Hopefully the same with me, but I would like to know exactly what emissions I'm putting out. It would be interesting if they met any of the Euro standards
They did an emissions test on mine, which was above the norm, but just gave me a Gallic shrug and said it didn’t matter. To be honest it was €75 for old rope, though it does have 3 year validity. The bloke who did the check told me that the standards required are going to be gradually ratchetted up over the coming years.
Hopefully I should pass but I will be very interested the exactly what emissions are measured and what the results are. I also got the impression, when making the appointment, that they're taking it easy to begin with
@@RepairandRideout i went with an older bike last week’ and the fella told me they don’t emissions test bikes pre 1996, i think it was. Mine was a 95 Blade and they didn’t test it.
Good luck! .... you know I never made any sense to me to have emission "zones" in different parts of the city. Aren't we sharing the same air everywhere? Meh. Governments..... I love how clean your bike is though. It is a little piece of artwork! Well done. Your RD makes m8ne look like it's drunk uncle!
Thanks for your compliment. According to the government only 1% of all motorbikes will be in the 'dirtiest' emissions category but despite lobbying they will not be exempted.
@@RepairandRideout Yep. They aren't going to bother with logic and reason they just know it's a cash cow and certainly not going to give up all that free money from us. Anyway. All of that is forgotten with a couple of kicks of the starter and a couple of whiffs of smoke from the pipes! Ride on!
Much easier here in UK as I'm sure you are aware. Just register as Historic and no MOT, tax or ULEZ to worry about. A lot of old two strokes are actually ULEZ compliant. Despite pumping out loads of smoke their NOX levels are low. Interesting how they determine 'originality; - ask the owner. I'm guessing but a lot of current testers weren't even born when these bikes were on the road so unless they are a bike person probably wouldn't know either way. Good luck. Can't see why it wouldn't pass.
Can you not get it emissions checked and certified? With ULEZ in London, you can take a 2 stroke for a vosa check for emissions and because " strokes don't emit NOx gases they are exempt. The test does not measure unburnt hydro carbons which is what comes out of a 2 stroke exhaust. " strokes run relatively cool and are not high compression so should always pass Nox tests. I'm not sure if this is the same in France, but maybe worth checking. Search TH-cam for ULEZ 2 stroke emissions test and there is a guy with an RD350LC who explains it really well. His channel is Moto Toki. Good luck!
Hi Spotty_cat, thanks for your comments. It has crossed my mind because as you say it is possible to have an independent emissions test prove to the ULEZ overlords that your vehicle does comply with the regulations (imho ULEZ should shoulder the burden of proof rather than the individual but there you go). From my cursory look at Crit'Air they base the emissions category on the date the vehicle was manufactured. And we know that some vehicles may well have been designed to meet a stricter set of regs e.g. a vehicle may have been produced when Euro3 was in force but actually meets Euro4. Perhaps a subject for another video?
An interesting discussion about government regulation and old bikes. Your comment about, "probably coming soon to your garage..." is frightening in an Orwellian way. It does beg the question of where is the fine line between reasonable regulation and safety compliance, as opposed to government over-reach and draconian restrictions? I sense a great debate there.😅 Sitting here in the US, government regulation is a little more haphazard in enforcement. The Federal government set the standards for safety, noise, and emissions requirents, but each of the 50 states controls their own licensing, safety inspections, and emissions requirements. California is the most restrictive of the 50 states, New York close behind. Both of these states for example, require annual safety inspections, but not emissions inspections for motorcycles. New York is cracking down on noise, but enforcement is weak.(Automobiles have emissions inspections.) Both states have outlawed aftermarket exhaust systems, but the inspection stations are not currently testing for motorcycle emissions. In my state of residence, Connecticut, motorcycle regulation is very unrestricted right now. Currently, there are no annual safety or emission inspections for motorcycles. Noise standards exist, but they are not enforced. Currently, motorcycle regulation is not high on the government's agenda. But, I can forsee the day coming where well intentioned, but ignorant and overreaching government attempts to assert regulation on motorcycles. Wild times ahead.😮
Hi Scott, thanks for your comments. There is a lot of politics behind what's happening here in France. it doesn't appear that the Government will roll back on the issue as they have done in the past.
@@RepairandRideoutAnother case of "government football," where we are the ball, getting kicked around, and forced to bear the burden of cost and compliance. ⚽️ Oh what fun! Knowledge is power. Thanks for sharing the state of affairs in France. I suspect we may soon see similar regulation in the US.
@@RepairandRideout Madame Le Pen might have a different attitude when she assumes power. The new Dutch government are rolling back the green agenda. Forthcoming Euro elections will give an indication which way the winds are blowing.
While a Trump re-election would tone down the pace of changing environmental regulations, The environmental rules set by the states cannot be rolled back by presidential fiat, and rightly so. We will all face increasing regulations as the years go by. Just have to vote and make the best of it.
A friend just had a CT done. No measurements of exhaust gasses just a visual. ie no excessive smoke etc.
Hopefully the same with me, but I would like to know exactly what emissions I'm putting out. It would be interesting if they met any of the Euro standards
Good luck , although I doubt that you 'll need it , glad to know it's not just the UK that's gone emission crazy!
Thank you. It is creeping in everywhere!
They did an emissions test on mine, which was above the norm, but just gave me a Gallic shrug and said it didn’t matter.
To be honest it was €75 for old rope, though it does have 3 year validity.
The bloke who did the check told me that the standards required are going to be gradually ratchetted up over the coming years.
Hopefully I should pass but I will be very interested the exactly what emissions are measured and what the results are. I also got the impression, when making the appointment, that they're taking it easy to begin with
@@RepairandRideout i went with an older bike last week’ and the fella told me they don’t emissions test bikes pre 1996, i think it was. Mine was a 95 Blade and they didn’t test it.
Good luck! .... you know I never made any sense to me to have emission "zones" in different parts of the city. Aren't we sharing the same air everywhere? Meh. Governments.....
I love how clean your bike is though. It is a little piece of artwork! Well done. Your RD makes m8ne look like it's drunk uncle!
Thanks for your compliment. According to the government only 1% of all motorbikes will be in the 'dirtiest' emissions category but despite lobbying they will not be exempted.
@@RepairandRideout Yep. They aren't going to bother with logic and reason they just know it's a cash cow and certainly not going to give up all that free money from us. Anyway. All of that is forgotten with a couple of kicks of the starter and a couple of whiffs of smoke from the pipes! Ride on!
Much easier here in UK as I'm sure you are aware. Just register as Historic and no MOT, tax or ULEZ to worry about. A lot of old two strokes are actually ULEZ compliant. Despite pumping out loads of smoke their NOX levels are low. Interesting how they determine 'originality; - ask the owner. I'm guessing but a lot of current testers weren't even born when these bikes were on the road so unless they are a bike person probably wouldn't know either way. Good luck. Can't see why it wouldn't pass.
@@colinculverwell325 It's the Crit'Air requirement that catches older bikes out. I hope the UK doesn't follow suit
Can you not get it emissions checked and certified? With ULEZ in London, you can take a 2 stroke for a vosa check for emissions and because " strokes don't emit NOx gases they are exempt. The test does not measure unburnt hydro carbons which is what comes out of a 2 stroke exhaust. " strokes run relatively cool and are not high compression so should always pass Nox tests. I'm not sure if this is the same in France, but maybe worth checking. Search TH-cam for ULEZ 2 stroke emissions test and there is a guy with an RD350LC who explains it really well. His channel is Moto Toki. Good luck!
Hi Spotty_cat, thanks for your comments. It has crossed my mind because as you say it is possible to have an independent emissions test prove to the ULEZ overlords that your vehicle does comply with the regulations (imho ULEZ should shoulder the burden of proof rather than the individual but there you go). From my cursory look at Crit'Air they base the emissions category on the date the vehicle was manufactured. And we know that some vehicles may well have been designed to meet a stricter set of regs e.g. a vehicle may have been produced when Euro3 was in force but actually meets Euro4. Perhaps a subject for another video?
I am living near Toulouse and have an FJ1200 and I have yet to do the controls technique
An interesting discussion about government regulation and old bikes. Your comment about, "probably coming soon to your garage..." is frightening in an Orwellian way. It does beg the question of where is the fine line between reasonable regulation and safety compliance, as opposed to government over-reach and draconian restrictions? I sense a great debate there.😅
Sitting here in the US, government regulation is a little more haphazard in enforcement. The Federal government set the standards for safety, noise, and emissions requirents, but each of the 50 states controls their own licensing, safety inspections, and emissions requirements. California is the most restrictive of the 50 states, New York close behind. Both of these states for example, require annual safety inspections, but not emissions inspections for motorcycles. New York is cracking down on noise, but enforcement is weak.(Automobiles have emissions inspections.) Both states have outlawed aftermarket exhaust systems, but the inspection stations are not currently testing for motorcycle emissions.
In my state of residence, Connecticut, motorcycle regulation is very unrestricted right now. Currently, there are no annual safety or emission inspections for motorcycles. Noise standards exist, but they are not enforced. Currently, motorcycle regulation is not high on the government's agenda. But, I can forsee the day coming where well intentioned, but ignorant and overreaching government attempts to assert regulation on motorcycles. Wild times ahead.😮
Hi Scott, thanks for your comments. There is a lot of politics behind what's happening here in France. it doesn't appear that the Government will roll back on the issue as they have done in the past.
@@RepairandRideoutAnother case of "government football," where we are the ball, getting kicked around, and forced to bear the burden of cost and compliance. ⚽️ Oh what fun!
Knowledge is power. Thanks for sharing the state of affairs in France. I suspect we may soon see similar regulation in the US.
@@RepairandRideout Madame Le Pen might have a different attitude when she assumes power. The new Dutch government are rolling back the green agenda. Forthcoming Euro elections will give an indication which way the winds are blowing.
@@Scott-ph2yk Vote Trump and you should be ok.
While a Trump re-election would tone down the pace of changing environmental regulations, The environmental rules set by the states cannot be rolled back by presidential fiat, and rightly so. We will all face increasing regulations as the years go by. Just have to vote and make the best of it.