Great video Aaron! Victory Glass totally rocks. I'm a satisfied customer with the solid-state products I have bought so far. Kudos to your electrical engineers and designers!
Nice summary of all the tech you have available for that machine. I have been enjoying the SSA in my R. I use my box more often since it was installed.
For the Seeburg 222, the Amplifier is very similar, but the solid state Credit unit is an external and much simpler to install. We do not have a Tormat replacement yet, but those are much more reliable than the pinbanks. The 222 was a Tormat and the first stereo jukeboxes. But being the first the amp is quote the bear to rebuild, the solid state stereo amp SSA3 is the way to go.
A properly restored jukebox should work for years in a home environment. If you do this to your antique jukebox, you no longer have a collectable antique, you have a frankenstein jukebox. As any serious collector knows, the closer to original any collectable is, the better. If you want a jukebox with solid state amplifiers and control, buy a newer one. I personally own an M 100 C that I recapped 35 years ago. I have never had to do anything but replace the 6L6 output tubes. Once set up and adjusted correctly, they should run for years, unless abused. I just don't get this product and really don't want to knock it, as it looks thoroughly well thought out and constructed. It just seem to me that a through and complete restoration of the original electronics will result in years of enjoyment without damaging the value of these historic machines.
The amplifier can be quickly swapped between the original and solid state with no soldering at all. most our customers save the original in case someone with your feelings buys their box. but seriously, the wait list for someone to work on an amp is long and the people with the shills are retiring or no longer with us. these allow these boxes to remain in peoples houses and be used and loved for years to come. We heard the same thing with the model A cars, why do you have to hot rod them. Now look the majority of people want the hot rods and not an original model A. ITs a changing of way of thought, if you don't care for it, we commend you and your skill, please try and preserve your knowledge, pass it on , teach others, even start a youtube channel. You have a skill that was common that is not as much anymore. Please teach what you know, and lets together keep this hobby alive.
I agree that this does decrease the collectible value of the jukebox, but the good part is that at least the jukebox is now operating, and also, since these are basically drop in components, the original pinbanks, amp, etc. can be saved for someone who can rebuild them.
It decreases the value to someone like YOU. However, not everyone who purchases a jukebox does so because of its value as an original antique. People often purchase for the aesthetic value and the ability to listen to old music. I collect and restore antique radios and have sold more than one to wealthy people who wanted Bluetooth added. They care nothing about listening to AM or shortwave. They simply desire a piece of functional art they can listen to music on.
Curious why you don’t really seem to do a whole lot to the selection receiver side. As in rebuild it before plugging it in. Mine actually smokes from that side, the PO showed me exactly where it was frying. So needless to say it at least looks good setting there, but won’t be getting plugged in until I can have that side replaced or rebuilt.
On the pinbank models (M100A, M100B, M100C, HF100G, 100W, HF100R, and 100J), the selection receivers are very simple and usually all original components can remain in place. However, on the models with Tormat memory systems (Model V200 of 1955 and beyond), the selection receivers are much more complicated and will require a rebuild. But we are working on something to address those models as well.
@@victoryglass oh yeah, please do. I’m am not electrically talented, but I can change out parts very well.in the mean time, do you rebuild those original ones?
Our replacement CCU is free play only. It uses the same latch solenoid protection that our Free Play Adapters have had forever, where the latch solenoid is only energized after pressing a button. If only one button is pressed and the selection is not completed after about 12 seconds, the CCU releases the solenoid.
Great video Aaron! Victory Glass totally rocks. I'm a satisfied customer with the solid-state products I have bought so far. Kudos to your electrical engineers and designers!
Nice summary of all the tech you have available for that machine. I have been enjoying the SSA in my R. I use my box more often since it was installed.
Thanks, That's great, glad you're enjoying it. I too am using my Continental 2 more often.
Would you do a video like this for a Seeburg 222 ? Or is it all basically the same . Ty
For the Seeburg 222, the Amplifier is very similar, but the solid state Credit unit is an external and much simpler to install. We do not have a Tormat replacement yet, but those are much more reliable than the pinbanks. The 222 was a Tormat and the first stereo jukeboxes. But being the first the amp is quote the bear to rebuild, the solid state stereo amp SSA3 is the way to go.
@@victoryglass Thank you and keep up the good work!
A properly restored jukebox should work for years in a home environment. If you do this to your antique jukebox, you no longer have a collectable antique, you have a frankenstein jukebox. As any serious collector knows, the closer to original any collectable is, the better. If you want a jukebox with solid state amplifiers and control, buy a newer one. I personally own an M 100 C that I recapped 35 years ago. I have never had to do anything but replace the 6L6 output tubes. Once set up and adjusted correctly, they should run for years, unless abused. I just don't get this product and really don't want to knock it, as it looks thoroughly well thought out and constructed. It just seem to me that a through and complete restoration of the original electronics will result in years of enjoyment without damaging the value of these historic machines.
The amplifier can be quickly swapped between the original and solid state with no soldering at all. most our customers save the original in case someone with your feelings buys their box. but seriously, the wait list for someone to work on an amp is long and the people with the shills are retiring or no longer with us. these allow these boxes to remain in peoples houses and be used and loved for years to come. We heard the same thing with the model A cars, why do you have to hot rod them. Now look the majority of people want the hot rods and not an original model A. ITs a changing of way of thought, if you don't care for it, we commend you and your skill, please try and preserve your knowledge, pass it on , teach others, even start a youtube channel. You have a skill that was common that is not as much anymore. Please teach what you know, and lets together keep this hobby alive.
I agree that this does decrease the collectible value of the jukebox, but the good part is that at least the jukebox is now operating, and also, since these are basically drop in components, the original pinbanks, amp, etc. can be saved for someone who can rebuild them.
It decreases the value to someone like YOU. However, not everyone who purchases a jukebox does so because of its value as an original antique. People often purchase for the aesthetic value and the ability to listen to old music. I collect and restore antique radios and have sold more than one to wealthy people who wanted Bluetooth added. They care nothing about listening to AM or shortwave. They simply desire a piece of functional art they can listen to music on.
Curious why you don’t really seem to do a whole lot to the selection receiver side. As in rebuild it before plugging it in. Mine actually smokes from that side, the PO showed me exactly where it was frying. So needless to say it at least looks good setting there, but won’t be getting plugged in until I can have that side replaced or rebuilt.
On the pinbank models (M100A, M100B, M100C, HF100G, 100W, HF100R, and 100J), the selection receivers are very simple and usually all original components can remain in place. However, on the models with Tormat memory systems (Model V200 of 1955 and beyond), the selection receivers are much more complicated and will require a rebuild. But we are working on something to address those models as well.
@@victoryglass oh yeah, please do. I’m am not electrically talented, but I can change out parts very well.in the mean time, do you rebuild those original ones?
@@kevinvincent4323 what state are in you?
How much $ for all 3 ? Thanks
Thanks for your interest, you can check pricing and availability on victoryglass.com
I take it you didn’t reinstall the coin switch cable. Is it now free play? Is the keyboard latch solenoid continuously energized? TIA.
Our replacement CCU is free play only. It uses the same latch solenoid protection that our Free Play Adapters have had forever, where the latch solenoid is only energized after pressing a button. If only one button is pressed and the selection is not completed after about 12 seconds, the CCU releases the solenoid.
@@aaronschmitt539 Thanks Aaron.