Or in the clinch, behind the head,or weren't full punches. All things that technically should not count on the scorecard Edit: and the hammer fist too. I just rewatched some of the fight and this man was throwing hammer fists too lmao
@@fractalwalrus5409 The beard is hardly extra padding, It does make range harder though, But a beard, especially not a really long beard will not cushion anything
The judges score power punches so Fury won 5 of the first 6 rounds only dropping the second round to Usyk. I had Fury winning the fight 114-113 the same as one of the judges.
@@nickyfurlano8531according to compubox , as far as the power punches are concerned, Fury outlanded Usyk in rounds 4,5,9 and 10. The twelwth round was even.
Nah man, we Tyson Fury fans need to deal with it as a man. Tyson Fury gave it his best shot but Usyk is just to good for him. Big props to Usyk who is in my eyes now truly the rightful best Heavy Weight out there.
This is pathetic. Uzyk landed more punches in 10 of the 12 rounds. These judges are not corrupt. The Artificial intelligence was not biased and had Uzyk winning 118-110. Fury threatened and mouthed off at how he was going to smash Uzyk, send him to hospital, retire him and he didn't walk the walk. It could have been a draw and that was the best Fury could hope for. Most rational boxing fans had Uzyk winning by a few rounds. Fury fans need to accept he is not the best heavyweight of his generation. And the only fight now is Joshua, where they fight for the title of second best heavyweight or the best British heavyweight. Uzyk is a different level, and an all time great now.
Imo judges should be allowed to score rounds 10:10. That would sort out most of the issues. You had some 10:10 rounds here that there was no clear winner. But from 6 onwards Tyson won only one round.
I scored it 116-114 in favour of Usyk. Tyson showed a much different version of himself compared to his performance in May but Usyk is just the all around better boxer he has the better boxing brain he is a very hard opponent to deal with for most of these heavyweights these days
@CellSaga574 okay bro you can say whatever you want but it just makes it clear you have no idea how to judge boxing fairy won the rounds I listed like why the f*** does arguing that even matter when usyk dominated him
Dubois had one good moment, he's foolish and naive in general and so is his trainer, pumping him up with false confidence. Usyk will make him pay dearly for the disrespect calling their fight a robbery, just minutes after his fight.
This is my worry for Dubois in general. Yes he beat AJ, but in my opinion, AJ looked incredibly bad on that night, I could’ve seen any number of people beating AJ on the night. Frank warren is clearly lining up Dubois to be his next shining star and that’s fine, but Dubois has plenty of flaws in his game that boxers like Usyk expose. Whether or not you wanna argue about the low blow thing is irrelevant, the ref called it and that’s why Usyk took his 5 mins. Besides that, Dubois lost every round and actually quit after he was getting picked up left and right. One punch is not enough to beat Usyk. Dubois lacks a lot of technique and leaves himself open for counters too much. Even at 37-38, Usyk would comfortably beat him.
Dubois quit on a jab. The low blow was a low blow Usyk did make a meal of it but within the rules. Dubois looking for a payday Saudi dosh so fair play. Same result!
@@nicowins Was it ever stated somewhere it was on the groin? In boxing every hit under the belt line (under the navel) is a low blow, if I am not mistaken.
The narrative seems to come from the biased commentary on SkySports and TNT. Commentary on those were giving Fury a lot of credit when he was hitting the gloves of Usyk, so that gets into the minds of the viewer. SkySports also did a viewer scorecard submitted by viewers and averaged, it was clearly biased towards Fury so it creates a false narrative. It just goes to show how people can believe something if it's reinforced enough... then after the fight there were a lot of british analysts saying Fury was robbed so the fans then bandwagon that take too.
I'm a die-hard Fury Fan. I had it 5 rounds for Fury & 7 rounds for Usyk. This is from someone who bet $250 that Fury would win by decision. Uysk was just a much better boxer
Ouch, that is what happens when you bet with your heart instead of your head. I bet £100 on Usyk to win by UD, at 11/4 odds, and won £375 as a result. I made that bet because I didn't see either fighter being knocked out, so it would go the distance. I bet on Usyk because he is a better boxer AND he has better stamina. And I bet on UD because I figured after the last fight and the roasting one of the judges got, that this time they would be more honest (as the first fight should have been UD to Usyk as well). I used my head to bet on the most logical outcome, rather than the outcome I wanted (which would have been Fury KOd to make it decisive).
I just don’t get why Fury didn’t use his size like he did against Wilder who is a lot bigger than Usyk who is small fo RC a heavyweight. If he can do it against a bigger man why can’t he do it against Usyk?
@@MrChippiechappieHow many times will people say the same thing over and over untill they realise that you simply cant use that tacktic against a man with footwork like Usyk? We can all see that Usyk eats up the bigger man. i actually think that parker will give Usyk his biggest chalange.
Tyson didn’t go all in . He looked like a guy playing safe instead of going for it. That means you are vulnerable to a ko when you unleash . It’s all about timing .
I agree, I thought Usyk would win, but I also thought Fury had a chance of winning, but only if he went for broke and either stopped Usyk or got stopped himself later in the fight, I can't see Fury ever out boxing him over 12 rounds
I think round 9 of the last fight had scared fury. He looked terrified of getting caught by Usyk’s left hand. He never looked like he wanted to go all out with him. I think he was hoping if he could survive the 12 rounds and not be hurt too badly that the judges would give it to him
@Welshman007 si he needs a 3rd try to go all in? How many rematches will there be till you learn that fury just loses against usyk. This was a rematch where he lost the 1st time around and now again
@@imadrunk3576 can you imagine if Usyk had lost twice and promoters were calling for a third fight lol. I bet if fury won the first fight he would’ve ran so fast away from Usyk and never done the rematch. Usyk has been more than fair to Fury and his team.
I just hate these two situations: 1.- when they call a robbery every time their favourite boxer loses 2.- when that boxer gets the loss and people inmediatly start saying "he should retire"
Wrong - Tyson Fury fans, in the comments section of every video I've watched, are saying they are glad Usyk won. It's only the UK boxing contingent who were there on the night who acted like sore losers. We all love Usyk - how could you not? The man's a legend & genuinely the nicest person too.
By coming in at that weight he clearly had just one game plan - knock Usyk out. He clearly forgot he can't knock (many) people out. Hence he'd lost before the bout even started. Being extra big and heavy against a boxer so dynamic and multi-angled as Usyk was madness.
His wilder trilogy made him even more delusional. He targeted wilders earn to make him balance. Fury is a horrible human and a cheater. I hope he does it this time.
No Robbery!!! Tyson tried to outbox the better boxer, instead of being at force to reckon with. Hey man!!! You are 6 foot nine with great boxing skills so overpower him with your size and skill. You had him so many times, but just let off the gas pedal . Fucking frustrating. he’s trying to outpoint the better boxer. His trainer was even yelling at him in the corner that he gave rounds away . So how could he think that he won that fight?
I’m from uk love fury but he lost the fight fair and square usyk is unbelievable he’s beat everybody his achievements speak for themselves deffo best of his generation massive respect!
You are correct you’re not allowed to leave a straight arm out in front of your opponent, and you are not allowed to do an upwards-flicked jab which Fury did multiple times too, but that’s for the referee to intervene. If the ref allows it the first time might as well keep doing it
They're both allowed. As for the Jab if its a back hand its illegal. If you strike with the knuckles it's perfectly legal. Otherwise the up-jab wouldn't be a thing. As for framing and posting. Its nowhere near as strict as amateurs boxing but a long guard and the arm out stretched is allowed within reason but its down to the referee.
Exactly, a highly technical fight... a masterclass from Usyk... Fury try to adapt, try many things... nothing worked... Usyk was too slick, too fast, too evasive for Fury
It was a close fight but the Challenger has to do ALOT more to take the Champions belts. The right Man won... again. Tyson will NEVER admit he lost he knows the deep dark abyss of depression he will fall into if he does. Bipolar disorder and boxing are a terrible combination.
@fractalwalrus5409 It was closer than that Usyk is good landed shots towards the end of a round so the judges only remember what they last saw, ( instead of what has happened early on in the round ) he's clever.
Absolute horseshit ,watched it twice on replay no volume and scored it 7-5 to Usyk both times ,alot of very close rounds but still clear enough to seperate them
no i disagree, i want agit kabayel vs Zhilie Zhang for the WBC Heavyweight title Martin bakole vs Kubrat pulev for the super WBA title instead and also how about AJ or Tyson fury vs Zhilie Zhang for the WBO heavyweight title, to see witch one will take on zhang, if zhang loses against agit
Everyone seems to forget dubios has a fight with parker in February, he's not guaranteed to win that. Dubios will regret overlooking parker the way he did on Saturday
putting his hand in usyks face, grabbing usyks glove, holding Usyk down to get some hits, Fury didn't look like a boxer at all, looked like a professional pub fighter. " hOw dID hE oNLy gEt 4 rOUndS?!"
Shaun I (we) had a great time on your Live stream last night! Great commentating and just a fun time to listen you and watching the fight at the same time. I will be there again next time. Thank you for doing this!
The AI had Usyk wining something like 118 to 112 while all the judges: Gerardo Martinez 116-112 Patrick Morley 116-112 Ignacio Robles 116-112 all had him sinning to. Ai is more or less not biased... Its a computer.
@@Writeous0ne No, but it shows that it’s subjective when the fight is at this level and very, very close. On the second watch, it looked closer to me, and now, after watching it back one last time, I’m struggling to score it as anything more than maybe one additional round for Uysk. The scorecard wasn’t good, and the judges gave too many rounds to Uysk.
Fury looked good but just too heavy. Once I knew what his weight was I said well there went his chances. He needed to be loose agile bounce around like he did the first fight in order to have a chance
Both guys are great people, Tyson is truly a big teddy bear. Don't know why he gets so much hate when his opponents have nothing but great things to say about him.
I really like your videos not just because of the insight and unbiased fight analysis, I appreciate the thought you put behind the structure of whatever you are going to say in your videos. You lay things out in a logical concise way that is thorough and easy to follow.
2:43 Keeping your hand out is not legal. Neither is holding the ropes or clinching just to clinch(excessive clenching) but Tyson has always gotten away with it. Even the beard at that length is technically in the rule book, but if both camps dont care, I guess there's no problem. Tyson almost never gets a warning for anything. 7:53 If those punch stats are correct, Fury only out landed Usyk in 1 round... my god. I havent even watched it yet. 10:58 If you cant put Usyk in the history books for what he has done. Take Hollyfield out of them. Dont try to discredit the man at this point. I didnt think anyone would beat Tyson Fury... but here we are. 11:48 I mean, didnt Usyk beat Dubois pretty handily. Say what you want about the low blow, the ref said it was low. There was no count. Rules state 5 minute recovery time. Argue with a sign post about it. We have seen the fight, stills and slow mos, it was low.
Have you noticed how tiny Usyks head is compared to the rest of his body? That’s why he’s so hard to hit/hurt.. He has the smallest head i’ve ever seen..
2:45 it's called a long guard. It is normally allowed to be done for a longer period in professional fighting, but in Amateur, you are not allowed to. In amateurs, you can have your lead hand in front of the opponent face for like 1 second but if you hold it longer or do it a lot, the ref will call it out
You don’t need to match the output or cardio of Usyk, that’s his game, you need the power to keep him of you and slow him down. Tyson would send him out on a stretcher if he punched like say George Foreman. Instead he’s pillow handed pitter patter good boxer.
You can definitely extend your left hand out when defending punches from your opponent. George Foreman used the ‘long guard’ very famously to smother his opponents. It’s just very risky because the opponent could land a hook around your extended arm and hit you in your exposed face, so you need to have good reactions in order to roll with the punch and roll your right shoulder up to protect your head from the hook
@ yeah but if you’re fighting someone of a similar size and reach then they definitely have the opportunity to get around your long guard. If it was such an unfair advantage then all the boxes would do it but you have to have very good reactions in order to improvise if they get around your long guard. Fury was opting for a long guard, especially in the first fight against us and kept getting around it and hitting him on the left side of his face which was unprotected.
Nobody has mentioned this. Fury threw loads of illegal back hands and Usyk told the ref (who wasn't interested) and he also kept grabbing him behind his neck and rabbit punchin him loads...also illegal. I also noticed this stuff bro
For me, Fury won rounds 1, 4, and 9. Each time, Usyk would adjust and come back to start winning. In the first three rounds, Usyk was making Fury miss, and messing with him using the level changes and feints. Round 4 Fury pulled out the uppercut, which that first one was his best shot of the fight, he also landed a good one in the fifth, but Usyk had learned how to neutralize it completely by round 8. Round 9 Fury tried to go and walk him down, throw more and harder shots, but again after round 9 Usyk adjusted and started blocking the shots and moving to out angle Fury all the time. A couple of the rounds were close so I'm not surprised if Fury got some more rounds. But yeah, compubox and jabbr both highlight the difference in punches landed. Fury only looked bad against Usyk because its Usyk... I like the idea of Fury vs AJ now. Both coming off loses, both losing to Usyk too. We didn't get to see them fight as champions, but this is a great time for them to fight now.
I agree with you about Usyk should begin clearing out the remainder of the heavyweight division (because he can) but mate he’s already an all time great. You don’t become undisputed at Cruiserweight and heavyweight to then be told you need to prove more. Usyk doesn’t need to prove anything
It was a minimum 8 rounds won by Usyk... I had him winning 9 rounds... The weight gained worked against Fury. He should of been more aggressive & hounded Usyk... But Tyson was getting beat in punches & conditioning as the fight went on. There was no robbery.
Fury threw in everything but the kitchen sink to get the victory, but it simply wasn’t enough. I can understand how this messes with the psyche’s of both Fury and AJ because on paper both of them have all of the attributes to make light work of Usyk, but get in the ring with the man and he just showcases how superior he is as a boxer. Fury even used dirty tactics like backhands and rabbit punches in the clinch, but it did nothing to influence the outcome. There is no dispute that Usyk is the man at both cruiser weight and HW, it’s just that simple.
Fury came up short. While I was hopeful about his trainer, I have stated for the longest time that Sugar Hill is all wrong for Tyson Fury. Fury lacked the specific footwork, tactics, technique, and skillset needed to defeat someone like Usyk. No one will ever outbox Usyk. However no one should ever be too simplistic in fighting Usyk either. Someone like Fury still needs a mildly diverse strategy in order to defeat this southpaw. More importantly, Fury showed no aggressiveness in the early and mid-rounds. He should have actively pursued Usyk and he did not. He should have utilized a limited variety of long range jabbing and he did not. He should have constantly come forward with a tight guard with gloves at his face and he did not. He backfooted too often and he also leaned back too often. All that did cost him dearly. In all due fairness to Hill, Hill did tell Fury not to do that and yet Fury did. Again when Fury was not able to put Usyk on his backfoot, these things do happen.
He was gassed mate, Or more to the point his arms were fucked, He was having allot of joy by putting his lead arm out infront of him and palming usyk away and keeping him at distance, Come the 6th round he could no longer hold his arm out, And he didnt do it at all for the 2nd half of the fight and he ended up resorting to keeping his hands tight to him and putting his guard up and trying to tie usyk up without much success. Holding your arm out for that length of time with those gloves on and carrying extra weight aint a easy task, I task anyone to hold a can of coke out infront of them, or a empty glass, You will be feeling it within a few minutes, Nerve compression, blood circulation, joint strain, Your arm aint supposed to be out there. And on the punch stats, 78 of those Usyks shots landed were body shots, This is not Olympic point scoring and should not be judged that way, Fury welcomes body shots from smaller opponents, Always has done, He walks into them and through them, 78 innefective Point scoring body shots, Fury is physically unable to hit Usyk with a body jab, He can hook to the body, But physically he's too big to jab, Usyk won by 1 round imo.
@@dieselpowerdiesel4994 you misread. It’s not that he’s 280 6’9. It’s that he has a giant advantage on his opponent. If usyk was as big as fury he would have washed him. Same with wilder. Francis destroyed him because for the first time he fought a bigger stronger man.
@@MMAMonke And you miss the point. If UYSK was the same size as Fury he would be much slower and not as nibble. Its not even like fury is 280 of perfect weight, half of that 280 is pure fat and will a disadvantage as a whole. if Fury was 260 and in prime condition, to the point that UYSK is, Fury would beat UYSK. Fury never trains hard enough.
@ he is in shape. He was in better shape this time than the first one lol. Size is always an advantage. If you lose despite being bigger it’s because you suck lol. That’s why weight classes exist
The only thing with Usyk clearing out the division, if people don’t give him the credit he deserves now, which I know you do, those people won’t see him wiping up the dross as anything to change their minds. Father Time is undefeated, so eventually Usyk might be caught by a rogue punch, which wouldn’t be a fair end to his career. Great video. Good insight.
Tyson shouldn't retire but he should take some time off and come back and do celebrity / exhibition / influencer fights. The only competitive fight he has left is against AJ for who the 2nd best is behind Usyk. He can fight ngannou again or jon jones or one of the Paul's or kill Mike tyson his dad's hero.
Usyk is legendary, we are blessed to all be witnesses of his incredible journey as a boxer. Fury fans gonna hate and call robbery until they watch the match again and realize nothing was stolen from anyone here, Fury was good, better than he has been in the past 2 years, but against Usyk it still wasn't enough.
I'm English, so in my heart, I wanted Fury to win, but my head sided with Usyk. There can be no doubt that Fury is a great fighter, but Usyk is better in every department. There isn't much between them, but it is enough to be noticeable. I think the right man won. What's more, given Usyk's amateur pedigree (He has been involved in a wild amount of matches for a modern-day fighter, akin to boxers of old). I also think the more dedicated fighter won. Fury, in his own words, boxes for the money. Usyk boxes for passion. Considering his multi weight ability, too. There is a certain poetry to Usyk winning these fights.
The problem is going in with a favourite is that you'll be biased. 'Clearly my fighters hit landed' 'Ah the guy didnt score cleanly!' It scues the whole narrative of the fight in that personals mind. Go in to be objective and come away with a better idea of what actually happened.
Im local to Morecambe and i was cheering for Usyk Saturday night.. He's done zero for the local area and i know many people round here who feel the same as me - used to be a fan but slowly lost respect for him over the years. Hope he does us all a favour and just dissappears now.. Usyk is the man - i don't think he needs to do anything else to cement his legacy, it'd be nice to see the DDD rematch but I'm more excited to see the next generation go at it, looking forward to seeing Itauma again.. Good time to be a boxing fan! 🎉🎉🎉
I was sure too. Usyk is relentless, but Fury is likely to catch him after the fourth round. How many times has Fury committed a foul? Tyson Fury's punches include blows below the belt, head kicks, and back kicks. There is no rule that says someone from Britain is guaranteed to win.
It’s stupidly against the rules you can’t measure, holding your hand out like Tyson. It’s so crazy Fury will have his left arm extended then extend his right arm at the same time
Those people who think that Fury won are the same people who think that Mike Tyson held back against Jake Paul and the fight was rigged. People who prefer to live in their fantasy world where reality can't ever prove them wrong and stick to their beliefs no matter what happens. The others have at least some connection to reality.
I havent had an actual sparring session in my life yet I would claim that both Usyk and Fury looked very very decent and neither was able to school the other. Neither had a round where the punches were landing at will. It was not a boring fight to any degree and I dont think Fury's clinches were that much of an issue. Seen many more boring fights than this. This was not Fury vs Dillyan White or something. It was an energetic fight. Chael Sonnen had a good point about the matter of Fury training very hard yet being 19 lbs heavier than before and yeah that is contraversial but Fury did manage to hold on well till the end. I dont think Fury should retire. His only loses are against the best there is and in neither fight did he look too bad except a single 9th round in 1st fight. Looking down bad in 1 out of 24 rounds is not shameful at all. Its 4% failure rate when calculated. Yeah a fight vs Dubois will be nice. Fury can also fight Dubois and im curious how that fight ends. Its interesting because Fury barely won vs Ngannou who was schooled by AJ and AJ looked worse vs the guy that just beat Fury 2nd time as well. Styles do make fights as we could see. Shame that the Fury vs Whyte fight happent so long after AJs last fight vs Whyte so we cannot measure more. Neither did AJ manage to get in ring with WIlder. Some nubs think that WIlder got a decent chance or makes AJ the underdog lol. Nevermind that. Lets get the AJ vs Fury fight going. AJ definately needs to win vs Dubois if they fight again and do it by KO if he is to rise up again. Yet a Fury win would make AJ go back up very much for sure. Fury is number 2 without a doubt. Dubois is a younger and energetic guy so gosh imagine if dude sticks it to Usyk somehow. It is not out of possibility. Its nice how this younger humble new comer to the heights of boxing has made it work for himself after some upsets. His win over AJ is so good on his resume. If he does Usyk he is putting himself in the freaking sky.
I’ve been following boxing for 50 years and this is the greatest robbery I’ve ever seen in the history of the sport. Heads should roll. Tyson won every round
Not necessarily the biggest fury fan I prefer usyk out the 2 I scored it a draw with fury winning 6-5 going into the last round but there is probs a reason why im not a judge
Bro everything is robbery when their favourite boxer loses 😂
Tell me about it. If fury wins: yeah he's the best. If he loses: he got robbed he deserved the win 😂
100% clowns haha
Everything is fixed mate WAKE UP !.
Hahahaha Yes!
Like lomachenko right
Usyk cleanly won, a lot of shots he took on the elbows or the gloves.
Yeah for every combination fury landed usyk would return it 3-4 times more and landed the cleaner shots
Or in the clinch, behind the head,or weren't full punches. All things that technically should not count on the scorecard
Edit: and the hammer fist too. I just rewatched some of the fight and this man was throwing hammer fists too lmao
lol, so did Usyk. But according to Usyk fans, he gets rounds just for existing
@ your comment makes 0 sense must be why you think fury won lmfao.
@@DCshandle Fury also like to tap-tap-hit, Usyk just hits you. If there was a significant punches stat I'm sure Usyk would tower over Fury.
The only thing Fury won is highest beltline of all time..... I HATE that they allow people to do that in boxing.
extra padding around the gut, extra padding on the chin, nearly 300 pounds.....
@@fractalwalrus5409 The beard is hardly extra padding, It does make range harder though, But a beard, especially not a really long beard will not cushion anything
And with all that it didnt helped him. No wonder he disappeared 5 seconds after the match. The little rabbit got him 😂.
Yeah he looked like a bit of a plonker with his big stupid beard and belt up to his neck! 😂
@@MrBeetsGaming Don't hate the player hate the game, maybe golf is more your thing.
Usyk out landed fury in 11 of 12 rounds and threw less. He landed more and had better defense.
The judges score power punches so Fury won 5 of the first 6 rounds only dropping the second round to Usyk. I had Fury winning the fight 114-113 the same as one of the judges.
@@nickyfurlano8531😂😂😂 you're delusional... Fury hit gloves or arms so many times... that doesn't count as a punch...
@@nickyfurlano8531according to compubox , as far as the power punches are concerned, Fury outlanded Usyk in rounds 4,5,9 and 10. The twelwth round was even.
@nickyfurlano8531 what are you talking about?
All three judges scored it 116-112.
@@nickyfurlano8531nobody cares how a fanboy scores a figh 11:59 t
Nah man, we Tyson Fury fans need to deal with it as a man. Tyson Fury gave it his best shot but Usyk is just to good for him. Big props to Usyk who is in my eyes now truly the rightful best Heavy Weight out there.
Imagine dealing with ANOTHER man’s loss as a “man”
@@jimmynguyen4398imagine humbling a man trying to be humble
😂😂😂 @@jimmynguyen4398
@@jimmynguyen4398 imagine being the 20th million Nguyen lastnamed person on earth. I'd be salty to!
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These aren't boxing fans, but boxer fans.
100%
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This is pathetic. Uzyk landed more punches in 10 of the 12 rounds. These judges are not corrupt. The Artificial intelligence was not biased and had Uzyk winning 118-110. Fury threatened and mouthed off at how he was going to smash Uzyk, send him to hospital, retire him and he didn't walk the walk. It could have been a draw and that was the best Fury could hope for. Most rational boxing fans had Uzyk winning by a few rounds. Fury fans need to accept he is not the best heavyweight of his generation. And the only fight now is Joshua, where they fight for the title of second best heavyweight or the best British heavyweight. Uzyk is a different level, and an all time great now.
What's pathetic? Dude talks about how Fury lost for the whole video
I don't think he was talking about Shaun, more that it's pathetic that anyone's calling it a robbery
@@CJ-gi1jh you fury fanboys are😂
@@StopFakekings your reading comprehension is definitely pathetic 😂
Thankfully we won’t be getting a trilogy 💪
Thankfully? I was honestly hoping fury would get away with a robbery so we could see a 3rd fight😂 I'd watch them go at it 10 times tbh great matchup
@robinzmusic Yes! Tyson met a wall and Usyk met a worthy opponent. Only one of them could take it more seriously than the other and it was Usyk.
@robinzmusic the first fight was great. Second was good but average
Joshua vs Fury is still the biggest fight to make literally 7 years of build up in a fight that’s unpredictable .
I think the second fight was better@Fury851
First the AJ gay boys, now Fury chubby chasers.
Accept the loss from a true master
Usyk is an incredible fighter such a humble and respectful man great role model for future generations he is a true champion 💯 👏
Good one 😂
Using "gay" as an insult in 2024 is embarrassing 😂😂😂
@@ladyincarnate9314 - no, I'm sincere about it
@@systemlfo hahaha ok grandpa. 2002 called. It wants its weak masculinity back 😂
Anyone who thinks it’s a ‘robbery’, respectfully you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and you are still living in fairly land.
Same as those you think usyk won by 4 rounds.....
Imo judges should be allowed to score rounds 10:10. That would sort out most of the issues. You had some 10:10 rounds here that there was no clear winner. But from 6 onwards Tyson won only one round.
@@gpykthey can score it 10/10 its just rare and doesnt happen much
I scored it 116-114 in favour of Usyk. Tyson showed a much different version of himself compared to his performance in May but Usyk is just the all around better boxer he has the better boxing brain he is a very hard opponent to deal with for most of these heavyweights these days
@@GhostC01MMA Dubois will knock him out, again
Fury: R3, R5 & R9.
Usyk won every other round.
Usyk won 18-6 rounds over 24 rounds.
more like 12-0 usyk
The judges were nice on fury
@@babs_xplorerinspire1491 it was 15-0 Usyk
@CellSaga574 okay bro you can say whatever you want but it just makes it clear you have no idea how to judge boxing fairy won the rounds I listed like why the f*** does arguing that even matter when usyk dominated him
Dubois had one good moment, he's foolish and naive in general and so is his trainer, pumping him up with false confidence. Usyk will make him pay dearly for the disrespect calling their fight a robbery, just minutes after his fight.
This is my worry for Dubois in general. Yes he beat AJ, but in my opinion, AJ looked incredibly bad on that night, I could’ve seen any number of people beating AJ on the night. Frank warren is clearly lining up Dubois to be his next shining star and that’s fine, but Dubois has plenty of flaws in his game that boxers like Usyk expose. Whether or not you wanna argue about the low blow thing is irrelevant, the ref called it and that’s why Usyk took his 5 mins. Besides that, Dubois lost every round and actually quit after he was getting picked up left and right. One punch is not enough to beat Usyk. Dubois lacks a lot of technique and leaves himself open for counters too much. Even at 37-38, Usyk would comfortably beat him.
Dubois quit on a jab. The low blow was a low blow Usyk did make a meal of it but within the rules. Dubois looking for a payday Saudi dosh so fair play. Same result!
I guess we will see won’t we . Aj didn’t like
Him much
@@darrenlee3306I don’t think it was a low blow on the groin.
@@nicowins Was it ever stated somewhere it was on the groin? In boxing every hit under the belt line (under the navel) is a low blow, if I am not mistaken.
How can anyone with a brain say that was a robbery 😂
Because Fury fans exist .
Take a moment to visualize a Tyson "Gypsy King" Fury fan. Thinking will not be their strong point, that much is obvious.
The narrative seems to come from the biased commentary on SkySports and TNT. Commentary on those were giving Fury a lot of credit when he was hitting the gloves of Usyk, so that gets into the minds of the viewer. SkySports also did a viewer scorecard submitted by viewers and averaged, it was clearly biased towards Fury so it creates a false narrative. It just goes to show how people can believe something if it's reinforced enough... then after the fight there were a lot of british analysts saying Fury was robbed so the fans then bandwagon that take too.
Fury fans have the brainsize of a peanut😂😂
I'm a die-hard Fury Fan. I had it 5 rounds for Fury & 7 rounds for Usyk. This is from someone who bet $250 that Fury would win by decision. Uysk was just a much better boxer
Just curious (I'm not a gambler) how much you would have won if Fury had got it?
U can give fury 4 at most
Ouch, that is what happens when you bet with your heart instead of your head. I bet £100 on Usyk to win by UD, at 11/4 odds, and won £375 as a result. I made that bet because I didn't see either fighter being knocked out, so it would go the distance. I bet on Usyk because he is a better boxer AND he has better stamina. And I bet on UD because I figured after the last fight and the roasting one of the judges got, that this time they would be more honest (as the first fight should have been UD to Usyk as well). I used my head to bet on the most logical outcome, rather than the outcome I wanted (which would have been Fury KOd to make it decisive).
I just don’t get why Fury didn’t use his size like he did against Wilder who is a lot bigger than Usyk who is small fo RC a heavyweight. If he can do it against a bigger man why can’t he do it against Usyk?
@@MrChippiechappieHow many times will people say the same thing over and over untill they realise that you simply cant use that tacktic against a man with footwork like Usyk? We can all see that Usyk eats up the bigger man. i actually think that parker will give Usyk his biggest chalange.
Tyson didn’t go all in . He looked like a guy playing safe instead of going for it. That means you are vulnerable to a ko when you unleash . It’s all about timing .
I agree, I thought Usyk would win, but I also thought Fury had a chance of winning, but only if he went for broke and either stopped Usyk or got stopped himself later in the fight, I can't see Fury ever out boxing him over 12 rounds
I think round 9 of the last fight had scared fury. He looked terrified of getting caught by Usyk’s left hand. He never looked like he wanted to go all out with him. I think he was hoping if he could survive the 12 rounds and not be hurt too badly that the judges would give it to him
@Welshman007 si he needs a 3rd try to go all in? How many rematches will there be till you learn that fury just loses against usyk. This was a rematch where he lost the 1st time around and now again
@@imadrunk3576 can you imagine if Usyk had lost twice and promoters were calling for a third fight lol. I bet if fury won the first fight he would’ve ran so fast away from Usyk and never done the rematch. Usyk has been more than fair to Fury and his team.
@@davidfairweather3301I felt the same way. He upped his game for sure, but never went all out.
I just hate these two situations:
1.- when they call a robbery every time their favourite boxer loses
2.- when that boxer gets the loss and people inmediatly start saying "he should retire"
Wrong - Tyson Fury fans, in the comments section of every video I've watched, are saying they are glad Usyk won. It's only the UK boxing contingent who were there on the night who acted like sore losers. We all love Usyk - how could you not? The man's a legend & genuinely the nicest person too.
I've noticed the same. The Tyson regime can't bear to see their champion lose his legacy.
By coming in at that weight he clearly had just one game plan - knock Usyk out. He clearly forgot he can't knock (many) people out. Hence he'd lost before the bout even started. Being extra big and heavy against a boxer so dynamic and multi-angled as Usyk was madness.
I think he let the fact he knocked wilder out get to his head. But the thing is wilder has always been an easy knock out for anyone
@@TheChees1996 Plus Wilder can't box! He just has has knockout power from hell.
I think he done it aswell to full on lean on usyk but he can't do it. Even so that much heavier.
His wilder trilogy made him even more delusional. He targeted wilders earn to make him balance. Fury is a horrible human and a cheater. I hope he does it this time.
Ear
No Robbery!!! Tyson tried to outbox the better boxer, instead of being at force to reckon with.
Hey man!!! You are 6 foot nine with great boxing skills so overpower him with your size and skill.
You had him so many times, but just let off the gas pedal .
Fucking frustrating. he’s trying to outpoint the better boxer.
His trainer was even yelling at him in the corner that he gave rounds away .
So how could he think that he won that fight?
He got rocked in the 6th, after that he was more scared of getting KOed that wanting to ko Uzyk
The people calling it a robbery, have been robbed of their braincells 🤓🤡😂
I’m from uk love fury but he lost the fight fair and square usyk is unbelievable he’s beat everybody his achievements speak for themselves deffo best of his generation massive respect!
the only robbery last night was fisher getting the win against allen.
You are correct you’re not allowed to leave a straight arm out in front of your opponent, and you are not allowed to do an upwards-flicked jab which Fury did multiple times too, but that’s for the referee to intervene. If the ref allows it the first time might as well keep doing it
Why is it not allowed ?
@@Cjwize-144 it's not in the spirit of fair play. Sports have rules to make them fair.
The upwards jab is not against the rules.
Well nobody told Lennox Lewis it was illegal cos he used to do it all the time
They're both allowed.
As for the Jab if its a back hand its illegal. If you strike with the knuckles it's perfectly legal. Otherwise the up-jab wouldn't be a thing.
As for framing and posting. Its nowhere near as strict as amateurs boxing but a long guard and the arm out stretched is allowed within reason but its down to the referee.
The hand in front of the face is not only allowed, it used to be common in the old days. The long guard was based on the idea.
This fight would have been boring for casuals. For me, it was a master game of chess. Great display from both fighters. Congrats USYK! 🎉
Exactly, a highly technical fight... a masterclass from Usyk... Fury try to adapt, try many things... nothing worked... Usyk was too slick, too fast, too evasive for Fury
I tip my 🧢 to a person who appreciates the sweet science not just rock'em sock'em robot.
It was a close fight but the Challenger has to do ALOT more to take the Champions belts. The right Man won... again. Tyson will NEVER admit he lost he knows the deep dark abyss of depression he will fall into if he does. Bipolar disorder and boxing are a terrible combination.
"...but the Challenger has to do alot more to take the Champions titles. The right Man won..."
It's true! That's exactly how it works. Period!
How was it a close fight? fury won 4 rounds tops.
@fractalwalrus5409 It was closer than that Usyk is good landed shots towards the end of a round so the judges only remember what they last saw, ( instead of what has happened early on in the round ) he's clever.
Absolute horseshit ,watched it twice on replay no volume and scored it 7-5 to Usyk both times ,alot of very close rounds but still clear enough to seperate them
Was not close
Shame how social media really diluted the meaning of the word "robbery". Loss automatically equals robbery.
You need to explain to fury fans that a 116-112 scorecard has Usyk up by 2 rounds and not 4... they don't understand how scoring works.
Yeah it was 8-4, but if Fury got two of those rounds it would be 6-6. People always forget about that.
@BishyTON exactly, he only won by two rounds, you need 7 to win. Assuming no 10-8 rounds which there wasnt
The next card should be:
Dubois vs Usyk 2
Fury vs AJ
Wardley vs Itauma
Allen v Fisher 2
That’d be on par with beterbiev vs bivol 2 it’d be an amazing card. But you know they’d make fury vs AJ the main event in the UK
Dubois has to beat Parker first
Francis Vs Wilder
no i disagree, i want agit kabayel vs Zhilie Zhang for the WBC Heavyweight title
Martin bakole vs Kubrat pulev for the super WBA title instead
and also how about AJ or Tyson fury vs Zhilie Zhang for the WBO heavyweight title, to see witch one will take on zhang, if zhang loses against agit
Everyone seems to forget dubios has a fight with parker in February, he's not guaranteed to win that. Dubios will regret overlooking parker the way he did on Saturday
I guess people forgot there’s a thing called a “close fight”
It wasn’t close
Like the Hagler Duran fight which I scored a draw. Back in those days the American always got the decision over a foreign boxer in a close fight.
@@Ramp4ge The judges score power punches which gave Fury 5 of the first 6 rounds only dropping the second round to Usyk.
Duran was doing great until Round 12 & then got schooled for the last 3. A shame we never got an in shape Duran against Hearns
@@nickyfurlano8531 didn’t look close to me
It seems like every boxer is getting robbed these days when they loose fair and square 😂😂😂😂
This just shows and proves just how delusional Tyson is
putting his hand in usyks face, grabbing usyks glove, holding Usyk down to get some hits, Fury didn't look like a boxer at all, looked like a professional pub fighter. "
hOw dID hE oNLy gEt 4 rOUndS?!"
Usyk clearly won. If you want to talk about robbery, then Allen fisher should be the dscussion
Fury fan here, the right decision was made...fair play Usyk.
Most of his fans are irish, not surprised they are coping and making excuses
Usyk got robbed of KO by referee
Sounds like Frank Warren gave $20 to anyone that would post about Fury getting robbed. Fury lost, easily.
🎯🎯🎯🎯😂😂😂😂
Shaun I (we) had a great time on your Live stream last night! Great commentating and just a fun time to listen you and watching the fight at the same time. I will be there again next time. Thank you for doing this!
Appreciate it bro. Thanks for the support and tuning in 🤜🤛
Love the vids but you should buy a pop filter for the mic it would make it sound so much clearer
The AI had Usyk wining something like 118 to 112 while all the judges: Gerardo Martinez 116-112 Patrick Morley 116-112 Ignacio Robles 116-112 all had him sinning to.
Ai is more or less not biased... Its a computer.
But the judges all had different rounds where they gave the fighters 10's
The picture of the scorecard shows 115-112, 114-113 and 113-114 split decision
@@dieselpowerdiesel4994 so? Do you expect them all to be identical?
@@Writeous0ne No, but it shows that it’s subjective when the fight is at this level and very, very close. On the second watch, it looked closer to me, and now, after watching it back one last time, I’m struggling to score it as anything more than maybe one additional round for Uysk. The scorecard wasn’t good, and the judges gave too many rounds to Uysk.
Fury looked good but just too heavy. Once I knew what his weight was I said well there went his chances. He needed to be loose agile bounce around like he did the first fight in order to have a chance
This fight was a technical masterpiece 👌
Both guys are great people, Tyson is truly a big teddy bear. Don't know why he gets so much hate when his opponents have nothing but great things to say about him.
Because you're clearly a fury fanboy, there are quite a lot of reasons not to like fury, mainly him being a massive prick and sore loser.
real ones know tyson fury is on a 3 loss streak, ngannou beat him and was ACTUALLY robbed
I really like your videos not just because of the insight and unbiased fight analysis, I appreciate the thought you put behind the structure of whatever you are going to say in your videos. You lay things out in a logical concise way that is thorough and easy to follow.
Only the casuals think usyk lost 😂
2:43 Keeping your hand out is not legal. Neither is holding the ropes or clinching just to clinch(excessive clenching) but Tyson has always gotten away with it. Even the beard at that length is technically in the rule book, but if both camps dont care, I guess there's no problem. Tyson almost never gets a warning for anything.
7:53 If those punch stats are correct, Fury only out landed Usyk in 1 round... my god. I havent even watched it yet.
10:58 If you cant put Usyk in the history books for what he has done. Take Hollyfield out of them. Dont try to discredit the man at this point. I didnt think anyone would beat Tyson Fury... but here we are.
11:48 I mean, didnt Usyk beat Dubois pretty handily. Say what you want about the low blow, the ref said it was low. There was no count. Rules state 5 minute recovery time. Argue with a sign post about it. We have seen the fight, stills and slow mos, it was low.
Fury fan here, he lost. End of
Have you noticed how tiny Usyks head is compared to the rest of his body? That’s why he’s so hard to hit/hurt.. He has the smallest head i’ve ever seen..
haha thats what i thought. but yeah, when you combine it all and the angles and the change in levels he is extremely hard to hit.
Rule #1 - don’t leave it to the judges
Can't belive he said he win that fight again......Usyk is simply BETTER
2:46 no it’s not legal to frame with ur hand out u have to immediately pull it back in
2:45 it's called a long guard. It is normally allowed to be done for a longer period in professional fighting, but in Amateur, you are not allowed to. In amateurs, you can have your lead hand in front of the opponent face for like 1 second but if you hold it longer or do it a lot, the ref will call it out
You don’t need to match the output or cardio of Usyk, that’s his game, you need the power to keep him of you and slow him down. Tyson would send him out on a stretcher if he punched like say George Foreman. Instead he’s pillow handed pitter patter good boxer.
Usyk is a warrior. Fury has shown in two fights, he doesn’t have what it takes to match that.
Salty fury fans coping
You can definitely extend your left hand out when defending punches from your opponent. George Foreman used the ‘long guard’ very famously to smother his opponents. It’s just very risky because the opponent could land a hook around your extended arm and hit you in your exposed face, so you need to have good reactions in order to roll with the punch and roll your right shoulder up to protect your head from the hook
Yes if you can reach around and catch him 😂 I feel like that extension is unfair and like holding the head of a child so they can’t reach you…lol
@ yeah but if you’re fighting someone of a similar size and reach then they definitely have the opportunity to get around your long guard. If it was such an unfair advantage then all the boxes would do it but you have to have very good reactions in order to improvise if they get around your long guard. Fury was opting for a long guard, especially in the first fight against us and kept getting around it and hitting him on the left side of his face which was unprotected.
Well said Shaun, credit to the judges and Turki. Despite him wanting a trilogy, the judges did a straight job.
Bro them back hands from Tyson when Usyk was coming back out from the inside was blatantly illegal 😮
Nobody has mentioned this. Fury threw loads of illegal back hands and Usyk told the ref (who wasn't interested) and he also kept grabbing him behind his neck and rabbit punchin him loads...also illegal. I also noticed this stuff bro
Yeah I noticed that when we were live. I thought back fists weren't allowed
For me, Fury won rounds 1, 4, and 9. Each time, Usyk would adjust and come back to start winning. In the first three rounds, Usyk was making Fury miss, and messing with him using the level changes and feints. Round 4 Fury pulled out the uppercut, which that first one was his best shot of the fight, he also landed a good one in the fifth, but Usyk had learned how to neutralize it completely by round 8. Round 9 Fury tried to go and walk him down, throw more and harder shots, but again after round 9 Usyk adjusted and started blocking the shots and moving to out angle Fury all the time. A couple of the rounds were close so I'm not surprised if Fury got some more rounds.
But yeah, compubox and jabbr both highlight the difference in punches landed. Fury only looked bad against Usyk because its Usyk... I like the idea of Fury vs AJ now. Both coming off loses, both losing to Usyk too. We didn't get to see them fight as champions, but this is a great time for them to fight now.
Keeping your hand extended is legal in boxing, so long as you aren't making contact with your opponent.
I agree with you about Usyk should begin clearing out the remainder of the heavyweight division (because he can) but mate he’s already an all time great. You don’t become undisputed at Cruiserweight and heavyweight to then be told you need to prove more. Usyk doesn’t need to prove anything
Can he spend some quality time with his family during the holidays? He's just beat the second best heavyweight in the world twice. Calm down.
Usyk won.
Lets not forget the Dubois cringe moment who also had the audacity to say "I want my revenge for the robbery" 😂😂
Usyk was robbed inthe first fight as Fury was clearly TKO'd 3 times in the 9th and the ref didn't call them.
It was a minimum 8 rounds won by Usyk... I had him winning 9 rounds... The weight gained worked against Fury. He should of been more aggressive & hounded Usyk... But Tyson was getting beat in punches & conditioning as the fight went on. There was no robbery.
I kinda thought Usyk was gonna win. Props man! The guy is a beast and deserved it.
Suprised they didn't blame the AI judge 😂
Fury threw in everything but the kitchen sink to get the victory, but it simply wasn’t enough. I can understand how this messes with the psyche’s of both Fury and AJ because on paper both of them have all of the attributes to make light work of Usyk, but get in the ring with the man and he just showcases how superior he is as a boxer. Fury even used dirty tactics like backhands and rabbit punches in the clinch, but it did nothing to influence the outcome. There is no dispute that Usyk is the man at both cruiser weight and HW, it’s just that simple.
You need to cover Eddie HALL vs Brian SHAW arm wrestling match next. Tremendous show of strength.
If you have that much of a size difference and reach difference and don't knockout the smaller opponent then it's an automatic loss to me.
Fury came up short. While I was hopeful about his trainer, I have stated for the longest time that Sugar Hill is all wrong for Tyson Fury. Fury lacked the specific footwork, tactics, technique, and skillset needed to defeat someone like Usyk. No one will ever outbox Usyk. However no one should ever be too simplistic in fighting Usyk either. Someone like Fury still needs a mildly diverse strategy in order to defeat this southpaw. More importantly, Fury showed no aggressiveness in the early and mid-rounds. He should have actively pursued Usyk and he did not. He should have utilized a limited variety of long range jabbing and he did not.
He should have constantly come forward with a tight guard with gloves at his face and he did not. He backfooted too often and he also leaned back too often. All that did cost him dearly.
In all due fairness to Hill, Hill did tell Fury not to do that and yet Fury did. Again when Fury was not able to put Usyk on his backfoot, these things do happen.
He was gassed mate, Or more to the point his arms were fucked, He was having allot of joy by putting his lead arm out infront of him and palming usyk away and keeping him at distance, Come the 6th round he could no longer hold his arm out, And he didnt do it at all for the 2nd half of the fight and he ended up resorting to keeping his hands tight to him and putting his guard up and trying to tie usyk up without much success. Holding your arm out for that length of time with those gloves on and carrying extra weight aint a easy task, I task anyone to hold a can of coke out infront of them, or a empty glass, You will be feeling it within a few minutes, Nerve compression, blood circulation, joint strain, Your arm aint supposed to be out there.
And on the punch stats, 78 of those Usyks shots landed were body shots, This is not Olympic point scoring and should not be judged that way, Fury welcomes body shots from smaller opponents, Always has done, He walks into them and through them, 78 innefective Point scoring body shots, Fury is physically unable to hit Usyk with a body jab, He can hook to the body, But physically he's too big to jab, Usyk won by 1 round imo.
If fury wasn’t 55lbs heavier and 6inch taller he wouldn’t even last a round lol
Truth
SO if Fury wasn't Fury you mean?
@@dieselpowerdiesel4994 you misread. It’s not that he’s 280 6’9. It’s that he has a giant advantage on his opponent. If usyk was as big as fury he would have washed him. Same with wilder. Francis destroyed him because for the first time he fought a bigger stronger man.
@@MMAMonke And you miss the point. If UYSK was the same size as Fury he would be much slower and not as nibble. Its not even like fury is 280 of perfect weight, half of that 280 is pure fat and will a disadvantage as a whole. if Fury was 260 and in prime condition, to the point that UYSK is, Fury would beat UYSK. Fury never trains hard enough.
@ he is in shape. He was in better shape this time than the first one lol. Size is always an advantage. If you lose despite being bigger it’s because you suck lol. That’s why weight classes exist
The only thing with Usyk clearing out the division, if people don’t give him the credit he deserves now, which I know you do, those people won’t see him wiping up the dross as anything to change their minds. Father Time is undefeated, so eventually Usyk might be caught by a rogue punch, which wouldn’t be a fair end to his career. Great video. Good insight.
No robbery, good fight
That accent of yours is bloody brilliant 😂👌
Tyson shouldn't retire but he should take some time off and come back and do celebrity / exhibition / influencer fights. The only competitive fight he has left is against AJ for who the 2nd best is behind Usyk.
He can fight ngannou again or jon jones or one of the Paul's or kill Mike tyson his dad's hero.
Usyk is legendary, we are blessed to all be witnesses of his incredible journey as a boxer.
Fury fans gonna hate and call robbery until they watch the match again and realize nothing was stolen from anyone here, Fury was good, better than he has been in the past 2 years, but against Usyk it still wasn't enough.
I'm English, so in my heart, I wanted Fury to win, but my head sided with Usyk. There can be no doubt that Fury is a great fighter, but Usyk is better in every department. There isn't much between them, but it is enough to be noticeable.
I think the right man won. What's more, given Usyk's amateur pedigree (He has been involved in a wild amount of matches for a modern-day fighter, akin to boxers of old). I also think the more dedicated fighter won. Fury, in his own words, boxes for the money. Usyk boxes for passion. Considering his multi weight ability, too. There is a certain poetry to Usyk winning these fights.
Fury fans talking about robbery when the reff stopped him getting knocked out the 1st fight usyk is machine
Usyk clear winner like despite fury doing well
If theres no knockout people will think its a robbery
The problem is going in with a favourite is that you'll be biased.
'Clearly my fighters hit landed'
'Ah the guy didnt score cleanly!'
It scues the whole narrative of the fight in that personals mind. Go in to be objective and come away with a better idea of what actually happened.
Usyk is the GOAT no doubt. But Fury still beats all the rest
The scorecard should have been closer , but Usyk did win by an edge.
Im local to Morecambe and i was cheering for Usyk Saturday night.. He's done zero for the local area and i know many people round here who feel the same as me - used to be a fan but slowly lost respect for him over the years. Hope he does us all a favour and just dissappears now.. Usyk is the man - i don't think he needs to do anything else to cement his legacy, it'd be nice to see the DDD rematch but I'm more excited to see the next generation go at it, looking forward to seeing Itauma again.. Good time to be a boxing fan! 🎉🎉🎉
I was sure too. Usyk is relentless, but Fury is likely to catch him after the fourth round. How many times has Fury committed a foul? Tyson Fury's punches include blows below the belt, head kicks, and back kicks. There is no rule that says someone from Britain is guaranteed to win.
Usyk is great and accurate on his punches!! He managed the Punches came from Fury!!
It’s stupidly against the rules you can’t measure, holding your hand out like Tyson. It’s so crazy Fury will have his left arm extended then extend his right arm at the same time
Those people who think that Fury won are the same people who think that Mike Tyson held back against Jake Paul and the fight was rigged. People who prefer to live in their fantasy world where reality can't ever prove them wrong and stick to their beliefs no matter what happens. The others have at least some connection to reality.
I havent had an actual sparring session in my life yet I would claim that both Usyk and Fury looked very very decent and neither was able to school the other. Neither had a round where the punches were landing at will. It was not a boring fight to any degree and I dont think Fury's clinches were that much of an issue. Seen many more boring fights than this. This was not Fury vs Dillyan White or something. It was an energetic fight. Chael Sonnen had a good point about the matter of Fury training very hard yet being 19 lbs heavier than before and yeah that is contraversial but Fury did manage to hold on well till the end. I dont think Fury should retire. His only loses are against the best there is and in neither fight did he look too bad except a single 9th round in 1st fight. Looking down bad in 1 out of 24 rounds is not shameful at all. Its 4% failure rate when calculated. Yeah a fight vs Dubois will be nice. Fury can also fight Dubois and im curious how that fight ends. Its interesting because Fury barely won vs Ngannou who was schooled by AJ and AJ looked worse vs the guy that just beat Fury 2nd time as well. Styles do make fights as we could see. Shame that the Fury vs Whyte fight happent so long after AJs last fight vs Whyte so we cannot measure more. Neither did AJ manage to get in ring with WIlder. Some nubs think that WIlder got a decent chance or makes AJ the underdog lol. Nevermind that. Lets get the AJ vs Fury fight going. AJ definately needs to win vs Dubois if they fight again and do it by KO if he is to rise up again. Yet a Fury win would make AJ go back up very much for sure. Fury is number 2 without a doubt. Dubois is a younger and energetic guy so gosh imagine if dude sticks it to Usyk somehow. It is not out of possibility. Its nice how this younger humble new comer to the heights of boxing has made it work for himself after some upsets. His win over AJ is so good on his resume. If he does Usyk he is putting himself in the freaking sky.
I’ve been following boxing for 50 years and this is the greatest robbery I’ve ever seen in the history of the sport. Heads should roll. Tyson won every round
Beautiful fight from elite fighters nothing but skill
Fury threw so many feints but a lot didn’t land that’s what cost him the fight in my opinion Usyk deserved the win 115-113
Love content Jonesy lad, your alright for a scouser!😂 (Manc aren’t I) top notch fella, keep the content coming👍🏻
Ha appreciate it mate 🤜🤛
Not necessarily the biggest fury fan I prefer usyk out the 2 I scored it a draw with fury winning 6-5 going into the last round but there is probs a reason why im not a judge
The least controversial decision I’ve ever seen. Judges called it perfectly.