Ross's Game Dungeon: Revenant (1 of 2)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ต.ค. 2024
- Ross re-resurrects Revenant back from the dead and deals with the consequences of those actions.
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"There's still plenty of weird left in the tank." NOTHING could've prepared us for Armed & Delirious...
I was legit just thinking that someone would comment this lol
@Griffin Chastain Me too ;D I love weird and literally insane games/art.
The animations and graphical design is outstanding for 1999. That fish and the killed giant really look amazing.
Also I have to say, tho the character/enemy models themselfs are a bit more polygonal then some other games of the time the sheer variety of models and especially how fulent their animation is is quite amazing.
It also harshely reminds me of how dull and grey all modern games are. It's as if devs forgot that green or blue even exist.
JinFreeks or god forbid a yellow or red. I'm not even sure gamers remember those colors exist.
@@HashSl1ng1ngSlasher Desaturated colours can be really striking if you use them sparingly. You might want to show the pock-marked hellscape of no-mans land Passchendaele or something as this bland mess of grays, browns and desaturated greens. But you can't have every game and every scene be less colourful than a WW1 trench warfare simulator or you lose the effect.
@@JinFreeks l asset
@@soylentgreenb i was about to say that comment was a bit generalizing of the industry, but then i saw it's 7 years ago. oh god the brown n bloom shooters of yore. i'm so glad we left and are never coming back
The wizard "dialogue" is my favorite part of this whole video.
"You question my judgment? Perhaps you would like to watch me... strrroke my beard? What do you think about *that?* Hmm?"
"I'm afraid my beard has spoken. We have no choice."
**MY BEEEeeeeaaaaarrrrd...**
I'm really really having a hard time not to believe that this dialogue is edited.... Because it's damn funny
Ah yes good
"Hmm, what? Oh...yes."
@@Crrrow I was thinking the exact same thing XD
"I punch, therefore I am."
That's beautiful. Bikers should have tattoos that say that.
Gonna use that on my philosophy thesis
Deep.
I think in Latin that would roughly translate to "pugno ergo sum".
@@GmodPlusWoW Ferrum not pugno. Pugno is fight not punch, ironically there are already T-Shirts for it though
I'm gonna write a song with that title.
To answer the game speed question, there is no good reason to have game code logic tied to the frame rate of the game. The solution is to use a different logic loop set to a specific speed on a tick based system, and then separate the rendering loop to be able to render at whatever frame rate needed. This shit should be basic stuff and has been done for well over 10 years.
Concerning Dead Rising 3, it may be a problem with the physics engine. Sometimes they're tied to the framerate, for reasons that i dont know.
Considering google is telling me they're using Havok, and havok is known to have this kind of bugs...
I'd phrase a bit more simply/complexly.
Do not relate the amount* the game updates to frames rendered, or CPU speed.
* = This is the key word
***** Somebody on youtube actually praising Skyrim for doing something right? I must be in the Twilight Zone. People are usually just hating on that game 2 look edgy.
***** I feel the same way. Skyrim has its faults which I wouldn't cover up, but I still love that game and get defensive when it garners what I feel is unwarranted criticism.
***** I'd say it's a different approach. It absolutely does create a more seamless experience to have loading behind-the-scenes, but trapping people in elevators can get... annoying, and having stuff load in the background means you're running the disk, which can be an issue, especially if you're doing other IO in the background too.
Obviously it can be done, but the fact is that there's only so much resources that can be put into a project. Someone working on seamless background level loading means they're not working on something else, and it has implications on how level design and the game in general works.
I do, generally, agree though.
''A number is meaningless without context''
OMFG thank you, seriously drives me nuts when games have stats but no context. I dont care how little info you give me, just give me something! lol
Spot on - I rate this comment a 102 / Kvi (b)
Because it's based on your enemy's stats. There's no flat hit rate.
Numbers without context are why a 120 HP Pokemon card is stronger than a 1200 ATK Yu-Gi-Ok card. Context matters.
@@bobobsen Path of Exile will tell you your (average?) hit chance and your hit chance against enemies with the "evasive" modifier, PER ATTACK/SKILL. That game gives you a lot of information. Unfortunately, there is a lot more that you would have to look up to figure out, or learn the formulas for some of them in order to better min/max it.
I'm reminded of one game I played a while ago that is kind of amazing in that regard. Nothing, and I mean, *nothing* is hidden from you. The game tells you exactly how likely you are to hit or get hit, who the enemy is aiming at, what it's gonna do, how much damage you do (and if there's damage variance, how much that is), what each stat does, and so on. And you know the ever-famous "you didn't steal from the boss, now there's an item you'll never get, AND the bestiary entry will be incomplete forever"? You can buy the item from a special vendor (which also functions as a buyback system and lets you buy the stuff that was in treasure chests you couldn't pick up because you had a full stack of that item), and pay the library in the hub to fill out bestiary entries, as well as tell you where that enemy you missed might be.
That was actually a large part of the draw to me, just _how_ open-handed the game was with you.
This was the first RPG I actually finished when I was a kid. The thing is - one should really point out that this game has Multiplayer functions. There are 2 other characters that should be controllable by other players. Singleplayer you never get to play them. Back in the time, I did not have internet that is affordable when left running. And also online playing was not supported as I remember - so it was LAN multiplayer-only - meaning you need two or more copies of the game!? what the... heck. ONE MORE THING: The game has its own level editor - I made new levels with it when I was a kid - was kind of fun but I never found anyone else making new levels for this game. In a Nutshell, the game feels like it was released way too early. It has its own engine, own level editor, other player characters with their own skill progression ratings... what the - there is so much that was never used in the campaign. It always felt like the game was meant to be much greater - the combat animations were revolutionary - and in the end, it feels like they run out of budget and had to release it early - leaving great modding tools behind which nobody interested. Revenant was supposed to be a jack of all trades - the second character was a warrior without magic abilities but better combat strength, and the third character was a mage - faster magic regeneration but much weaker in weapon combat. I have never seen this game in multiplayer - it would be so interesting to actually see it once. I also doubt that anybody played it in multiplayer.
They must have spent too much budget and time on making the mazes showcased in part 2. Lol
That's a joke, but in all seriousness they should have focused on making the basics better. Maybe they couldn't because they actually spent too much time and money on the great art, music, and those fancy animations you mentioned. I can see that.
Wow, almost no point in writing this given how old the video is.
BUT.
What you said about magenta being the transparency colour used in the game (which is quite a common colour to use as transparency in sprite based games) got me thinking. The magenta swing ark of the sword is most likely supposed to be transparent also. There's a gradient (from solid colour to transparent) in the ark of the swing, which implies to me that the colour and its intensity is a curve value which is used to define the intensity of an effect. The most likely explanation would be that any textures that fell (from the position of the camera vs the position of the ark) beneath the the ark of the swing would be warped according to the gradient of the magenta, to make it look like the blade was 'cutting' through the air.
Gradients being used in this way is extremely common in games and colour values are a nice easy, visual way of representing values from zero to one.
MrCake Fingers when you get notified you will know it was me who liked your comment.
Tigershot ahh, someone cared, thanks bro! Haha
MrCake Fingers how are you mate?
Tigershot hey I'm alright man, sorry maybe sounded a bit dramatic in that last post without meaning to!
Yes you should realise there's not many people scrolling through the recent comments these days!
I love how refreshingly Old Testament Locke is.
"You are a coward, you failed your master!"
"Is this what men are like in this age? Blubbering like children!"
No heroic sacrifice, no grandiose moralizing, no peace-and-love. He's a straight fuckin' Greek Hero, complete with the pitiless disdain for failure and mercy.
Any tips where i can find more?
It definitely reminded me of Merlin from That Hideous Strength. Not quite the same thing, since Merlin is unambiguously a good guy, he's just from a very different time.
@@RabbiHerschel that was a great book
@@TitusCastiglione1503 "Technocratic NGOs literally worship Satan and you can save the world by blowing them up." - C. S. Lewis
@@RabbiHerschel We need someone to make a RPG with that plot and then Ross needs to play it on Game Dungeon.
Here's a fun fact everyone! In this game, some of the cast is composed of the voice actors of other characters in different media, such as:
Ondolemar/Every Fucking Male Altmer (Skyrim)
Dr. Mobius (Fallout: New Vegas - Old World Blues)
Captain Gantu (Lilo and Stitch)
Raziel (Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver/SR2/Defiance)
Grim (Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy)
grim was the best
Kevin Michael Richardson also voiced Sarevok in Baldur's Gate.
Yes, CPU speed and framerates will always be issues for video games. The problem lies in game loops and how games decide to work around them. Game loops are typically done as fast as possible, but they can be split into sections (often an update loop and a draw loop) with different rates for each, primarily the update loop being capped and the draw loop going as fast as possible or being limited by the graphics card.
Here in lies a plethora of problems, primarily when porting. PCs can run much faster than even today's consoles, and if a game was made for them, they might not being doing all of the best practices when converting. My guess is for a game like Dead Rising 3, the game is use to capping at 30 and may not be limiting the update loop. This could affect collisions and timing as seen in games like this one. It will always need considering for developers. What often happens is the difference between frames will be calculated and that number used for updating speeds and whatnot. This theoretically will make things look the same speed regardless of framerate, but depending on how it's handled, really slow computers can end up having objects fly through walls.
These problems are likely getting weirder and more difficult to tackle with the advent of threading and multi-core CPUs. These even more separated loops (working at the same time asynchronously) can lead to extremely strange and unwanted behavior, especially when dealing with the numerous CPUs and GPUs that are using them.
Developers shouldn't be letting this happen anymore, but since many games start on consoles first (with standardized hardware and many times different methods of structuring game loops), the porting process will almost always lead to unforeseen issues. The developers of Dead Rising 3 should have thought ahead, but budgets and deadlines will often trump best practices.
So far I've been developing my loops the more PC centric way. I update/draw as fast as possible and find what's called "delta time" to make things always look like they're running at the same rate. It can and has lead to really bizarre issues but depending on the kind of game can be great for maximum flexibility. From what I've read, the best method is to cap the update loop (allowing for consistent collision detection) and then use delta time for interpolation in the draw loop. This means a game may be updating at 15 frames per second but still draw at like 200. I've heard multiplayer games use this method heavily, and having dealt with network code, I can completely understand why.
TL;DR: Framerates and CPU speeds will always lead to issues. This shit's still crazy.
And I thought we figured that out in the 80s after the 80286 was faster than the 8088.
I mean, we only had 40 years to notice the problem and work on it. (that was longer than we had to solve the Y2K issue)
And even consoles don't have standardized hardware anymore. Or at least not how they used to. With all the "pro" and "X" versions of consoles, with better specs than the base model. And added to that, consoles have more configuration options for the games nowadays, so people might run different FOV or make different choice between eye candy and performance modes.
Plus, Capcom are notoriously lazy with their PC ports and probably give their dev teams almost no time or money to get the ports done.
8 years later and arguably the most prominent release of the year- Starfield, is capped to 30FPS on consoles despite being touted as the most advanced product from the company yet. i dont think ive ever seen someone be more correct
30 fps in 2023, hilarious... And people will still waste money on this trash...
I miss hearing about Ross's strange map obsession. I relate to it. Not because I have it, it just reminds me of how much I spend entire days on spreadsheets for tabletop RPG stuff. It's weird.
I'm someone who loves to draw maps, so I feel that
Wait did he stop obsessing over maps in future episodes? 😢
One of the best game i have ever played. Way ahead of its time. Difficulty spikes were frustrating. They made me destroy my keyboard for the first time.
Oh man, I love this series. There's a million games out there that went way under the radar but had their own gem-worthy moments. Arcanum and Nox, for instance.
Du u know more cool rpgs ?
@@babyfonk4588 I said two: Arcanum and Nox, but there's a number out there that had such niche appeal to the masses, but proved a lot of fun or had monumental facets to their gameplay that were generally unique.
Nox! Yes!!!
"Train my fists by punching trees or some shit"... queue the "Turkish Star Wars training montage"
Ross can I get that opening "I have the power" record so I can make it my ringtone?
I HAVE THE POWER!!!
Rossman
and the masters of the gaming dungeon
Some things are just beyond programmers. I can recall one programmer breaking limit to object vertices accepted by game engine, allowing more details to be put on object and enabling modders to create amazing models... unless object has 2^x vertices, those just crashed the game. You could create very detailed object with 2047 vertices, but if you did it with 2048, the game would crash. The programmer had no clue why it happened.
Necro as fuck, but that sounds like a basic buffer overflow.
Before explaining what that is, for anyone reading, I should first go a little into how the data is laid out. Integer values stored in data hit their value limit on (2^x) - 1, look at a single byte as an explanation. 1 byte is 8 bits, so we have 8 places that can be zero or one, each place that's set to 1 basically adds it's power of 2 to the end value. Well the 8th bit would be 128, and if we were to set all the lesser bits to 1 and add them together we'd get 127, essentially, all the bits before any given bit add up to that bit's power of 2 with 1 taken off. In our 1 byte example the max value we can get is 255 or 2^8 - 1, because the 8th byte is 2^7 = 128, and every byte before it adds up to a total of 127, 127 + 128 = 255. Also you might ask why the 8th bit is 2^7 and not 2^8, that's because the first bit is 2^0 = 1, otherwise we'd have no odd numbers in computing.
Anyway, to wrap up the issue here is that somewhere in the engine your friend was modding only allotted 11 bytes max for storing the vert count, or there was some buffer stored the actual vertices that also was hard capped, either way when you hit 2048 vertices the data started writing over other things that were either important to engine or were outside of program memory (in which case the OS gives you a swift kick in the ass). It could be that 2047 verts was also overwriting things in memory outside of it's allotted space, but you were 'lucky' and this data wasn't being used anymore or was something non-critical like debug logging. Hoo boy, that was more writing than I thought, sorry.
Who cares about necroing anymore, it's TH-cam not a paid forum
@Ethan Ansell Binary almost certainly has SOMETHING to do with it.
@@MrTehWurld Good lad. I believe we should embrace dialogues (or, perhaps, sequences of monologues) stretched out over many years. And if mankind ever metastasises beyond Earth it will turn out to have been good practice.
@@thesenamesaretaken well said Jezzer
Hey, Accursed Farms/Ross! Your followup review for Revenant just became a whole lot easier, as ***** just released the game into their collection and that means its been nicely fixed up!
Hail to the DRM-Free King, baby!
+XanthinZarda YAAAAY
+XanthinZarda Here's the link - www.gog.com/game/revenant
Terf1988 Thanks, but I wasn't wanting to patronize him completely. He could have found it.
I was making it easy for others to find the game.
Yeah, it's still broken. Use dgvoodoo + a cd copy patched to 1.11e
Great review man - never heard of this title, but I think I'll be avoiding maze the game regardless.
Being an Action RPG fan, have you ever dabbled in the Titan Quest series?
Oh look who it is
Titan Quest was the shit back when I was like around 9 or 10 I think, plus love your vids! :3
Didn't know you watched these videos, Sup man.
This is really good series. And recently I enjoy your video man lol
Holy sh*t, never would've guessed you watched this.
That old Eidos logo opening is still euphoric and serene
the music to this game is my go to when I can't sleep
May need to try that
4:20 "Windows 8 School of User Interface" xD
That opening is singlehandedly one of the best in all of Ross' Game Dungeon. Love these videos enough that I come back and just rewatch them all every once in awhile.
in skyrim, there are moments where brawls occur and you have to use your hands, which isn't even that tough- and are pretty rare to begin with. weirdly enough- i came back to play skyrim one day and said "Fuck it, no melee weapons. just fist" and i ended up actually stomping most of the game- even the dragons.
Reminds me of Robbaz, he made a video about the best fisting build
Morrowind and Oblivion are better than Skyrim imo.
@@MinscFromBaldursGate92 stunning and brave
>Sylvester Stallone's less handsome cousin
You mean Frank Stallone?
Oh man I love it when I see people referencing RLM when I'm watching Game Dungeon
I thought Frank was his brother?
@@assultrifleman12 in my days it would have been a spoony reference :(
To quote Frank,
"That's crush-ass central."
@@assultrifleman12 imagine being such a netbaby you associate it with RLM and not Norm Macdonald
The attack colour splashes you mention at 7:39 might be caused by the same bug as the magenta text shadow.
I looked up some game footage that didn't have the magenta text and it still had the color on the attack swings. I thought the same thing at first, though.
@@FlorenceFox Bummer... I was giving them the benefit of the doubt on that one... lol attack swing trails ... whhhhhhyyyyy!!!?!?!?!?
Lol woulda been out ahead of the curve if it actually was a transparency lol... but pink... shit.. sigh... Hey! Maybe it was SPOSED to be transparent, but they got the text, but then before shipping the swing when fucky and then bam... pressed no patch support... yup we just like hot pink, yay 90's!
Ross should do a Game Dungeon on Divine Divinity one day, it's like a more complex Diablo II with some nods to Diablo 1 as well, it has one giant act (and a second much smaller act), and tons of sidequests.
Also has a lack of respawning enemies I think, can't remember.
This channel is amazing! I've been binge watching this for the past several days.
You know I started watching because Freeman's Mind has been taking so long but honestly I'm more hyped for new episodes of Game Dungeon just because of how many awesome and obscure games get reccomended
"You can't cut someone's head off with your fist"
Not with that attitude...
I'm here to counter some of Ross's arguments:
First off the game was balanced around it's combat system (and it was supposed to be munch more complex than what was left in the game)
1) The controls are well suited for the combat system presented - it's meant to be way more action-ey (combos, dodges, timed blocks etc.) than your standard Diablo-like hack and slash. Later, Nox would use similar control scheme.
2)This version is obviously bugged more than mine, because in my version (which is Russian), all lines and dialogue play as they should. The colored font background/outlines, as well as most of graphical glitches are there because game was not adapted for modern DirectX properly (actually it was not adapted at all). Pre-DX8 games often have bugs and glitches like that. When run at the original hardware of the time, there were no such bugs. You better running this game in a window (with screen colors turned to 16bit) , and I also remember seeing a fan patch that fixes quite a lot of bugs on some fan forum.
You can also set all settings sliders do vie a command prompt on a game's shortcut (yeah, that checkbox and sliders too)
4)Those are not "light/heavy/medium", those are "chop/slash/thrust" attacks and are called so in the manual. "chop" deals most damage, "slash" hits wide and damages several enemies, "thrust" has farther reach most of the time and with some weapons can penetrate armor better. Each attack works differently depending on your weapon (thrusting with a hammer ain't going to do much)
5)Finishing moves aren't random, but are special to each enemy and must be performed with a specific weapon and specific attack, while enemies health vs your power relation is low enough (I think 3 or so). There are also enemy-type specific moves, like kicking small enemies away (druugs, spiders, dogs), or impale-throw that works with sword and any humanoid enemy light enough for lock to throw. Or a badass ogrok beatdown.
6)Spell system actually follows some logic, which allows you to get some spells not listed in scrolls by following a principle (same was later used in Arx Fatalis)
Locke was supposed to be one of several characters, and he was supposed to be a "spellsword" type - someone who can both swing a blade, and support himself with some spell. Other classes are only available in multiplayer, and a good Wizard rocks there (he did while servers were up). Also later you'd learn a mana drain spell that allows you to regen it off your enemies.
7)Speed. At that time many reflex-oriented games used bound-to-framerate practice to slow the game down when it was stuttering, thus allowing players with not-so-powerful rigs to actually walk through the game instead of dying every time there were awesome spell effects on screen.
8)Load time. Because you set it up to load world in big chunks, and load it right away, that's why. Fiddling with load settings will get you the smooth gameplay with little to no loading. (Also DR3 works great with uncapped 60-100 fps))
9) IIRC you get the advanced stats by Ctrl->click ing the stat in question. You can examine weapons, stats, items and enemies in game.
10) You don't have anough HP because you neither block nor dodge, nor use special attacks. They were put there for a reason. Knock the dog to stop it from running away, dodge dragon fire to awoid being lit on flames, block enemy attacks and use proper weapon (and attack type), your enemy is not resilent to in order to win.
11) Boss battle is actually simple: LEARN THE COMBO MOVES FROM DOJO. Like somebody told you at the start of the game. Block, dodge, and, if you feel cheaty, stun him with some basic fire magic, or swamp swirl.
Revenant was really good tbh, underrated
Make a video of the game not sucking, then we'll believe you xD
Is there any proof that this information was easily accessible in the game? Also you can't deny that stupidly unsatisfying ending.
@@ArvelDreth nope, this is all either stuff you had to glean from the manual or learn through trial & error or countless hours of wandering.
@@MrTehWurld Wow, sounds really fucking annoying.
I actually like the magenta text shadow. I had the same thing on Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace when playing that growing up, so it gives me a huge nostalgia-rush.
Hey Ross! Just want to let you know i stumbled across your channel via r/gaming a couple weeks ago. I really like your reviews and would love to see you do more. I'm glad you did this game especially. I played it way back when and had fond memories, but I never played beyond the caves level. I'm also glad i haven't tried to play this game again, especially since you described how screwed up it can be! Anywho keep up the great work! looking forward to more of the game dungeon!
Oof..Eidos. Come on guys.
Playing Blood Omen for nostalgias sake, its kinda weird how deadly similar this start up is. Kain even get suspended over hell to be resurrected for a bunch of bullshit with an old man telling him what to do.
So..this is Blood Omen, but Kain has a wife, sorta, and no vampires.
blood omen is fucktons of times better though...
Man the part he explain how much the game is a pain to run brings me back so much memories
I liked the magic system when i was a kid. It was so different from other games and made me feel like I'm actually casting the spell. Also you don't need the scrolls, you can just experiment, as i did, to find spells. It was so rewarding to find them without the scroll :P
I loved this game SO much, it pains me to think how much better it could have been :(
The GOG version runs just fine (also no magenta shadow on the text).
Yeah but it didn't exist back when this video was made
2021 and I'm rewatching through my fav old episodes!
13:48 Its because it was poorly coded. To prevent race conditions, they forced the thread to sleep (wait) so that there would be enough time for the load to complete.
I would like to revise my answer and say that its much more likely that they coded a maximum load speed, to prevent race conditions (certain things happening out of order) and not a thread sleep. It still boils down to poor future-proof code. But then again, its not really an issue.
The game itself wasn't really multi-threaded...
This actually takes me back to my school days when I first saw this game at my friends place I was sold. Brutal nostalgia.
6:38 "You can just feel the justice radiating from this room..." Hahaha!
Dripping off the walls even.
@@DutchBlackMantha Had to clean the justice off my face.
just wanted to say thanks again to ross, i love that you have this playlist and i'ts been going for years and years now, and old episodes are just as high quality as new ones, i watch some of the videos every few months because it's just so chill and fun
My friend once related to me a story about when he was a kid, he used the little money he had managed to save on this game that had an amazing cover in the store and not much on the back. He said he expected these huge and epic battles and riding dragons and murdering armies... then he discovered it was turn-based and cried for a whole day, vowing never to suffer a turn-based title ever again.
True story.
jeez... i'm glad my first experience wasn't like that. mine was fuckin Lost Odyssey. That's like one kid getting a shit and mayonaise sandwich for lunch, and the other getting chicken cordon bleu from a 5 star restaurant....
@@xXGodofTecknoXx Lost Odyssey was pretty great... but I preferred Resonance of Fate, which dropped around the same time.
But my first RPG was Chrono Trigger when it came out so I am privileged. Especially since my second was FF3, and my third was Super Mario RPG. Good thing about having a video game savvy older brother.
4th was Earthbound... still have the cart for that even.
Revenant is badass. I remember having a great time playing it. Another great Ross'st Game Dungeon.
Ross, you NEED to do a Game Dungeon on I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream. It's such a good grimdark kind of game with enough obscurity to fit within your criteria.
Like the story even though the author Harry Harrison was kind of a pretentious jerkass.
@@MinscFromBaldursGate92 Is Harry Harrison related to Harlan Ellison or something?
If you've heard of it, it's not obscure enough. What we need is Bip Bop IV.
"Maybe it's because every save file created 1,500 files for some reason" -- haha, that's a new one!
I think that may tie into your loading problems. I do some amateur programming, and I noticed that writing a lot of small files is way more intensive for my computer than writing a big one. Especially when dealing with latency on a network drive or something, I could probably write a single 1GB file twice as quickly as I could write 100 10MB files. There's something about the new file creation, finding a location on the drive for it or something, that slows down the whole process.
It also helps a lot to read and write data in one large piece, which was going to be my other possible suggestion for the rough load times. If I have 10 variables to save, like player health=66, mana=33, str=10, location=valley, ect... I can create one big string of data that looks like "66|33|10|valley" and save that all at once in one file, or I can choose to iterate through every variable one by one and save it, so save health=66, then save mana=33. This way takes way longer because every save command is accessing a file on the hard drive, instead of the program just compiling all the variables in memory and accessing a file once.
Just some fun fact tidbits I picked up doing corporate programming on a sloppy server :P
Loved the Kain comparison! LoK FTW!
+w3pa I missed this game, played this years ago and was reminded of it when I saw the recent Revenant Movie!
I'm honestly amazed to see that someone besides me not only heard of this game, but actually played it.
To this day I'm convinced that it just spontaneously spawned in my drawer one day, because for the life of me I can't recall ever buying it
16:51 I fully agree with you there, I despise infinite respawning in any game.
I remember this game. I was quite impressed with its large graphics at the time.
List of TBRPGs that Ross can stand:
Fallout
Fallout 2
Earthbound
Chrono trigger.
Good choices.
Given what these games have in common, maybe what Ross hates is actually random encounters. But it's hard to say for sure, because other than that what these game have in common is excellent production value, unique settings, and for the most part pretty unique overworld gameplay, so there's any number of compliments you could pay to any of them
@@PangolinMontanari My money is on length. All four of those stand out as easily beatable in under 25 hours, Fallout probably more like 15. For turn-based RPGs, especially high production value ones, that's really no time at all. Other classics from the period are much longer, e.g. Baldur's Gate II (60+) or Final Fantasy VII (45+).
blasting at full volume Ross screaming "I have the power !" for the world to hear is a beautiful thing
By the way. You really need to use spells in this game. The game tells you, you are a mage warrior :-)
This is one of the funniest episodes of Rosse's Game Dungeon I have seen so far.
"You can't cut someone's head off with your fist!"
Speak for yourself.
I remember buying this game back in the game after i played a demo of it. The case is still resting in my shelf. Had a lot of fun with this title.
"maybe that's because every save file creates 15 hundred files for some reason" Oh boy does that scream of incredibly bad save optimization worthy of a "The Sims" game.
It's so strange. Maybe the person in charge of I/O didn't know how to put more than one variable into a file at a time.
Oh man, I get so excited whenever I see your shows in my TH-cam feed. Seriously, Ross. You are freaking awesome.
The guy who voices Revenant sounds exactly the same as the guy who voices the Thalmor. It sounds like the same person to me
It’s the same guy: Neil Dickson.
I love the way you can effectively review the game while still making me laugh my ass off.
Props.
10:37 did you actually manually glue screenshots together or use a photomerge tool or something? Curious how you can be bothered to do this lol
Always glad to see more Game Dungeon.
This game was supposed to be played with a controller to do all kinds of combos. I don’t see you doing any of those and that’s why you’re having such a hard time, I think.
Still have loads of nostalgia for this game.
Neil Dickson; apparently was the talmor voices in skyrim, I fucking knew i heard him somewhere.
oh damn, its already been 8 years? i cant believe how fast time flys when you get older. it doesnt feel like 8, almost 9 years past since i watched this video. damn, how much better my life,vigor and health was in 2014, i just turned 29 when this video came out and since i became 30, time went on the fast lane and everything else started to go downhill.
Bit of a nitpick but I'd disagree on respawning enemies, mainly because I'm a stat-baby who likes to grind up levels so being able to run through an area again to get a bit more gold and a bit more experience is definitely my style of play. Maybe this game was made with grinding in mind?
Gigas0101 I'd say Diablo 2 got it closer to right though. Enemies stay dead until you restart the game, so if you want to farm just kill everything, save, and come back, but with this level clearing areas out is just annoying.
Enemies that respawn so fast there's more right behind you as soon as you just got done with an enemy in a game with so many mazes is bad game design. Being able to grind stats is fine but make enemy respawns reasonable.
YES! Once again we shall explore Ross's Game Dungeon.
I really hope he doesnt catch us down here.
I program games a lot, so I can answer why game companies cap their FPS.
You know how some CPUs are faster than others? This can cause games to run faster on some systems than others. So how did most sane people fix this? Grab the "delta time" (i.e. milliseconds between each frame) multiply that by the movement speed of a character (or any time sensitive operation) and then use that. That way, if the game is running at 10 FPS or 100 FPS, you'll get the same experience.
A lot of developers (especially on consoles) are very lazy, and instead of making a proper PC port, they'll just cap the FPS to the console's and call it a day.
Nah... it was locked to 24fps, but required vsync to be turned on - and the software renderer probably didn't support it or it was explicitly disabled. Unfortunately, it will only run with software rendering now.
I actually had an argument with a programmer friend of mine about tying features to FPS Vs delta time.
His argument boiled down to 'it doesn't matter' and 'games weren't meant to last forever'
Thanks for the review, Clint from LGR sent me this link, was not disappointed. I also bought this game when it came out. Never finished it, and didn't really get the story while I played it. But remember the music being cool.
"will future games crap themselves, too, if you run them at something other than X fps?"
Ooh, I can answer that one with a counter question:
Will they ever stop making and botching up console ports?
Hint: The answer is no.
Man i really like your game reviews. Its not often someone actually focuses on what they like about a game as opposed to just railing on the flaws.
you should do an episode or two on the Divine Divinity series
If Ross have this same opinion about H&S games like me, he don't gona like those games. Not even a bit.
Loved this game and still do. The game does not hold your hand, this is a good thing.
"The most temperamental game I've played" have you ever tried to run any of the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. games on anything beyond windows 7?
I have 8.1x64 and all STALKER games run just as well as they did back when they first came out. Only (minor) problem is that it can start 640x480 windowed but the internal resolution is my monitor size, so it takes a bit of time to get full screen working.
Stalker call if pripyat is stable under win 10. 800 hours on Call of chernobyl on win 10 x64 proves that.
Well, Russian version of STALKER is protected by StarForce which doesn't work on 64-bit Windows. So maybe it's that.
Yes! More game dungeon! 40 minutes of pure gold!
That beard though.
That pause before the fight with the arena. Champion was hilarious
Who the hell clicks to run/walk in Diablo games? Everyone I've ever known always holds down the mouse button.
people with carpal tunnel
This reminds me so much of PS1 games that it hurts with nostalgia...freaking love it!
I love these Game Dungeons reviews! Have you played Dark Souls? That's a game where you can dump everything into strength and wield a big-ass weapon that hits like a dump-truck and whether you hit the enemy is determined by your skill, not by bull-shit random chance.
Also, I heard you mention Elder Scrolls. Do you like Skyrim? I love that game.
lol really? What kind of core gamer haven't heard of Dark Souls? Also, Skyrim really? Don't tell me thats your first TES game.
halfhalo33 Stop being pretentious. Does it make your e-peen feel good that you played TES before Skyrim?
halfhalo33 Well, first of all, I asked if he PLAYED it, not if he's heard of it. I'm sure he's heard of it more than likely, Playing it of course is something else. I'm not sure what a "core gamer" is (although it does sound like a cute label) but I wouldn't assume Ross is the kind to self-apply meaningless labels, or that as a "core gamer" he MUST have played it, but way to project yourself onto others. Also, no, Skyrim was not my first TES game, but does that matter?
I don't know what it is, man. Skyrim and Dark Souls are two of my favorite games but I can't mention either without starting something with someone. Too many angry neck-beards.
^ Too many angry neck beards
Look, an rpg with only one stats. Cool
6:00 There is now a Mod on ModDB for Revenant that helps it run on modern PC's like how it's ment to run on older machines via a DGVoodoo script, AND it fixs the bug where you dont hear Sardok's dialogue to Tendrick
Fallout and Fallout 2 is a Turn Based RPG?! Huh...the things you learn everyday.
+The Gaming Mole Bethesda butchered the series.
+The Gaming Mole
Fallout 3 was VERY different from its predecessors.
A damn shame too. Fallout 1-2 did combat EXACTLY how I like it and the only other games I played that do that are Wasteland 2 and Temple of Elemental Evil. Shame TOEE is completely and utterly broken to the point it's unplayable.
It really bugs me to no end. I hate party based RPGs with real time combat, the only one I could beat was Planescape Torment and that's because combat is such a negligible part of the game.
The Gaming Mole: Brad_Ry Lel, what.
How exactly is TOEE broken? Also while planescape, and the other early games made by bioware aren't true turn based games you can set the options so it pauses basically after ever move. If you are looking for modern turn based games I'd recommend Divinity original sin 1, and 2. As well as if you like fallout and wasteland I'd keep an eye on A.T.O.M It's a mix between the first fallout games, and kind of stalker. Takes place in the Soviet block after the bombs have been dropped, and is currently in early access on steam. Also while Obsidian's games Pillars of eternity, and Tyranny aren't turned based they are great CRPGs, and are really picking up the torch that Bioware has dropped. I highly recommend Tyranny for anyone who likes games with tough moral choices. Though if you only play the good guy you may hate yourself a bit afterwards.
That. Right there. Is the best intro I've seen to a video in a long time.
All the problems he listed, among many others, is why I don't really like playing on PC. I want to have fun, not work on a damn machine for hours to get a game to work.
That's really only with the older games, some games nowadays will a have a couple problems or two. most PC gamers find fixing the problems worth it for the vastly increased performance and overall better look.
JulianDRS You still have to go through a lot of shite. Like:
1- Instillation
2- Making sure the settings are correct
3- Making sure that your computer can run it 4- Hackers more frequent in multiplayer
5- Viruses a more likely occurrence
6- You have to have a good working knowledge of how computers work and go together, if you want to upgrade/build a computer.
And this is not including all the crap you have to do if you ARE trying to play an older game. If you prefer it, that's fine, not going to try to change your mind, but its not for me. I want to have FUN, not put in hours of extra work just to play a game.
DarthKato It takes extra work sure, but it's almost always worth the effort.
On consoles you have firmware updates, bugs and problems are unfixable unless the dev gets around to it, no mods, forced DRM, all your digital purchases are controlled by hellspawns (Microsoft and Sony, even Nintendo's guilty of that) that charge the same amount for Digital and Physical copies. Hell some Console games now require you to install game files and STILL require the game inside the disc drive. Online features are (XBOX360, XBONE, PS4) hidden behind a Paywall...
On the PC, sure you got DRM, you got installation, settings... But there's beautifull DRM free GoG, 75% off Steam Sales every other week, fans of the game sharing fixes and workarounds for problems, modding, Baldur's Gate 2, and the games look better. You don't even have to know about building a PC anymore since you can just buy complete machines... You can almost always use every controller you feel like ( Be it a steering wheel, a joystick or a gamepad, and this third party hardware is much cheaper than first party controlers for consoles)
And you have Baldur's Gate 2, did I mention that? Also depending on how demented you are you always have backwards compatibility, something consoles tossed to the side and killed with a shovel,
Radosław Hołdys
1-Well, I have had a lot of problems with PCs, and little to none on Consoles. There is no problem there.
2-I don't like Mods( Most that I have seen don't interest me or are just stupid looking)
3-Once again, I don't care about graphics that much. If the game looks okay, then I am happy.
4-As for Baulder's Gate, I can live without it.
5- I also don't like playing with online because most people are jerks. So I can live with just being able download games and DLC.
6-Its true that you always have Backwards Compatibility, but eventually the game is going to get so old, that it will be difficult to run.
7-PCs are expensive to maintain so that they will be able to handle the newest games.
8- I have no use for steering Wheels or Joysticks, as I don't like Racing or Simulator games.
Like I said before, if you like PCs that's fine. But they aren't for me. I'm not some Fanboy like some idiot on here accused me of being. I just have a different preference than y'all. That's okay, isn't it???
"This game behaves differently depending on what video card you have, what version of Windows you have and what your horoscope sign is."
The magic of trying to figure out how to make old games work, in all of it's glory.
Theres a modern patch that fixes all issues and makes game work fine on Windows 7 and 10. It was available at the time of review. Ross just chose to embrace the bugs (and complain about them) just as he decided to disable load-on-the-fly option and cry about loading, ignore tutorial and complain that he didnt get any essential combat skills, ignore block and dodge buttons in the controls section and cry about how he has to constantly chug potions due to tanking hits, or ignore the Might and Fist Mastery spells game deliberately gives him (he scrolls right pass them when he talks about magic, meaning HE HAD USED THEM AT LEAST ONCE) and cry about the totally unfair boss fight game went out of its way to make easy for him.
@@SinaelDOverom Bro where is this patch, please link it!
@@SinaelDOverom Also I think he's just recounting his previous experiences over the years getting the game running
I can't stand turn based combat either!!! I get so much shit for it
Did you try Fallout? It's a good exemple how turn based combat should be. Also try Divinity :)
I actually did, like he said Fallout is one of the only turn based games i can stand
(fallout games are actually my fave games of all time)
Blade Kilgannon
What about Divinity?
CookieSlaughter Like i said, I dont like turn based combat so I dont seek the type out. I dont know what that is
Blade Kilgannon I said Divinity, because it's a lot like Fallout. Combats, and Role playing.
I absolutely loved this game as a kid
Glad I came across this, I remember getting my first PC when I was about 13, and I got this game on a demo disc around 20-25 years ago. My PC couldn't even run this it ran at like 5fps but I really wanted to play it but forgot all about this game until now. Thanks!
Thanks for posting this. I remember playing this game demo back on my grandma's pentium 2 but never had the full game. Thinking of playing it through.
ross my friend you have some unique tastes in video games. i respect that
The graphics and animations are amazing.
i played this shit back in the days. pure nostalgia brought me here 2 years or so ago. i come back every once in a while to laugh my ass off. this guy is hilarious.
I love Ross' Philosophy jokes. Newly discovering Game Dungeon at the same time as newly starting a philosophy masters degree has been a pretty happy coincidence.
Thank you so much Ross for posting another game dungeon.
I entered your channel hoping for a new Freeman's Mind episode and I said oh well... let's watch this. This went a lot better than expected :) I'm currently watching all your material Ross, this is awesome!
I was going to say that this set up reminds me of Blood Omen, but you got in there ahead of me.
Exquisite taste as always my friend.
I loved the music on this one. I still have the soundtrack.