Landlord threatens tenants with eviction for apartment AC units
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- Tenants at 130 Jameson Avenue are being told to remove air conditioning units in windows or face eviction. Mark McAllister looks at the fight against The Myriad Group.
Am I missing something? Is the tenet paying the electricity bill or the landlord? Bc if the tenet is paying the electricity bill then the landlord has no right to say anything. Smh
It is an older building so it is probably not individually meter-wired units. The power is included in the monthly rent. So with power rates soaring the landlord has a point. So you pay a fee to cover the power that the air conditioner if you instal one for 2 months of the year. Air conditioners are heavy on power use. Frankly, that is fair as long as the monthly fee is reasonable.
This is what happens when corporations buy up all of the real estate...
And governments let them
Oh the hunger games will be here soon enough, don't you worry.
You mean Europeans bc they still on stolen land
And this is what happens when our politicians don't serve and protect people that voted them into office. No watchdog group. No tenant protection rights
I hope they start a class action against the group. And I'm also betting the management group is foreign investors and thar is why they think they can get away with this bs.
What's next, we can't use our own electric radiators to heat our units during winter time?!
You can just pay extra hydro bills, if you lived in a house are you asking your Neighbor to pay your extra hydro usage?
@@whatdoyouwantfromme1029 dead beat parasite tenants who cry about everything , yet wont change their lifestyle to own their own homes
@@maxim8585 if the agreement says hydro is all inclusive then it shouldn't matter how much you use unless it is dangerous or something. give your head a shake goofball
This world gone nuts
@@hovojefe usually hydro is included only for the provided appliances. If AC or radiators are not provided by the landlord, the expense should be paid by tenants.
Most apartment building owners charge extra for anyone using AC units
Hydro is expensive . Canada is expensive. All hype no substance.
Bootlickaaaa
Expensive because of deregulation and privatization allowing capitalists and landlords to artificially drive up prices.
if anyone gets killed because of the heat in the apartments, wouldn't the shady landlord be liable.....like I said don't trust any landlord, they are ALL shady
They are the true parasites of society.
I am confused, why not pay the extra for the hydro and use it. As per the video, the landlord offered that choice and was declined by the tenant, but still used it.
@@jk6573 exactly. If hydro is included with rent obviously you should pay extra for using ac. We had this same deal years ago and just payed an extra 50 per month in the summer. This isn't news it's just people being babies.
I'm a landlord and in my housing I have heating and air. not all landlords are mean
@@lalaj5831 Let's pass a law making landlords illegal. If they're ALL BAD, then why not get rid of them. Then, you house every single renter out there.
Wait, there's a law that makes sure it doesn't get too cold in the winter but not one for summer? Why not?
even in Canada , it MAY not get too cold, even during evening hours ,
It's been like that for as long as I can remember.
The same applies to a workplace. An Employer must maintain a minimum heat during winter, but is not obligated to provide broad cooling at the location. There is an exception under the Occupational Health & Safety Act though. There is a regulation that requires an Employer to create and maintain a "Hot Weather Plan" Which includes temperature monitoring, additional cooling breaks as the temperature climbs. And provide a place where employees can cool off.
Failure to to follow the plan or preventing heat related illness could lead to charges by the MOL. (Section 25 of the OHSA is the most likely charge... Failure to take precautions in the protection of the safety of a worker. Maximum fine for an individual violating this section is $25,000.00 and upto one year in jail. The employer cannot compensate that supervisor or manager to offset the fine)
The other option is that operation shut down due to excessive heat can be included in a collective agreement (if the workers have a union).
Canada didn't used to be so hot in the summer...
@@gryph01 thx for this
In this case this disgusting government should start putting some laws in place protect tenants from this absolute obscene greed.
The outside world think’s Canada is paradise to live in, if only they knew the truth.
its because of the all bs propaganda we spread all over the planet.
It’s one of the easiest and safest countries to be homeless in though lol
Canada is very beautiful country. This all has gone wrong in last 10
Years .High rent crime .Gas gone up
And know housing availability problems.
@@saberusmaximus2703 I dunno...What I can tell you with some degree of certainty, is that we do have a homeless problem here, after so much travel I can tell you that this is not the greatest place to live...not by far.
Same for America 🙄
Hundreds of seniors died in the famous BC heat dome last summer because they didn’t have air conditioning, or they had it but couldn’t afford to pay their greedy landlord the extra gotcha fees.
Yup like it is the landlords job to pay for the roof over other adults head? Are they also responsible for feeding them too or is that Safeway's responsibility or the restaurant owners.
@@clarifyingquestions A landlord is running a business and should expect a fair profit. But there are costs associated with running a business.
This story is not about a "mom & pop" landlord. Rather it's about a corporation owning a number of properties. They tend to have bigger pockets to offset costs. Their primary concern is maximizing profits for the shareholders.
@@clarifyingquestions The landlord for the most part is a multimillionaire sitting around doing nothing, so no I guess it's not his job to do anything other than collect a pay cheque somebody else earned.
@@gryph01 So? A large corporation like Esso - been to a gas station lately or Costco or Safeway or done any home Renos lately - come on . Are these same tenants expecting Esso to fill up their tanks or Safeway to fill their cupboards. ps those mom and pop landlords are/were called greedy too.
@@person-yu8cu So it is the multimillionaires job to do all the work and when they become successful then it is their job to look after you - What is wrong with you that you cant be successful too. sheesh
That's why all rental units should have separate electricity meters. It's a bit ridiculous to suggest air conditioners are not allowed during a heat wave.
I think that is now the code for new buildings.
My lease states that you have to pay an additional $25 a month for use of an air conditioner. May to September $125 total. Quite reasonable to me.
sounds like something a landlord would say
@@Krumm420 Simple person......
It's not *just* the hydro - anything above ground level window ACs is banned in most places due to the injuries or even DEATH often caused when they fall 10 stories, due to poor installation, etc. They've been banned in my building for YEARS. Notice the article not only does not mention this, they only show window model ACs 🧐
@@Krumm420 that is reasonable, my bill is easily 100 dollars more a month with ac sometimes more 25 a month for ac is very fair you are not entitled to a hand out and forcing a landlord to pay for your comfort is literally so entitled XD
@@thatcanadianguy3327 I completely agree. Unfortunately people like Krumm34 don’t seem to realize that THEIR demands and expectations make THEM the elitists.
My lease states that I have to pay an extra $25 for support walls. Quite reasonable to me.
Skyline Living recently sent every tenant in my building a similar letter, claiming air conditioners are falling out of windows and hurting people. Window air conditioners are now banned, but we can have portable units.
As long as you install them with balcony underneath you are good
If no balcony then it is a danger
Get some 1/2 inch clear flexible tube one at 2.5ft and one at 1.5 or just a bit longer two hose clamps and put your unit up on a coffee table with two 2 inch thick pcs of wood( a 2x4 works well) and the width of the bottom of your unit put oi on the wood so wheels don't touch athach the hoses to drain plugs put hoses in a large water jug and you only have to empty it once a day and your unit won't shut off in the middle of the night
And this is where CityTV is misleading....
You're allowed to have floor models. But that's not mentioned here...
It's not *just* the hydro - anything above ground level window ACs is banned in most places due to the injuries or even DEATH often caused when they fall 10 stories, due to poor installation, etc. They've been banned in my building for YEARS. Notice the article not only does not mention this, they only show window model ACs 🧐
@@robertlondon7699 or just buy a floor model my dude why are people having so much trouble with this 🤷
@@vegetablelasagna2684 floor models are much more expensive to buy and these tenants are cash-strapped. It's a matter of $$$. Also floor models take up space and these could be very small Apts.
This makes total sense. Installing an AC unit would substantially raise the hydro bill. So tenants pay the increased hydro costs. Choice A move out; Choice B remove the added hydro costs ie AC or Choice C - pay for the increased hydro cost. Move on with your lives:)
This nonsense of yours would make sense if AC units caused the greedy Myriad group to go bankrupt, but it wouldn't. Their current profit margins, which you don't take into account, will absorb the extra utility cost. Some of them might not be able to renew their golf club memberships, that's all. Meanwhile their responsibility is to provide LIVABLE apartment suites.
Did you see choice C as an option?
@@kernalbert4939 If I understand correctly, all "choices" in OP refer to choices made by tenant. What's missing is the most logical and ethical choice: The Myriad Group pays for the extra hydro costs.
@@stephenhardy4158 Like so many who have never been involved in owning or renting property, you're under the assumption that all landlords are rich. FAR FROM IT! I've been owning/managing property for decades, and it's a business like any other, and if you don't watch your costs CAREFULLY, you'll be in financial trouble in no time. It's actually quite hard to make any money renting apartments, unless they're very high $$$ downtown units, which command very high rent.
@@nodammit Fair enough in the case of individual landlords, but we're talking large rental groups here. I guess my main point is that we don't know Media Group's portfolio, or whether they are themselves part of a larger corporate portfolio. Meanwhile the corporate class globally is getting richer. What you're not acknowledging is that elderly people need a place to live where they don't die of heat exposure, period. Btw, I've owned my own business in which I rent out work spaces for 30 years now.
as they sit in their air conditioned office writing eviction letters then go home to air conditioned multi million dollar 8 bedroom mansion...
This seems to be a financial issue. If those landlords pay the electric bill, they have a case. If possible, install meters for every unit and make tenants responsible for their utilities. problem solved. Many tenants also abuse when it's all inclusive.
@@bmw803 lol
Killing people in their apartments during a heat wave, cruel & unusual tenant situation !
Find an appt with an ac unit!
This is Canada. The high temp is 77 to 83 degrees during the day.
That's not a heat wave and nobody is going to die from that.
The company should put in proper airconditioning for everyone. Problem solved
Sounds like major renovations to me, everyone gotta leave!
Not an option.
They would have to empty the building of all tenants for almost a year to do an upgrade of that magnitude. Adding central air to every apartment would also require an upgrade to the electrical service to every apartment. Not to mention every cooling system would require it's own condensate drain.
You would need engineering, permits and many inspections.
By the Time that's all done it would be a luxury apartment building and nobody would be able to afford it.
My daughter had this requirement in an apartment in Brooklyn NY. She paid a little extra and everyone was fine and happy.
This is all about greed, and ripping people off exploiting the horrific liberal destruction of Canada situation.
@@susieschilling4009 huh?????
I think if landlord pays for electricity then running AC continuously is a BIG DEAL
A small 1000 sq ft unit can cost as much as 180/unit to run AC Unit
Paying for AC should NOT be free to tenants
my landlord brought and installed an AC for me she also brings delicious foreign food from time to time. what a lovely lady.
Are you kidding me? You have the absolute best landlady EVER If that's the case. People in the property rental industry are usually heartless and lack compassion for other people
@@mikeh2129 Yes very true. I've lived in many different homes, and had a couple nice land-ladies, but these were just elderly ladies renting out a room in their house so they can retire on more than diminishing OAS, not corporate landlords with huge profit margins.
the building has to have the adequate electrical wiring to support all these AC units.
It does, since it was built according to minimum electrical codes, which account for such loads.
Does that look like a new build to you? Dude, they've had AC in those windows since the 90's. Why is this an issue now?
@MARQUIS de QUEENSBURY 5.0 Exactly! Just be upfront with it..
@@62Cristoforo Minimum electrical codes in what year? Could be that the owner's insurance company has something to do with this. I'll bet it does come down to wiring and electrical loads.
This has been the norm to be charged if you have ac for years...
Ontario has a standard lease agreement. There is no legal basis for eviction here. The landlord agreed to pay the hydro, they didn't specify what for.
Ahh, sounds like a good place for me to move a few tonnes of my crypto mining hardware.
If you make ANY alteration to your rented space without a landlord's OK, you could be served a a legitimate eviction notice. However, the eviction can be very easily delayed by the renter's challenge through the Tenancy Board, which has HUGE discretion in these situations.
putting a window AC is not alteration of the rented space. its literally puting a cooling fan in the window. can be removed as easily as installed.
Alteration? You mean opening a window? That is pretty much all that is involved in installing a window a/c. Open the window, put the unit in the opening, and block the rest of the window with plywood, Styrofoam or piece of plastic. It's hardly an "alteration". Would it be ok if someone put different curtains in their window, or hang a picture, or should they be evicted for that too?
By your logic opening a window is an alteration? Are you crazy?
@@kapasitorcpt9249 These are very dangerous for, and are now mostly banned from, anything above ground floor - you cooling your rolls doesn't override my kid's safety. Want some cool? Buy a floor model. Want to live like a baller with freezers and apartment washers and do whatever you want with your window AC?? Move our of subsided housing, Ghetto Fab
@@carletonrutherford1799 No need to be so defensive. I'm definitely not the enemy here. As I said, the template Rental Agreement has plain language about "alterations" and the landlord can (and will, obviously) make their own determination regarding what fits that category. The Tenancy Board will then ALSO make their determination whether or not the landlord's interpretation is reasonable.
Landlords can't evict people if they're not alive to do so
they don't need to at that point.
Why should landlords pay higher electric bills !
You want air-conditioning you pay for it .
It's 100% legal to evict somebody for ANYTHING you put in a lease. You could put "nobody can wear the color blue on the premises" and it's legal. If these tenants ALL put a window unit in, it will strain the amperage supply to the building. In addition- if they get free electricity, it's obvious you can't have an ac unit in you window
No one is giving free electricity in a high rise. They probably pay it themselves.
The landlord may be concerned about different makes and models installed on the sides of this building which is an eyesore.
I lived in an apartment where the landlord provided each tenant with one window AC unit installed in the livingroom. My son wanted to buy a floor model and place it in his bedroom. The landlord forbade him because he would have to perform alterations to his window to permit a tube carrying condensed water to drip down the side of the exterior brick wall.
I think the landlord should try to update the heating and cooling system of the building. If not feasible , at least allow AC units and portable AC units at no extra charge except for the extra electricity charges. My complex has no deep freezer rule but provide only the standard apartment fridge, which is not large enough for families. It is so ridiculous.
If you want to stay COOL then pay the extra hydro charge or tell the Toronto Hydro to give the Landlord free hydro. Stop blaming Landlords.
What about winter? I want to stay WARM. Is there an extra charge for that, too?
With zero capacity in most of canada, this appears very sketchy.
If the landlord is paying the hydro I can see why they would want an extra charge for a/c. It probably has to do with their insurance coverage. If tenants are using their own appliances it creates extra liability for the landlord. Are the a/cs using extension cords (which is a fire hazard) etc? And the insurance industry is extra hysterical these days.
My understanding is back to the original lease. If it includes hydro and no stipulation regarding certain appliances being used then a tenant is within their rights. The tenant foots the hydro bill. Their wording on the lease signed by tenant accepted by head office but confirm everything with Landlord and Tenant Hotline.
@@Kns567 This was addressed in the video. It is in the lease agreement that only the appliances provided are coved by the landlord. So if a tenant wants to ADD more appliances ie A/C fair enough but they are responsible for the cost of what extra hydro they consumed.
@@Kns567curious if they put a 1000w hps grow op in a tent, do they foot that bill also?
Id think AC being so energy hungry might be considered a luxury not covered.
Good point. But the tenant should have insurance too.
What happened last year during the Summer? Why is this an issue now?
All these apartment buildings are old and have no AC! AC is just a temporary thing for summer heat
And heating is just a temporary thing for winter cold. It's no different
I used to live in Parkdake area yes I did pay fee to have air condition unit and this was in 1978.
Yeah I lived in a place and paid an extra 25$ a month for the months I had A/C just because hydro was included in the rent and obviously air conditioners use more hydro.
The crux of this video was that the landlord wants all existing AC units removed and no new ones will be approved and installed. Hydro is included in the rent and AC units will cost the landlord big time in terms of electricity cost between Spring and late Fall. (Yes, some tenants run the AC not just during the hot Summer months.)
Probably rent-controlled units given the building's age. This is a play by a huge corporate landlord to evict by any means necessary so they can up the rent for the next tenant.
This is why much stronger rent controls are needed. A maximum monthly rate should be enacted. The free market only works when there is a balance of supply and demand. There hasn't been enough housing supply in decades. Time to bust up this de-facto oligopoly by force.
Or you could stop being a leach on someone else and buy your own property.
You're correct that a free market only works with a balance of supply and demand, but the only real solution to fixing an imbalance is not MORE regulation, it is in fact LESS.
@@minuteman4199 Laughing so hard right now. The housing market is so high. Everyone is expecting a crash but it hasn't happened yet. We tried to buy a house for $200,000 recently and the inspector found out it was better suited to being demolished. The person we were buying from still thought the house was worth every penny. Smh What I'm trying to say is, what makes you think someone living in an apartment has the credit and wage to even buy anything right now? Ten years from now I expect more people living in their cars.
@@ghostsuru8429 My point is that no one owes you a living. If you owned a house how would you feel if the government told you who you could rent it to and for how much. or how much you could sell it for? It's the government who got us into this mess in the first place, more government interference isn't going to be what gets us out of it.
Who pays the electric bill the landlord or the tenant?
✍️🕊️ 🇨🇦 I live in Québec. The landlord covers the regular electrical bill 👆but if I CHOOSE the function of an air conditioner, then the electrical $ cost of it {per say} is spread out throughout the twelve months. I don't feel the pain of $ it! 🙂 ... From what I understand here, the tenants have 'a choice' to $ pay for the extra $ cost of use of their air conditioner, which is a necessity, especially for elderlies!
I live here and rent but pay the bill directly. They have an option to pay a set amount every two months then settle at the end of the year, or just pay as you go.
@@mike.1390 You are a smart man Mr. Hill! You go the legal way! ... All this commotion outside the building in public media is embarrassing as it 'stipulates' on paper the written point that they CAN $ PAY the charge of use of their AC ... ⏩ and live 🕊️ peaceably in their apartment 😌
I thought everyone just paid electricity for how much they used…
@@redyr6 if they don't have the infrastructure to monitor every units usage usually they include hydro in the rental.
@@redyr6 Yes, the AC use up A LOT of it and it is normal/legal I guess for landlord to have a separate 'clause' for AC. It is then up to the tenant to accept or refuse before signing the lease. AC is a necessity for elderlies, so it is part of what we need to pay for just as we do for medications, ects. I'm sad that this has gone to the news when they didn't read their notice carefully; they jumped the guns, so to speak. It stipulates that they can $ pay for the function of their AC or else it will go to court {I guess}. There is a way out for them to continue living peacefully. 😐
What about purchasing a portable standing AC for now? I hate to see all of them being evicted. So 😢
Most tenants who pay rent and utilities inclusive often consume them excessively. They must pay extra electricity if they want to use the AC.
100 percent!!
Not necessarily. That sounds like a generalization.
You don't know if tenants "must" pay for AC because you don't know the Myriad Groups profit margins. Meanwhile it's their responsibility to provide LIVABLE apartment conditions.
And they do pay extra on the utilities bills! so why slumlord want more on top lol...
Even though my landlord only provides cold and hot water, I only consume what I need.
"we conduct annual inspections" well apparently not good ones since that lady says shes been doing this for years without a problem
All the more reason to step up enforcement.
I mean "inspections"
Could be change in ownership. Lots of these old buildings getting bought over by new owners looking for any excuse to evict long time tenants to jack up the rents.
@@sharinglungs3226 or maybe they're now finally implementing.what has been for most ALL INCLUSIVE rental units - charge for EXCESSIVE hydro usage - you're supplied a fridge, and there's washing machines downstairs. Want an AC?? Buy a FLOOR MODEL. I'll bet you didn't know you can absolutely buy and install a floor/portable AC unit??? Ye. Because you're easily manipulated and believe all you read
@@vegetablelasagna2684 Idiot
Senior homes in Canada have no Air condition in units
I believe that changed and they must have air conditioning by law now in Ontario, but in some parts of Canada, you would not really need air conditioning. In the Maritimes/Nfld. it generally cools down at night. So for a few hot nights, an open window or fan is just fine. Many have heat pumps that can also cool a home.
Be a real shame if everyone at once didnt pay rent.. then again and again..
landlord and the tenants are all a bunch of dicktrees...
Right - like during the pandemic. Hey and dont pay at the pump or taxes or for your I phone. You sound like a broke person. Sucks to be you.
There is no reason a landlord should pay for the added cost of hydro. There is also an huge liability issue. If that ac falls and hits someone of the head there’s a lawsuit.
Also it has to be installed properly safely and secure and then their insurance company would have to approve also.
So with this being said, they can't install a unit below window 🙄
I hear what you are saying, I live in a Housing Unit an it's not easy. 😐🤨
I think the MPP must read the contract between the landlord and tenants. I am sure it is stated that tenants cannot install these types of machinery without approval and /or there is an extra fee for summer months due to extra hydro consumption ( which is logical ).
You and the land lord are just inhumane. Society is really crumbling when people lose all compassion for others. Let them stay cool in their apartment.
@@sharinglungs3226 really? are you saying that a contract signed by the tenant is inhumane? you need to inform yourself about tenants' rights and obligations first.
Since no window AC units are allowed by tenants, what is the purpose of “without approval”?
@@Landis_Grant In some cases it is more than understandable that the AC unit is forbidden . The common case is because there is no balcony ( so in case the ac unit falls it does not do that over a person's head
@@aquilesriffo My sister-in-law’s apartment complex said the only window AC unit allowed is one supplied and installed by the landlord and there’s a $50 charge for each month it’s being used.
In New York City at least NYCHA lets tenants have an AC unit for a small extra fee.
In our building even with a balcony we can't have window AC's. Has to be a floor model AC which are not that cheap, and you have to have them install it. $250 charge.
I bought a fan :(
What is a floor model AC? You can just get a portable ac and there is no need for them to be involved with any use of it. It vents out a window with a kit it comes with that requires no person to come and "install"....If they claim that you are being scammed by your building. Where is this?
@@aaaaaaaaaa97 thats what he/she meant....
Get a portable ac and use it.....they cannot evict you for using that and they cannot charge you installation fees.
That because someone go their head smashed from a falling one.
Same reason gas canisters have a bazillion warning labels. Stupidity. It's gas like duh.
Floor models are actually better than window as it has a bigger compressor.
@@KayJay940 True. The are definitely nicer if you can afford them. I'm on a balcony though. If it fell out of my window on the second floor it's going to land on the balcony
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PAY EXTRA MONEY FOR HYDRO UNDER THE LANDLORD AND TENANT ACT.
IN Ontario Landlords can ask for some extra money but there must be a justification.
Yes, you people live in NDP / Liberal ran city. Expenses are out of control (check Democrat ran cities in the US). What do you expect??
..and the City TV is there because they are lazy to report on real issues.
Fair enough if the hydro is not separately metered. They should pay more for power consuming AC units.
It's included in the rent. Same as heating in the winter
@@marcforget33 exactly, if people can crank the heat for nine months, why can’t people run the air conditioning for a few weeks of a Canadian summer?
Hydro is Free in Ontario! Revolt Now!
Who is paying the power bill? Why does the landlord care? He does not live there.
So the building has heat but no A/C. That sucks.
This seems perfectly reasonable.
I would also never live there with those lease conditions.
Then leave. No one's stopping you.
@Shy Brotha Speaks maybe I already am 💁
@@vegetablelasagna2684 your attitude stinks, maybe you should work on yourself?
There are probably a lot of long-term tenants that come under rent control so they don't want to move out and pay market rent in a new apartment. It would be better for them to work this issue out.
News doesn’t mention how much additional fee to use AC. Landlord pays for hydro. So it’s reasonable to ask tenants to pay for extra usage.
No matter what happened it is landlord Fault😃I just don’t understand, why people don’t want to cover their own expenses....
@@alinatiwa
No they must get everything for free, that what's it's about
@@mrconductor144 it will be okey, if landlords in conditioner time could have no bills from hydro 😃
If they wanted tenants to pay for hydro they wouldn't have offered inclusive hydro. They offered inclusive hydro because it was of some benefit to the landlord. Now that things are tight and they're pinching pennies suddenly this year AC costs extra? Nah, sorry Mao, you made your choice.
can they plug a fan in every single outlet, get power strips and have like 100 fans running in their place??
Our landlord wants to charge an extra $50/month if we run an A/C. Rent is already $1600 (it was $950 before COVID) for a small 2 bedroom, no elevator, no intercom, no super, 1 ancient washer, 1 ancient drier. The Lieberals keep making things so much better! Thanks Trudolph 👍👍
Cry me a river. I had to pay extra for ac usage 20 years ago. Do you honestly expect the landlord to pay your extra usage??
You need to address your grievance to Doug Ford. This is under Provinical jurdisction, not Federal.
Please spend some time learning to understand the division of powers between the Municupal, Provincial and the Federal governments.
50 dollars for ac sounds reasonable, a window unit costs us about 100$ a month minimum to run 50 would be a god send
How did your rent jump from 950 to 1600?
@@LockedInWithLovebirds Exactly 🤔.... that’s price gouging
There’s no destruction of the property! An AC unit fits in an open window and most people use a piece of cardboard or wood to cover the gap!
The tenants have to unite against the landlords collectively, because the landlords are already united. This is the class struggle between powerful corporate landlords (not your grand parents renting out their basement), and the tenants who are being forced out of their homes by dangerous heat exposure so that the landlords can make more profits, all legally endorsed by the anti-worker state. Class struggle.
Who is paying for Hydro? Is hydro free?
@@mrconductor144 The tenants paying $1,500 per month are more than paying for it.
@@mrconductor144 it's included in the lease.
Very easy to solve this problem. Have tenants pay their own utilities and this way landlords have no reason to complain.
@@person-yu8cu The 1,500 they pay is for the unit. If the lease specifies ALL INCLUSIVE, then the landlord has no say. If they specify extra fees for power, then tenants need to abide with that they signed for. Pay for the power and shut up.
2:13, see the difference between legal and ethical?
Other than one being enforceable?
@@EvergreenVB do laws protect lives?
@@SailorGreenTea I'm sure that many attempt to but I'm not sure what you're getting at. The enforcement of laws generally comes after harm has already been done.
Here's how you fix the problem as a Tenant. Buy a Fan, and a Humidifier. Place the Humidifier in front of the fan. Now you're getting MOIST COLD air blowing inside without the Landlord knowing.
De humidifier not humidifier but thanks for advice
Air conditioning is not “ a basic human right” it’s a luxury
Try saying that when you live in Ontario, which has very hot and humid summers. I absolutely hate this type of climate during the summertime, and can’t survive without AC.
This is Disgraceful
Where is this happening? It seems landlords want any excuse to run out tenants who have been there a long time so that they can rehab and raise rents. Is there rent control or section 8 people there? They do it to these people who have modest yearly rent increases.
If they are worried about AC's falling, then why don't they just install wall units or have the window units on the brackets and have their maintenance men install them personally? AC is considered a necessity for health reasons in the US to the point where you can get it subsidized. These apartments can get very hot, so AC isn't just some frivolous thing.
I think it’s Toronto, Ontario Canada.
So the building does not have central air conditioning and power is included in the rent. My guess is a lot of the tenants have been in the building for quite a while and come under rent control. People need air conditioning in the summer months when it gets uncomfortable. The article does not say how much the landlord is asking for in a monthly fee to run an air conditioner? Let's face it Ontario's power rates have soared and if the landlord can't increase rents to cover the increased power costs there is an issue. So frankly the landlord has a point, if you install an air conditioner you must pay to cover the cost of the power for it. If you don't you don't have to pay. So the fee is a user-only fee and only affects the tenants that instal an air conditioner. The landlord is not saying you can't have an air conditioner but if you do you have to pay for the power. As long as the monthly power fee is reasonable the landlord is not actually being unfair.
Everything that people don't want to pay for is a human right.
RESIDENTS ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE THE AIR CONDITIONERS RUNNING DUE TO THE LANDLORD AND TENANT ACT.
If AC units are not allowed under the rental agreement, like any other 'additional appliance', then not allowed. Break the agreement and face eviction, its simple.
Very common practice I don’t know why these people are whining if your apartment includes Hydro then yes you should have to pay an extra charge for air conditioning because it uses a lot more electricity that’s just common sense it’s a different story altogether if the landlord says no you’re not allowed an AC at all, then That’s a different conversation. But simply asking them to pay a little more because of the extra electricity they use is completely and 100% fair I have to pay extra for my air conditioner and I have no problem with it
Do you pay an extra fee in the winter because you need the heat? Electricity or gas costs during those times a very likely even higher. This logic makes zero sense to me.
That's all good and nice for you but just take a second out of your perfect life and put yourself in the shoe's of an elderly person who lives on a fixed income, you know some people only have $500 to six hundred dollars a month and that's for rent and groceries...try living on that for a few months and then come back here and we'll see if you changed your opinion...!!! Seriously try it and imagine that there is no way to get any more money...!
@@ropshubop Yes we do - its called RENT. Its included in the cost of the rent. Thats why its called "rent inclusive" it includes the expected heating costs in the winter.
@@JacobConkin but not expect cooling costs?? How does it make sense?
@@ropshubop It seems like you are privileged and never lived without AC before.
This is a downright disgrace! That is a form of abuse ! Smdh😞
such nonsense. rental units across Canada are old, bug-infested, falling apart, and landlords are allowed to still charge exorbitant rents.
I'm so glad I left Canada and dont need to put up with this garbage any longer!
Ottawa needs to cap monthly rents at a reasonable amount, like $700-$800 per one-bedroom unit, and require regular maintenance to keep them safe, clean and up to date.
if that's "unaffordable" for building management, then the government needs to start subsidizing it out of the high taxes Canadians pay. period.
I'm also glad you left Canada.
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I'm sure you're not aware that most of these people are paying $180 for a 1 bedroom. Yes, I'm sure you didn't know that.
If landlord is paying the electrical bill than tenant should pay more for period they are running the AC only makes sense.
I suspect the real issue is that the building wiring and electrical service is very old and not really able to handle the current draw from all the AC units.
They want the original tenants out so they can up the rent with new ones
If the LANDLORD is providing the electric included in the rent then YES, they can dictate whether or not you could have an AC unit or not. If the tenant is paying their own electric bill usage of electricity then the landlord has nothing to say. Tenants cannot have it both ways, running up the electric bill with AC units and then expecting the landlord to foot the bill that does not work.
Don’t argue with landlord
You might end up being charge with something profanity
Well when I lived in K/W over a decade ago I had to pay extra for an A/C in the summer it's more hydro just like if you have a car you have to pay extra for a parking spot not a new thing imo.
Exactly. These people expect free hydro for their ac? Lol what a bunch of freeloaders. Ac is a human right now? Spoiled people would rather make a fuss than pay for the hydro they use.
Yes, not dying from excess heat is a human right. I’m surprised you need this spelled out. Are you even human?
@@62Cristoforo so the landlord should pay the extra hydro and tenants get it for free? Is that what you're saying? Please tell me how it's a human right when air conditioning is a comfort/luxury?
Same for camping...if you want to run your R.V. Trailer A/C...you must pay a premium charge...usually 10-15 dollars per day. Way more than the electricity you would use in 24 hours...but that is how it goes...it actually is a money maker for the campground...
@@62Cristoforo well then you have to move to BC like I did or else suffer without air conditioning in Ontario which I also did for most of the 80s and 90s. People freeze to death on the streets of Toronto too how bout their human rights?
I bet the landlord wants to move all his third world buddies in.
I'll bet you don't even know what a Third World Country is. I'll bet you don't. Come in, with Googling it, tell me: what's a Thirst World Country?
I'll give you a hint: it DOES have something to do with Russia.
Don't cheat, my dude
In my building you can have A window air condition but it must be installed by building engineering. I don't know if you have to pay extra or not.
Doesn't Ontario have a standard lease? These shady self doctored leases are rendered invalid and the Ontario lease holds true.
Unless this landlord added this as an additional term in the standard lease
Some places charge $50 extra each month for air conditioning useage, or at least used to.
The new standard lease only has to be used if you rent a unit after a certain date, that said just because the lease they are using may be many years old doesn't necessarily mean the clauses will hold up if challenged. Not to mention if the landlord is ok with the AC units as long as the tenants pay extra during the months of use then an eviction notice based on willfull damage or some other such BS will have a hard time going anywhere. Can't say pay me extra I'm ok with it but don't and somehow you're causing damage that is grounds for eviction. Total absolute bull
“Self doctored”????????????????? Ontario does have a basic leases agreement available for landlords to start with but no “standard” lease could possibly be appropriate for all conditions. There are portions of that lease that can be changed to add or remove certain conditions, there are parts of that lease that are required by the province. The fact is, contrary to some politicians and many social organizations, landlords to have the right to put conditions in their leases - you don’t have to agree to them, you can always go elsewhere. The problem here is what landlords try to do to residents living under leases that do not have those conditions or moved in before those conditions were imposed. There is a possibility that they could claim a safety issue and ban people from hanging those window sill style air conditioners, but there isn’t much they could do to a person who already lived there and had a portable AC unit - assuming their lease didn’t have language in it.
my question would be did new owners buy the building ... was it really on the lease to pay extra or is it something the new owners have decided to add without the old tenants agreeing to it... only ask because new owners took over my daughters apt... she has lived there for 11 yrs had her portable air conditioner every yr (not the window one the one where you just put the tube out the window to vent not to drain) in all the 11 yrs she has lived there she has never pd extra for having one and never had to have a professional inspection of her placement of her hose - which is like the plastic ones used for dryers, in the window... they gave her and all the other grandfathered tenants a notice saying they had to pay out 150 for the air conditioner and they had to have a professional come in and install it... install what the plastic piece that goes in the window to hold the hose in place??? Many are saying they will not pay it... they would be more willing to pay just the 150 but when they also want you to pay for someone to come to your home and put a hose in your window (which when they came out with the letters, had already been in for a month) at a cost a 100 dollars... I just cannot fathom how they can get away with this...as it stands the tenants have not done anything but think in the end they may have to fight on this one... all the other tenants being demanded this treatment are also grandfathered and the ones in the building paying their own hydro do not have to have a professional come in and inspect the tube (window units where banned in her building five yrs ago they are all portable) so my thing is if they have gotten new owners of the building did they sign new leases or did the landlord just take over the leases as is and they are adding new clauses to the lease without the tenants agreeing to it
Debbie stop waiting on the world to stay put in 2011.
That may be the answer, a portable air conditioner. You don't need a professional installer for it. If some of the units have noisy window air conditioners some other tenants might be complaining about that issue. Looking at the pics all the air conditioners seem to be installed with a balcony so where is the safety issue?
he must be an environmentalist.
I pay my own electrical bill so the landlord doesn't care if I have A/C.
If these people don't pay their own electrical bill it's reasonable to charge an extra fee for those who have A/C.
It's included in the rent
@@marcforget33 As the news report states, the landlord isn't obligated to provide air conditioning. Therefore, if people want it, they have to pay for it.
@@mmmfloorpie They pay for it in the rent. It's not complicated buddy
@@mmmfloorpie The tenants need to seek “approval” from the landlord who bluntly said “no”.
ACs r a necessity in the summer! If u r a good tenant, and pay your rent in a timely manner, and keep the property clean, u should receive a letter from management, letting u know about any changes. Thry can't just throw u in the street. That is against the law! Fight it!
A lot of buildings charge for AC usage. Just pay it.
Pay extra for the unit. Fair enough
Are they doing it just to get the house extra cool or do they not Have central AC.. ? All houses get hot in the summer .. I live in a townhome . I didn’t get a portable AC until the central AC broke.. before that I just used fans
Do what the lord sais or else. such a great country we live in!
But you have no issue with electric company making bank right?
Figures.
@@KayJay940 This is not about the electric company making money this is about a tenant being able to chose how they feel in the home they are renting. Surely the landlord can come to an agreement with the tenants about this issue that is no do what I say or else. The landlord pay for the hydro so I can see the concern however this is Canada and we should at least be open to fair negotiation. People on fixed income such as the old who have worked their lives at least should be allowed some comfort in their retirement. Younger Canadians such as myself sure we can take the heat.
Could be that the current wiring in the building is not up to code for a window a/c. Plugging in an a/c that overloads the wiring could cause a fire.
What heck is wrong with this owner!!!
“Basic human right”
Then turn on and plug in everything you possibly can. Never shut anything off
I'm sure your paren- I mean, "land lord" wouldn't appreciate that.
How's the basement? Still got that wood paneling?? Lolol. Wana play sum COD? 😂
@@vegetablelasagna2684 I bought my first house when I was 21. I now own eleven and haven't worked in 20 years. Instead I let broke fools like you pay for my houses then sell em. I probably made more in the last five years than you will before you die.
Landlords or stratas who dont allow AC units should have to live in these suites during a heatwave. This is cruel.
It's common sense every apartment building charges more if you have an air conditioner for summer
Pay a little extra, everybody wins!
They cant do that lol these landlords jesus
They certainly are "turning up the heat" on anyone having an AC unit.
just say you removed it and the buy a divider for the balcony or something to cover the view
Smh. Landlords are stressing out.
Splurge a little for the portable ac.. they come with the window slide, you can’t see them from outside and you can roll it into a closet during inspections… this is what I have .. it was like $400 but you can find some for 200 something
This is truly brutal.. but why no “story” about how I have to pay a ton in electricity now cause of “green energy” for my AC since I own the house?
You can thank McGuinty for higher electrical costs.... and while you are at it, ask Doug Ford why he didn't do anything about Time of Use pricing and and the completely idiotic program McGuinty gave the green energy providers.
Because it’s not about YOU🙄
Did you know heating your home with electric is 100% efficient. All energy is used to produce heat. Unlike gas furnace which is like 80-90 efficient at best.
Because electricity costs SO much more no one in right mind would do so.