Sorry you couldn't get anyone to volunteer to move those bales to the back. I got quite a chuckle when you panned around to see if anyone would help. We had little round 60lb bales when I was growing up on the farm. It was a Allis Chalmers small round baler. We could leave them in the field and not worry about the rain. Keep the video's coming.
It is amazing that the Knotters work as well as they do, given the dirty dusty conditions that they operate in. Great shots of them working by the way....
I haven’t raked hay in 40 years. Used to help out a neighbor cut with the classic sickle bar mower, rake with a ground driven side delivery rake and then he’d have a buddy come in and round bale it since his old Massey Ferg 65 didn’t have enough poop for a round baler.
Cool camera angle next to the chute on the baler. My worst memories are of bailing wire hay bales on a hot July day-probably some of my fondest also. We used to challenge each other to see who could stack them the highest on the rack. My brother-in-law tossed a couple on top of a stack of 10 high. My record 9 high.
been a member of the HPOCA for a long time just found your channel and I enjoy it you have great knowledge and history of olivers keep it up I own an oliver 77 row crop but I love the four digits the most awesome tractors
I always throw around thirty on the wagon then stop and stack ten in the front where the thrower won't put them, ten in the back to soften the landing, and the others near the back. I check tension and weight, and just make sure I don't forget how to throw them as alzheimer's approaches.
My dad was thinking about getting a wheel rake to replace our old steel wheeled conventional rake. The Oliver dealer showed up in the field we were raking, with the wheel rake behind his truck. He made a couple of rounds, and my dad bought it on the spot. It definitely reduced raking time.
I've got a Gehl V rake that can really cover some ground with mini damage to the hay. I was going to get my Oliver parallel bar rake out for this, but I knew I didn't have the time wirh everything going on that day.
Funny story about our 2150. My grandfather always wanted to ted hay with it. Said it rode smooth is the reason he used it. I think he was scared he needed some extra horsepower.
It’s interesting to see how different hay is baled up north as compared to how it is done here in Oklahoma. Nobody ever used any kind of a bale thrower or pulled a wagon behind for that matter. They always just let the bales lay on the ground then load them onto a truck to haul them in.
I'm guessing you had a ways to haul them back to the farmstead? It's usually a race against the weather around here and the hay field usually isn't far from the barn.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris just a little north into Kansas we hand threw them into a pickup in small fields. We took the sides off the grain truck or used a flat bed trailer and used a bale elevator. Then the hauling crews with a hay monster were popular before the round balers came around. Lots of worn out backs and heat stroke in those days! Every now and then square bales got wet in the field… Farms used to have a twine or wire mound around an old windmill but now the round bale twine just ends up in the roadside ditches after it blows off the back of a feed truck.
I think it's because of the amount of rain we get up here. One little spot of bad luck and a weeks worth of haying is put to waste because the pennsylvania weather decided to rain unexpectedly
You can't beat Oliver equipment several people around my are they run them all the time baling hay and everything else they definitely made the best farm equipment in the forties fifties and sixties they are always ahead of the other tractor especially John Deere over and under best rear ends and Transmissions I do like International do have a John Deere Oliver's were a beast got a 88 working on getting a 18:55 Waukesha was one of the best engine back in its day they just got a bad rap on the turbo 1855 oil capacity Cooling you can't blame it on the engine they were a beast best sounding get her done Chris
Those 310s are a good engine. If they had made just a few modifications. They were pinching pennies, but ended up stepping over dollars to pick up a dime.
We have a New Idea wheel rake like that one. I assumed that New Idea made them since I never saw another company have them. Ours had fiberboard circles to cover the wheels. We ordered a 6th wheel from New Idea. This was through our AC dealer in Republic, Ohio, Hartsel Implement.
Been years since we have square baled. I never baled with a belt thrower, only with a JD pan style kicker. I always figured that you could get more bales on aload with a kicker due to how the bales go through the air. Don't know for sure.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Just like McDonald’s ice cream machines. Why does Arby’s and Wendy’s never say “our machine is down”? That’s because they are using machines designed about the time your baler was. Simple, robust, maintainable. It’s just hay (ice cream). We’re not trying to land the Space Shuttle.
I’m cutting the second cut today. I hope the rain holds off for a while after so it doesn’t rot! The weather people/service have no idea what’s going to happen. I also think I’m in a micro climate as in what is forecasted 10 kms from here doesn’t effect me or vise versa.
I live in a unique area for weather. I've seen many a storm split as it gets near us. Sometimes it's good when it takes damaging winds and tornadoes with it, but bad if it takes the rain.
Those knotters look exactly like the ones on our Deere 336, are most square bale knotters the same? (Maybe you know) Super looks good working 👍 I do like the O-D-U for baling
They're all made under the same patent. New Holland knotters will drop in, but you'd have to do both sides because they cut their keyway 180 degrees off from the Oliver. Deere bill hooks will work in the 720, but they have a slightly larger shaft so the holes in the frame have to be drilled out.
Never even knew that Oliver made small square balers - seems to be doing a pretty good job, despite its age. The front wheels on that tractor look too small for it, and the front axle spindles look a bit weak.
Hi Chris, still loving the videos :-) Mr Cake has been musing and wondering if you could get some apparel set up that has a vintage Oliver logo that includes a reference to you and your Dad's old tractor business? I'm sure that many of your followers would like to keep the memories of the old business alive, just like you. It'll be too late for Father's Day over here, but I'd love to get him one for his birthday (October) ;-) Thanks again for the great vids
I do have this shirt I recently created that kinda fits that bill. All of the tractors on the back are from the collection, and the logo on the front was created using one of our old dealership decals. chris-losey.creator-spring.com/listing/losey-s-home-for-wayward-olive?product=2 You did give me an idea to run with though, using some old pictures from the dealership. Thank you for that, I'll see what I can come up with. I'm also working with Doug Nelson again for a Shirt design to go with the purple 1850, but that's probably a month or 2 down the road at this point.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris sounds great :-) thanks for the reply. I'll check out the link, and look forward to future "old" style Tees, as well as a Purple "Herman-alike" ;-)
@@ThatOliverGuyChris got the "Wayward Olver" T for anniversary, and it arrived in time :-) excellent quality and Mr Cake's worn it a lot. Just ordered a sticker for his work diary cover - go Herman :-) (and thank you for using (Tee) Spring to make them, they do a good job and are quick to make and post)
@@mrscake1687 Awesome! Thank you for your order! I just made a new one that has the 1850 on it. It's a pink shirt and it says "This shirt is pink. The tractor is purple." It should be in today's mail. I'm excited to see how it turned out! I might have to wear it for the 4th of July parade
@@ThatOliverGuyChris ha ha that's awesome too! should cause a stir :-D but it's a cool tractor. You gotta wear it when you drive it :-D AND Happy 4th July when we get to it
Excellent placement of the camera. Some people make a complete video talking into the camera or moving it but still in their hand. Not you Chris! Chris where are your tennis shoes?? Did you move into the Croc fad? I use this darn crocs all summer!
That’s some really nice vintage Oliver equipment you got there Chris! I could actually hear the belt slipping on the bale thrower in the video definitely once but I think twice I heard it. Love that 2050. What are you running for a yield monitor on the baler tractor😂
There's a counter on the baler that monitors yield. While editing I could hear the belt chirp as each bale launched. I normally have a crescent wrench on that tractor, but not that day.
Oliver was a leader when it came to styling. I've seen mockup pictures of some the other stylings they were considering for different models, they put a lot of consideration in the sheet metal and general appearance. The styling of the 66 gave way to the open panels like on the Super 88 because of serviceability and cooling. Many farmers would take the side panels off models like the 66 to make maintenance easier and to allow more air flow off the radiator. Those side panels eventually rusted from sitting in the dirt, or got ruin when someone backed into them with a wagon, so a good pair can bring decent money, especially the diesel side panels like the 66 has.
Your line of Oliver equipment is impressive. Was any of your Oliver equipment bought new by your family and passed down to you, or is it just equipment you've bought at sales over the years? I wish I still had some of our old Case tractors that my Grampa had bought new, that I grew up running. The only thing I still have that we bought new when I was a kid is our Case 1816c skidsteer. I still use it, but its on its last leg, and I'm going to have to put a new engine in it at some point real soon. How its still running at all is amazing, with as many hours as its got on it and the fact that my brother inlaw and sister borrowed it several years back and ran it out of oil.
A lot of our equipment was stuff we bought new, or things we sold new. We were also an Oliver dealer starting around 1937 through 1998. The Super 88 in this video was bought new by my dad from our dealership, as was the baler and running gears under the wagons. I bought the 66 just a few years ago, and I've had the Oliver rake for about a decade. The 2050 I found for sale in a local farm paper somewhere around 20 years ago.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris, now I see why you have so much Oliver equipment on your farm. That's neat that you were a Oliver dealer for all those years. There use to be some Oliver guys around here, way back when I was a kid. But once White bought Oliver, most guys switched to Case, IH, or Deere's around here. When I was really young we had a Oliver combine, but I can't remember what the number was. I wish I could, but the only pic I have of it don't show the number unfortunately.
Great video as always, I was cutting hay with my supper 55 this morning and the pto won’t shut off now just replaced the pto clutch this winter would you have any idea what that would be thanks worked fine till today.
There's not much you can do from the outside on those pto units. I'd guess either something broke in there or the clutch discs warped. Stiff lever sounds like warped steel discs or rhe fiber discs broke up and are jammed in there.
I sell the square bales to a gal that has horses just down the road. Some of the rounds are going to the local FFA chapter for their sheep projects, some go to a local beef producer, and I try to keep my brother's alpaca, goats and cattle fed as well.
That 2050 is just the holy grail of Oliver tractors in my opinion! Such a cool tractor!
I know I say this alot, but it's one of my favorites. The sound of that engine is awesome.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris It does sound fantastic, even without a turbo!
Sorry you couldn't get anyone to volunteer to move those bales to the back. I got quite a chuckle when you panned around to see if anyone would help. We had little round 60lb bales when I was growing up on the farm. It was a Allis Chalmers small round baler. We could leave them in the field and not worry about the rain. Keep the video's coming.
It is amazing that the Knotters work as well as they do, given the dirty dusty conditions that they operate in. Great shots of them working by the way....
Many thanks!
Row crop to wind row that made total sense. Great all round video bro. Safe travels
Thanks!
I haven’t raked hay in 40 years. Used to help out a neighbor cut with the classic sickle bar mower, rake with a ground driven side delivery rake and then he’d have a buddy come in and round bale it since his old Massey Ferg 65 didn’t have enough poop for a round baler.
All the fun!! Good to see you got it all in before the rain!! wagon hustling 👍
Thanks Ed!
I love old equipment, love watching them work
Fond memories of stacking bales on a flat bed wagon. Contest to see who could do the best job of holding the load together to get to the barn.
Cool camera angle next to the chute on the baler. My worst memories are of bailing wire hay bales on a hot July day-probably some of my fondest also. We used to challenge each other to see who could stack them the highest on the rack. My brother-in-law tossed a couple on top of a stack of 10 high. My record 9 high.
Those wheel type rakes were radical back then. Now almost all are. We still have a John Deere bar side delivery rake for balling waterways.
been a member of the HPOCA for a long time just found your channel and I enjoy it you have great knowledge and history of olivers keep it up I own an oliver 77 row crop but I love the four digits the most awesome tractors
Thanks for watching!
I think you did a great job with the camera, I especially liked the slow motion knotter part
Thank you very much. Good camera work takes time that i could be getting hay baled, so it's nice to be appreciated.
I always throw around thirty on the wagon then stop and stack ten in the front where the thrower won't put them, ten in the back to soften the landing, and the others near the back. I check tension and weight, and just make sure I don't forget how to throw them as alzheimer's approaches.
Double clutchin into road gear. NICE
Slow motion knotter was great
I wish you would shoe us the engine and talk about it , brings back memories .
I'll try to do that next time.
My dad was thinking about getting a wheel rake to replace our old steel wheeled conventional rake. The Oliver dealer showed up in the field we were raking, with the wheel rake behind his truck. He made a couple of rounds, and my dad bought it on the spot. It definitely reduced raking time.
I've got a Gehl V rake that can really cover some ground with mini damage to the hay. I was going to get my Oliver parallel bar rake out for this, but I knew I didn't have the time wirh everything going on that day.
Funny story about our 2150. My grandfather always wanted to ted hay with it. Said it rode smooth is the reason he used it. I think he was scared he needed some extra horsepower.
That's funny. I've raked with my 1800 fwa. The big front wheels roll over the bumps and holes a lot better.
“Collecting the wagon in style.” You bet!!
Like the 2050 too, don’t see many of them!
Hey Chris, it would be great if you could do a equipment tour of your hay equipment and give us a backstory about Oliver and it’s haying line.
I do need to cover the hay equipment. I'll try to get that done in the near future.
It’s interesting to see how different hay is baled up north as compared to how it is done here in Oklahoma. Nobody ever used any kind of a bale thrower or pulled a wagon behind for that matter. They always just let the bales lay on the ground then load them onto a truck to haul them in.
I'm guessing you had a ways to haul them back to the farmstead? It's usually a race against the weather around here and the hay field usually isn't far from the barn.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris just a little north into Kansas we hand threw them into a pickup in small fields. We took the sides off the grain truck or used a flat bed trailer and used a bale elevator. Then the hauling crews with a hay monster were popular before the round balers came around. Lots of worn out backs and heat stroke in those days! Every now and then square bales got wet in the field…
Farms used to have a twine or wire mound around an old windmill but now the round bale twine just ends up in the roadside ditches after it blows off the back of a feed truck.
I think it's because of the amount of rain we get up here. One little spot of bad luck and a weeks worth of haying is put to waste because the pennsylvania weather decided to rain unexpectedly
You can't beat Oliver equipment several people around my are they run them all the time baling hay and everything else they definitely made the best farm equipment in the forties fifties and sixties they are always ahead of the other tractor especially John Deere over and under best rear ends and Transmissions I do like International do have a John Deere Oliver's were a beast got a 88 working on getting a 18:55 Waukesha was one of the best engine back in its day they just got a bad rap on the turbo 1855 oil capacity Cooling you can't blame it on the engine they were a beast best sounding get her done Chris
Those 310s are a good engine. If they had made just a few modifications. They were pinching pennies, but ended up stepping over dollars to pick up a dime.
Like always, great video
Thank you!
Thanks Chris enjoyed. Baled many a load with same model tractor and baler. Best small bale baler made including New Holland and I like them too.
I would be happy to help you move those bales, it's just a very long walk from the Netherlands.
If you walk that far, I'll let you drive and I'll move the bales.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris :-D :-D
@@ThatOliverGuyChris if I walked that far I’d wanna be leaving on a tractor of my choice lol
We have a New Idea wheel rake like that one. I assumed that New Idea made them since I never saw another company have them. Ours had fiberboard circles to cover the wheels. We ordered a 6th wheel from New Idea. This was through our AC dealer in Republic, Ohio, Hartsel Implement.
The old wheel rakes in my area are called Farmhand.
@@randykroells8049 I mean that style of rake. I have seen Farmhand rakes and they were a little different in the hitch and the wheel.
Great video and camera angles, Chris!!! I just subscribed.
Thanks for the sub!
Really nice Super 88!
Thanks!
Been years since we have square baled. I never baled with a belt thrower, only with a JD pan style kicker. I always figured that you could get more bales on aload with a kicker due to how the bales go through the air. Don't know for sure.
I've often wondered if the landed flatter with a kicker.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris I think so. There are videos of those kickers in action if you want to see for yourself.
I still say baler knotters work on voodoo. Those old engineers were some pretty smart fellows.
If the knotter was designed from scratch today, there would be servos, solenoids, sensors, and software. one bad ground and it would all quit working.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Just like McDonald’s ice cream machines. Why does Arby’s and Wendy’s never say “our machine is down”? That’s because they are using machines designed about the time your baler was. Simple, robust, maintainable. It’s just hay (ice cream). We’re not trying to land the Space Shuttle.
@@chrisbeck8182 Exactly!
There is an 720 in a fence row next to my grandfathers old farm with duals on the plunger side. I always wondered if duals was a factory option.
Yes it was. If I remember right, the outer wheel was a little smaller than the inner.
I’m cutting the second cut today. I hope the rain holds off for a while after so it doesn’t rot! The weather people/service have no idea what’s going to happen. I also think I’m in a micro climate as in what is forecasted 10 kms from here doesn’t effect me or vise versa.
I live in a unique area for weather. I've seen many a storm split as it gets near us. Sometimes it's good when it takes damaging winds and tornadoes with it, but bad if it takes the rain.
Those knotters look exactly like the ones on our Deere 336, are most square bale knotters the same? (Maybe you know) Super looks good working 👍
I do like the O-D-U for baling
They're all made under the same patent. New Holland knotters will drop in, but you'd have to do both sides because they cut their keyway 180 degrees off from the Oliver. Deere bill hooks will work in the 720, but they have a slightly larger shaft so the holes in the frame have to be drilled out.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris can’t make the parts interchangeable 😂
It's the whole can I copy your homework? Sure, just change it up so it's not obvious you copied.
You've got some nice stuff I got Oliver's too how many Oliver's you got
I think it's 40 now.
Never even knew that Oliver made small square balers - seems to be doing a pretty good job, despite its age. The front wheels on that tractor look too small for it, and the front axle spindles look a bit weak.
Hi Chris, still loving the videos :-) Mr Cake has been musing and wondering if you could get some apparel set up that has a vintage Oliver logo that includes a reference to you and your Dad's old tractor business? I'm sure that many of your followers would like to keep the memories of the old business alive, just like you. It'll be too late for Father's Day over here, but I'd love to get him one for his birthday (October) ;-) Thanks again for the great vids
I do have this shirt I recently created that kinda fits that bill. All of the tractors on the back are from the collection, and the logo on the front was created using one of our old dealership decals. chris-losey.creator-spring.com/listing/losey-s-home-for-wayward-olive?product=2
You did give me an idea to run with though, using some old pictures from the dealership. Thank you for that, I'll see what I can come up with. I'm also working with Doug Nelson again for a Shirt design to go with the purple 1850, but that's probably a month or 2 down the road at this point.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris sounds great :-) thanks for the reply. I'll check out the link, and look forward to future "old" style Tees, as well as a Purple "Herman-alike" ;-)
@@ThatOliverGuyChris got the "Wayward Olver" T for anniversary, and it arrived in time :-) excellent quality and Mr Cake's worn it a lot. Just ordered a sticker for his work diary cover - go Herman :-) (and thank you for using (Tee) Spring to make them, they do a good job and are quick to make and post)
@@mrscake1687 Awesome! Thank you for your order! I just made a new one that has the 1850 on it. It's a pink shirt and it says "This shirt is pink. The tractor is purple." It should be in today's mail. I'm excited to see how it turned out! I might have to wear it for the 4th of July parade
@@ThatOliverGuyChris ha ha that's awesome too! should cause a stir :-D but it's a cool tractor. You gotta wear it when you drive it :-D AND Happy 4th July when we get to it
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I was going to dig the 660 out for you, but time got tight. I'll get it out for second cut.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris hay waits for nobody.
66 was still a good choice.
Excellent placement of the camera. Some people make a complete video talking into the camera or moving it but still in their hand. Not you Chris! Chris where are your tennis shoes?? Did you move into the Croc fad? I use this darn crocs all summer!
It's croc season! I almost lost one in the wagon when I climbed in there to throw bales to the back. They definitely keep the feet cool!
That’s some really nice vintage Oliver equipment you got there Chris! I could actually hear the belt slipping on the bale thrower in the video definitely once but I think twice I heard it. Love that 2050. What are you running for a yield monitor on the baler tractor😂
There's a counter on the baler that monitors yield. While editing I could hear the belt chirp as each bale launched. I normally have a crescent wrench on that tractor, but not that day.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris that’s a good point there is a Bale counter
@@Adam_Poirier And if I watch the video footage, I can imagine a field map showing where the best hay was.
Yep really remember how it was done kp luck Wisconsin 1976
I saw an ad for a late model 770 with four forward gears and four reverse? Have you ever seen one or know why they made them?
I never have seen one in person, and couple online. I think it was for produce farmers, but honestly, I'm not sure how they utilized it.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris It might have also been for loader work.
Tractors of this era didn’t have side covers on the motor. I think only Oliver? This has to help noise.
Oliver was a leader when it came to styling. I've seen mockup pictures of some the other stylings they were considering for different models, they put a lot of consideration in the sheet metal and general appearance. The styling of the 66 gave way to the open panels like on the Super 88 because of serviceability and cooling. Many farmers would take the side panels off models like the 66 to make maintenance easier and to allow more air flow off the radiator. Those side panels eventually rusted from sitting in the dirt, or got ruin when someone backed into them with a wagon, so a good pair can bring decent money, especially the diesel side panels like the 66 has.
Your line of Oliver equipment is impressive. Was any of your Oliver equipment bought new by your family and passed down to you, or is it just equipment you've bought at sales over the years? I wish I still had some of our old Case tractors that my Grampa had bought new, that I grew up running. The only thing I still have that we bought new when I was a kid is our Case 1816c skidsteer. I still use it, but its on its last leg, and I'm going to have to put a new engine in it at some point real soon. How its still running at all is amazing, with as many hours as its got on it and the fact that my brother inlaw and sister borrowed it several years back and ran it out of oil.
A lot of our equipment was stuff we bought new, or things we sold new. We were also an Oliver dealer starting around 1937 through 1998. The Super 88 in this video was bought new by my dad from our dealership, as was the baler and running gears under the wagons. I bought the 66 just a few years ago, and I've had the Oliver rake for about a decade. The 2050 I found for sale in a local farm paper somewhere around 20 years ago.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris, now I see why you have so much Oliver equipment on your farm. That's neat that you were a Oliver dealer for all those years. There use to be some Oliver guys around here, way back when I was a kid. But once White bought Oliver, most guys switched to Case, IH, or Deere's around here. When I was really young we had a Oliver combine, but I can't remember what the number was. I wish I could, but the only pic I have of it don't show the number unfortunately.
Great video as always, I was cutting hay with my supper 55 this morning and the pto won’t shut off now just replaced the pto clutch this winter would you have any idea what that would be thanks worked fine till today.
Does it still snap in and out like normal?
No the lever is tite
There's not much you can do from the outside on those pto units. I'd guess either something broke in there or the clutch discs warped. Stiff lever sounds like warped steel discs or rhe fiber discs broke up and are jammed in there.
That was one of my less favorite jobs round bales were more fun
What do you do with the Hay you make?
I sell the square bales to a gal that has horses just down the road. Some of the rounds are going to the local FFA chapter for their sheep projects, some go to a local beef producer, and I try to keep my brother's alpaca, goats and cattle fed as well.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Nice love your videos
Thank you!
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