Ferrari 488 GTB | evo REVIEW
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- Can Ferrari's new 488 GTB match the brilliant F40 and stunning 458 Speciale? Jethro Bovingdon drives all three to discover if Ferrari has created another masterpiece.
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F40 has such a presence on the road even today, what a legend.
SoCalFreelance yeah way to go Ferrari, back to turbocharged v8, which made the F40 such an indomitable beast that beat every car through the 80s and 90s. Twin turbo for life buddy! That means real super power!
SoCalFreelance its last Ferrari made by ENZO FERRARI,and the best ever for sure.It was made of carbon fiber in 80s with 2.9l and 500hp
Montenegro Montenegrin If i may,it's Kevlar mostly used for the F40 and also carbon fiber parts,like the aileron,but the floors,hood,roof,doors,engine bay, are made of Kevlar,I do not know the percentage.
SoCalFreelance I came to this review for the 488, I stayed for the F40. Still the best recipe for uber sportscars is a stripped-out proper race derived platform, with an astonishing engine to match. And for some reason I just love small displacement V8 engines, they just have character to them that is lot in the bigger ones. In a small V8 every .1 of a liter counts, with big ones you can go for 5.7 or 6.5 or even 7.0 and won't feel the big difference. And the sound, much more defined in the smaller ones!
+SoCalFreelance Yup, too bad they're going for over a million these days..
I like how he just casually gets into an f40 and starts ripping it
While carrying on a conversation, no less.
that was a beautiful shot...rear driver side 3/4.....and you see just how low it is to the ground.
That shot of the boost coming on in the F40 is incredible
I just love the way EVO videos look like a big budget film.
There are some contradictions. This 488 is not here to replace the Speciale, but the 458. The Speciale is a tuned 458. Does he not think they will make a 488 Speciale?
Getting out of a Speciale, then adding electric steering, turbos and more power, the new Ferrari will drive much differently. Just making a sports car faster doesn't mean you make it better. Great sports cars connect with the driver perfectly, and the new tech remove that connection for higher power and efficiency. You give something to get something. Personally, I'd take less raw power, for a better connection to the driver any day.
Evander Smart Yeah the 488GTB is here to replace the 458, not the speciale (he said that in the vid doe), but the thing that will replace the Speciale will have Challenge Stradale, Scud, and Speciale philosophy and is likely to not be called 488 Speciale (like we don't have 458 Scud and F430 CS).
For the second part, well, Ferrari can make a Twin Turbo flatplane V8 car, because the F40 was so good, we can't judge them for that. It's not the case of the V12 doe. To me they've actually made a proper beast with this one, and it's insanely quick. It does sound really good too, and it's more livable for everyday driving. Also the throttle response is said to be awesome, and the car is lighter than the special. It's a complete winner to me. And well, the numbers don't lie.
He said on e thing, but he spent the whole video comparing the tuner to the stock car. So either he's contradicting himself, or comparing the wrong cars. Either way, he's screwing up the video.
And the 488 doesn't sound very good at all, compared to the other special Ferraris, or other sports cars. Very few turbo sports cars have great engine notes. An advantage of a naturally-aspirated engine.
Evander Smart Well to me it sounds pretty good. I mean compared to the 458 it doesn't sound that much worse. The 458 has a loud and flat sound, in fact, nothing really special. It's on par with the 458, and they gently "added" some turbo wistle, which is nice.
Well in fact, in the sport/Supercar world, most of them actually sound good. I mean most are discussed just because they are turbocharged. Some NA don't sound that good (like the RC F) but it's ok just because they are NA, while most Turbo are said to sound like shit when they actually sound good (911 Turbo S and M3/M4 F8x coming now in my mind).
Try to find really shitty Turbo Supercar sounds, you'll have a bad time.
You have a point that the 488 is the Italia equivalent, but Jethro does admit that. His argument is that previously when Ferrari has updated this platform (360, 430, 458) the improvement has been so substantial that the new model was even better than the Speciale spec of the predecessor. In this case the numbers are better but the experience isn't, in his opinion. I wouldn't mind if someone offered the keys for a test drive though!
totally agree with you... and I m not shocked to see that of the 3 cars tested the F40 is still the Queen !
Amazing car, far better than the Huracan, looks far better, this has the power but it has the chassis and handling that can utilise the 661hp properly, no big understeer.
Экспертное Подразделение Диванных Войск! The awd huracan understeer, the 458 and the 488 don't. Plus awd means more moving parts so more time to launch, plus the huracan is n/a, the 488 is turbo with small turbos so instant response compared to the huracan
xXGamerCroateXx the hurancan hit 60 in 2.5
Экспертное Подразделение Диванных Войск! I wrote understeer just because it does I'm not saying one car is better than the other, the 488 is great and so is the Lamborghini. I'm just saying that they both have disadvantages and avantages. Of course you love what you buy I'm not trying to convince anyone of buying one car rather than another one
The fezza looks generic as fuck and the effort to copy the nose of an f1 car cheapens it, like if a kid designed it. Say what you will about the Huracan but inside and outside it looks much much better and interesting.
Sandouras The Huracan (at the rear at least) looks hideous. The front looks good, the drivetrain was taken off the Audi R8 and it understeers like a pig. It's a good car but not better than the 488.
that f40 moment made me switch from phone to tv :D !
This was the best review out of all 488 GTB reviews I have seen so far. Great work and editing, EVO.
I think it was wrong to compare the 488 GTB to the F40 & the Speciale. Each generation of the 8 cylinder Ferraris has a high performance car...360 Challenge Straddle, 430 Scuderia, & 458 Speciale which are not in the same category as the GTB. this car should be tested against the 458 Italia which it replaces. I'm sure I don't need to even say why its wrong to compare it to the F40.
That is probably his last review of a Ferrari ever.,, Not saying he did a bad job, he did say the truth, but you know how Ferrari deal with that...
***** The hell you're talking about? He gave this car five star rating!
And it's logical that turbocharged car will never be so fantastic, emotional, raw and puristic as the pinnacle of all supercars - the 458 with the best naturally aspirated V8 in the world. However, Ferrari again made the benchmark supercar with the 488 as it clearly seems.
They are saying wat a fuck boy we told to said nice things nt bad things 😂😂
Radek Vinš Ya, and what happend to Chris Harris?
Good point! And is this stock? I've lost virtually all trust and respect for Ferrari.
Paul McGuire That's funny - Ferrari doesn't give a shi* about what you think :)
All review Ferrari cars were stock.
Well they certainly did a better job with the noise than McLaren have with their turbocharged engines
haha! No. I prefer a lovely deep growling V8 than a weak and veeery flat V8 sound. No way the 488 sounds better. They tried to make it sound NA and thats were they went wrong.
XTrEmEr23 I think the P1 sounds amazing though. It's not musical, but very dramatic
XTrEmEr23 both the 12C and 650S have a unique, interesting V8 sound. The 488 has the same engine note as the 458, just more quiet and dull. Ferrari has done a crappy job here.
+stoneeh
Absolutely right
+stoneeh mclaren just sound industrial like a skyline or a tuned supra....
Fantastic review! It really shows the passion by the driver, and it was very informative. I watch several tv shows and other youtube reviewers but EVO does it like no one. Congrats!
Chris Harris gives the most exciting reviews but I feel like Jethro gives the more honest reviews. The Speciale & F40 in this video are amazing! The 488 I'm sure is fantastic but visually & acoustically leaves me with a dull feeling as opposed to the intense emotion I get every time I see and hear a Speciale or F40.
SoCalSupercars Let's face it: this engine sounds like shit. Just as the McLaren 12C and 650S do. To be honest, I think the AMG GT, with basically the same engine configuration, sounds way better.
SoCalSupercars yep.. from the footage alone we can sense that the 488 is not as exciting as recent other Ferraris.. or even very old Ferraris. Still, Harris wants to sell it to us as just as exciting. He is a salesman, that's all he is.
SoCalSupercars Yep. I just realized that my 458 went UP in value. the 488 seems like an awesome car but I think people buy ferraris for the excitement.. and turbos, despite all the new gadgets to make it seem more naturally aspeirated, still take away from it
SoCalSupercars Yep. I just realized that my 458 went UP in value. the 488 seems like an awesome car but I think people buy ferraris for the excitement.. and turbos, despite all the new gadgets to make it seem more naturally aspeirated, still take away from it
SoCalSupercars Nah, the 458 is Indeed VERY BEAUTIFUL but its design has started to look dated.
i cant stoo replaying the begging . sounds so clean omg
Jethro and Chris are the best definitely. I love how Jethro give us some additional feedback by doing a brief review of the previous generations. Congratulations EVO!
Great review guys! Loved this even with the slightly poorer camera work ;)
love the constant smile on his face as he drives the f40, I think that's a feeling everyone here would like to experience
The videography at 8:16 is just stunning! Great video!
Best review yet. Keep up the good work!
I cant even find the right words to say how amazing this video was.. And to see the 458S and F40 was a true surprise. Thank you Evo.
I think Ferarri have given us the 488 too soon. The 458 is still the benchmark sportscar especially the Speciale. Let people still enjoy the 458. Have Ferrari shot themselves in the foot here?
stoppsi And due to the extra 100bhp they've had to soften up the rear, has this taken the edge off the excitement?
stoppsi I think the reason they did this is to keep up with the competition, especially mclaren. This is Ferrari's way to pressure Mclaren and keep the upperhand
stoppsi Ferrari always introduces new V8 supercar after 5-6 years...it's tradition.
Like ppl can can affordnthese cears lol
+Marc Jacobs maybe not now, but think about how many successful people out there started with a dream and a poster of a Ferrari F40 on their wall. You find motivation in what you love, and with that maybe you too can one day afford this car :)
Just a sick car, sick. Great great presentation, good comparing to the 458 and F40 and actually driving those cars during the comparison, just great.
This is why I subscribe to Evo Magazine. Keep up the brilliant videos
Awesome! One of the best videos from you guys! Greetings from Brazil!
Such a great video, how does this not have more views?
I just need a channel with Jethro and Harris reviewing cars together.
So true
Me too
Anyone else think that 661 hp is insane for a midrange supercar?
Well when the step above midrange is the LaFerrari, I wouldn't say so. And this is coming from a feel over power purist
I think they have gone a bit too far into f12 territory.... 660 seems a bit too much for frankly a 458 replacement
Hunter Folan It's actually a low range supercar in the ferrari lineup, there's the F12 with 730hp and the FF putting out more or less this hp with all wheel drive (of sorts). And of course high end these days means 1k hp. It's not that insane, a Porsche 911 turbo is pushing 550hp with much better traction and 4v4. Probably faster than this thing at half the price or something. And you have sedans pushing nearly this hp, and of course electric 5 seaters almost hitting 700hp. When the horsepower wars supposedly ended i think someone forgot to send the memo to the engineers.
Ferrari had to put that much power to offset turbo lag
I prefer feel over power too. That's why I like Porsches. They don't have insane hp but really good driving feel.
By far the best 488 GTB review!
I agree!
TD94S Not convinced its the best review, I've seen F40 and Speciale videos, I just wanted more of the 488, 5 mins was all we got, I prefer Chris Harris's review, it was longer factual and he wasn't 100% sold on the 488, but admired it.
I would have liked more on the 488 , bad video or not. Just saying that's all.
I prefer the looks over the 458, the side intakes make it so much better looking. Anyway nice car
stevewashere100 Completely agree with you!
Pulled out all the stops with this review, absolutely nailed it!
Great video! 488 looks are growing on me. The 458 is a very hard car to replace!
Best review of the lot by far. Great job.
So as we all know, TH-cam is a place where we kind of share our opinions in the comment section. Since I think that things grow by sharing, here's mine, if you'd like to read it (if don't, don't bother) :
So, Jethro, not the worst day at work ever, eh?
Anyway, let's set back to the F40. The F40 was some kind of challenge made to see how many horsepowers its wheels could put down, on a 1100kg diet. It turned out they could put out quite a lot of power (and even more, officiously). Everyone who gets behind this car's wheel seems to have the time of their life.
Since this car, we've seen the V8 mid engined Ferraris from the 348, first Ferrari produced "Enzo Ferrari Post Mortem", also considered as "Ferrari's worst car ever" (I own one, and have driven several recent Ferrari s, and I think it is a relatively sensational car). We've then had the 355, judged as "the best car in the world" back in the day. The 360 Modena was a leap forward in terms of technology. It was the first "reliable and usable" V8 Ferrari, and it had a plus in its second gen F1 gearbox. The F430 was, according to me, the last real one. It was still available with the proper manual gearbox, had a wonderful chassis, e-diff, engine, the interior was getting better (not 458 quality, but still much, much better than a 360). The 458, which is one of the rare V8 Ferrari s I haven't driven, looks like a wonderful car to drive, but it looks like it is losing more and more of its innocence. The car is doing more and more for the driving, which doesn't involve you as much as the other cars used to. The 488 is just getting worse ! Apparently, as explained in the video, if you want to oversteer, but you don't know how to, it does it all for you. When I oversteer, I like to do it all myself, it is so much more rewarding !
Last thing :
The sounds used to be very bad. On the 308 and 328, the engines sounded like 4 cylinders. The 348, unless you put a stainless straight on it, didn't sound much better (just for the story, there was a very rare optional extra on the 348 which is a Ferrari Factory Stainless Steel Exhaust, which the first owner of my copy had the wonderful idea to fit. Very few of them were fitted with this extra). The 355, 360 and F430 all sounded amazing. Then came out the 458, and everyone said it sounded amazing. I don't... It sounds like a very well tuned 4 cylinder, it doesn't have that high formula one racer pitch the other ones used to have. And once more, the 488 isn't doing any better.
Basically, Ferrari is being more and more user friendly. This isn't a good thing. It used to be a brand that addressed only to people who have a driving know how. Cars in which you got in and couldn't even drive if you didn't know how to DRIVE A FERRARI. Unfortunately, this good era is well over, now their latest cars are doing all the work for you.
Greetings from France,
Nico
Damn Jethro! You can drive man! Those shots at the end are epic!!
Can't wait for the Magazine cover feature! Brilliant review.
Really is something special. Nobody can do it like Ferrari!
Great video, one of the best I saw from Jethro Bovingdon, on a par with Chris Harris´s work.
Love the brief 458 Speciale and F40 intros!
The most realistic 488 review on youtube
Excellent, excellent review Jethro!
Best 488 review of all so far!
this is one of the if not the best review video of the 488
Cool explanations!!
Supercool! We hope to test one 488 GTB soon!
I absolutely love the different angles damn
The addition of 160 lb/ft of torque is huge. Torque is a number that most don't seem to care about, or understand. It's what allows you to pull away without thinking about downshifting. This alone will take seconds (not tenths) off of lap times. And all that is provided by those turbochargers.
No sir, power/weight ratio is what makes a car accelerate quicker and reach higher top speeds. Torque is propably the most overrated specification when talkning about cars. It's true that torque is a twisting force that is responsible for making a vehicle move. However, power is defined by this formula:
*P* *=* *ω* *** *M*
Which means that the greater the RPM's (ω, symbol for radians/sec) and the greater the torque (M), the more horsepower you'll have. In other words, it's work done over time a.k.a torque done over time. Think about it this way. If a car makes 300 Nm (221 ft lb) and redlines at 1000 RPM, it's making about 43 HP. Now, if you have another vehicle with the same weight, body and torque, but instead with a redline of 9000 RPM, your engine will produce 300 Nm (221 ft lb) 9 times as much in the same period of time as the other engine. In other words, your engine produces a greater work done over time (aka horsepower). The engine would therefore make 385 HP (and if you divide 385 HP with 9, you'll end up with 43 HP as well).
Torque is simply overrated, because people fail to realize that RPM's can be converted into torque, by using higher gear ratios (like an F1 car), which is why P/W ratio is the ultimate factor for acceleration and top speed (if we don't include drag)
Vethursan + 1000!!!!.....well said and TOTALLY agree. Although the Bugatti Veyron and its variants are torque beasts plus you loose about 20% of the hp and ft. lbs. going to the driveshafs and transfer case on RWD/4WD-AWD cars....so while manufacturers state these numbers, they don't specify how much of the power(hp/ft. lbs) is really being put down on the asphalt....so take away bout 20% is a good average or have the car dyno tested to get a true hp/ft. lbs.
***** Exactly
Well the 488 and 458 rev similar enough, and weigh similar so yes the torque is a massive difference.. don't know why that massive rant above was needed? You can't tell me that a car with 500nm revving 9000rpm is better than a car with 750nm revving 8000rpm..
Great review 💪🏽
Great video as always chaps (albeit with a lot of stock factory footage) but why the continual speciale comparison ??? This is the base car not a limited numbers more focused track orientated special.
Check the size of Jethro's grin in that F40. Great video.
Evo and Jethro are getting stronger and stronger each video. I never thought I'd say this, but Harris has something to worry about now. For the second time now I prefer an Evo video to a Chris Harris one. 991 GT3 RS and 488 GTB reviews were better IMO. Top work guys! Keep it going! Just try to make the videos a little bit longer if you may.
Jethro, it doesn't sound as ferocious as Speciale or 458 because it only revs to 8000 and not 9000 rpm as the other cars. Also it's the replacement for 458 and not Speciale. There will be as sharper version of this later on, as you mentioned at the end.
One important issue most car journalist miss is the actual reason why Ferrari had to go turbo. With 458 and later Speciale Ferrari had worlds highest hp/L output of any sports car with NA engine, even beating Porsche. That is engineering at very high level. But it was never enough as all the competition had to do was to add even bigger turbos or superchargers in their efforts to beat Ferrari.
We all know who they are. I blame them for rubbing us of the wonderful NA engines in Ferrari cars and maybe even Porsche. I think it should be mentioned and not only the emissions which is always mentioned as the only reason.
bezor Ta totally agree with you
bezor Ta
Actually it's not just the lower redline. The exhaust gas pressure is what drives the turbo so by the time they reach the exhaust tip they're moving a lot slower than they would in a naturally aspirated car. That's why you get that turbo growl even in very high-revving turbo engines like modern F1.
+Fast Er Porsche 918 - 132bhp/L. Ferrari 458 Speciale 127bhp/L.
the 458 is not at hypercar level though. very understandable
He said hp/l for a NA car.. not any car. The 918 is turbo charged and hybrid..
Alright, Jethro Rocks! More Jethro EVO!
you guys make awesome videos
Wasn t this the review of the Ferrari 488 GTB?! I have been watching this video for about 5 minutes and the 488 was shown once. GG
best 488 review mu opinion - love it
Get well soon Sam!!! You do great filming!!!
Jethro's face while driving the F40. I'd be grinning like a fool too.
Great film!
this might be one of the best video car tests ever
That s the review I wanted to see from CH. You cannot speak about Ferrari and turbo without considering the F40 (and the 288 GTO). Epic review thx for sharing! A new era for Ferrari and as always they are not disappointing anyone. But... but... the only Ferrari with turbos to me will always be the F40.
nice review
That drone footage at 0:50 was also on Chris Harris' video. I presume that's stock footage given to all motoring journalists then?
The aerial footage 50 seconds in is used in the Chris Harris video too, who shot it originally?
I think people are missing the point of this video. The 488 is the next step on from the 458. The latter of which being a car with as much soul as you can possibly get from any car. However they had the F40 in the video because that was what old school turbocharging was all about. Sure it may have had a tonne of lag but it still had character. If the 488 was done right, it should have been the new generation F40.
turboman1505
Well said.
Such a great video.
Evo's pulled everyone else's pants down with this review. The best 488 review out there by a huge margin. The Speciale of 488 reviews ;) Awesome job. What a car though. 488 as a daily driver, Speciale for weekends and trackdays. Euromillions here we come!
Emotions is what people are looking for in a special car on special days. 488GTB delivers that? Im not sure.
have you ever driven a 488? i think not. i havent too, but i saw some 488s and are pretty moved by them.
excellent , Jethro !
Loved how Jethro was able to drive the speciale and the F40 alongside the 488, but the on board footage near the end of the clip seemed over-cropped. Just some unfortunate angles I suppose.
Nice review..:)
This guy and Chris Harris just offer the best reviews in my opinion. The Motor Trend reviews with lap times are impressive too.
Two best Ferraris and the new one nice video :)
nice to hear some-one honest about the turbos. ive always thought if your gonna do turbos make them a feature, like the f40- like old audis or the ruf yellowbird or even 911turbos. turbo lag is part of the experience surley
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Geesch....that 488 is an absolute beauty! I think its Ferrari's best to date! I'll take mine in Corso Red too please!
Not sure if you read/reply to these, but I'd be curious to know which transition to turbo you found more disappointing--this or the M3/M4
The 458 Speciale is history in motion. The pinnacle of NA sportscars.
Also, what kind of orangutan designed the F40's seat and wheel position?
Lol what? The 458 Speciale sounds crap compared to the 430 scuderia, F430 and the Challenge Stadale. So.. hell no.
Jort Rinket
Those cars might be more exciting than the Speciale, that's an opinion. But they're not better. I'm talking about 50-100 years in the future here, when people look back then they'll say the Speciale was one of the last, and one of the absolute best.
Italians characteristically have a different body type and build than the rest of the world, a lot of peoples qualms with older Ferraris is the driving position, but it is just the way the Italian designers felt comfortable in the car themselves.
c0c0asauce Also known as Jeremy Clarkson..
Hey guys I dont know much about cars but I love watching gt racing. Will this 488 take over where ferrari is using the 458? Gt series etc?
Proper review
i NEED this background music! pls help! =)
I like how he couldn't stop grinning while driving the F40. This is the dream car of my childhood and I still like it and want to drive it desperately.
When is jethro going to test the laferrari?, since carlos lago from motortrend has already test it twice, the second time with real numbers. It would be nice to see him behind the wheel of a laferrari since he has also tested the p1 and 918 spyder.
Are those variable geometry turbos or not?
A friend of mine has just brought a 488, incredible performance and I don't think I've been in anything faster and drop dead gorgeous looks, in fact there's nothing I don't like about it BUT 4 weeks in and it's broken down 3 times already and he use's it every day, when it works....He's not best pleased for his 170k!
I guess it is better to compare 488 to the Italia...probably a 488 Speciale will compare better with the 458 speciale in the future....Lets hope it pushes the bar even further
What an unfair analysis of the 488, you said it yourself it replaces the 458, how is it comparatively to the 458? Because when they make a 488 Scuderia or Speciale, then you can compare it to that. This didnt replace the Speciale it replaced the 458.
He keeps on comparing it with the 458 Speciale.. for some reason. The 'Speciale' version of 488, is going to be out of this world.
Nothing more to say than......Thank you Evo, thank you....
Outstanding presentation, sick camerman and all. Even better than the CH spot, imho.
That 458S footy was some straight-up, no-panty XXX pourrrrrn...xoP
Jethro looked ecstatic in the speciale, happy in the f40 and analytical in the 488....
Wow, as much as I geek out on all the F40s facts and stats... I never realised the steering wheel was angled to such an extreme. Very much like a go-kart!
Thank you for the first proper review of the car. I don't need Chris Harris' glowing apologism, or Autocar's honest, but short and boring review. I was counting on either you, or Carlos Lago, or Steve Sutcliffe, to do a proper job - and you delivered.
That speciale on the overrun tho👌
Can anyone tell me what the sound effect/music that they use from 0:48 - 0:53
Some of the exact same footage is in James May's test of the 488 GTB... suspicious...
ellieisfit15 And from Chris Harris. They're probably from a "free standing" photographer/Ferrari themselves.
It said in the video that Evo's usual film guy was ill at time of filming. Guess they used someone else's for this.
I commented before that part lol...
Nothing wrong with them collaborating though :)
What sections?
Cavscout101 I recognized a couple of the shots from the track, around 25 sec in, from Chris Harris video. Especially the areal shot.
I couldn't understand if you said you liked the Huracan's 8500rpm sound better, or the 488GTBs? U said it was 'no contest' but Im not sure which one you meant you preferred? Anyone help? It's at 9:25 - 9:45
The huracan
Does anyone know the track that is being played at 3:51?
8:17 what a shot!
I don't know why people are complaining about the sound. I think it is quite impressive what Ferrari has done here. But still prefering their V12 though.
Couldn't watch past the 76th glottal stop. Nice review of the F40 and Speciale however ;)
Does anyone know the name of the song at 9:10 ?
Sounds so good 😫😫
the f40 is something wonderful, it'll always be a legendary car long after this new 488 is forgotten.600 horses with a proper manual tranmission amazing!
The guy reviewing it was on about the precision - typical Ferrari behaviour leaving a bit back from the standard car so they can have a bit of growing room for the lightweight special editions which invariably come later. 360 > 360 CS, 430 > 430 scuderia, 458 > speciale etc. If they released the final balls to the wall track model on day one, there would be nothing to roll out in a couple of years time when they need something quicker to trouble the competitors efforts.
I personally like the Italia more. I don't like that big vent on the side split in two. While it sounds amazing and looks like it drives amazing i'm not feeling the vibe most people are having.