Did You Know? Homecave Debuff and Protections
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- Did You Know? Homecave Debuff and Protections bring gameplay balance to the entering and exiting of your dinosaurs' homes. Here is some details on how it works! #pathoftitans
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I've only been hurt by the debuff. I have groups of two or three harass me and keep me in the debuff range while they take turns leaving it, then kill me. I've also gotten it because carcasses or mainly bushes are in the range and I eat, then I get the debuff and get jumped by someone waiting just outside. I've never had it help me avoid HC campers.
Just force your way out of the debuff range
@@Eeeeeee-sh2znbig Dino’s will body block you so you can’t get out of an area
Yeah the idea is good but their execution isn’t great. The debuff could definitely use a rework.
@@Eeeeeee-sh2zn Because you're slowed and take extra damage, you're dead before you can.
@fuzzman02 I think that if you're in range for a certain amount of time you can't attack or be attacked. And when you step put of range, you have a timer (I say the minuet works) that you have to stay out of the zone to attack. Basically extending the immunity what not, but giving it a delay so people can't immediately run in for immunity.
I also think that if someone kills you/you kill them, there should be a 30 min period neither of you can hurt the other. Mainly because I've had some many times I win a fight on a heavy Dino and they run back, or a friend was them back, and they get me before I can barely start healing. (Mainly apex v apex and similar)
The Blue Home Cave buff should also make it so sprinting does not use stamina, while the buff is active, so you can get away from campers a bit easier.
Omg that’s genius, Alderon, hire this human.
The Homecave debuff as it stands right now is very annoying. I've gotten it while just doing quests before and had to walk quite a ways with reduced speed just to get it off of me. I luckily haven't died because of it yet, but I've watched homecave campers who abuse this feature to kill others. The debuff range needs to be much smaller and effect campers more than people who are just going about their buisness.
Agreed, I have gotten it many times just because I was questing within the area
I’ve gotten the debuff too many times with my baby sarco while trying to get TO a home cave xD Lil guy is just slow
sarco stamina is really bad
its kinda sad am ngl
Yup, it's an extra penalty to dinos that are already slow and there's no caves with access directly from water.
The lead game dev is basically a malicious idiot.
To that I will say you should just stick to the water caves. It sucks to have to go out of your way if you are say across the map but sarco loses stam way too quickly on land so you debateably are better off just going to the water caves.
The home cave debuff does more harm than good. There’s already an invincibility period when you leave homecave. Why does there have to be a debuff too?
What about when you are trying to get into the homecave and someone attacks you making you unable to go into your homecave?
They will have the debuff and can kill them or run away
I agree here, far too many times I've seen groups camping homecaves - if I can break through their blockade I should be able to reach homecave... not to mention the debuff doesn't seem to work properly, can't count how many times I get the debuff right when I get close, even when doing the starter quest to reach hc. I think this systems needs some major work. People camping hc shouldn't be able to tag you to keep you from entering. I'm more of a hardcore player, I like consequences and punishment, but if you're gonna have a safe zone like hc, then do it right. This current system would be like not being able to dock in EVE just because someone shot at you... the only people that should be blocked from entering are the aggressors, or just get rid of hc...
@@phaedrus12134 but people also shouldn't be able to escape any combat in hc like before. This system works pretty well against little buggers that just run straight to hc when you trying to fight them (and I mean fair fight, not camping). So imo earlier version with no combat debuff is worse that this, but I have no idea how they could make it better, although I agree it need to be somehow improved.
Someone came out of hc as I was going in as soon as I hit enter they hit me so I loaded into the hc then right back out and got killed by them.
@@Eeeeeee-sh2zn Only if they remain in the area... it's not an instant debuff.
Now I can’t live in hunters thicket because the hc debuff covers the entire area
That’s why I play community servers where honecaves are disabled
No it doesn't, like not at all
You can hangout close to the lake without receiving the debuff.
@@ezrathing hunters thicket is pretty freaking big, most of the POI is safe from the debuff
Design is just.. 💯
Fkin reduce the homecave debuff range, i got killed as a spino which is rly slow on land and got hit by the debuff which made it easy for them to kill me
This design is very nice, but I hope there are some optimizations.
For example, the player will be warned before getting the debuff instead of being punished directly. Secondly, for some homecaves on the top of the mountain, for Apex dinosaurs with thick skins, they will take longer to walk up, and it is easy to get punishment. Make the gaming experience worse.
Finally, my suggestion is to replace debuff with protection buff. Players who enter this area for a period of time will not be able to attack or be attacked, and will greatly reduce the efficiency of gaining experience and speed up the loss of food and water. And After leaving this area, this protective buff will disappear, or it will disappear after staying in this area for more than 1 minute. Because the original debuff design concept is to protect players from being attacked in this area and punish some players for wandering in this area leave.
Thank you Path of Titans team for giving us explainations for your game! I didn't know about that until I was told, but I love that you're doing these!
Can get very annoying when questing around the cave, especially when using defence dinos with thick scales e.g. Barsboldia
More often than not the debuff gets me killed when I am attempting to find the entrance or am on a large slow dino and the radius it effects is far too large
this home cave debuff is very annoying for baby Dinos trying to grow in hunters thicket also when are u gonna release the QUETZ
Quetzalcoatlus isn’t coming to Path of Titans but it’s larger cousin Hatzegopteryx is the one that coming. Also there is no release date yet so you just have to wait.
Currently there is a Quetzalcoatlus mod coming too, maybe it’s available now but I play on Mobile it won’t show up for me.
@@kearsargeyt8848 that's what I meant? 🤔
Well the buff is Very usefull but the debuff... It's Just bad many peaple die becouse of that debuff
Will y’all just approve the quetz already
Lmao i agree with this
stop spreading misinformation
@@docjay_animations3917 what
@@docjay_animations3917 🤓🤓
@@docjay_animations3917 Bro it’s true, I will come out as soon as pot approves it
Good I died because falldamage, in was stuck at white cliffs were I thought I would survive the fall thank you
Until you have a pack of 5 following you until your debuff runs out. That very same system will become your tomb this happened to me for about 3 or 4 days straight *official servers* in a not very populated part of the map
The Debuff sucks when you are trying to stealth away and have to frequently stop to not give yourself away. Just last night it took me over 10 minutes to get away from the home cave in Hunters Thicket north into Snake Gully. Two Megs and a Hatz patrolling the whole time. My poor baby Stego.
I experienced this my first time playing the game, and i had no idea why it happened...
Thanks for the information!
Plz make so the debuff isn’t a thing for bb/adol only gets them killed
It’s a very bad mechanic that needs to be changed. Especially when you spawn juvies on top of it where there’s quest items that are in the range of the debuff.
im actually really grateful for this debuff. before the home cave debuff you’d legit have like 4 eo standing outside the cave ready to instantly kill any poor juvie that tries to leave
I started playing yesterday and...bless that one pro who protected me and taught me everything about the game
Good to know now I will stay far from home caves with my argent 😂
There should just be a mouse over the buff/debuff to pull up a quick description of what the buff/debuff does 😊
Im literally too slow as a sarco to leave before the debuff gets me
Sucks when just trying to eat nearby and getting punished
YES I KNOW AND I HATE IT
All this debuff does is screw you over when you're trying to find a difficult to find one as a large and slow creature
While I understand the point of the debuff, I've gotten quite nervous due to the debuff coming on suddenly and fearing someone may come by and take me down. This has yet to happen to me, but just the thought of it happening makes Home Caves seem more of a hassle at times. I know the debuff is to deter HC campers, but wouldn't it have been much easier to simply have a condition to where, if there are people outside the Home Cave and don't seem to go away, have the option to come out from another Home Cave entrance? To make this be balanced and not like a Waystone, simply have a timer as you do with the debuff, only instead of debuffing, the person in the HC gets the option to warp to a HC entrance that is clear of players.
I feel this solution would be somewhat better than what we have now, as I feel the debuff really punishes dinosaurs that are already slow and may just be trying to reach the HC to log out safely.
man i love pot
man as a new player I was so scared when this would pop, i thought it was an enemy and I needed to hide but too slow to do so. Especially if i kept around instead of going further away.
Just happened to me once when I was playing Path of Titans
So thats why me and my friend got destroyed by a suchomimus 😂
Its the only from standing even while traveling if u take to long is will debuff you and your in for a rude awakening if something hunts
I gotta ask. How would Albertosaurus work in the game if ever added?
Bad
We should get a debuff when you hit someone who is near a home cave to
i just died from a triceratops because of the debuff i didn't know it was a thing .
Oh that's what that is! I was so confused when i got that
That homecave debuff really needs some adjustments cause literally just walking to the homecave on my slower dinos gets me it half the time -_-
Did you know that you still receive knockback effects even with the HC protection? This makes it possible for players with knockback abilities to keep you from safely leaving the HC area so they can kill you once the protection wears off AND possibly keep you from getting back into the HC 😉
Sucks to get this when your walking as a slow herb to get into your homecave.
Nice to see that 👍 ❤😎🦖
This is actually a good idea xD if u can actually tell where the cave is i always seem to have to do so much mtn climbing to get to some homecaves lol i also had a eo trike group that stayed away from home cave enough to not get debuff and wouldnt let anything pass to home cave
Its so good to get a debuff when i quest 💀
ohhhh so THATS what it does
I got stuck in the caves on the island in the big lake on Glndwa and almost died of thirst 😭
They have to do something about it. Also the slow debuff you receive if you log in. Because if you login in the open you are done with this debuff if a rex nearby
There needs to be an invincibility buff and remove the debuff. There's zero point to it if the dinos coming out of HC can't take damage in the first place. All the debuff does it get players killed that aren't even HC camping, just happen to be close enough to get it
Unless you have 3 or 4 of them
Camping outside the hc waiting to jack you up.
It seems to me it takes effect much sooner than "a few minutes." Sometimes as soon as I log in and leave, I get that dumb debuff.
Can We See More Moded Map Showcases * Just Curios *
Enough pyc at and near a cliff can a will head but you off a cliff if close enough to one like young Grove. I got butted off by 4 once with home cave protect. Not a bug and won't be fixed 😊🐛
How about DONT HAVE QUESTS OR QUEST ITEMS IN THE AREA so i dont have to creep out of the 5000 foot radius at 3 mph because i wanted a damn pinecone. Also quest update when.
Funny how I seem to be trapped in a home cave area bc of campers and I seem to only get the debuff yet they still move freely and alternate turns going in and out of the radius. This game favors massive mix packing way to much all the way down from the growth and combat and debuffs
I was literally just passing by it not even close to it and I got it lol one of these times I'm gonna get killed because of it 😂
Hello alderon, I reported a bug which is that all subs for baby spino can’t complete the tutorial cave, it is the delivering shrooms part, my user is darkestdark
Never heard of this game. I wanna play it now
it can be so much fun! note: It CAN be. Choose servers wisely. if you wanna have more fun you may wanna do community servers and not play on officials (takes WAYYY longer to grow dinosaurs and get in-game currency. also no rules so you can just get killed at any time by any thing)
You guys are doing great😁 every update is making this game better and better keep it up devs crazy how small you guys are but keeping up with games with a much higher budget 👍 but please give us some new quests it would be much appreciated by everyone ❤️ much love dinos 🦖
Bruh, keeping up? The game isn't even close to being out. I've played over two years and the game still doesn't have AI dinosaurs, or other game modes for multiplayer.
a lot of folks dont know this and its free food
The debuff shouldn't decrease move speed. I got it by eating and drinking to top up before exploring and it took SO LONG to get out of range i almost just logged out on the spot. The debuff increased the amount of time i was around the home cave. Not conducive to intended purpose
This is why I play semi-realism. Makes the game way more fun to play.
They should make this debuff only apply to adult campers and maybe not juvis and give adolescents a longer time arlund hc before they get debuffed. Juvies and early adols don’t really have ane defense agains adults kosing and it sucks 😂
Buff allosaurus
An Idea for devs:
Add passive growth when sleeping,
that means the stamina system has to be modified,
replace stamina regen by crouching/sitting
instead of sleeping
this means sleeping is beneficial and crucial at different times of the day/night depending on the creature you are playing as with factors being if it's a nocturnal, predator/prey and carnivore/herbivore and if it hibernates for example.
- make passive growth only work when your character's tiredness bar is full
so that when the bar is low, sleeping is only a QoL/rp feature.
This is optional but you could even make it so you have a well rested buff status that overrides with the passive growth when sleeping in specific areas such as in home caves, burrows, under tree etc
Shit idea, no thanks.
Once again I hate this cuz I’ve been in the cave and still got the debuff
I still dont get it why it gives you a movement debuff if u have to leave...
Please get rid of quest items near the home caves so we don't get the debuff while questing
Yeah but plz fix the range in hunters thicket it’s gotten me killed so many times just because I’m in HT
The keyword is "standing."
This debuff and buff has been abused so many times that at this point. They should make it to where the game doesn’t give players these effects. Based on if a certain player has spam exited and entered a home cave
FIX HOMECAVE DEBUFF AT LBM
I figured out a bug to kill people with Homecave Invincibility. I reported the bug and they claimed it wasn’t a bug so now I constantly kill people with my Rex that come out of the cave😂.
Cap.
@@JustAnObody812 I’d say how, but I don’t wanna get my bug stolen. Also, I figured out a way to get rid of your invincibility. That way you can attack someone coming up to the cave after you just came out.
@@DiegoAlvarez-tx5hh least toxic rex player
@@SnaiviCueloFikisimo LMAO
Instead when we first spawn in can we not have that slow log in buff but instead have a log in protection? We can't attack players and the players can't attack us until our buff is gone
Tbh had no clue 😂
Debuff never actually helps people, usually groups will have a player trap you so you both get the debuff and then their friends run in and get an easy kill
planning to get path of titans on my xbox any tips ;D
I’ve gotten the Debuff on modded servers and I have to have admins Rip my Dino’s apart because it won’t come off till my Dino’s demise.
Cool
And nothing is mentioned here about the radius encompassing nearly entire POIs sometimes, or the fact that while under home cave protection, your stats are locked and cannot regenerate health or stamina at all.
You went into the home cave with low stamina while escaping predators? Well too bad! They can kill you when you come out because you're stuck with the stamina that you went in with.
Had a friend get harassed by a bunch of people by keeping him near the cave wasn't very cool I feel the range that this debuff starts to take effect needs to be nerfed
That’s wrong. If you are even walking within a certain distance of a home cave you will get that debuff as well. It has nothing to do with you not moving while within that distance. I’ve actually gotten that debuff while heading towards the cave while walking because I was trying to preserve my Stam due to other players trying to hunt me.
the idea is good but the implementation is not. far too often you get the debuff when you're questing nearby. or every time I drink water with my spino in white cliff and want to go back into the sea.. I had that too with a juvi after logging in and leaving an hc. you're really lost when a dino comes by... you can't even run away.
Yes it even appears when u do a quest 30m above it 🙄
I was a eo i got a debuff then 2 pachys came and killed me
Path of titans sure look amazing and fun but we don't use dollar as currency in my country so its expensive to me
I wanna play😮😪😭😭😭😭😭
this debuff is bad when you are doing quest around home cave area
Approve the quetzal mod or release hatze we want a new bird so pick one
The debuf should be removed tbh, most creatures I play are to slow for me to make way to the entrance once I've finally found it b4 getting the debuff, then when I come out after logging on I have to crawl away from hc if I don't get killed before getting away
I got killed by it alot i was at glc pond by the hc and i was a allo fighting a sub eo' 2 raptors and a sty i killed the eo and sty i was low so i hid in the water so the raptors could not get me i killed them both then swapped servers got out of the pond got stam then a anky came died bc of it
I'm on mobile idk how to unlock other dino
i did know this and its the biggest piece of BULL. the range is way too big, and people rarely ever use homecaves from my experience of playing 2 or more years. just keep the buff, the debuff is stupid because if your trying to escape and happen to run past a homecave then you will be doomed to death by the games mechanics, not the enemy player wich is ridiculous. and also some quests are super close to homecaves, in sertain areas u are forces to get close to the homecave and then suddenly while peacefully questing you get a debuff and then you get jumped by nearby carnivores or angry herbs
These buffs need to be changed! It super annoying and it isn't fair... For example 1minute isn't enough for a buff and it can back fire on those who are leaving and they have a slow dinosaur and get a punish debuff for just trying to leave still, I would do 2 minutes at least...
Second the raduis for the home cave is too big, needs to be smaller, debuff effect causes unnecessary problems for a player... for just entering a bit close to the home cave, while some have this problem for just trying to leave... Some dinosaurs are slower then others after all, and a fix would help a lot especially if those who have to quest near by and they get effect by this... and get a chance to get attacked by other players... this is a good way for players get harassed this way with the radius for the home cave being big, please fix these!
I hate this debuf so much i got it very often cause i didnt kne a home cave was nearby 😑
I was fighting megs as my stego and got hit with this debuff because they had blocked off my path the other direction, this debuff CANT REDUCE SPEED, keep the combat aspects but stop removing the speed when in range, it only hurts players who end up in the area by chance, did you know that an eo walking to the young grove hc from the left side will get the debuff unless it runs there? Its stupid, decrease the range, ir remove the speed penalty
Does rhamphy really need a HC debuff? It's useless in pvp anyway and dinos with the HC buff are protected anyway.
The debuff needs to go its worthless. No one camps since there is spawn protection and slower dinos get the debuff while trying to just simply get to the cave. Ways to solve problem is
A. just remove it
B. Show area of affect on minimap
C. Show timer till effects happen
D. Decrease area of effect
E. Have Increase damage taken but don't nerf speed too
Yeah, and it's gotten me killed more times than I have fingers bucko. Also, WHY IS MEG'S TAIL ATTACK GONE??? DO YOU NOT KNOW WHAT LARGE LIZARDS LIKE TO DO FOR DEFENSE??? Other than that, meg is good so far, still needs to be able to climb rocks and trees.
Also killed lbm