As a fellow electrician do you think you could have completed this install in 12 hours? Properly, to code. Professional looking install? Just curious there is a post claiming so on here.
@@DD-di1xc Correct. The grounding is incorrect. There needs to be a grounding conductor from the service panel ground bar to the two new grounding bars on the sub panel..
Thanks for taking the time to create this video. I am in the process of trying to buy a house in Southern Oklahoma, where they do have power outages during the cold snaps. Living here in California I had often said if I buy a house, I would install a natural gas generator like I tell everyone else. Having done a lot of electrical work, I am ready to take on the task of installing that same generator before the next cold snap. Thx
You did a better installation than most companies. Only thing I would’ve suggested was to use Generac Control Cable or Generac Tray Cable, then all the electrical connections to your generator feeds in one 1-1/4” PVC. (NEC wire rated at highest voltage 240v, my local Approving Authority requires 600v rated.). Also, I always place my SE rated Transfer Switches outside, now the new 2020 NEC Code requires outside disconnects. Gas pressure checks are required after installation, largest demand is on start-up. You should not have any problems with your unit, looks like a professional installation. One last thing, when I install a oil heater I automatically change to a 5W30 full synthetic oil. Extremely cold weather and battery heaters are good, if you used a AGM Battery instead of a Lead Acid no battery heaters are needed. Congrats...
stupid question, but if Generac states in there install manual to use separate conduit for load and start leads, how is the Generac Control Cable or Generac Tray Cable ok to use in the same 1-1/4 PVC?
@@lvggeneratorservicellc7683 each conductor comes with better insulation and all are bundled in a thick insulation, I think that's why is ok to run it in the same conduit.
@@lvggeneratorservicellc7683 First, the inspectors in our area require Generac Tray Cable, he use to install generators. Generac Tray Cable is manufactured by Southwire, and certified for Generac Generator installations. Purchased from Generac or Cable Master only, all conductors are rated at 600 volts with no miscommunication with the control wires, that could happen with inferior cable. All I use is copper, no aluminum alloy here, it cost more than running regular wire, well worth the expense and trouble. I usually bring my 1,000 foot roll out to a job site on a reel stand, and use a cable puller to finish the job.
I just had this same unit quoted to me,, down here in Houston, TX. The generator was $5300. And then they quoted almost $5,000. installation!! Thats with me running all wires and gas line! I told the salesman I was offended by their price, and escorted him out! You are the man installing it yourself!!
We got quotes today from generac and kohler here just outside Fort Worth. The generators themselves from either company is about $5K. $6900 for labor for generac, and the install can't get easier than how our stuff is located/situated. Kohler came in better with essentially only about $3000 for labor cost. Add on that we gotta get a propane tank, put propane in it, dig a trench and under the driveway to feed the generator for even more thousands fo $, and ouch.
Somebody had commented in the comments about the bonding where it is much better on the water piping it is much safer if you have a back surge do not put it into piping that goes to PVC if you get a Heat Surge it will melt the wire in the PVC and you could possibly have a back surgeon to the panel which will cause a major fire so Bond it as this man tells you he did a very nice job of wiring I have been wiring for over 30 years and he did a wonderful job he was very smart and putting two separate ground bars this way you do not have to extend the wires on the left side to go over to the right side to reach the bar
I am no where near as capable with electrical and your video is perfect for me, just enough of an overview that I get some of the finer details without the tediousness of a step by step. Great job I'll probably hire it out when the time comes. I am in Michigan myself. Crazy the shortage on these currently. Thanks for the video.
I am a 30-year Generac dealer I am one of the oldest dealers in the country it is against the law for you to deal with the wiring you must hire an electrician An E-1 licensed electricians many people have installed their own generators themselves and have had problems with wiring where they have had fires and burn their houses down your insurance will not cover your house if it was not a permit pulled you cannot pull a permit for electrical or gas you must have a license person to do that please be careful with that and do it the right way I have seen many houses burn down from that I do insurance adjusting for insurance companies for generators and I do much work for Generac I have been all over the country as far as finding out why issues after popped up and usually it is the installers fault
@@jamesbriley1655 that very much depends on where you live, here in NJ plumbing and electric permits have an exception for "homeowners performing their own work in a Single Family Detached Dwelling; this does not apply to condominiums, townhouses, duplexes or any multi-family building."
I had mine installed last year and while I was involved in all aspects of the project I paid pair of contractor friends to do the install. They went to Generac training, installed several generators before, and were already familiar with the permitting and inspection requirements. I think that you did pretty good work. Still, it would have been nice to see a few things mentioned. Load shedding should be discussed as that big generator will still only provide 80 Amps with natural gas. At a minimum your central AC should be connected to the ATS AC controls. Additionally, gas meters often need to be upgraded as a 22 KW generator can use as much gas as all the other appliances in a house combined. Other people mentioned the pad placement - I'd add in consideration of pad height if you are in an area that gets a lot of snow.
I don’t use the ATS to control air conditioning anymore. It works well, just trying to run low voltage control wire takes a lot of time and expense. Last install on a 24Kw Air Cooled unit had 3-A/C Units. I use Sure Starts sold by Generac. We tested them, and use them at every multiple A/C units, and some high LRA singles. Very, very expensive, but it will start 3-A/C units simultaneously. We back our work 100%, so everything has to work correctly, every time. We mostly do high end installs, money isn’t a problem with our clients.
Im sure concern about pad height and gas capacity but not much about load. I would think this generator will satisfy the load with the mindfulness of homeowner when emergency power switch on. Worst case scenario some breaker will shut off. Oh by the way what you paid for your installation if i can ask.
@@hangngoaigiare In 2019 I paid about $11,000 for both a 22 kWatt generator, a whole house transfer switch, a service upgrade to 200 Amps, and some extras - so I can't say how much the generator itself was. I could have saved $1000 or so by going with a smaller generator, but it didn't seem to be worth it as the generator was only part of the cost of the project. Plus, during an outage I can run some extension cords to my neighbors and keep them in their homes instead of mine. 🙂 My generator does have a 100 Amp breaker under the top cover, but I was told that it wasn't wise to rely on that to avoid overloads. The 22 kWatt capacity is what you get when you hook up propane, for natural gas the capacity is only 19.5 kWatt. Apparently if the generator senses that it is overloaded it can shut down with an error code. I was told that if that happens that it might require a service call to reset, but I didn't research that to confirm. If all it would do would be to trip the breaker then that would still be bad for me. My house is over a spring and I have sump pumps that run somewhat often at times of the year. I wouldn't want to be away from home and have that breaker trip. Additionally, part of my project that was done a few months earlier was to run a 100 Amp circuit out to my parking area to prepare for EV charging. That could have overloaded the generator, so I installed a combo meter/breaker panel before the generator transfer switch to have that circuit not be backed up by the generator. Everyone's scenario is different, so it is good to review everything with the installer to decide what you may or may not need.
Whoever wired the main panel did a very nice job I have seen panels that look like a squirrel here in a big bunch if you have an electrician do your work if the inspector looks in the panel you must repair what has ever bad in the panel before you can go on
This gentleman did a much better job than most Generac dealers if you get a Generac dealer get one that has been in business at least 15 to 20 years that will be somebody that will know what they're doing I have had to repair many fires and Generator shorts because of people putting the generator in wrong or the wiring in them
Great job! I am definitely getting one at my next house! The wife and I are getting my current house ready to sell. I already told her the first big purchase when we move is a whole house generator. I’m also interested in the general power cell batteries. Anyway, awesome job on your install!
This is a nice professional job. This is basically the holly grail way of installing a house generator imo. Really nice ATS/Generator setup. Thumbs up from me. I'm a licensed Journeyman, this is exactly what I'll be doing to my house whenever I finally get my hands on one haha. Thanks for sharing
The fuse puller comes attached to the fuse panel & b/c it needs to be snapped off to be used, it obviously cannot go back on where it came from. I suggest simply sticking it on the bolt under fuse N2 (can be seen at 23:00).
Please give some feedback if you are giving me a thumbs down, this was quite the project and probably saved 5K by doing it myself, I know it's not perfect. Thanks
I've found that some people hit the thumbs down by accident and never go back to correct it. On average, since 2007 when I first became a creator, you'll nearly always get on average 10% of total thumbs as thumbs down, no matter how good the video. Question for you, why did you choose to manually mix the concrete rather than rent a mixer? Excellent video!
@@andrewdarbyshire9108 not sure of your referring that to me, but I have seen several installs and hell no would I want them to install mine 😁, I am pretty happy how it all turned out, well worth the challenge....Plus I work for a major electrical firm and had all the support I needed,😉, Happy Labor Day!
Great job! Only change I would have made would be to sink a ground rod into the ground 3 foot and tie the panel there instead of the water pipe, as there could be sections that are or will convert into PVC at some point.
Cool, It is tied to (2) 8 foot ground rods outside In series, the inspector told me I needed to ground to the water line too. :), thanks for the comment.
@@JamesF406 which is fine correct? In Indiana we can do one but we have to prove that the resistance is in spec so a lot of folks just sink 2 and forget about it?
Good job with the setup man. As for pulling the fuses, next time all you have to do is pull the molex plug from the ats and that will de energize your control wires.
Looks good. We use a GenPad instead of pouring concrete. You can also pull your control wires in the same pipe as your power as long as its not thermostat wire. We use thhn for control wiring
When you are hooking your wires first wire you hook up an electrical is a neutral so you do not get back fee if you hook up your power wires like he did into the switch you might forget the neutral and get a fire always remember to put the neutral and ground up first but the neutral is more important than the ground
Good video, man. You answered some of the questions I had. Just ordered a 22kW for my house. Can't wait for it come in. I hope you're still happy with yours.
So far, power has went out twice for an extended period, it is so nice not have to worry about hooking up portable generators, we love it! It powers my 220 well, air conditioner and everything in the house, I just wish we wouldn't lose the internet. 😋.....definitely highly recommend it!
James Foster LS3 TA if you live in an area where Verizon is good get you a visible line and run off that during power outage. That’s what I do. Run 100% as usual.
You didn't show how the mains were moved to the transfer switch. Obviously, they weren't long enough initially, so how did you tie in longer wirings to the transfer switch?
Two questions. Where did you get the slack from when you moved your original feed from your main box to the transfer box? 2nd, did you ever install those anchor bolts at the bottom of the generator? I'm not doing my install but I am doing the generator placement. Pouring the slab tomorrow weather permitting. S/N: My first question is strictly a curious one. The 2nd, I need to know how important are the anchor bolts. I'm down here in hurricane alley. (MS Gulf Coast). And thanks, very informative video.
Great looking Gen job. I did everything myself too. You think 3/4 inch pipe is big enough for all the control wires. I want to add an ATS now and have the 3/4 inch pipe near by. When I ran all my underground pvc I left that pipe right next to the manual transfer switch. And you think i shoild go with regular gauge cable foe control wires or get the generac insulated co.trol wires. Thanks in advance
Awesome project little bit of confusion how do you use 100 amp generator to pick up a 200 amp service? You're running 100 amp wire to the disconnect transfer /switch 200 A wire to the main panel. The last point of confusion is the last picture of the panel you still have look like it was a number six ground right up next to the neutral in the main panel which is now the subpanel is that ground isolated? Peace bro
I know right, yeah the generator can only supply 100 amps therefore it can't run the entire house but for most homes you aren't really running 200 continuously and they do have load shading relays to install for the heavy appliances, so far I have not seen any issues with mine, I'll also have to go back and look at the video for the grounding, I'll let you know. Thanks for the great question.
I just realized what you were seeing, had to go watch it again, tjat ground was relocated and I didn't get in the updated video, As Derek said, Great Catch, paying attention to details!!!
Do you know where the 12V Common (-) wire coming from the Generator is supposed to be hooked up to in the Transfer Switch? I have five labeled terminals inside the transfer switch for the control wires, but I can't find where the 6th wire is to go. Does it attach to the main Grounding bar in the cabinet?
Thanks James. I also live in Michigan. I see you mentioned the 36" from the utility meter. What are the Mi. codes in regards to distance from the house and doors/windows? Looks like a nice install!
It is best to not put a generator under a window when I have seen bad weather generators run a long time I have seen where people have died from carbon monoxide because of generators were under the windows they cannot legally be under the windows they must be at least 6 feet to the left or right of the window
I am one of the oldest Generac dealers in the country you do not need to extend that utility legs when you run the power source to a transfer switch outside with a built-in shut off you are extending it as you put the wire from the bottom of the meter to the transfer switch that is the only extension you have to do it is very simple you just have to be careful not to touch the poles where you are working on it
@@JamesF406 yes there is a charger built in for larger www.generac.com/generaccorporate/media/library/content/all-products/generators/home-generators/guardian-series/16kw-7036/20-and-22kw-spec-sheet-generac-new_2.pdf
So, a long time ago I was told never use galvanized pipe on gas lines, over time galvanize could flake off and cause problems with regulators, also you not supposed to mix black piping and galvanized piping as where they meet corrosion will be accelerated, so just to be safe I used black pipe and painted it and will make sure it doesn't rust. Great question!
Here in the State of Alaska, it is cold @ 12* the area where I live. Planning to install next year a 14KW Generac generator about 5/6 months from order time; I'm not in any rush. Why 14 KW, it will run everything in my home, but not sure of the foundation placement, the type. I will follow your installation.
Just bought a house in LA and want to get one of these for hurricane season. How loud is this from inside the house? Don't want to piss my neighbors off too bad. Great install
Very instructive video but I have a few questions : after installing transfer switch did you install 2 new ground rods for it and did you also run a new cold water ground for it too or can you tie into the existing grounds and just share them from the breker panel?
Used existing 2 ground rods, added separate ground to water line and removed bonding screw from house 200 amp service panel, the bond changed over to the transfer switch.
Profesional nice clean job. May I ask how it took you get done this project including concret pad, gas line and electrical wire? One thing i would say you have to route all electrical grounding electrode conductors that connect grounding electrode or water pipe to the transfer switch and has nothing at the sub-panel (original main panel) before.
I observed that the N1, N2 and Neutral coming into the main breaker (before connecting to ATS) appeared too short to be routed to the ATS. How did you address that so there is plenty of length to reach the ATS? Many thanks. Great attention to detail!
How is the noise? Doesn't bother the neighbors, particularly when they are not very far from your home? Are generators of various noise levels? Does it need to be stopped for cooling it off? Who can advise us about the size you need to avoid being "sold" an oversized one?
When you put the oil filter on but it just a little snug it will get tighter as it runs cuz it runs 430 degrees your car only runs 222 filter will tighten as it runs if you put it on tight you'll have a very big problem getting it off later
@@jamesbriley1655 oh, you're using 14ga? An electric supply place has tray cable (the control wire/phase wires bundled together). I think I'm gonna use that. Thanks for the response. Good install. Your video helped me.
Got a question for you. I want to prerun the conduit and connecting wire that goes from the transfer switch to the generator (natural gas 22k). Could you please tell me exactly what type of wire to use. One vid said Romex 10-2. Just wasn't sure if that was enough, or if you needed more than one. Thanks for the help.
@@JamesF406 can you send me that same information through text 404-992-3084 I'm a little confused with the wire size some say 4/0 or number 4 awg size. Thanks
I have no idea but sounds like a very good idea to me, it will help keep a lot of the moisture away from the generator and generator base. I would do it.
What size Aluminum wire did you use from the generator to the transfer switch? My mom has a 90ft run from generator to panel. I was thinking 4/0 AWG Aluminum. Curious to what you used. And I think you missed a "drip leg" or sediment trap in the gas piping. But I'm no expert.
That's what I come up with on my calculator with a 1% voltage drop for using copper.(#4 AWG) I might go a size bigger for going that distance. I used #3 because my buddy had extra, it's used for industrial 100 amps.
How did you go about getting your utility disconnected so you could run the new mains and get it inspected before putting power back to it? Im currently waiting on my utility to call me back and schedule a outage..... over a week and no call! im tempted to just pull the meter myself..
Very informative video, thank you. Have you ever run your generator for an extended period of time during an outage? About how many gallons per hour did the generator burn please?
So you bonded the ats but where is your bond to the generator? I also noticed you did not install ground rods. Yes rod(S )you need 2. One other thing is I hope you didn't close the wall up with the lb's in there. It's now considered a buried junction box. Why not just 2 90s? And the lb's on top of the ats should be flipped with the cover facing outward , not facing up
😋, I have 2 grounds rods that we already installed on the house electrical and the ground from the generator goes to the ground lug on the ATS, we are good😉
@@joehorzempa7175 @James Foster LS3 TA Code Reference? Generac gensets have a floating neutral and are not a separately derived system. Generac gensets use the buildings GES. An auxiliary driven grounging electrode may be required for lightnig protection by a manufacturer.
Good question, you have to use load sheading relays or just make sure to not run everything if you have high amp appliances, I have a 220 well, polebarn and basic gas appliances, it's runs everything.
Kinda acts likes a cushion as the ground is so hard, normally you would use sand under concrete, probably didnt really matter for something so small like this pad was, I also added a small piece of rebar just to help with eliminating cracking. Good question👍
During the winter in the north when the ground freezes water accumulated under the concrete tends to heave and move the pad. After a few years the whole thing would be crooked. Crushed stone helps keep the water away.
Thank you... ur video Inspired me to do my own install, and I’m halfway through. I have a run of 26 feet from ATS to the generator, kind of close to what your run is. If you used aluminum wire which AWG did you use? One more question, for the control wires I can use 18 AWG, which control wire gauge do use? The only 18 AWG wires that I see in Lowe’s and Home Depot r thermostat wires? Is that what you used?
@@JamesF406 Thanks, got the wire with the controls cable together fm our local electric store, genset wire for 22kw. Again, thanks for the video, it rocks. Best wishes & stay safe.
How many pokes did you get playing in the live 200 amp panel. Also.......pretty sure you should heat shield those wires you fed through the heat shield near the exhaust manifold.
🤣, I shut off the main when I separated all the grounds, and yes, that's a good idea, I am kind of surprised they didnt have a dedicated path for those wires.
I love all of the comments about how it wouldn't pass per their local code 😂 Yeah no one cares about your local code. Go tell your local inspector about this video and see how much he doesn't care just like the rest of us don't.
@@JamesF406 Everything is fine, the only thing I don't like is the noise that the generator makes. that will aggravate my neighbors if I put one in my house with the noise it makes
When you have propane you should always put a drip in because you will get a water load in the system because there is water in the propane to help push it along the system in time it will freeze up your fuel regulator and eventually you will have issues with your fuel pump
It's all about bonding, the bonding needs to occur in the primary disconnect electrical enclosure and that was the main one until I added the generator disconnect, once that happened the bonding (combining the ground and the neutral) now happens in the generator panel therefore by Michigan code you have to separate them from what was the main circuit breaker box, also if you any other breaker box's IE polebarn, they also need to be separate. If you need more information I can dig up the code out of the electrical book. Hope's this help. James.
You should have run all of your electrical connections through your in house water filter next to the panel. I'm surprised you didn't do that. That's what Generac recommends.
I live in Fremont Michigan if you were to take on a side job. How much would you charge to do the wiring part of the install ? 🤔 Fine job looks professionally done.
question I have a heat pump 16 seer 2 stage dual compressor lennox and a well with a 1 hp pump and a electric water heater and the rest of the house is 2.6 studs with 6 feet of insulation in the attic and floors are insulated ,double pane windows .Only propane available here would this one run my house We are senior citizens in our late 60's and winter is getting scarier for us .We keep air on in the summer at 76 and winter the same for heat .We live in southside VA House is all led bulbs and all energy efficient appliances
😥, so sorry to hear that, mine has been running great. Must of been a fluke, hopefully they replace it hassel free. You will be happy once it online. Generac sells a ton of them with very little failures, but it does happen.
Beautiful work only thing I see (which I don't understand) is according to Mike holts the generator should not be set in or within 10 ft of meter nor in front 🤔? Nice work
I am a Generac dealer I would ask you look over your installation manual. Your pad must be at least 10’ from any house opening - the window appears much closer than that. By code you must be at least 36” from any serviceable electric, I think you probably are ok for that.
Yes sir, I used the measurements in your manual for those requirements, so far everything is within tolerance and I love this generator! Thank you for commenting!
@@243wayne1 Wayne, why are you so angry? You are right the pad can be whatever from an opening. 100s of people die every year from carbon monoxide poisoning. Virtually all were unaware of the danger. I was just pointing out that keep the generator 10 ft from any opening to prevent any possibility of poisoning. Being a dealer or not is irrelevant.
36" working clearance would be required in front of disconnecting equipment....a meter enclosure isn't a means of disconnect so he's good. Now if it was a switch on that enclosure then the 3' rule applies. Also, I went through the Generac training earlier this yr....I thought the clearance from openings was 5'...did that change...I'm brushing up on my knowledge, have my first install approaching.
I have Installed a few Generac systems . On one system everything worked perfect with the smart system switch. fast forward to about a 2 weeks ago client lost power, generator started but smart switch did not switch over to Gen power! I came out and check everything could not find a problem, have you ever heard of a smart switch being replaced? Also Generac does not have a very good tech support help, little disappointing.
Yes sir, so far only 25 hours ran, no cons just yet only pros, we always have power😁, although I wish it would run longer when it exercises itself, 5 minutes doesnt seem long enough. Once it gets warmer, I will make a update video, make sure you subscribe.
@@JamesF406 I ran mine manually to get to recommended hours for first oil change so I could go to synthetic oil. Shipped with lightweight break in oil. I agree it would be nice to run longer each week. 15-20 minutes would be preferable...
That's probably way more than you need. Remember, the more wattage it puts out the more fuel it requires. I'm getting one put in next week. The only fixed generators they had left were something like this. I saved THOUSANDS by going with a portable that was more tailored to my needs.
The only issue with a portable is when you start having them run for a long. Of time they start breaking down and they are very hard to repair and get back to normal once they start breaking down they keep breaking down I agree. Many many Portables because they are not good enough to handle the load I do not recommend a portable for the whole house
If you are doing the piping with the wire it is much easier to put the wire in a long as you are putting the pipe in it is much much easier when you get to 90 degree curve it is very hard to pull the wire you can't break the strands on the THHN wire and cause yourself many difficulties so what is better as you put the pipes together pull the wire along with you
This gave me a headache to watch. But I also install these day in day out. I would have put that ats outside next to the electrical meter. Saved money on wire and materials and time. The gas line I would’ve done an 1-1/4 and ran it straight across the wall outside less holes into the house. But overall good job for a diy enjoy it
Agreed with you, this dude used LBs inside. I'm still wondering how he got the meter pulled and replaced without an inspection. In Georgia, the power company will not replace the meter without a inspection
Christian Ingram - in my area, the inspection is performed by a third party electrical underwriter that you (or your electrician) hire yourself; the underwriter inspects and sends the electric utility company that it passed.
Nice video, Buddy. As a fellow licensed electrician, it was good to see someone get the grounding correct. Thank you for sharing.
As a fellow electrician do you think you could have completed this install in 12 hours? Properly, to code. Professional looking install? Just curious there is a post claiming so on here.
How long you been an electrician because he has no grounding conductor from the transfer switch to the sub panel.
@@DD-di1xc Correct. The grounding is incorrect. There needs to be a grounding conductor from the service panel ground bar to the two new grounding bars on the sub panel..
Thanks for taking the time to create this video. I am in the process of trying to buy a house in Southern Oklahoma, where they do have power outages during the cold snaps.
Living here in California I had often said if I buy a house, I would install a natural gas generator like I tell everyone else. Having done a lot of electrical work, I am ready to take on the task of installing that same generator before the next cold snap.
Thx
You did a better installation than most companies. Only thing I would’ve suggested was to use Generac Control Cable or Generac Tray Cable, then all the electrical connections to your generator feeds in one 1-1/4” PVC. (NEC wire rated at highest voltage 240v, my local Approving Authority requires 600v rated.). Also, I always place my SE rated Transfer Switches outside, now the new 2020 NEC Code requires outside disconnects. Gas pressure checks are required after installation, largest demand is on start-up. You should not have any problems with your unit, looks like a professional installation. One last thing, when I install a oil heater I automatically change to a 5W30 full synthetic oil. Extremely cold weather and battery heaters are good, if you used a AGM Battery instead of a Lead Acid no battery heaters are needed. Congrats...
stupid question, but if Generac states in there install manual to use separate conduit for load and start leads, how is the Generac Control Cable or Generac Tray Cable ok to use in the same 1-1/4 PVC?
@@lvggeneratorservicellc7683 each conductor comes with better insulation and all are bundled in a thick insulation, I think that's why is ok to run it in the same conduit.
@@lvggeneratorservicellc7683 First, the inspectors in our area require Generac Tray Cable, he use to install generators. Generac Tray Cable is manufactured by Southwire, and certified for Generac Generator installations. Purchased from Generac or Cable Master only, all conductors are rated at 600 volts with no miscommunication with the control wires, that could happen with inferior cable. All I use is copper, no aluminum alloy here, it cost more than running regular wire, well worth the expense and trouble. I usually bring my 1,000 foot roll out to a job site on a reel stand, and use a cable puller to finish the job.
All the Generac control cable is number 14 THHN that is all it is
I think he need to route all electrode grounding conductors to the transfer switch and not connect back to his old main panel like he did.
I just had this same unit quoted to me,, down here in Houston, TX. The generator was $5300. And then they quoted almost $5,000. installation!! Thats with me running all wires and gas line! I told the salesman I was offended by their price, and escorted him out! You are the man installing it yourself!!
Good for you! Thank you!
Way over priced.
Overpriced in Texas normal in Jersey..
We got quotes today from generac and kohler here just outside Fort Worth. The generators themselves from either company is about $5K. $6900 for labor for generac, and the install can't get easier than how our stuff is located/situated. Kohler came in better with essentially only about $3000 for labor cost. Add on that we gotta get a propane tank, put propane in it, dig a trench and under the driveway to feed the generator for even more thousands fo $, and ouch.
Somebody had commented in the comments about the bonding where it is much better on the water piping it is much safer if you have a back surge do not put it into piping that goes to PVC if you get a Heat Surge it will melt the wire in the PVC and you could possibly have a back surgeon to the panel which will cause a major fire so Bond it as this man tells you he did a very nice job of wiring I have been wiring for over 30 years and he did a wonderful job he was very smart and putting two separate ground bars this way you do not have to extend the wires on the left side to go over to the right side to reach the bar
I am no where near as capable with electrical and your video is perfect for me, just enough of an overview that I get some of the finer details without the tediousness of a step by step. Great job I'll probably hire it out when the time comes. I am in Michigan myself. Crazy the shortage on these currently. Thanks for the video.
I am a 30-year Generac dealer I am one of the oldest dealers in the country it is against the law for you to deal with the wiring you must hire an electrician An E-1 licensed electricians many people have installed their own generators themselves and have had problems with wiring where they have had fires and burn their houses down your insurance will not cover your house if it was not a permit pulled you cannot pull a permit for electrical or gas you must have a license person to do that please be careful with that and do it the right way I have seen many houses burn down from that I do insurance adjusting for insurance companies for generators and I do much work for Generac I have been all over the country as far as finding out why issues after popped up and usually it is the installers fault
@@jamesbriley1655 thanks for the comments, I was planning on hiring it out as mentioned. Still on the waiting list.
@@jamesbriley1655 that very much depends on where you live, here in NJ plumbing and electric permits have an exception for "homeowners performing their own work in a Single Family Detached Dwelling; this does not apply to condominiums, townhouses, duplexes or any multi-family building."
We just had a 22KW delivered. You did a nice job, thanks for sharing.
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I had mine installed last year and while I was involved in all aspects of the project I paid pair of contractor friends to do the install. They went to Generac training, installed several generators before, and were already familiar with the permitting and inspection requirements. I think that you did pretty good work. Still, it would have been nice to see a few things mentioned. Load shedding should be discussed as that big generator will still only provide 80 Amps with natural gas. At a minimum your central AC should be connected to the ATS AC controls. Additionally, gas meters often need to be upgraded as a 22 KW generator can use as much gas as all the other appliances in a house combined. Other people mentioned the pad placement - I'd add in consideration of pad height if you are in an area that gets a lot of snow.
Thank you for sharing those awesome details, you are spot on!!!!!!
I don’t use the ATS to control air conditioning anymore. It works well, just trying to run low voltage control wire takes a lot of time and expense. Last install on a 24Kw Air Cooled unit had 3-A/C Units. I use Sure Starts sold by Generac. We tested them, and use them at every multiple A/C units, and some high LRA singles. Very, very expensive, but it will start 3-A/C units simultaneously. We back our work 100%, so everything has to work correctly, every time. We mostly do high end installs, money isn’t a problem with our clients.
Wow thats good info. I actually need help with some questions similar exact thing.
Im sure concern about pad height and gas capacity but not much about load. I would think this generator will satisfy the load with the mindfulness of homeowner when emergency power switch on. Worst case scenario some breaker will shut off. Oh by the way what you paid for your installation if i can ask.
@@hangngoaigiare In 2019 I paid about $11,000 for both a 22 kWatt generator, a whole house transfer switch, a service upgrade to 200 Amps, and some extras - so I can't say how much the generator itself was. I could have saved $1000 or so by going with a smaller generator, but it didn't seem to be worth it as the generator was only part of the cost of the project. Plus, during an outage I can run some extension cords to my neighbors and keep them in their homes instead of mine. 🙂
My generator does have a 100 Amp breaker under the top cover, but I was told that it wasn't wise to rely on that to avoid overloads. The 22 kWatt capacity is what you get when you hook up propane, for natural gas the capacity is only 19.5 kWatt. Apparently if the generator senses that it is overloaded it can shut down with an error code. I was told that if that happens that it might require a service call to reset, but I didn't research that to confirm. If all it would do would be to trip the breaker then that would still be bad for me. My house is over a spring and I have sump pumps that run somewhat often at times of the year. I wouldn't want to be away from home and have that breaker trip.
Additionally, part of my project that was done a few months earlier was to run a 100 Amp circuit out to my parking area to prepare for EV charging. That could have overloaded the generator, so I installed a combo meter/breaker panel before the generator transfer switch to have that circuit not be backed up by the generator. Everyone's scenario is different, so it is good to review everything with the installer to decide what you may or may not need.
Whoever wired the main panel did a very nice job I have seen panels that look like a squirrel here in a big bunch if you have an electrician do your work if the inspector looks in the panel you must repair what has ever bad in the panel before you can go on
This gentleman did a much better job than most Generac dealers if you get a Generac dealer get one that has been in business at least 15 to 20 years that will be somebody that will know what they're doing I have had to repair many fires and Generator shorts because of people putting the generator in wrong or the wiring in them
Great job! I am definitely getting one at my next house! The wife and I are getting my current house ready to sell. I already told her the first big purchase when we move is a whole house generator. I’m also interested in the general power cell batteries. Anyway, awesome job on your install!
You will love it! Thank You!
I had a 20kw Generac in my last home. Worked great.
Man great work, I am getting ready to install mine, and you gave me all the confidence I needed.
This is a nice professional job. This is basically the holly grail way of installing a house generator imo. Really nice ATS/Generator setup. Thumbs up from me. I'm a licensed Journeyman, this is exactly what I'll be doing to my house whenever I finally get my hands on one haha. Thanks for sharing
The fuse puller comes attached to the fuse panel & b/c it needs to be snapped off to be used, it obviously cannot go back on where it came from.
I suggest simply sticking it on the bolt under fuse N2 (can be seen at 23:00).
Please give some feedback if you are giving me a thumbs down, this was quite the project and probably saved 5K by doing it myself, I know it's not perfect. Thanks
I've found that some people hit the thumbs down by accident and never go back to correct it. On average, since 2007 when I first became a creator, you'll nearly always get on average 10% of total thumbs as thumbs down, no matter how good the video. Question for you, why did you choose to manually mix the concrete rather than rent a mixer? Excellent video!
@@christschool
Not sure, figured I could whip it out and I needed the exercise, mixer would of been the way to go!
@Bob Smithereens thanks for the feedback, too much work to make a step by step, it would be 40 hours long :)
Bob Smithereens there’s more detailed videos out there. If you don’t know the how’s going into the project please hire a professional electrician.
@@andrewdarbyshire9108 not sure of your referring that to me, but I have seen several installs and hell no would I want them to install mine 😁, I am pretty happy how it all turned out, well worth the challenge....Plus I work for a major electrical firm and had all the support I needed,😉, Happy Labor Day!
Great job! Only change I would have made would be to sink a ground rod into the ground 3 foot and tie the panel there instead of the water pipe, as there could be sections that are or will convert into PVC at some point.
Cool, It is tied to (2) 8 foot ground rods outside In series, the inspector told me I needed to ground to the water line too. :), thanks for the comment.
@@JamesF406 you have it correct. Do you have a ground rod or two at the pole barn,?
@@beckyschwantes5287 I have one ground rod at the polebarn.
@@JamesF406 which is fine correct? In Indiana we can do one but we have to prove that the resistance is in spec so a lot of folks just sink 2 and forget about it?
You definitely need to run a ground wire from panel to panel and transfer switch to the panel it is a must
Have to bond at the Transfer Switch and Take off the bond at the Main panel..
Good job with the setup man. As for pulling the fuses, next time all you have to do is pull the molex plug from the ats and that will de energize your control wires.
Thanks for the informative video. You gave me the confidence to complete my own install.
Looks good. We use a GenPad instead of pouring concrete. You can also pull your control wires in the same pipe as your power as long as its not thermostat wire. We use thhn for control wiring
Also, why did you put the xfer switch on the inside? Would have been a lot easier next to the meter base.
I just wanted it to stay nice, most do put it outside.
Could have just used gen wire too
When you are hooking your wires first wire you hook up an electrical is a neutral so you do not get back fee if you hook up your power wires like he did into the switch you might forget the neutral and get a fire always remember to put the neutral and ground up first but the neutral is more important than the ground
Very nice work. Thanks for the show. Joe
Good video, man. You answered some of the questions I had. Just ordered a 22kW for my house. Can't wait for it come in. I hope you're still happy with yours.
So far, power has went out twice for an extended period, it is so nice not have to worry about hooking up portable generators, we love it! It powers my 220 well, air conditioner and everything in the house, I just wish we wouldn't lose the internet. 😋.....definitely highly recommend it!
James Foster LS3 TA if you live in an area where Verizon is good get you a visible line and run off that during power outage. That’s what I do. Run 100% as usual.
Interesting, we have Verizon, I will look into that, thanks Dan!
3 Years later, still love it!
Nice job on the pad! I'm at that step myself
...And you STILL are.
Gas piping bond? Working clearance in front of the meter outside?
You didn't show how the mains were moved to the transfer switch. Obviously, they weren't long enough initially, so how did you tie in longer wirings to the transfer switch?
Correct, it all had to ran new starting from the meter.
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Ah, I got it. Replace the wires from the meter output to the transfer switch. I should have figured that out.
Thank you!!
Two questions. Where did you get the slack from when you moved your original feed from your main box to the transfer box? 2nd, did you ever install those anchor bolts at the bottom of the generator? I'm not doing my install but I am doing the generator placement. Pouring the slab tomorrow weather permitting. S/N: My first question is strictly a curious one. The 2nd, I need to know how important are the anchor bolts. I'm down here in hurricane alley. (MS Gulf Coast). And thanks, very informative video.
Sorry I didn't answer this, hopefully you figured out the anchors. And I ran new wire.
Great looking Gen job. I did everything myself too. You think 3/4 inch pipe is big enough for all the control wires. I want to add an ATS now and have the 3/4 inch pipe near by. When I ran all my underground pvc I left that pipe right next to the manual transfer switch. And you think i shoild go with regular gauge cable foe control wires or get the generac insulated co.trol wires. Thanks in advance
Yes sir, Thank you!!!!
Awesome project little bit of confusion how do you use 100 amp generator to pick up a 200 amp service? You're running 100 amp wire to the disconnect transfer /switch 200 A wire to the main panel. The last point of confusion is the last picture of the panel you still have look like it was a number six ground right up next to the neutral in the main panel which is now the subpanel is that ground isolated? Peace bro
I know right, yeah the generator can only supply 100 amps therefore it can't run the entire house but for most homes you aren't really running 200 continuously and they do have load shading relays to install for the heavy appliances, so far I have not seen any issues with mine, I'll also have to go back and look at the video for the grounding, I'll let you know. Thanks for the great question.
I was thinking the same thing. That ground was right beside the neutral. Great catch!
I just realized what you were seeing, had to go watch it again, tjat ground was relocated and I didn't get in the updated video, As Derek said, Great Catch, paying attention to details!!!
@@JamesF406 yes sir! Good job man! Really good
Do you know where the 12V Common (-) wire coming from the Generator is supposed to be hooked up to in the Transfer Switch? I have five labeled terminals inside the transfer switch for the control wires, but I can't find where the 6th wire is to go. Does it attach to the main Grounding bar in the cabinet?
Mine does have 6 connections,
1- T1 Battery Charge
2- N1 utility sense
3- N2 utility sense
4- O DC ground
5- 12 VDC
6- Transfer
Thanks James. I also live in Michigan. I see you mentioned the 36" from the utility meter. What are the Mi. codes in regards to distance from the house and doors/windows? Looks like a nice install!
I'll take a look, they agree with the Generac installation distances, they are spelled out nicely in the install manual.
It is best to not put a generator under a window when I have seen bad weather generators run a long time I have seen where people have died from carbon monoxide because of generators were under the windows they cannot legally be under the windows they must be at least 6 feet to the left or right of the window
Great informative video. I'm getting ready to connect mine soon. How did you extend the utility legs to reach the generac box
My electrician friend and I pulled the meter and extended them, no other choice.
I am one of the oldest Generac dealers in the country you do not need to extend that utility legs when you run the power source to a transfer switch outside with a built-in shut off you are extending it as you put the wire from the bottom of the meter to the transfer switch that is the only extension you have to do it is very simple you just have to be careful not to touch the poles where you are working on it
Nice install, the only thing I would add is a trickle charger to the generator battery.
Thank you, I thought it had a built in one with a heated pad the battery sits on. I'll have to check
@@JamesF406 yes there is a charger built in for larger
www.generac.com/generaccorporate/media/library/content/all-products/generators/home-generators/guardian-series/16kw-7036/20-and-22kw-spec-sheet-generac-new_2.pdf
Good job, but why black pipe outside? And Not galvanized?
So, a long time ago I was told never use galvanized pipe on gas lines, over time galvanize could flake off and cause problems with regulators, also you not supposed to mix black piping and galvanized piping as where they meet corrosion will be accelerated, so just to be safe I used black pipe and painted it and will make sure it doesn't rust. Great question!
Here in the State of Alaska, it is cold @ 12* the area where I live. Planning to install next year a 14KW Generac generator about 5/6 months from order time; I'm not in any rush. Why 14 KW, it will run everything in my home, but not sure of the foundation placement, the type. I will follow your installation.
I used the manual and my local ordinances, it worked well- please subscribe!!
Just bought a house in LA and want to get one of these for hurricane season. How loud is this from inside the house? Don't want to piss my neighbors off too bad. Great install
Considering its a generator------you can hear it.......Look up my generator video, I di have one. Please subscribe
Very instructive video but I have a few questions : after installing transfer switch did you install 2 new ground rods for it and did you also run a new cold water ground for it too or can you tie into the existing grounds and just share them from the breker panel?
Used existing 2 ground rods, added separate ground to water line and removed bonding screw from house 200 amp service panel, the bond changed over to the transfer switch.
Profesional nice clean job. May I ask how it took you get done this project including concret pad, gas line and electrical wire? One thing i would say you have to route all electrical grounding electrode conductors that connect grounding electrode or water pipe to the transfer switch and has nothing at the sub-panel (original main panel) before.
I took my time, it took several weeks to complete the install
I observed that the N1, N2 and Neutral coming into the main breaker (before connecting to ATS) appeared too short to be routed to the ATS. How did you address that so there is plenty of length to reach the ATS? Many thanks. Great attention to detail!
I ended up pulling off the house meter and replacing all the wiring with new longer wire.
Would the power company know if you pull your meter off to say, replace your breaker panel, then put it back on?
Great video. Thanks for sharing. For charging the battery on the generator. T1 from gen to T1 on transfer switch ? Is that correct
Yes, that would correct. Page 24 in the Transfer Switch manual
@@JamesF406 thank you, battery charger now working
Just curious , you no longer have 3ft clearance in front of meter pan
Thank you for the feedback!
Exactly this installation is illegal he’s an idiot who doesn’t know what he’s doing
The conduit also has to be buried 18 inches deep the sky is a hack somebody call code enforcement please
And the exhaust Has to be 12 feet away from the window
The meter pan is not a disconnect
How is the noise? Doesn't bother the neighbors, particularly when they are not very far from your home? Are generators of various noise levels? Does it need to be stopped for cooling it off? Who can advise us about the size you need to avoid being "sold" an oversized one?
got a big question the inspector wants load calculation for generator/home . how do i do that for him?
Pretty much use a load calculator, add up all the important appliances and see what the total wattage is. Please subscribe
Just ordered a 22KW as well! How's it been so far?
When you put the oil filter on but it just a little snug it will get tighter as it runs cuz it runs 430 degrees your car only runs 222 filter will tighten as it runs if you put it on tight you'll have a very big problem getting it off later
I didn't see a regulator for the gas. Was it inside the home?
How did you size the 22kw gen to a 200amp ATS?
Connecting to your generator outside, where did you pick up the 1-1/4" flexible elbow from? Have a sku or part number?
I work for a electrical firm, I'll see if I can find a part #
@@JamesF406 that would be awesome, thank you!
@@frangeechhe forgot to check... 3 years ago. 😂
@@joeenzorYUUUP! Thankfully I’m still not waiting. LoL
Curious where you got the control wire from? HD and Lowes don't have many options for 18awg.
I am one of the oldest Generac dealers in the country I helped start the company you can go to Home Depot get number 14 controller thh wire
@@jamesbriley1655 oh, you're using 14ga? An electric supply place has tray cable (the control wire/phase wires bundled together). I think I'm gonna use that. Thanks for the response. Good install. Your video helped me.
Got a question for you. I want to prerun the conduit and connecting wire that goes from the transfer switch to the generator (natural gas 22k). Could you please tell me exactly what type of wire to use. One vid said Romex 10-2. Just wasn't sure if that was enough, or if you needed more than one. Thanks for the help.
Yes, I can help, give me a few, how about sending me a text tomorrow and I can send you pics and wire sizes. 616-401-2591 James
@@JamesF406 can you send me that same information through text 404-992-3084 I'm a little confused with the wire size some say 4/0 or number 4 awg size. Thanks
Do you have the manual, that is what I used.
@@lebowenman1 yes
I just had one installed, is it necessary to have a rain gutter above it? If the generator itself is set out away from the roof
I have no idea but sounds like a very good idea to me, it will help keep a lot of the moisture away from the generator and generator base. I would do it.
Should we run SER cable from transfer switch to main panel? And remove the main bonding screw, install a separate ground bar in panel ?
Never mind. I saw you did. I only watched hay of the video. My bad. Good job.
What size Aluminum wire did you use from the generator to the transfer switch? My mom has a 90ft run from generator to panel. I was thinking 4/0 AWG Aluminum. Curious to what you used. And I think you missed a "drip leg" or sediment trap in the gas piping. But I'm no expert.
That's what I come up with on my calculator with a 1% voltage drop for using copper.(#4 AWG) I might go a size bigger for going that distance. I used #3 because my buddy had extra, it's used for industrial 100 amps.
And you are correct about the drip leg for the gas line, lt is inside the generator already installed by the factory:)
@@JamesF406 Sorry, I just looked at some of the video again and didn't realized you said it's internal. Great Video!!
How did you go about getting your utility disconnected so you could run the new mains and get it inspected before putting power back to it? Im currently waiting on my utility to call me back and schedule a outage..... over a week and no call! im tempted to just pull the meter myself..
if I told you I would have to ^%&^%& you....:)
DO The low voltage wires go from transfer switch to the generator?
looks like about 4 or 5 #12's going through a 3/4" conduit?
Yes, sorry just seen this
I bet that thing would appreciate one of those big bodied bronze "true" full port gas valves. Over that little stove gas shut off valve.
Your probably right but it seems happy. 😛
Very informative video, thank you. Have you ever run your generator for an extended period of time during an outage? About how many gallons per hour did the generator burn please?
Yes sir, ran for 24 hours perfectly, it does use a tad bit of oil but it is brand new, rings are probably still seating in. I love you.
Not sure how much natural gas it uses.
So you bonded the ats but where is your bond to the generator? I also noticed you did not install ground rods. Yes rod(S )you need 2. One other thing is I hope you didn't close the wall up with the lb's in there. It's now considered a buried junction box. Why not just 2 90s? And the lb's on top of the ats should be flipped with the cover facing outward , not facing up
😋, I have 2 grounds rods that we already installed on the house electrical and the ground from the generator goes to the ground lug on the ATS, we are good😉
You need at lest 1 right next to the gen pad and you still have issues with lb's in wall
@@joehorzempa7175 thanks for the update...didnt realize that.
@@joehorzempa7175 @James Foster LS3 TA Code Reference? Generac gensets have a floating neutral and are not a separately derived system. Generac gensets use the buildings GES. An auxiliary driven grounging electrode may be required for lightnig protection by a manufacturer.
Why is a 200A ATS used when the generator is limited to about 140 amps. Is the house main 200amps?
Good question, you have to use load sheading relays or just make sure to not run everything if you have high amp appliances, I have a 220 well, polebarn and basic gas appliances, it's runs everything.
The adaptor used to transition from the flex conduit to the rigid conduit, what are they called and what brand?
They are PVC couplers, most home depots or lowes has them.
@@JamesF406 Thanks...just used some good old brain power and figured out the solution.
The question I asked is one of the most widely asked.
Great install! Are you still happy with the big purchase.
Yes sir, so far so good.
3 years later, still no cons, love it!
Excuse my ignorance, but why did you first put those small stones on the bottom and not simply pour the crete directly on the ground? Thanks!
Kinda acts likes a cushion as the ground is so hard, normally you would use sand under concrete, probably didnt really matter for something so small like this pad was, I also added a small piece of rebar just to help with eliminating cracking. Good question👍
During the winter in the north when the ground freezes water accumulated under the concrete tends to heave and move the pad. After a few years the whole thing would be crooked. Crushed stone helps keep the water away.
How did you extend the utility coming in, was it spliced ? If so did you use barrel lugs ?
No splices, ran new wire.
James Foster LS3 TA what is the wire size you used from load side of transfer switch to service
Thank you... ur video Inspired me to do my own install, and I’m halfway through.
I have a run of 26 feet from ATS to the generator, kind of close to what your run is. If you used aluminum wire which AWG did you use? One more question, for the control wires I can use 18 AWG, which control wire gauge do use? The only 18 AWG wires that I see in Lowe’s and Home Depot r thermostat wires? Is that what you used?
Hi, good for you, I used copper but they should be able to help you, I just looked it up online in my NEC book but google is awesome.
I also used 16 gauge wire.
@@JamesF406
Thanks, got the wire with the controls cable together fm our local electric store, genset wire for 22kw.
Again, thanks for the video, it rocks.
Best wishes & stay safe.
@@generalbucks8346 awesome!!! Good deal and thank you!!!
Dude i install a 16 or 22kw system in 13 hours and i self taught myself on everything.
Yea? Bs. I’m guessing it’s all above ground piping and conduit , with splices and butt connectors.
r u sure 3/4" gas line is enough for 22kw ? that's a lot of BTU. I know it is close to meter but still 1"-1" 1/4 would be better ...
How many pokes did you get playing in the live 200 amp panel. Also.......pretty sure you should heat shield those wires you fed through the heat shield near the exhaust manifold.
🤣, I shut off the main when I separated all the grounds, and yes, that's a good idea, I am kind of surprised they didnt have a dedicated path for those wires.
Did you extend the main service line?
Great share!
Larry
Thank you, yes I did have to extend the gas line, most would of done it outside, I did it in the basement, it was a cleaner install for me.
Perfect it works you are the chobi man
Great video. Dizzy watching it but good info
I love all of the comments about how it wouldn't pass per their local code 😂
Yeah no one cares about your local code. Go tell your local inspector about this video and see how much he doesn't care just like the rest of us don't.
Amen on that!!!!!!!
@@JamesF406 Everything is fine, the only thing I don't like is the noise that the generator makes. that will aggravate my neighbors if I put one in my house with the noise it makes
@@oscarlizama7495 go without power then
At which points throughout this whole circuit did you ground?
When you have propane you should always put a drip in because you will get a water load in the system because there is water in the propane to help push it along the system in time it will freeze up your fuel regulator and eventually you will have issues with your fuel pump
Explain why you have to separate grounds and neutral in breaker box please
It's all about bonding, the bonding needs to occur in the primary disconnect electrical enclosure and that was the main one until I added the generator disconnect, once that happened the bonding (combining the ground and the neutral) now happens in the generator panel therefore by Michigan code you have to separate them from what was the main circuit breaker box, also if you any other breaker box's IE polebarn, they also need to be separate. If you need more information I can dig up the code out of the electrical book. Hope's this help. James.
@@JamesF406 you wont pass an electrical inspection if they aren't separated with the grounds bonded to the can.
Mine was not grounded to rods. Said it was not needed. Passed inspection. The installer and inspector talked about it.
That is a code requirement for subpanels; adding that main panel then made the existing panel a subpanel.
No rebar?
Awesome video. Thanks for sharing your hard work.
You should have run all of your electrical connections through your in house water filter next to the panel. I'm surprised you didn't do that. That's what Generac recommends.
Shouldn't that Teflon tape be yellow?
did you install a shedding device? I got a couple questions if I can run by you?
No but I would like to add a lean too at some point....however its been fine so far......Please subscribe
I live in Fremont Michigan if you were to take on a side job. How much would you charge to do the wiring part of the install ? 🤔 Fine job looks professionally done.
I'll ask my electrcian friend, he does it on the side.
Talked with my friend, if you are serious we can stop over and have a look and talk about it.
If you’re using copper for 200 Amp Service the small size you can use is 3/0 by code, if you’re using aluminum service entrance cable 4/0..
table 310.12 says otherwise.
2/O THHN all day long
question I have a heat pump 16 seer 2 stage dual compressor lennox and a well with a 1 hp pump and a electric water heater and the rest of the house is 2.6 studs with 6 feet of insulation in the attic and floors are insulated ,double pane windows .Only propane available here would this one run my house We are senior citizens in our late 60's and winter is getting scarier for us .We keep air on in the summer at 76 and winter the same for heat .We live in southside VA House is all led bulbs and all energy efficient appliances
Sorry, I have no idea but the Generac folks are awesome to work with, they answered a lot of my questions.
Just installed my new 22k and the engine bad right out of the box!
😥, so sorry to hear that, mine has been running great. Must of been a fluke, hopefully they replace it hassel free. You will be happy once it online. Generac sells a ton of them with very little failures, but it does happen.
@James Foster LS3 TA installer said has seen several this year.
@@chada472 that sucks, must have something to do with the parts shortage, building them faster is not always the best.
What size on concrete slab? Thank you
3 x 5 foot
3' x 5' worked perfect
I find this video very informative
Beautiful work only thing I see (which I don't understand) is according to Mike holts the generator should not be set in or within 10 ft of meter nor in front 🤔? Nice work
Thank you, not sure about that either.
I am a Generac dealer I would ask you look over your installation manual. Your pad must be at least 10’ from any house opening - the window appears much closer than that. By code you must be at least 36” from any serviceable electric, I think you probably are ok for that.
Yes sir, I used the measurements in your manual for those requirements, so far everything is within tolerance and I love this generator! Thank you for commenting!
The fuckin' pad does NOT need to be 10 fuckin' feet from any house opening.
@@243wayne1 Wayne, why are you so angry? You are right the pad can be whatever from an opening. 100s of people die every year from carbon monoxide poisoning. Virtually all were unaware of the danger. I was just pointing out that keep the generator 10 ft from any opening to prevent any possibility of poisoning. Being a dealer or not is irrelevant.
36" working clearance would be required in front of disconnecting equipment....a meter enclosure isn't a means of disconnect so he's good. Now if it was a switch on that enclosure then the 3' rule applies. Also, I went through the Generac training earlier this yr....I thought the clearance from openings was 5'...did that change...I'm brushing up on my knowledge, have my first install approaching.
In New York in my town gen must 20' from window & house & propane must 10' from ignition source
Did you put mesh grid drop-in in the concrete? Also, from the looks of it you might need a new cable modem. That thing looks old AF. Very nice work 💯
😁, no mess but did put in several piece of rebar.
I have Installed a few Generac systems . On one system everything worked perfect with the smart system switch. fast forward to about a 2 weeks ago client lost power, generator started but smart switch did not switch over to Gen power! I came out and check everything could not find a problem, have you ever heard of a smart switch being replaced? Also Generac does not have a very good tech support help, little disappointing.
Negative, Sorry to hear that. I have not.
Looks good but it’s actually illegal to put LB conduit bodies in a wall. They have to be readily accessible
So what was the cost of purchase and installation? I know it varies but im looking for a ball park. Thanks
My best guess would be 8K up to 10K for a turnkey solution. I had roughly 6k Material and lots of labor hours 😁
@@JamesF406 Thanks. I have someone from generac telling me $10,000 to $20,000. This seems kinda high.
Can you make a update video? Like pros and cons of the generator
Yes sir, so far only 25 hours ran, no cons just yet only pros, we always have power😁, although I wish it would run longer when it exercises itself, 5 minutes doesnt seem long enough. Once it gets warmer, I will make a update video, make sure you subscribe.
@@JamesF406 I ran mine manually to get to recommended hours for first oil change so I could go to synthetic oil. Shipped with lightweight break in oil. I agree it would be nice to run longer each week. 15-20 minutes would be preferable...
@@chuckquinn8026 I would also like to change over to Synthetic. I need to look it up, not sure how long the break in period is.
Well done, thank you
That's probably way more than you need. Remember, the more wattage it puts out the more fuel it requires. I'm getting one put in next week. The only fixed generators they had left were something like this. I saved THOUSANDS by going with a portable that was more tailored to my needs.
The only issue with a portable is when you start having them run for a long. Of time they start breaking down and they are very hard to repair and get back to normal once they start breaking down they keep breaking down I agree. Many many Portables because they are not good enough to handle the load I do not recommend a portable for the whole house
Installing a stand by generator can add up to 5% equity to your house. It’s an investment that pays for itself. Portable generators don’t do that
If you are doing the piping with the wire it is much easier to put the wire in a long as you are putting the pipe in it is much much easier when you get to 90 degree curve it is very hard to pull the wire you can't break the strands on the THHN wire and cause yourself many difficulties so what is better as you put the pipes together pull the wire along with you
I was wondering if the unit is placed to close to the house (fire hazard). How far is it from the house and does it meet code?
Yes, there are code measurements listing in the installation manual and mine does meet those requirements....barely
I forget those measurements but will report them to you, stay tuned.
Where is your ground rod and bonding the gas pipe
Can you use 7.5 kw on a 200 Amp service with auto transfer witch?
Need some major load shedding relays 😁
This gave me a headache to watch. But I also install these day in day out. I would have put that ats outside next to the electrical meter. Saved money on wire and materials and time. The gas line I would’ve done an 1-1/4 and ran it straight across the wall outside less holes into the house. But overall good job for a diy enjoy it
Agreed with you, this dude used LBs inside. I'm still wondering how he got the meter pulled and replaced without an inspection. In Georgia, the power company will not replace the meter without a inspection
Christian Ingram - in my area, the inspection is performed by a third party electrical underwriter that you (or your electrician) hire yourself; the underwriter inspects and sends the electric utility company that it passed.
here in my county of iowa that unit must be no closer than 5'. yours is well inside that.