished dragons dogma 2 and it was great!
Does it really need one?
@@peppermillers8361 atleast on console absolutely, its 30fps and kinda fugly.
@@BrokenMessiah1 the game looks very much fine even today. Performance is more of a technology thing than visual. I don't think the game needs to be remade to fix that.
I always wondered what the hell the dragon says in the beginning, when he takes the arisens heart
"my heart now, lmao git bodied" my latin isn't the best but that seems close
"Ah, you are what I have been seeking. One with will enough to harm me. I will take your heart, your little life. I am Grigori, Death's Incarnate, Arisen. Seek me if you wish your life returned."
Someone translated it as:
"Ho, I have found a courageous one by these shores...and yet these waters are entirely fouled. How many struggle, protest, and fall? My name is Grigori. This is your initiation, my cruel gift of eternal life."
@@stellasol5265 that seems most accurate and in line with how gregory talks
the animations for this dragon looks a lot better then dragon dogma 2, he feels more alive and they give him extra animations that really sell his character
Amazing gameplay keep up it
11:18 you made the right choice with that shameful harlot. 😎
😂
いつ見てもかっこいいね
03:50 what happened to the right wing?
im not sure what you mean but it looks like it is arched up slightly
Damn, is this B a cat? I swear she got like nine lives or somethin’
Grigori is sexy 😍
Why is emperor palpatine here
Daddy. ❤
Id the starting dragon is the previous player . Why js he attacking innocent people ?
It's his role in the cycle, to terrorize the world, giving the arisen a reason to kill him. He isn't evil, he's just part of the system, playing his part
Since it's a cycle, he probably wasn't in full control of himself, only playing his required part until a future Arisen challenges him. I'm basing it on his cloudy eyes that only clear after you attack him. Or you know the previous player could just have been an asshole
Faresti un full game
Yuichiro Voice actor for the new baki hanma season must be him!!!
i gust noticed there is no "J". Whats up with dat
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