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- Between the years 950 AD to 1290 AD, on the Northern border of South Africa, traversing the conference of the Shashi - Limpopo Valley, which today divides Botswana, Zimbabwe and South Africa, existed an ancient African Kingdom, called Mapungubwe. From the Iron Age to present day this unique one-hour film explores the history and tells the story of this remarkable city.
Governed from an impenetrable hilltop, Mapungubwe became the business centre for all of Africa’s trade which, by this period, had become well integrated into the world economy and thrived on trade with the East Indian Trade Route attracting traders from as far afield as Persia, Arabia, India and China.
Mapungubwe was inhabited by successive groups of people for this 300 year period until it was mysteriously evacuated. No one knows for sure why, but in 1290 Mapungubwes’ inhabitants left taking with them the memories and stories of Mapungubwes' early history. In this film archaeologists and historians take us on a journey through a thousand years of untold African history revealing the controversial discovery of this ancient site and its golden artifacts.
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@Chuma Safari Kamanga boss is up raul and wind love is key 6
@@locksleygottshalk2167 and
Do one on the Benin Wall. A wall that is 4x greater and bigger than the Great Wall of China. It was created in ancient Benin City Nigeria.
@@locksleygottshalk2167 is a l2l42ll in a wide 3 and
I'm Xhosa who's also a Bantu. I have listened to one of the greatest philosophers of our time Mr Credo Vusuzulu Mutwa. He explained how special Southern Africa is, because it is the beginning of the man-kind and civilization. I think these archeologists need to consult with the real people of the area and get the oral history documented.
Then you got white South Africans trying to be clever and saying they got here before us as if we don't know our history, they have even managed to confuse coloureds and made them believe that they all are Khoi-San's and that those people are not black
@@accountretired9479 exactly the lies & mis information that comes from them is very sickening
Mr.Credo Vusuzulu Matwa is greatly honored and he will never be forgotten 🙏 ❤
I have seen the interviews with Credo Mutwa and his sculptures he made of visitors from other worlds; it’s so amazing.
U think the colonizers are interested on telling the truth about u .they are here to destroy &steal & kill they have destroyed everything about us
As an Archaeology student, I spent some time with UP at Mapungubwe. It is the most magical and awesome place in Africa. What a privilege.
What did you find there? Are there full stone huts or only ruins? Artefacts? I wanna know
It’s no artifacts, those are gravesites! How carnal can you’ll be? Have some respect! ✊🏿✊🏾✊🏽
Looters
What was the DNA markers of the bone fragments found at the site, would be greatly appreciated?
So as an archaeologist why do you people hide the fact that it was built by the Shona people of Zimbabwe. Yes the same people who built Great Zimbabwe
It is remarkable that an entire continent of people can be viewed with and treated with so little respect. It is disgusting.
I am glad to see that contemporary archaeology has become much more scientific in its approach, and less destructive in its methods.
@Judy Snyder Do you think you're fooling anyone?
@@jamestcatcato7132 No. they honestly believe this
First Nation people (North America) had their burial site and other sites co-opted by places like the Smithsonian....their culture destroyed in many of them.
come visit us in sunny south africa and see for yourself jou ma se poes
@@jamestcatcato7132 lmao keep lying to self
what pains me is that the history of Mapungubwe is not taught in south african schools. i am a Venda person from Limpopo but i have never been there .....i shall go and visit my Ancestors at the Great Mapungubwe
We are betrayed by our very own leaders
it is taught we leant about Mapungubwe in social science when we were learning about ancient civilizations including Mali, Ghana, China and Mesopotamia.
My child in gr7 homeschooling is learning about Mapungubwe.
@@maiaallman4635 That's awesome. The Kingdom of Mali or The Kingdom of Kush are some other great African civilizations you may want teach for Homeschooling. The Kingdom of Aksum is another great one.
Think about it... " They won't teach us nor speak about it because then, they would have to explain their involvement in a lot of instances " 💯
I hate it when these so called intellectuals continue to disseminate false information. Mapungubwe means stones of the fish eagle. Mapungu meaning fish eagle and -bwe meaning stone. What they try to hide from everyone is the fact that the same people who built Mapungubwe also built Great Zimbabwe. Even the words themselves are closely similar
You are right they were the same people, there's too many similarities to ignore the connection.
False narrative all the time.
thank you. and the people are the Venda
It is well known that the karanga people started at mapangubwe and then moved to zimbabwe. Both slave capture and ivory trade centers
In Shona (spoken in Zimbabwe) Mapungubwe also means the same. The singular bird is Chapungu while plural is Mapungu. Bwe being stone. This even the name Zimbabwe (House of Stone- Zimba meaning large house). The Venda and the Karanga who occupied the great Zimbabwe are definitely one. It’s no coincidence that the Black Jews in SA (Balemba) are found mostly among the Venda and the Varemba are among the Karanga residing mostly in Mberengwa, a place in the province of Masvingo that’s home to the Karangas.
Its sad that our colonizers have to tell us about our own history...that's how much lost we are!!
Alloth of european, ancient world historie is also forgotten
Yeah but a lot of them are archaeologists too that are of your people look at what goes on in Egypt it's pretty interesting
You're right a lot of it needs to be looked back at
It's would be .. how lost*
There are African historians to take your history RELIABLY from like Sankofa and Hometeam History on TH-cam.
So much hidden history from us and our kids its up too us too learn and teach our kids of our rich past👍😔
Mapungubwe and Great Zimbabwe are part of the Grade 6 history curriculum in South Africa.
There is no time to relive the past. We must focus on moving forward and catching up with the rest of the world while ensuring that the needs of our societies are fulfilled.
Look up Tariq Radio and Ashra Kwesi
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I find it very odd that a group of people would leave their continent go into another continent and then tell the people who have been there from the beginning that they had nothing to do with the civilizations within it🤦🏾♀️.Denial is a disease.
Well while people in other continents were building great powerful empires Africans were still living tribal live styles
@@Tahoe756 which was.very comfortable until your grandfather invaded with a gun.
I tell you!! I don't even know if there's an actual word for that... Gets me every time. 🤷🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
@@bernadetblack2871 I’m sure getting eaten by lions, dying of disease and tribal wars was very comfortable
@@bernadetblack2871 Indeed.
The dance of ladies holding each others elbows is called Domba, I'm a very proud venda
When is University of Pretoria , returning our Gold?
Brah! And when are they burying all those remains they dug up and stored in dey private museums de
@@pholosomakgato8298 It is not Uhuru.
@@ignitethespark2892 Sengenzeni???
When will we find out the truth of Africa and our people!
If they are lucky the Mbantu entitlement will let them work in the mines.
So sad, and shocking. How such great ancestors can be dug up just like that, in the presence of their living children. 😢😢
It really is just disrespect.
Disgraceful behaviour. No good will come of such sacrilege. White greed for precious metal artefacts is fathomless. Here in U.K our ancient burial mounds were long ago defiled. If you or I dug up just one of these peoples old relatives looking for plunder, we would be jailed and publicly denounced as common grave-robbers.
the soil was not to bury them but to preserve their story...
THATS THE LAWS !! WHO MAKES THE LAWS FOR THOSE PLACES ? THE LOCALS DO !!
@@KernowekTim What an self loathing individual you are. White greed... how about we stop digging up history. Would that be fine with you?
I took Classical Studies in university. We took a course in archaeology. I never got a chance to do any field work, but I have a deep respect for the folks who do it. And I could cheerfully fling Gardiner and his pals off the edge of the site, along with the wheelbarrows. There is no scholarship, no useful knowledge gained when someone claiming to be doing an archaeological dig is really engaged in government sanctioned looting.
True, and many of them refuse to even acknowledge anything that does not fit with what they are looking for. Such as there were white people here 45,000 years ago, but they all died out long ago more than 14,500 years ago. That is before the last ice age.
@James Registe Why are you so hostile in this?
@James Registe Dealing with a zealot?
@James Registe riiiiight... okay, sure.
Paul The SL24A5 gene mutation for pale skin complexion is only about 8k years old and around 45/50k years ago the gene that would go on to be European was still in Africa.
Mapungubwe was build by Zimbabwe descents, however it shows how intertwined Africa is. We are one people
it was built by vhangona/bakoni,
Of course if you worth yourself by putting other people's down, you will feel threatened and intimidated at some point. And this is what we are witnessing today...
YES ! WE ARE PUTTING DOWN THE WHITE MAN BECAUSE WE ARE INTIMIDATED !! YOU ARE SO RIGHT ! JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE INTELLIGENT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING !
We need this history to be talked about more often. We recently launched a channel about African heritage an culture🙆🏿♂
What is the name of the channel
@@nkhen_c357 It`s called Intsika Yethu , the same as our profile
25:00 Archeologists, self styled experts, lying about the origin and the race of the people who have created the artefacts they have uncovered. This is why I go to African experts for African History.
Why don’t African experts do documents to counter the perceived lies by foreigners . If Africans don’t tell their stories then the falsehood or perceived truth will always be perpetrated by the foreigners.
MANY AFRICAN ARCHAEOLOISTS DONT KNOW ABOUT IT EITHER !
Flying pyramids and such
@@gregkosinski2303 DID THEY FLY? WHY WOULD THEY LAND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DESRT SURROUNDED BY AFRICAN YAHOO,S ?
@@gregkosinski2303 THEY FLY?
HMMM
In the Shona language of ZIMBABWE, "Mapungu" means, "Fish eagles" and "Chapungu" means one fish eagle. Mapungu Bwe, means the stone of the fish eagles, or the rock of fish eagles. It may also mean the fish eagles made of stone or belonging to the stone or rock. It is usually written as one word, MapunguBwe. Just like Zimba Bwe, means a big house of stone. "Zi" means great or bigger. iMba is one normal sized or usual house. ZiMba, prefixed with Z, or Zi is a great or big house. "Bwe" is a rock or stone in the Shona language of Zimbabwe. Zi = big, mba=house, Bwe = rock/stone. If put together, ZiMbaBwe, means, BigHouseofStone. Correctly written, the country of Zimbabwe, should be spelt, ZiMbaBwe. MapunguBwe, is clearly Shona derived, and it means stone or rock of the Big fish eagle, "Chapungu," or many fish eagles, maPungu, "Mapungu, Bwe can be conjoined as is usual in Shona to be a single word, Mapungubwe, just like whats done with Zimbabwe and many other words such as va sekuru becomes vasekuru, va zukuru = vazukuru. Va kuru = vakuru.
It is derived from Venda it means hills of jackals.
@@thabelodavhana unobva wanyatsoti chiKaranga ka nhai wangu
unobva wanyatsoti chiKaranga ka nhai wangu
@@thabelodavhana the Vendas even made the Zimbabwean birds if I'm not mistaken.
@@Priapus212 you're indeed mistaken
Our government - the department of Arts & Culture - should drop its head in shame for allowing non-Africans to present such a distorted picture of our country's history.
moss leoka how about for showing them the way up the hill to begin with?! How about for helping them destroy the place? Not current government- the people themselves... I don’t understand... guess you had to be there... I wouldn’t have helped. Now they even have your ancestors bones? Wow... at least Germany gave that back to Namibians
EXACTLY!
@@resilience4lyfe331 mind your own business.
@@resilience4lyfe331Civilization BEGAN in AFRICA the SPHINX said so, Even NAPOLEON could not CHANGE a thing just FACTS!! ,so ALIENS Civilisation in SOUTHREN AFRICA is not a Surprise,
Agreed. To say that Africans lacked the ability to mine and smelt gold, is utterly stupid. The Iklwa of Shaka Zulus' Impis were made from quality steel. The Zulu used the metallurgic skills of their vassals to create these stabbing assegais in countless hundreds of thousands. Prior to this, iron working had been in constant use for many generations before the arrival of Europeans on African soil. With such knowledge, indigenous Africans forged the iron tools that enabled them to dress masonry. Such masonry skills were employed in the great civil engineering projects of their times; Great Zimbabwe being but one of these.
I am a proud Venda man, yet we are told our ancestors were uncivilized yet they were mining gold and trade it
It was built by shona people , the shona inhabited this place
@@Leo-uq8ch Vhangona People
@@Leo-uq8ch VHANGONA PEOPLE BUILT IT, STOP LYING
@@Leo-uq8ch Venda People ruled Mapungubwe, Shona is new name Vhangona is the oldest. Not only Vendas, Shona lived in this kingdom here but Pedi people as well. It was a diverse kingdom of Bantu people.
As an African who aligns himself with the notion of Spirituality rather than religion. I strongly believe in the Hindu concept of the Akashic Records.The Akashic Records are believed to be a sort of cosmic library of knowledge about our past, present and future (the Book of Life). Similar to the aborigine concept of Dream-time. i believe that the true history of Africa as spiritual beings who are one with mother nature is found in the spirit world. When we dream, we tap into that cosmic library of the universe and we communicate with our ancestors, whom also have come from the earth and they guide us through these records.
you can be shown your past, present and future. you can be taught also many life lessons and be warned of coming danger and prosperity. you can be taught how to heal sickness and disease etc.
it is believed that only the chosen ones / those who are initiated as wisdom keepers can tap into these records and understand what they are being shown. They then bare the responsibility of conveying the knowledge to their communities.
That is why African history was never written. It has always been found in the spirit world by those who had the ability to access it.
It’s all in the Akashi records!! It will come to you if you search for it
This is interesting, I must do some research on this 💯💯
The Basic Information Before Leaving Earth...shows us to Endure ...hardness as a good soldier [2 Tim 2:3] Hatred ...of evil and evil spirits [Ps 139:22] Knowledge ....not be ignorant [2 Cor. 2:11] Persistence ... abilty to go on resolutely or stubbornly in spite of oppression. [Ps 18:37] Separation ..No man who wars entangles hiself with the affairs of this life. [2 Tim 2:4]
We have been granted access through repentance, faith, salvation and power [Act 1:6-11] which came on [Act 2:1-13]
WRONG !!!
We have a rich history and yet our kids know nothing about it, thanx Timeline for your effort in teaching the world.
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I cant help to feel a bit of anger while watching this. They basically destroyed almost everything our ancestors left for us.
IF WE WERNT SMART ENOUGH TO PROTECT IT THEN GIVE IT TO THE VICTORS !!
WHY DOES THE AFRICAN COUNTRIES ALLOW THIS/
DESTROYED? WHO?
@@salamjihad3449 Is that what your religion teaches you or is your self hate causing you to side with the devils out of fear of going against them?
You are the worst kind of coward there is. If your mother was brutally raped & murdered would you really say “Well if she wasn’t smart enough to protect herself then it’s her fault”?
I believe that is exactly what a natural born coward would say, so to answer my own question while in the process of asking it. YES! Yes you would.
13:06 why does he keep incessantly saying chief? The man he's describing is a KING. Literally a king. He rules over a KINGDOM. He has an army, nobles, commoners, trade, currency, etc. He is literally a king in every right. It is agonizing to see so many people blindly refer to these people as chiefs just because they are African.
Evaluating a cultures use of meaning in language, using your own cultures language as a measuring tool? You’ll always be disappointed
For me to our young generation. BE WEARY OF THE CAUCASIAN NARATIVES. WHILE WE ARE HERE OURSELVES.
WHY? DO YOU THINK AN ASIAN MAN KNOWS MORE ABOUT ASIA THAN A ASIAN SPECIALIST WHO IS AUSTRALIAN?
@@salamjihad3449 Actually, yes. A culture cannot be understood from outside, and includes many accounts that are unfamiliar to outsiders.
@@shelaghmckenna2667 BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ANTIQUITIES SPECIALISTS.. THEY WENT TO AND STUDIES FOR YEARS ABOUT THESE THINGS. PEOPLE COULD LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO THE PYRAMIDS AND KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THEM ! BUT A FOREIGNER COULD COME IN AND TEACH THE LOCALS THEIR OWN HISTORY !!
@@salamjihad3449 I do respect real learning, and I know that people who live in a region may not have the region's culture. I also know that much of this video acknowledges the lies that it chronicles as a history of research, both serious and fallacious, on the subject of Mapungubwe. But I also know, from personal experience, how the educational institutions where these outside researchers have studied ignore the testimony of people whose ancestors have lived in the region, testimony carried down from those ancestors, and how there are gaps in the knowledge of these outside researchers that would be filled if they had respect for that testimony. It is arrogant, and it is not scholarly, to ignore relevant information, especially from a source close to their subject. Also, they should know that there is a great deal to any culture, and that someone coming in from somewhere else is probably going to get many things wrong. They lack humility when they pose as experts on cultures that are not their own. Even if they have respectfully heard what its members have to say, they are unavoidably missing a great deal. I respect the discipline of their profession, and I value the science that comes in and looks at what is physically present, but there is much, much more to know that can be supplied only by someone who knows the culture from inside.
@@shelaghmckenna2667 I WOULD AGREE THAT SOME RESEARCHERS DISCOUNT THE STORIES CARRIED DOWN FOR GENERATIONS BUT GOOD RESEARCHERS DONT HAVE TO BE PART OF THE CULTURE IF THEY THEY TAKE EVERYTHING INTO CONSIDERSTION . ITS JUST WHO YOU LISTEN TO. GRAM HANCOCK IS A GREAT RESEARCHER. HE TAKES THE OLD STORIES AND CUSTOMS INTO ACCOUNT ALSO. SO I STILL SAY YOU DONT "HAVE" TO BE PART OF THE CULTURE TO DO GOOD RESEARCH!
I was brought up in SA and had no idea about this site or it’s significance and did not learn about this in history. I loved this documentary and it is a shame how much was lost in order to keep a false philosophy of control alive.
YOU WERE BROUGHT UP IN SA AND IT TOOK A EUROPEAN TO TELL YOU ABOUT IT !! THATS THE PROBLEM WITH AFRICANS !! THEY LET OTHERS DO THE STORY TELLING !
A shame ???? Family of that race traitor mandela??
@@mmzunlondblond2658 YES MANDELLA , MALCOLMX ECT ARE ALL TRAITORS !!
How come you didn’t, Because they teach this in Grade 6??
Thankfully we now have our eyes opened and many men and women are researching our history.
HomeTeam History is one such Site n TH-cam.
I think it's time to go dig up some of the European ancestors desecrate those Graves and see what secrets they hold.
They do!!white pple are innately good!can u imagine the world with the technology that we have today.without anglo saxons .it would be mayhem!!!other pples do encroach on there neighbour
Speak the truth! They have no business there 😡
Nothing
Tony Alan Marchant technology as you know it is not new. Technology has been and still is suppressed.
can't just take that they were 'burial' civilised until just recently. when did they start burying their dead?
"fell victim to the expansionism of the Europeans" is such a polite and delicate way to say "white people invaded their lands and killed or enslaved them, erasing their culture".
Or maybe even more prolific the disease that was brought
@@toddlehman928 OP
Well said
No one knows what other civilizations are yet to be found in Africa and elsewhere.. New finds are frequent and each one adds to our knowledge of the past.. It is hubris to think that any one find gives us complete knowledge of the past..
This is so true.
Most new finds that tries to dispell the old ones are fake.
Are you trying to say that there could've been other non-african looking civilizations that helped build this glorious kingdoms? I just want to understand you better...
Read....The Destruction of a Black Civilization..
EXACTLY ! THEY JUST FOUND A EUROPEAN TEMPLE THAT IS 7000 YEARS OLDER THAN ANY AFRICAN PYRAMID !! KNOWLEDGE CHANGES EVERY YEAR !!
Proudly Venda, I am proud of my ancestors
I could imagine how they will describe this generation into 1000yrs.
Great Zimbabwe Will rise again🇿🇼 🇿🇼🇿🇼🇿🇼
After they conquer their hunger and clean up the the disaster Mugabe left behind.
@@caliz56 yes, we'll fix everything
@@Munyabrwn I pray and hope that is done.For your people have suffered long enough under white rule and under your own people's rule as well.Mugabe did a lot of harm to the folks of your land.May God bless you and your nation.And that prosperity rain upon your people.
A timeline documentary on something close to home...yay!
if it was factual it would be great BUT unfortunately NOT!
Don't worry about what they think that should tell you they are trying to find out where they came from ask the creator and stop living it's not going to help you you know you couldn't have no organ there the 🌞 don't play games with you it is a reminder to you the creator knew this would happen so that's why you will be put out all over this Earth if you don't make a change so l know you won't be warned you see the earth is warming up more and more you have no defense from the Ray's of the 🌞 that's the defense from the sun your war is with nature and the universe shame on those liears what does a man profit to gain the whole world and loose his soul you all are sad and that's why your days on this Earth is numbered
In those days we called excavation grave robbing and grave robbers, no one should go and disturb the deceased when they have laid to rest.
Thank you grave robbers
Yes, it looks like the graves were disturbed and should not have been. Yet, they do that often with ancient Egyptian mummies and relics, and when I see them in a museum, I think they want to be in the museum. It is not a nice thing to disturb a grave, but in today's world, one often does not know what will happen to the area involved, worse things can happen, and unknown gravesites being disturbed worse, and the remains not ending up in a museum or university, just lost forgotten or disposed of by accident. It is sad the graves were disturbed but at least they are preserved and taken care of. I am unsure if they are my ancestors, maybe a few of them are. It is very sad all of the wildlife that died. Maybe they should make a wildlife park. I love wildlife, and biodiversity. It is difficult to believe they would allow the decimation of wildlife or tress, etc.
The price you pay when you dont unite against the enemy.
THAT WHY THEY WON THE WAR AND YOU KNOW THE OLD SAYING! WITH THE VICTORY OF WAR GOES THE PLUNDERS TOO !!
Very interesting ,love the history .
Some narratives makes the contents of this video questionable, it is good to have our history documented but must not be questionable in an obvious manner.
I love how evocative the opening narrative to this documentary is! Stellar writing like that is a dying art in documentaries.
Go away with your stupidness
Renewing. Our Nze
Thank you for the clarification of. The mother land
WOW...HOW IS IT IMPOSSIBLE 4 AFRICANS 2 NOT HAVE DESIGNED THE PYRAMIDS N LIVE IN HUTS...HOW COULD U SAY THIS? IT'S THE SAME AS IF U'R SAYING THE EGYPT IS NOT AFRICA!!! WE ALL KNOW EVERYTHING BLKS HAVE OR CREATED IT'S WHT WASHED BY SUCH JEALOUSY N HATRED!!! GBU!!! :-)
In Zimbabwean Karanga language which is a Shona dialect,Hungubwe means Jackal therefore Mapungubwe possibly means the place or the stones of the jackal,that is stones inhabited by the jackal.The Venda,Kalanga and numerous Shona dialects extending into Mozambique are closely related as they were possibly satellite kingdoms of the Mwenemutapa empire.The small kingdoms paid tribute to the paramount chief whose title was Munhumutapa.They established several trading posts which battered gold,ivory etc for tools,pottery, guns and cosmetic items like beads and mirrors.Their trade port was Sofala in present day Mozambique and the Capital started off as Mapungubwe and then was moved to Madzimbabwe or Great Zimbabwe,meaning house of stone.Its quite fascinating that the satellite kingdoms called the Kings in their own language like King Sororenzou would be known as Thohoyandou in Venda,Mambo Chirisamhuru would be known as Mambo Tjilisamhulu in Kalanga
I thought so. Pungubwe means jackal
Great document. One I can really connect to.
Loving this one thanks for sharing very information blessed love to all knowledge is power hopefully everyone pays attention keep up the good work 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
That's the flag of our kidnapped relatives country by white Supremist who can be both black and white. Every empire declined. I am proud to be african
@@West.African.Liberian-my-love❤🖤💚
mhungubwe-jackal, chapungu-fish eagle, pungura-flinting or make less. shona and venda are one, but lived side by side with sotho as one people
The Venda language arose from interactions with Sotho-Tswana and Kalanga, vhongona/Bakoni in sotho are majority of modern day vendas today, within venda community majority actually have sotho ancenstory
Is it true then that Kalanga is not a language but was just the name of Zwide Kalanga @@engineer3126
"When you know yourself, you are empowered. When you accept yourself, you are invincible."
Islam before the birth of Christ. There was no Islam until at least the 6th century A.D.
Yeah, the narrator's script is all over the place. Twelve hundred years of history tossed like a salad.
naglma I agree. It's embarrassing and one wonders how much is truth and how much is propaganda
When was Islam mentioned to exist before Christ?
naglma you are deaf . Listen to homie again. Are Asians Islam? You white people are something else ...lol.
lagosian how do you know they're even white?
Great documentary. I enjoyed and learnt a lot. So good I watched twice.
5:42 “Islamic seafarers were attracted by trade opportunities along East Africa’s coast since before the birth of Christ.”
This is obviously wrong. Islam didn’t exist until 7 centuries AFTER Christ, which means there were no such things as Islamic seafarers or Islamic anything, by definition. I wonder what else they got wrong.
Thank you Regolith!!!
It is clearly an error bit do find other reasons to discredit what is otherwise a very good documentary.
Same thoughts.
Most likely invaders, and they ruined the wildlife there. Unlikely a tribe that respects their nature and makes gold sacred objects out of hippos would sell off the nature to such an extent unless threatened. It is possible that the tribes that Islam evolved from were the seafarers. Before Mohammad became a great prophet, he was a trade person on ships, and Mohammed was said to be from a wealthy family of chieftains, or whatever they are called. It is possible those tribes wore similar outfits as the Islamists later. This is not my area of study, just a suggestion for the confusion.
Why would they want us to learn our history when our Dept of education continues to teach outdated colonial white history and continues to imports Western, and European curriculums
This vid taught me so much.
Thank you 👍💕😊
malemba long live malemba long live africa
Absolutely sad, yet those land stll belongs to those intruders, who decimate a culture to plunder the graves of the dead.
Sounds like what they did to the indigenous in the whole North America and South American continent
I'm pretty sure they said it's a national monument and the government of South Africa is run by black people now so I think it's as returned as can be.
Yes the bantu tribes invaded around 14century...
5:41 *"Islamic seafarers were attracted by trade opportunity along East Africa's coast since before the birth of Christ."*
There weren't any Islamic seafarers before the birth of Christ.
The founder of Islam wasn't born until almost six centuries later.
That is exactly what I heard and could not believe my ears.What a bs documentary.
I caught that as well, i assumed they most probably meant Arab. A lot of people confuse the words Arab and Muslim
@@kgosiyabokone4568 That would be my guess. They simply conflated a diverse peoples, "Arabs," who practiced a plurality of religions then and now, and a religion, "Islam" and lumped them all neatly into an easily digestible bite sized morsel while simultaneously collapsing time to accomplish this trick.
You deserve a Bell's.
Finally a fair criticism.
Very cool.
Very interesting...upload.
if it was actually facts they used to make this. Yes
At 5:42. How can there be "Islamic seafarers" before the birth of Christ when Islam itself started 600 years after Christ. That statement I believe was a mistake.
☪️ suggests that Jesus prophesied the comforter who was to come after him and that M and he was to be the last prophet so, there is an error somewhere.
Nothing new. History has no room for African past. Africans will never live a whole life because their past is rubbished and deemed valueless. They are so fragmented by the past but the value of an African is still healthy-and insulated by their sincerity to the universe. He rises above it all in spirit. His conscience is his salvation nothing else.
Maphubgubgwe is actually a TjiKalanga Word for Place of the Jackal. I am amazed at how so many writers in this space deliberately or not seek to silence the Kalanga Narrative from the history of Southern Africa despite the fact that all pointers - Oral Traditions, Family Praise Names, Written Records and Archeology point to the Kalanga. You just need to look at the location of all the Nzimabgwe Cities. They are exactly where have always been settled, what is now the Venda, Matebeleland and the North East of Botswana.
Where do you place Vhangona people?
DUDE U DONT KNOW HISTORY OKAY U BUILT NOTHING DONT STEAL VENDAS HISTORY . KALANGAS DONT COME FROM EGYPT ONLY SINGOS AND LEMBAS COME FROM NORTH AFRICA WHICH IS TWO OF THE 4 TRIBES THAT FORMED VENDAS . MAPUNGUBWE IS A VHANGONA LANGUAGE . STOP CLAMING THINGS U DONT KNOW . APART FROM THINGS U CLAIMING WAT ELSE DID U BUILT IF WE REMOVE GREAT ZIMBABWE AND MAPUNGUNBWE WHICH IS AT THE MASVINGO LAND AS I SAID SINGO CAME FROM EGYPT , VENDA HAS ALOT OF THIS BUILDING MY FRIEND
@@thabelodavhana if you have to put across your point in capital letters like this there is a chance that you don't know what you talking about. In fact, what's more shocking is how ignorant you are of Venda history itself, let alone of who VhaKalanga are.
@@nehemiahmukwevho2644 Vhangona (VhaVenda) Are actually the original inhabitants of Mapungubwe and Zimbabwe
@@nehemiahmukwevho2644 could the 'Vhangona' also mean Vha nguni. Sounds the same.
Thank you.
According to the white man, there were NO black people in Africa. They just appeared after the european settlers found Africa sitting waiting to be discovered. Then they wrote the History of Africa. Never mind the caves with drawings on the mountains (Matatiel), Cango caves. And all over Africa with history of how the Africans who were never there lived.
I've been there. I saw them myself.
I can understand your anger at the treatment of your culture, history is well taught in many countries. I have never heard or read that there were no black people in Africa. As an Irish person having some much wealth, resources, and monuments destroyed by the British colonizers, it is infuriating to realize, that so much culture has been lost due to greed and hate. I wonder if there are written records in the middle east and India due to the earlier trade routes and some hidden knowledge yet to be revealed.
That's not true. Scholars have well-documented evidence from the early Portuguese and Dutch sailors and explorers who wrote that they encountered only San and Hottentot (Khoi) people in the far South of the African continent in the mid-17th century. Arabs traded with their forefathers along the central African East coast, and the tribes were heading slowly into new lands further South.
White scholars do not deny that black tribes populated all of central and western Africa. There is argument about when they reached South Africa on their slow migration from the North. Certainly Great Zimbabwe and Mapumgubwe were there before the whites set foot in Southern Africa. That is the far North of South Africa as it is known today.
They met when the whites moved North, and the "border" was drawn at the Fish River on the Eastern coast, and extended to the Kei River. (To create a buffer zone in modern terminology.)
The art in the Cango caves is many thousands of years old, and is certainly left to us by the San people. Who were systematically exterminated by blacks and whites alike.
Don't complicate the matter by adding another layer of untruth on top of the pile.
Nobody said that there was no black people around ,when the white settlers started moving into the interior of South Africa they found South Africa to be almost void of human life just here and there marauding small parties of the black tribes that remained from tribal wars fought with the Zulu king Shaka and his brother Dingaan that murdered other tribes to almost extinction, there is even an area that the white settlers called "The valley of the bones"of fallen warriors ,but history has been twisted and changed .
@@tokkieandrews9988 in a debate from the 50s by students from Nigeria, South Africa, Ethiopia and some other countries this was said twice by South african participants as something they were taught in schools that the Dutch settlers did not find any Africans on arrival. This history younstate too is only from times dated by the settlers themselves. There is not definitive history by the indigenous people. However, if you travel to matatiel (I went to school there). The caves in the mountains bear a different history. The drawings similar to mayams and Egyptians depicting hunting and life. The cango caves (I visited in 2000) also show a history of life there years before the settlers. I.am not a history intellect but I did study it in my school days and I also am South African. I believe I can speak with some knowledge of the country. No disrespect. I also went to school in Bantu and later white institution. They teach differently either side.
@@tokkieandrews9988 The Zulu were not fighting other tribes, they were fighting each other
more African history please...
The problem is, Sub-Saharan Africans who never came into contact with Arabs didn't have written language, so their history only begins where Europeans started writing it down.
whc.unesco.org/en/list/1099
www.sahistory.org.za/article/mapungubwe
Mapungubwe Cultural Landscape - UNESCO World Heritage Centre
The Mapungubwe Cultural Landscape demonstrates the rise and fall of the first indigenous kingdom in Southern Africa between 900 and 1,300 AD. The core area covers nearly 30,000 ha and is supported by a suggested buffer zone of around 100,000 ha. Within the collectively known Zhizo sites are the remains of three capitals - Schroda; Leopard’s Kopje; and the final one located around Mapungubwe hill - and their satellite settlements and lands around the confluence of the Limpopo and the Shashe rivers whose fertility supported a large population within the kingdom.
@@Marmocet false
@Jugoba 777 Written language was introduced to almost all of Sub-Saharan Africa. Ethiopia is the exception.
@Jugoba 777 And let's not forget the wheel either. Sub-saharan Africans never figured that one out either.
Yeap am venda and am very happy to see that my people vendas are being included in the history of the human achievement in the world world
Excellent !!! €ye actually learned something of Indigenous significance !!!!!
This video is interesting
How can you travel from your continent to another man's continent and claims everything there was discovered by you 🤔
not all born , raised and educated in Africa are black Africans.....
MOST OF IT WAS.
It’s disgusting
BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE PEOPLE LIVING IN THAT COUNTRY ONLY REALIZE SOMETHING IS IMPORTANT IS WHEN SOMEONE ELSE WANTS IT !!
WHY NOT? IF SOME EUROPEAN DISCOVERED IT BEFORE AN AFRICAN DID THEN WHY NOT?
"the rhinoceros symbolized stubbornness and power and must of been made in honor of a great king"
what are you really trying to say... can't listen to this anymore
Forgive me if you mentioned it.. steel manufacture, in which a high amount of carbon is combined with iron, for making sharp blades predated European production by a long time
very very very good topic
Oh Great Mawu Sogbolisa, the creators of our great ancestors, is there any greater punishment for these strange intruders who had desecrated the final resting places of your servants?
Teach the names of ancestors....many have no God's because of the intruders....gather your forces.
WHY WOULD THESE AFRICANS ALLOW SUCH THINGS ?
The Government demonstrates how "1 lie" leads to so many.
*"re-inter those remains"*
very interesting.
Well he did tell this story with more admiration in comparison to others.
Africans must do their own archaeology and anthropology. I believe that the greatest civilizations and empires that have ever existed in the world are buried under the sands and soils of Africa.
MAYBE . BUT MOST OF THE WORLD HAD GREAT CIVILIZATIONS ALSO. SOME FOUND SOME STILL UNDISCOVERED !!
AND OTHER CONTINENTS !!
The Continent of 🌍 has a rich history. Once the european arrived in Mother Africa the european had only one desire to divide conquer enslaved ravages etc
@@139fulton ALL RACES DID THAT !!
@@139fulton WHY DO YOU CALL IT "MOTHER AFRICA" ? HUMANS WERE AROUND BEFORE AFRICA WAS ITS OWN CONTINENT !!
Imagine a body of knowledge embodied here not accurately documented. I know about all this information and lineage through dreams. Comments made here shed light and great input on my visions and largely why i find myself traveling amd establishing these contacts. Thank you.
THROUGH DREAMS ?
@@salamjihad3449 Do you do any reading? I see you down everyone's comment but add nothing to them. You dear are a spiritual being made of energy and as they say energy never dies.
@@interestedbabble7501 hmmm thats a very priative way of thinking about it !! your kind of on the right path
Our History and Truth are out there...
we Cannot stop searching!
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I like it.
They had Vibranium. That's the most powerful substance in the universe.
I THOUGHT KRYPTONITE WAS !!
Omg the legends tell of grave robbery and an associated curse.
Recommendable
I m being enlighten in Africa history
Interesting. Perhaps mostly anthropologically: the image of the 'king', in a European Safari jacket, flanked by suited henchmen, and surrounded by a chain of naked women whilst others crouch in homage at his feet is highly illustrative of the type of civilisation that has been lost.
Sounds a lot like Louis 15 court, but that didn't happen till 200 years later, guess you guys needed time to catch up.
@@jamestcatcato7132 😂😂😂
Great documentary. Thank for Prof Eloff and team from UP to capture this awesome information of a tiny bit of pre-colonial SA history. Fascinating to know that Sir Seretse Khama from the Bakalanga tribe stayed in Botswana, the direct ancestors of the Mapungupwe Kingdom. Some remnants still live in Venda: the Sekgosese_, Botlokwa_, Babirwa_ and Bakgalaka_/ Kalanga tribes. King Mzilikazi of Matebele tribe ended up in South Zimbabwe. Please someone do a doctorate on this and interview locals and people like Ian Khama from Botswana. Compliments to Diski Tube who provided the info.
Blasblabla, 4 mill of you, 23 mill of us, don't give me no talk, pack up or get buried
finally some african history thats just about northern Africa.
I wonder why we learned about the History of the Zulu tribe here in Limpopo schools and not about our own history of Mapungubwe which is far more interesting than the rest.
We did learn about it, just not in detail like the Zulu tribe
Remember, this history was hidden by whites to prevent it from contradicting with their theory that they came to SA before the Blacks.We shouldn't be pointing fingers at each other.The white race thrive on our division.peace.
Digging deeper, Probably more cities :)
Now I can understand why Hebraic names in Southern Africa are concentrated more around the Venda area; names such as the Damanes, the Chabanes, the Landaus, and others.
The whole of bantu is hebraic! Mentioning only venda and the lemba is just a tip of the iceberg... The difference is that the venda and lemba did not forget where they came from while the rest of us have been sleeping under deception for generations(some from external forces and some self-inflicted) There is a lot of deception throughout history. The great bantu migrations don't closely coincide with biblical Israelite diaspora by mistake.. The name in itself gives the history away, Ba-ntu came from Ba-yithu (those of The House), ntu is the root word of yithu.. The full name was Bayithuaela or Bayithuela meaning those of The House of God.
Ba(those of) - Yithu(the House) - A(of) - Ela(God).. Ela/Elah is another ancient hebrew Name for God, which Islam today calls Allah.
@@romeoselatole4734 Thank you for this clarification, Elaha Illaya (Aramaica). [Dan. 3:26] "..ye servants of the Most High God, come forth, and come hither." [Dan. 5:18] "O thou king the Most high God gave Nebuchadnezzar." [Dan 5:21] " till he knew that the Most high God ruled in the kingdom of men.." Translated: "The most high God", Aramaic equivalent to the Hebrew El Elyon, Meaning GOD (IS) THE ONE. [Gen. 14:18] "..and he was the priest of the most high God." [Psm. 78:35] "And they remembered that God was their rock, and the high God their redeemer." See also [Gen. 14:19, 20, 22.]
.... and that shofar!
@@yehovahshammah.yehovah-is-6082 all bantu people historically had the shofar, it's called phalafala
@@romeoselatole4734 can you tell me more ,I'm born again so I'm interested !
Thanks!
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Love it . Cape town
How could Islamic Seafarers be attracted to (5:40) "East Africa's Coast since before the birth of Christ " if Christianity predates Islam?
Rob Haze I think he meant Arab traders and slavers.
I was going down here to point out the same thing: he should've said "Arabic"; clearly what was meant. I think it was the editors and writers for the show that missed this, as I doubt historians or archaeologists would've made such a fundamental blunder. I paused to comment; hoping there's no more of them…
Picked this up as well. Simple error but these things need precise language.
the production made an error there that should have been corrected. it could only have been Arab, since your point is correct.
Probably meant Arabic seafarers.
At 4:37 the archaeologist describing the use of a spindle is wearing a silver ring. Can anyone confirm that's an Arlend Bend ring from Albuquerque, NM? Bears in the Zuni style, right?
Mapungubwe was built by Shonas who built great Zimbabwe
You're misleading people. Mapungubgwe was a Kalanga Empire
What does Kalanga mean?
@@maiaallman4635 a tribe
the kalanga in shona its Karanga. so MapunguBwe is also a shona word. I do not know when are you going to accept that we are one people. The Great Zimbabwe and the Mapungubwe ruins were built with particular southern african tribes which include the Karanga ( Shona people) the kalanga( the south african pple etc. Remember, AFRICA was a land without boarders, we are one people, the white pple divided Africa in a Berlin conference. REMEMBER THIS, WE ARE ONE PEOPLE
Exactly..that is not Sesotho but Kalanga
@@obusitsekologwe1633 It is also a Tshivenda word
Mapungubwe means place of stone and Zimbabwe from Great Zimbabwe means house of stones. You cannot explain the Venda history without Great Zimbabwe. Thanks for the video anywhere
No Mapungubwe means place of jackals ruled by Vhangona people before senzi people arrive in in present dau Venda
You right ,
very cool
@TimelineChannel I would like to cite this. What is the publication information for this documentary? Date? Location? Production? For material that his historical - this kind of basic information about the sources of the videos should be included in the description.
200 000 years ago we had metropolis in Southern Africa. Mapungubwe is one of the last cities... along with Kweneng and other settlements.
Lies. Mud huts.. nothing else
🤦🏿♂️...
SOME FLAKES OF GOLD, LOTS OF BEADS AND SOME DRYSTONE WALLS.
Mambo va no tamba va chi pembera va ka farisisa. Amen.
Pure Shona there.
Thanks
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After the dispatch of the kingdom the last born of the King na Alilale went north(Great Zimbabwe) currently known as shonas, the middle child went east (dzata & tshivhase) and became Venḓas and the first born went south and they were known as Batwanamba they spoke a mixture of venḓa & tswana. They moved after their father told them they were cursed because the kingdom experienced a malaria outbreak following a drought season in area.