Don't Use PAM On Your Snowblower: Here's Why
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ธ.ค. 2020
- One of the most common things people do to help their snow blowers perform better throughout the course of the winter is to apply PAM to the blades, under-carriage, and the discharge chute but in this video I explain how this is not helping the cause and is likely causing the removal of snow to be even harder and less efficient.
In this video explain that I use Clean Machine on my snowblower and I use the same product on my lawn mowers during the summer.
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For places that regularly get below 10 degrees through the winter then I suggest the following DuPont cold weather lubricant for snowblowers as it will remain slippery and viscous even in very cold outdoor conditions.
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THis should not have been a 13 minute video. There was maybe 3 minutes worth of (questionable) information in this video.
Well done- got 10 “ of snow last night- started watching this but by the time it was over my snow melted: thank you - saved my back 😎
Can't say I agree with this video. Lived in New England my whole life, always use Pam or some kind of cooking spray on my snow blowers and it works like a charm with no adverse effects.
You right , I'm from Canada use pam oil spray 25 years.
New England here, and I also can't agree with the video
Here's something I learned researching this subject. Works on snowblower with metal chutes. Make sure if u have any rust to sand it lightly until smooth/clean. Then BRUSH on oil base paint on at least the inside of the chute etc.. you can match the color paint. After that you can use ceramic coating as well.. this Idea of the oil base paint belongs to Donyboy73 the small engine Dr. Check out his Chanel he always has great tips.
Yeah I feel like even if the oils do solidify they're still slippery. It's like wax. It's a solid but it's still lubricating. I just bought my first snowblower, but I'll be giving it a try next time I use it.
Great information!
Most of all your audio was very good, you spoke clear and slow and there was NO background music to ruin it.
Thanks!
You saved me I almost used DW-40 Thanks 4 explaining the physics about friction free silicon in winter. ❄️
Great video again mister TurfMechanic. I have the old Ariens from 1958 they still doing they job.
Wow! 1958 is some serious longevity!
1958 = Made in the USA, Made in China = guaranteed junk.
@@Random-rt5ec yes is totally true. The new ones now the get on the top of the snow if you let snow accumulate
@@wilvertperez Excellent video - I watched because I just purchased a new Champion snowblower & am looking for ideas on how to prep & maintain it. I have some ceramic auto sealant that I think I will apply to the chute. My Champion is unfortunately (Made in China).
@@Random-rt5ec thanks so much. I always use premium gasoline for my and change the oil every season. I like you idea about the chute
I waxed my snow shovel last night. Thought about WD-40 but I'm sure the wax will be much better to help the snow release better.
I used Mother's CMX ceramic spray on my Ego 2 stage.
Hey!! That was great information.
You are right, lots of so called professional encourage using all the products you mentioned that one should not use. Very well explained and with great simplicity.
Thanks Kelly for the feedback! Been a while since I had a comment on my snow related material, I guess that means winter is coming lol. Thanks for watching! Glad you found it worth your time.
Car wax pre-season plus rub paraffin wax (canning supplies at the grocery) on the auger, impeller, housing and chute. Wet snow sucks down to completely slick surfaces so rubbed-on wax helps release it. Grease bolts and pivot points. Solvents like WD-40 remove oil and grease causing bearings to fail and steel to rust.
Thank you! Just received my new electric blower, i grew tired of gas, oil, disposing unused gas, maintenance etc.
Never knew anything about using lubricants for blowers, however I will begin now and use silicone! Love my WD tho.😁 Thanks again !
Sounds good.
Thank you 😊 have a wonderful one
Live in New England and on the first really big storm this year I sprayed-down the shoot and the entire box with Pam. Worked very well. The last storm, this past week, I used WD40. First a qualifier: my snowblower is an Aries 30” Professional Series, also, both storms were big (12+”) and fairly dry. My blower seemed to work very efficiently and I was very satisfied using either Pam or WD40. In the past I’ve tried silicone spray and was under-impressed. Obviously much has to do with how dry and dense the snowfall is. One question, you’re reference object I believe to be a plastic shoot and box, is this correct? The Ariens is a metal shoot and housing. Not sure if this makes a difference? Where’s the guy with the flame-thrower?? When is Spring???
Brian, thanks for talking about how to prevent snow buildup. I hope you’ll forgive a correction, please. In reviewing “Clean Machine” non-stick mower protectant, you incorrectly say that Teflon is silicone. Sorry, but Teflon is a fluoropolymer, different from silicone in several ways. Both do stay slippery in extreme cold, but a silicone-free, dry Teflon spray will be the better choice for this application.
Thanks a lot Alan! I'll look into that differentiation this week. I miss details from time to time despite lots of research and planning for each video.
I have an older Greenworks blower, not the Pro. I've never sprayed it with anything but was thinking about it today because the snow was very wet and kept clogging. I wasn't thinking of lubricant per se, but something hydrophobic so the wet snow wouldn't stick. I didn't, but I think I will try a vegetable oil based spray next time.
Okay, you’re actually making some valid points. Well done. Lol I’ll have to find something else.
Thanks Terance! Just stick with a dedicated cold weather lubricant or just use none at all - that's probably the short version of the video LOL. I appreciate your comments and feedback!
Just use rain x that is use on windshield or ceramic coating for cars
Very informative. Thanks.
Thank you. Very interesting and well done.
What are your thoughts about ceramic coating the impeller, augers/ housing and shoot? TY
Hello, I have a Greenworks blower. Mine has plastic auger blades. Did you retrofit yours with rubber ones? Thanks
I won't use Pam anymore after finding residue buildup. Had to clean up the mess and it did make a difference.. No more clogging up and throwing the snow further. Now I'm not sure if I'm ever going to use any of these spray products. Just have to wait and see.
The issue here is the host gets more powdery dry snow. Those of us where the snow is wet we use it not so much to throw snow faster, farther but to keep the chute from clogging. Personally I pre treat with graphite in the spring and use any spray handy if the snow seems to be clogging.
what are your thoughts on Ariens "SnowJet? no stick spray?
Can you tell what skid shoes you have on that blower . Please and thank you
Thank You. Great Video. How do you feel about using ceramic coating on the snowblower?
I paint my snowblowers, plows and shovels with tremclad clear gloss paint. Works great.
Slipplate might work well, too.
Been using Pam for over 15 years and it works great and no problems. So I think he just trying to sell us something that does the same job for more money. A Commercial!
Gas powered snow blower usually put off enough heat to keep the products viscous. Also it will protect against oxidation when they are stored!
I find that hard to believe as the engine in a single stage or two stage cannot possibly warm the chute and a two stage engine cannot possibly warm the auger and impeller.
Its why you dont pour grease don the sink. Liquid in the warmth of the house, but freezes in the cold of the pipes.
Sick patio
I use a prestone windshield deicer to make sure that all the ice and snow is melted of the auger before I use it again. W do you think ?
Off not of
A quality product that provides a slippery surface will work. I use any car wax/polish I have on had. Keeps the snow/slush moving and the machine will dry faster. Also do this to my sat dish.
I have two SnowJoe snowblowers which replaced my gas blower. Do I miss the gasoline stink and having to do a tuneup plus empty the tank each year? Naw.
For a few years I have used Dupont Snow & Ice teflon and silicone spray on both the 2 stage and single stage blowers. They improved what I do at least somewhat.
Hey Ken, once you go battery most people become converts quick. I'm gone battery for my lawnmowers, leaf blowers, string trimmers, snowblowers, and everything else. If I was regularly dealing with more than a foot of snow I might look at the gas machines but for my needs the single stage battery blower works like a a charm... and I agree, the snow/ice teflon product does help it out a bit. Nothing enormous but I do have less buildup on the machine when I spray it on before using it. Thanks for your input!
When New ... after you remove the spark plug (gas), or remove battery ( cordless), wax and polish all the surfaces (inside and out) of the snowblower with two coats of carnuba wax. Repeat every year. Waxing the machine allows you to examine the whole machine for loose/missing fasteners, cracks in the metal or plastic components, oil/seal leaks, teaches you pride of ownership and keeps the machine looking as close to new as possible. During Winter, between uses (using the same spark plug/battery removal precautions) apply a coating of paint surface protectant to periscope shoot and main scoop interior surfaces. If these components are metal, as the machine is used, the paint will eventually need paint touch ups. A good wax and grease remover should be used as recommended before sanding in preparing a repaint.The same wax and ongoing surface protection/maintainence should be applied to your riding mower, rototiller, lawnmower, tractor etc. All the waxing and buffing has the added advanage of making washing the machines easier. Best to You and Yours.
How about White lithium grease spray or PTFE spray? Will those gunk up in cold weather the same as the pam & wd40 type oils?
White Lithium grease will gunk up when cold.
get a case of silicone dry spray for a dollar a can. works great. temps here are below zero half the time so oil based products like PAM or veg. oil make sticking worse. spray paint snow blower at of season and put a layer of oil in impeller bottom. also use chain oil for your snow blower chain drive. lasts longer.
Maybe 45 yrs exp. W snowblowers. New England my whole life
I have never.. sprayed the chute ??
Man i love your analysis.
Great video but too long winded. Could've been done in 5-7min. Just get right to the product and move on
Next time I'll button it up a bit, thanks for watching and for your feedback!
I watched in 2x speed.
I use Ceramic coating. Do it once a season
I've always used WD40 and it works great. Theoretically, the issues might sound valid, but can't argue with success.
Can Pam replace my motor oils in my internal combustion car?
Been using 0w 20w synthetic in a old spray bottle without issue.
You have a deep understanding of the mechanics of lawncare much like your grandfather had of cars. He would rebuild an entire car every year. The guy who wrote the linux os would rewrite the entire operating system on weekends for fun.
Thats pretty cool.
😅😊
In really cold weather (praires) I would not recommend using any sort of spray, the really cold snow flies through my machine with no issues so I never use any lubricating products.
Ariens suggest WD40 or a good cooking spray. I use a cooking spray here in northern Idaho, that I store inside, and it works great. I don’t like breathing harsh chemicals if I don’t have to and whatever chemicals you spay will transfer to the snow you’re throwing that ultimately melts and seeps into your ground. Most TH-camrs take kickbacks from advertisers so don’t believe the hype.
Silicone for me. Been using it for years here in Wisconsin.
I spray pam on my blower before each use. Actually it’s the Kirkland version lol
The reason why I would use a water displacement on my snow blower is to prevent rust. I spray down my cables, the body, the metal shoot the auger the blades everything after each use after I clean my Snow blower and dry it in a heated garage. no rust and my cables and springs stay new. that is why it is not to make a plastic shoot slick.
Used PAM or equivalent for years...works great, so I really don't you know what you're talking about...
Use rust check or krown spray and you will never see rust also helps pick up snow instead of it sticking inside
As an automotive glass mechanic you learn very quickly to never ever use silicones of any kind on metals. It rapidly speeds up the rust process. We see it all the time where the owner has a wind or water leak and the reach for their caulk gun and pump it full of silicone and it works for a few months and then the leak gets really bad and they bring it to me and I remove that windshield/rear window to find the silicone has ate a hole right through the pinchwell, thus the reason we use urethane anywhere there’s going to be metal contact and doesn’t matter if it’s painted or not because silicone has a solvent in it just like WD40.
I use Sio2 aka ceramic coating and it lasts an entire winter and it’s completely unaffected by cold or heat but install it while it’s +50 F or warmer.
Silicone itself does not rust ferrous metals. In the cases where you are seeing rust-out with silicone application, it is due to people choosing "type 1" acid cured/catalyzed silicone sealant. If it smells like vinegar, don't use it on metal! Type 2, ammonia cured (aka neutral cure), is safe to use on metal and won't cause corrosion. Acid cure is typically the cheapest, which is probably why most applications you've seen have this issue. Neutral cure silicone is used successfully all the time in metal constructions (and even potting electronics circuits), so would be fine for your customers to use if they can't afford your services atm, just steer them away from the wrong type.
Thanks for these 2 comments. 40 plus years and I'm still learning!
This is one of those videos that kinda jerk my chain. Not because I don't like the content but because now I have to go out and clean the Pam off of my snowblower. At least give it a thorough wipe down. God d*****!!!!! Son of a b****!! Great video though. It makes a lot of sense and very well explained. Like why didn't I think of that?! I have also recently heard of ceramic coating. Any thoughts or experience with that? I'm especially interested in the spray on ceramic wax like what McGuire's has.
I use a ceramic wax used by ski lodges on their ampha cats during grooming
Happen to know the name of the wax?
I got it at o'reilly auto parts
@@jongipson1454 So, it's the only ceramic wax they carry?
Ceramic costing works best to be honest, but much more expensive.
How about snowboard or skateboard wax?
I'd have to research that but it sounds promising...certainly those products are designed to be used in cold temps.
Wax?
Sounds like a DuPont Corp. commercial🙃 Lots of snow wax available online....
Lol, if only dupont paid me 🤣 thanks for watching anyway
I paid to have mine powder coated, I had some rust
My God. This entire video could have been 90secs, tops.
If I redid this video I'd hack it way down; I've learned a lot about video making over the last couple years. Thanks for watching anyway.
Battery powered snowblower⁉️-Not here in Syberacuse‼️😂😂😂
Yep. Last year we had 42 inches in one storm in Binghamton. The battery ones wouldn't stand a chance.
Ha! I would just watch TH-cam vids for a few days waiting for a melt before taking my battery units out against 42 inches!
@Paco what's interesting to me with my use of a battery blower last year I saw better performance every time when the snow depth climbed to 6 inches, I never had more than 10 to try it on but it would work better in 5-7 inch powder than 2-3. These singe stage blowers seem fine for places that get light snow. I'm trying a different battery blower this year, still don't ever expect to see a foot of snow on the ground at any point so bigger two stage units still don't make sense for me and my property.
Thanks Paco, I gotta trust your opinion if you've used a wider variety of machines in different snow depths and consistencies! Every year we hope for more snow here and it's been light and dry for too many years in a row now. Last year we had an inch that came down that I dealt with using my leaf blower it was so dry. These shallow stuff is annoying because it turns to ice so easily but it looks like nothing after it accumulates.
If any of this stuff was any good the manufacturers would add it on the assembly line. Same goes for all those magic motor oil and gas treatment conconctions
Good video . Is your hat backwards ?
This is my favorite winter hat even though it looks silly, is it backwards? I don't know, this is how i wear it though because it functions the best like that for me. 😁 nothing like toasty head and ears even in the winter cold.
Armorall?
Lol, nice hat.
Right, extra virgin olive oil is so much better. Just make sure it is single country sourced.
I wish you'd talk MORE about what to use instead of constantly repeating the same thing about Pam and WD40.
Rain-ex?
Sorry, I live in Buffalo, NY and have used Pam forever. You get a build up of snow, clean it, hit it with Pam, and you can see the difference immediately. You want to make a real difference, install an Impeller Kit !
This whole video is to tell us WHAT TO USE!!! Without 40 minutes of WHAT NOT TO USE. I'm in Alaska and don't have time for dily dally videos. Need answers.
I’m all about saving the turtles and fish…. Pam it is
-- I use acrylic, but that's just me.
Wish I could get that blower or ego but couldn't 😔
No true, living in Quebec, Canada use Pam 25 years , spray in worm garage lets dry 10 min and go out to -20 newer had problem .two buck. Pam is better like using Teflon base lubricant and going eating yours cheap plastic parts . Now is 2022 and my yamaha two stage is ceramic coating protection . SECOND SEASON NO PROBLEMS .
This is not even a real snow blower.
Lol, snowblower snob I see 😁 this blower has worked really well for me for two years. Not everyone needs bigger gas two stage units. Hope you enjoy the rest of your winter!
By saying more toxic than Pam, do you realize your insinuating that Pam has some toxicity to it?
wax is what you use
Bakers joy is superior
Waaaayyyyy too wordy
Yep, sometimes I say too much. If I could tighten this video up after the fact I would. Thanks for watching anyway!
It's a snow thrower, not a snow blower. FYI.
I'll try to call it a snow flinger from now on...maybe a snow chucker ☺️
how come thry are advertised as snow blowers in stores…well everywhere ! lol…fyi
Oh boy. 🙄
Video is way too long saying the same thing over and over again.
Read the first three comments and gave up .
That's not a snowblower, that's a toy
It's a fun toy though 😁
@@TurfMechanic try ceramic coating under your blowers and mowers, very good stuff
Just buy a Husqvarna snow blower and you won't have any performance issues
@CJ Malone He's right.
Ariens snow blowers! Shoot the snow back to the clouds where it came from
@@tonyc7376 i doubt that
I don't doubt it, that's all opinion I guess, just like Ford vs. Chevy vs Dodge yada yada yada yadda some run good most run bad. When it comes to Husqvarna oh, I have no snowblower experience, but off road dirt bikes , chainsaw funny, so I won't really lock Husqvarna too much, but I've had plenty of other snow blowers and although they started and ran great, none of them blue smell like the Aaron's snow blowers that I've owned, I like chucking heavy wet slushy snow clear across the street into the neighbor's yard
@CJ Malone Definitely not a pro at the blow like yourself.
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WAX, that’s it. I use cheap furniture polish I get at the dollar store for a buck. It’s great for the snowblower and I use it to remove bug juice on my motorcycle and my helmet. Great stuff for a buck.
It's now the $1.25 store!!!
Please please get to the point!!
VERY LONG ADVERTISEMENTS!
Hmm, I have no control over that. :|
Way too long, to get questionable info, all while staring at that dumb hat.
i USE SLIP PLATE. grafite spraypaint. WORKS GOOD! EXPENSIVE BUT EFFECTIVE! Lasts a long time.