Marc B. First, thanks for watching the video! Second, it means a lot to hear you say that about the video! I’m aiming to TEACH people with every video I put out.
I'm really glad to hear that. My goal with this video wasn't to just show off my rig but to teach people how and why you may need to rig the camera. Feel free to join the Driven Films Discord server :) (Link in description)
Great video. Absolutely love your rig. I was wondering if it was a mistake listing the "Atomos Mini Coiled HDMI Cable" in the description. The Atmos Shinobi has a full sized HDMI in and the BMPCC 4k has a full sized HDMI out. Is there something I am missing? Thanks.
Definitely like the add-on/take-off option with the rail extensions. I went with Zacuto because the rods line up so much better and there's a direct connect versus using a "bridge" or adapter piece in between. Sometimes vibrations, especially from car mounts, can start to loosen things up.
@@joenicklohe’s asking how can you use the ssd and also connect the camera to the gimbal via usb to control it at the same time. And it’s not possible unless you have Bluetooth.
this was super helpful ! im working on building my second black magic build because the first was just super basic & practical but I noticed a lot of errors in mine mostly by not using the v mount batteries & a rail rod system
There are some parts that are NOT compatible, however most of the parts are compatible. The rods on both Tiltra and Smallrig systems are 15mm which is an industry standard so yes, the lens support will fit the Tilta rails. The same goes for other brands like Niceyrig, 8Sinn, Wooden Camera etc.,
Man Ive got nearly the identical rig. With exception of the Bight tangerine Matte Box. I went with a Fotga DP500 and works great. But that Saramonic wireless mic system is bar none as good as my Sennheiser. I Absolutely Love it. Great episode
Hey Pierre, thanks for stopping by. Check the link in the description for the cable I use. I included the Atomos brand cable but I've also included a much cheaper alternative with the Alvin's cables version. The Atomos version has a nice locking screw that prevents the cable from accidently coming unplugged, just like the wall outlet cable that comes w/ the Ninja V.
A 98Wh battery will only power the camera for 3-4 hours? I've heard people say that it will last the entire day. I'm saving up for a V-Loc battery, but should I instead go for something like a 150Wh or 195Wh?
This is a superb setup. Do you use the 14.8V on the P-Tap of the battery brick then straight to the 12V DC jack in the BMPCC4K? Or 8v from battery to a dummy battery? Last question; what’s safer for the camera - currently I am using a 14.8V P-Tap then straight to my BMPCC6K’s 12V DC jack (No LP-E6 batteries stuck inside the camera). The camera’s battery icon states that it’s receiving 15V. Will that damage the BMPCC 4K or 6K? Thanks!
I never use a dummy battery, I use the power port on the side of the camera and run into a D-Tap splitter, which is plugged into my V-Mount battery. I don't always use the splitter, but more often than not I do. Honestly, I don't know the answer to your second question! I think you should be ok but I'd email Blackmagic support.
Beautiful rig My question is does quality of a DTap cables matter. Because I heard that on Black Magic Design camera 6k they burn 🔥 out. Which D TAP cable do you recommend.
Hi, thanks for checking out the video. I've used these cables for over a year. Alvin's Cables D-Tap to 2.1V DC (for Atomos Monitors) geni.us/LJaBE Atomos Coiled D-Tap to 2.1V DC geni.us/U6gBf
@@joenicklo I just bought the blue version. Thanks for the reply. By the way which V mount plate and battery would you recommend to power the following. (CONTINUOUS POWER) -Blackmagic pocket 6k -Nucleus-M Wireless Lens Control System Partial Kit -Shinobi monitor 5"
Meike is a better lens in my experience. Better overall quality, no change in focus/iris gear location across the lineup, better construction and the lenses are all the same size, making it easier to switch lenses.
Love the setup! When powering both the monitor and the bmpcc from v mount, is there an order/recommended process to powering things on in a sequence to avoid any issues? love your content!!
Here's a bonus tip for the bonus tip....keep one of those allen keys from smallrig because, the allen key set from Husky does loosen over time. Just so happens that the allen key size that smallrig uses, is the size to tighten the Husky set ;)
Driven Films My BlackMagic 6k came in the mail yesterday and I was so excited and soon as I turned it on. It was everything I hoped for and then some. The quality is so nice
Bro, I could be totally wrong on this but I'm confident enough to type it. I'm pretty sure a hot shoe is one that communicates with the camera and a cold shoe is one that doesn't. The BMPCC doesn't have a hot shoe and it looks like the cage you're using doesn't either. Otherwise, great video.
great video! i myself also use the smallrig system💪🏼 question for the monitor, how are the colors on the monitor in comparison to the p4k monitor? i use the shinobi on my p4k and i find them so be very far apart colorwise.
Lee, I'm glad that I'm not the only one. I've found that both the Ninja V and the Shinobi look different than what I'm seeing on the P4K and even the P6K camera displays. That's DOES concern me, however I tend to use the monitors for their exposure tools. In the end, you can't trick a waveform monitor or a vectorscope, or focus peaking for that matter. Hope this helps!
Driven Films shiiiit ive heard this a few times myself, its really frustrating. and yea at the end of the day, waveforms, false colors etc will be our friends but maaaaan i just hate not seeing it accurately😫😫😫
I’m about 9 minutes in so maybe this is addressed. But do you power your monitor off the same Vmount as your camera? If so, you haven’t fried the hdmi port?
Hey, great video. Helps a lot especially us new BMPCC owners! So, I also have the Atomos V and I noticed you have 2 cables listed to power it from the battery. Which one do you recommend?
Hi lance glad you enjoyed the video. I listed two cables for two price points. I suggest the Atomos brand cable since it has the locking screw that will prevent it from accidentally coming unplugged. This is really important if you’re recording to the the ninja V (not something you’d do for the BMPCC).
Loved this vid! I am trying to connect an external monitor to my BMPCC 4k and I must be missing a step bc the image is not coming through. Works on my sony but not the 4k. Any advice? Thanks!
@@joenicklo I used this cable w a cam link and same cam over the weekend and a different cable & camera w this monitor. I’m gonna buy a new cable and see.
The big problem with any rig system is if you are the one pulling focus and not a 1st AC, then the focus wheel system is a nightmare given that you then only have ONE hand providing the main point of contact instead of being two hands. So other than a focus side handle, there really is no other way in that scenario at least.
@@joenicklo Tilta focus side handle. And attach that handle right on the side of your rig, it has a focus dial that you can turn while having a grip on the handle itself. Although yes, it is part of a follow focus system that is wireless.
So I couldn’t total it all up since prices have changed but including everything including the microphones, monitor, SSD....it’s around $2500 USD. This does not include the lens or the speedbooster. This may seem crazy considering the camera is only $1300 (or $2000 for a 6K) but I owned a lot of this stuff prior to buying the pocket 4K and also use it on other setups with higher end cameras.
Was waiting on this one. I film on a sigma 18-35mm. I was using it to film this video so it couldn’t be on the rig. Is that real enough or do I need a Cooke lens to justify the use of a matte box? ;)
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This wasn't just another check-out-my-rig video, but instead a primer on rigging with useful, concise explanations.
Marc B. First, thanks for watching the video! Second, it means a lot to hear you say that about the video! I’m aiming to TEACH people with every video I put out.
I've watched about 50 different bmpcc 4k rig builds by all of the biggest film TH-camrs. This is easily my favourite!
ha! Yes :) Thank you.
Your videos are so good. Thanks for uploading. Big fan
Thank you!!!
Absolutely fantastic overview of your setup! But... did you make this video specifically to make me jealous? 😅
Thanks man. 😂😂
This was a great informative video. I loved it.
Appreciate you watching!
Great content, as always.
Ty sir
small rig do sells that "custom Handle" i have it!! awesome Rig!! congrats!
Cristobal Landaeta they didn’t sell it at the time. The one they sell now has a different rubber texture.
@@joenicklo oh ok
Been enjoying your content. Thanks
Glad you enjoy it! Be sure to subscribe if you haven't.
Amazing video! I pretty much learned to rig from scratch thanks to you.
I'm really glad to hear that. My goal with this video wasn't to just show off my rig but to teach people how and why you may need to rig the camera. Feel free to join the Driven Films Discord server :) (Link in description)
I'm glad to find your video! Do you mind me asking what tripod you are using for the camera on this video?
Its the Sachtler Flowtech 75 tripod - geni.us/mAC6I
Great video!!
Glad you enjoyed it
Excellent as always
Thanks again!
Great stuff man!!
Thank you James!
Thank you ! This was a very informative video as the same of your other videos.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video. Absolutely love your rig. I was wondering if it was a mistake listing the "Atomos Mini Coiled HDMI Cable" in the description. The Atmos Shinobi has a full sized HDMI in and the BMPCC 4k has a full sized HDMI out. Is there something I am missing? Thanks.
Whoops! I linked the wrong one. Try now. I updated the link: geni.us/XBp6stR
@@joenicklo Wow didn't expect a response so quickly. Thanks for the clarification!
Great video brotha! Rig looks great too!
Thank you Mac!!!
Nice rig. Thanks for the tips
No problem 👍
Very nice set-up. Great video!
Appreciate the love.
This is an incredible video! Keep up the great work!
Appreciate you watching.
Amazing! I’m building mines out
Hancy Nunez awesome! Let me know if this tour gave you any help.
Man, I am so happy to have just discovered your channel, very inspiring and very useful !
Glad to hear it! Thanks for the support. Feel free to join my Discord channel discord.gg/AZwHku5
How is Tilta mini follow focus when using it on 200 degree focus ring of the lens?
Sorry, I don't really understand the question.
Driven Films I mean the follow focus is so small. I am not sure it is suitable for using long focus throw lens like 200 - 270 degree.
Warathanut S. Yes, that’s true. I haven’t used it in a bigger lens and probably wouldn’t. For the lenses I use, it works.
Nice build!
Thank you!
Liked very much👍
Thank you!
Have you not experienced any ground looping when connecting the camera and monitor through the dtap splitter?
Nope.
Great setup man.
Thanks!
hey, i saw your comment on Think Medias video and decided to stop by! Great content! Keep crushing it!
SIDE ADVICE hey! Appreciate the love!
Awesome video brothah. I learned a lot, in about to purchase my first cinema cam. BMP4K
Thanks for watching! Did you pick one up?
@@joenicklo I did and now I'm intimidated by this beast! This thing is scary good.
Definitely like the add-on/take-off option with the rail extensions. I went with Zacuto because the rods line up so much better and there's a direct connect versus using a "bridge" or adapter piece in between. Sometimes vibrations, especially from car mounts, can start to loosen things up.
You're right about the vibrations for sure. I'd like to move towards a unified baseplate system, such as the bright tangerine left field plates.
could you do me the biggest solid and link the zacuto base plate/ rods! Cheers
Hey buddy, top notch quality videos, you deserve much success with your channel !
Thanks a ton!
Very informative sir! Thank you! :)
Glad it was helpful!
where did you put the railblock?
The rear rails. I attached it to the cheeseplate.
Love the quick release system.
I'm all about QR systems!
your talking about the below battery with quick realease plate right
th-cam.com/video/ZkTsGR78Xq8/w-d-xo.html
Do you recommend the speed booster?
I absolutely do.
How will u connect the cable not to the gimbal while de ssd is in the slot?! Please someone give me an Idea? My panasonic only got one usb C
I try to keep the SSD mounted to the camera and just run the cable to it
@@joenicklohe’s asking how can you use the ssd and also connect the camera to the gimbal via usb to control it at the same time. And it’s not possible unless you have Bluetooth.
Ah I dont know then sadly. Maybe a splitter would work but I doubt it.
this was super helpful !
im working on building my second black magic build because the first was just super basic & practical but I noticed a lot of errors in mine mostly by not using the v mount batteries & a rail rod system
Heck yeah! Glad this helped you.
So tilta and smallrig parts are compatible/ interchangable? ie will a smallrig lens support fit on to tilta rails?
There are some parts that are NOT compatible, however most of the parts are compatible. The rods on both Tiltra and Smallrig systems are 15mm which is an industry standard so yes, the lens support will fit the Tilta rails. The same goes for other brands like Niceyrig, 8Sinn, Wooden Camera etc.,
@@joenicklo thanks for the info!
Man Ive got nearly the identical rig. With exception of the Bight tangerine Matte Box. I went with a Fotga DP500 and works great. But that Saramonic wireless mic system is bar none as good as my Sennheiser. I Absolutely Love it. Great episode
I'm surprised more people don't use the Saramonic set. It's not perfect but it gets the job done.
First time on this channel, very nice video. I have a very similar. Which cable to you use to power the ninja V when connected to your V-mount? Thanks
Hey Pierre, thanks for stopping by. Check the link in the description for the cable I use. I included the Atomos brand cable but I've also included a much cheaper alternative with the Alvin's cables version.
The Atomos version has a nice locking screw that prevents the cable from accidently coming unplugged, just like the wall outlet cable that comes w/ the Ninja V.
What's your Dji Ronin S setup like? Power, focus, etc?
John Markin stay tuned for that video! I plan on putting it out in a few weeks. Be sure to sub so you don’t miss it.
Very cool rig! You're right, a camera rig is very personalised. Loved hearing your explications on why you chose each part 👍
Thanks for watching.
A 98Wh battery will only power the camera for 3-4 hours? I've heard people say that it will last the entire day. I'm saving up for a V-Loc battery, but should I instead go for something like a 150Wh or 195Wh?
To be able to use just one battery for an entire day, that is
I’m powering the monitor and the battery at 100% brightness on both.
@@joenicklo I see, but that's what I will end up doing a lot too, I guess. Thanks for the info!
This is a superb setup. Do
you use the 14.8V on the P-Tap of the battery brick then straight to the 12V DC jack in the BMPCC4K? Or 8v from battery to a dummy battery?
Last question; what’s safer for the camera - currently I am using a 14.8V P-Tap then straight to my BMPCC6K’s 12V DC jack (No LP-E6 batteries stuck inside the camera). The camera’s battery icon states that it’s receiving 15V. Will that damage the BMPCC 4K or 6K? Thanks!
I never use a dummy battery, I use the power port on the side of the camera and run into a D-Tap splitter, which is plugged into my V-Mount battery. I don't always use the splitter, but more often than not I do.
Honestly, I don't know the answer to your second question! I think you should be ok but I'd email Blackmagic support.
Driven Films thanks for your feedback 👍🏽
Beautiful rig My question is does quality of a DTap cables matter. Because I heard that on Black Magic Design camera 6k they burn 🔥 out. Which D TAP cable do you recommend.
Hi, thanks for checking out the video. I've used these cables for over a year. Alvin's Cables D-Tap to 2.1V DC (for Atomos Monitors) geni.us/LJaBE
Atomos Coiled D-Tap to 2.1V DC geni.us/U6gBf
@@joenicklo now which do you use to power Blackmagic camera 4k or 6k.
@@RedEyeJedigaming Oh I'm sorry I linked the wrong one. I use this one to power the camera: geni.us/QV2NKR
I have the black version though.
@@joenicklo I just bought the blue version. Thanks for the reply. By the way which V mount plate and battery would you recommend to power the following. (CONTINUOUS POWER)
-Blackmagic pocket 6k
-Nucleus-M Wireless Lens Control System Partial Kit
-Shinobi monitor 5"
@@RedEyeJedigaming I personally like Core batteries. For a plate, you can go with the Tilta.
geni.us/P6ULLE
How are you doing sir, between the rokinon and the meike cine lens which will you recommend for the blackmagic pocket cinema 4k thanks.
Meike is a better lens in my experience. Better overall quality, no change in focus/iris gear location across the lineup, better construction and the lenses are all the same size, making it easier to switch lenses.
Do you use a dummy battery w/the core power base? TY
You can. I didn't though.
What cage system do you use for your Blackmagic Pocket Cinema 4K or 6K?
Can't afford one so I 3d printed a bracket for my sansung t5, and that's it!
Tilta
You can’t go wrong with the Tilta system
Great video. Thx✌🏾
Appreciate you watching it
What tripod are you using ? I have a 11.5 lb rig.. I need a good heavy duty tripod
Sachtler Flowtech 75 with the FSB4 head
Love the setup! When powering both the monitor and the bmpcc from v mount, is there an order/recommended process to powering things on in a sequence to avoid any issues? love your content!!
No order you need to follow, but you definitely want to make sure you’re using quality cables and a good v-mount.
Great tips on building a rig. I like th Alan key idea
Here's a bonus tip for the bonus tip....keep one of those allen keys from smallrig because, the allen key set from Husky does loosen over time. Just so happens that the allen key size that smallrig uses, is the size to tighten the Husky set ;)
Nice rig, looks like it’s got a nice weight to it
David Doperoy I should weigh it shouldn’t I?
Driven Films lol as long as it feels good in the hand brotha 🤙🏾
Yep! It’s got a good feel to me. Like I said at the end of the video, everyone’s different so I encourage people to try different setups.
Driven Films yeah, I’ve got a G2 and just picked up a 6k for a b-cam. Waiting for parts. I’ll be happy to start building
That’s the left-right knockout combo right there!
How does that FSB-4 hold up with the weight of that rig?
If balanced properly it’s fine. The only FSB-4 payload is almost 9lbs. The rig isn’t all that heavy. I do plan on upgrading the head though.
Can you use a rokinon lens for the 6k version?
as long as it's an EF mount, yes.
Driven Films My BlackMagic 6k came in the mail yesterday and I was so excited and soon as I turned it on. It was everything I hoped for and then some. The quality is so nice
Bro, I could be totally wrong on this but I'm confident enough to type it. I'm pretty sure a hot shoe is one that communicates with the camera and a cold shoe is one that doesn't. The BMPCC doesn't have a hot shoe and it looks like the cage you're using doesn't either. Otherwise, great video.
You’re 100% correct, I just always call them hot shoes without thinking, I figured most people know what I was saying, so I didn’t re-record.
@@joenicklo Thanks for the reply. I wouldn't re-record it either. Again, I really dug the video. Not trying to be 'that guy'. I swear.
@@JJKoester Don't sweat it, I took no offense. :) Glad you enjoyed the video. Did you see the run & gun version video I did?
great video! i myself also use the smallrig system💪🏼 question for the monitor, how are the colors on the monitor in comparison to the p4k monitor? i use the shinobi on my
p4k and i find them so be very far apart colorwise.
Lee, I'm glad that I'm not the only one. I've found that both the Ninja V and the Shinobi look different than what I'm seeing on the P4K and even the P6K camera displays. That's DOES concern me, however I tend to use the monitors for their exposure tools. In the end, you can't trick a waveform monitor or a vectorscope, or focus peaking for that matter. Hope this helps!
Driven Films shiiiit ive heard this a few times myself, its really frustrating. and yea at the end of the day, waveforms, false colors etc will be our friends but maaaaan i just hate not seeing it accurately😫😫😫
@@leedonohue ya know, I wonder...would the Blackmagic Video Assist be a better option? Hmm.
Driven Films thats a VERY good question🧐 i mean it seems logical, but i dont think ive seen that set-up on YT yet.. maybe thats worth finding out
@@leedonohue I'm going to reach out to Blackmagic to see if they can lend a hand with one for a review. Wont get my hopes up though!
What video cables do you recommend
Alvin's Cables: geni.us/rfC0
I’m about 9 minutes in so maybe this is addressed. But do you power your monitor off the same Vmount as your camera? If so, you haven’t fried the hdmi port?
Correct. I haven’t fried my HDMI port.
Hey, great video. Helps a lot especially us new BMPCC owners! So, I also have the Atomos V and I noticed you have 2 cables listed to power it from the battery. Which one do you recommend?
Hi lance glad you enjoyed the video. I listed two cables for two price points. I suggest the Atomos brand cable since it has the locking screw that will prevent it from accidentally coming unplugged. This is really important if you’re recording to the the ninja V (not something you’d do for the BMPCC).
Loved this vid! I am trying to connect an external monitor to my BMPCC 4k and I must be missing a step bc the image is not coming through. Works on my sony but not the 4k. Any advice? Thanks!
Can you test different HDMI cables?
@@joenicklo I used this cable w a cam link and same cam over the weekend and a different cable & camera w this monitor. I’m gonna buy a new cable and see.
How much does everything combined cost? Thank you
I’d have to go back and add it all up...been a while.
The big problem with any rig system is if you are the one pulling focus and not a 1st AC, then the focus wheel system is a nightmare given that you then only have ONE hand providing the main point of contact instead of being two hands. So other than a focus side handle, there really is no other way in that scenario at least.
Agreed, but if you're filming solo...what else can you do?
@@joenicklo Tilta focus side handle. And attach that handle right on the side of your rig, it has a focus dial that you can turn while having a grip on the handle itself. Although yes, it is part of a follow focus system that is wireless.
That makes the rig extremely wide. Not a fan.
Hello. Your link to the follow focus is incorrect
Whoops! Thank you for letting me know. I fixed it but here you go! amzn.to/2zyKcA0
Great video man. I’m looking forward to getting a Pocket 4K soon. You kept saying “hot shoe mount” am I crazy or are these cold shoe mounts?
Thanks for watching. Yes they are considered cold shoe. One of my earlier videos where I sucked at remembering my script :D
Brother amazing video. Most people I know want to know the average cost please share some thoughts in video. Thank you very much
Next rig tour I do I'll include pricing.
I would hope that anyone with a rig like that wouldn't be worried about the cost of velcro straps!
😂😂😂
I’m went with tilta.
Hancy Nunez you cant go wrong with the Tilta system. I love how it has the integrated 90 degree hdmi adapter.
that's a flex.
Which part? :D
@@joenicklo all of it. esp. the matte box. i went with the tilta mini.
@@saviwaves5337 Well, not sure how its a flex ;) It's a good mix of budget friendly parts and higher end parts.
Total Cost for the entire set up including camera and lens?
I try not to add up my purchases...I'd probably have serious buyer's remorse.
I wanted to get a rig if they made a small one for my Nikon.
Which camera model?
Driven Films a Nikon d3400
@@tjs_cam www.amazon.com/SmallRig-VersaFrame-Canon-Camera-Middle/dp/B07CZ5NZ82?ref_=ast_sto_dp
Whats the total weight of the rig like?
I'll put in on the scale the next time I rig it up!
Totally price? Without camera of course
I'll need to start adding it up. Did you see my minimalist rig video yet?
So I couldn’t total it all up since prices have changed but including everything including the microphones, monitor, SSD....it’s around $2500 USD. This does not include the lens or the speedbooster. This may seem crazy considering the camera is only $1300 (or $2000 for a 6K) but I owned a lot of this stuff prior to buying the pocket 4K and also use it on other setups with higher end cameras.
total cost of camera rig ?
Haven't added it up. Sorry.
👍🏼
Hey hey!
Rig Grimes
What’s that mean?
I am such a fool. I've been using this cage for over two years now and had no idea it had built in NATO rails.
It's certainly a nice touch by Smallrig.
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500$ mattebox and using a 300$ Rokinon?! Get some glass dude...real glass!
Was waiting on this one. I film on a sigma 18-35mm. I was using it to film this video so it couldn’t be on the rig. Is that real enough or do I need a Cooke lens to justify the use of a matte box? ;)
Big jealous
Hello, amazing video! Question about the rokinon cine lens. Is it sharp wide open with the speedbooster? Thank you!
No, wide open they're very soft. Especially towards the outer edges of the frame.