@@chapman2001 What the fuck are you talking about? Are you saying Oliveira isn't high level? Are you saying Islam isn't high level? Are you saying every single submission ever in the ufc were just flukes? lmao.
See the ironic part is, only people equally trained or highly skilled in other disciplines can mock it. "Just stand up" will get you choked unconscious or your joint deleted in about 3.7 seconds unless you have trained a highly specific set of skills and defenses and counters.
@@thisisgettingold Brazilian jiu-jitsu fans have enculturated ridiculous tactics in "guard play"... standing up and passing from your feet is frowned upon in the gym where they want you to stay on your knees and stick your head in your opponants crotch. Just stand up and channel your inner Sakuraba, "guard play" in sport BJJ is just plain stupid and based on safety for the business not developing fight skills
I remember when he coached on TUF and he was like "CB you better stand tbe fck UP like you in jail and they tryna take yo manhood, like they tryna take yo BOOTY dont be playing no guard" and CB stood his ass up immediately 😂😂
And let’s be real you sit down like that against any guy with basic MT you getting your head kicked off. Absolutely moronic to assume your opponent has no fighting ability
In BJJ strict rules it's alright, but man in a fight or MMA you have to go through a flow chart. Striking, Clench, Make Space, or, Striking, Clench, Takedown, BJJ, Striking, BJJ Striking. You have to be good at all that shit, not just one part.
This is EXACTLY how I feel about BJJ. BJJ only works with the element of surprise. If you go into every fight with the assumption that your opponent is a BJJ master, and all he wants to do is sniff your crotch, then you have reduced the efficacy of BJJ by a significant percentage. LOL
What happens when you can't stand up? Life isn't the same for everyone we are all not juiced up ex mma fighters. Some if us have to deal with stronger, bigger people on top of us.
@@chrisdudedurian1305Am I blind or does Oliveira literally always pull guard or lay on his back at somepoint in his most recent fights? I mean, he beat Gaejthe and Poirer with it, but didn't Islam punish him hard for it? Like choked him tf out or something?
@@garygrapes2329 he doesn't pull guard or lay on his back. That happens cos he gets caught and knocked down that's why he's on the ground but he does that to kinda taunt them and rest a little bit because his grappling is so elite that most guys would rather just wait til the ref stands him up again instead of fighting him on the ground and he gets rest time by doing this. It's a rly smart strat and he's a deadly fighter
for sure. Obviously bjj can be effective, but especially sport bjj has just got silly. it's funny seeing the combat bjj with so many examples of guys on their back trying to lock up someones leg, and the guy on top just postures up and open palm slaps them into unconsciousness lol. If you want something to search for an example lol
What do BJJ blackbelts do when it's 2 or more on 1? Can they run on their a$$es? I have been jumped more than once and trying BJJ - even if I had been trained - would have gotten me killed. Standing up and looking for objects to use,whether stationary (like a wall,parked car,or a tree) or objects which I can mobilize (like a rock),saved my life more than once.
@@sloppyyeggs Oh,you had a choice to run? I stand my ground,but sheet,I'm a Witch,so forget trying to explain it to someone who hasn't had to deal w this kind of stuff multiple times. Eventually you just get f'n pissed and stand your ground when you know you can,period. Can't run forever and sometimes - many times for me,I could not run at all. I know I ain't the only one.
Who beat him with kickboxing and wrestling,also bjj is a fake copy of Japanese jiu jitsu,absolutely useless martial art without help other martial arts
@@jasonelliott3981 you do realise the first ufc was fixed by the Gracie’s don’t you lol,whole thing was a set up for them to win,they picked the fights,also all the fighters thought it was just a fake wrestling thing,they was flown in about 5 days before the tournament no training,Royce conveniently getting the boxer who he took down and quit lol,no damage taken easy fight for next round,why wasn’t Gracie’s in following ufc when everyone knew about it all and wrestlers started coming in ???,we saw what happened to Royce when he fought Matt Hughes who beat the shit out off him and embarrassed him,
@@jamesmiles1328Im not saying that bjj is the end all be all… yes fighters need to know striking wrestling & bjj. But it definitely works unless Gracie’s continue to “pay off” every fighter that loses to a bjj submission.. i wonder how much they had to pay nogueira when frank mir ripped his shoulder to pieces from a kimura.. he just couldve stood up right? Or how about when brock lesnar.. an extremely talented wrestler stepped over mir & got caught in a toe hold & had to tap… yes when then fought the second time.. lesnar beat fuck out of him with his wrestling & strikes… all im saying is there are many fighters that win fights using bjj & i think that knowing a mixture of standup & grappling works best..im sure some people will never agree on this subject.. those that hate bjj.. & someone like me who likes it.
@@jasonelliott3981 your naming all the bjj wins lol,how many losses have they had to ???,dont see any Gracie’s about anymore,like you said won first few because was all fixed and set up for them,Matt Hughes beat down showed that one dimensional fighters are no good,mark coleman would of destroyed him,now im trained in 6 different martial arts had fights in boxing Muay Thai karate judo,also trained in bjj,I know good martial art,but its boring when get deluded people saying bjj the best,as its takedowns suck also don’t get punched kicked or elbowed in it,works fantastic against people who can’t fight,but wrestler would beat there ass all day long
I hate that you have to make sure you "apologize" for just being funny now. People need to know how to take jokes. Its what also makes you human. Enough with the "I'm offended" crap.
He's not wrong though It's kinda useless to the average person, this is for sport and competition not self defence Best off learning how to actually fight otherwise someone is probably gonna kick you in the taint and head multiple times, just a warning hahaha
@@corywright957 Hardly. That's also a very daft attitude. The kind of one that'll get you stabbed. But don't take it from me. th-cam.com/video/VJeLJPyir1w/w-d-xo.htmlsi=fqDn4qrTkv87ov8E
@@corywright957 If you go wading into every fight because you think running away means your opponent has won then one day you're gonna pick a fight with the wrong person and you're gonna end up seriously hurt or dead. In a situation where someone wants to punch you they have to get close enough to you to do it. Running solves that dilemma. In a situation where someone grabs you and you have no choice but to fight then BJJ solves that dilemma.
@neonshaker9312 Weapons nullify almost all martial arts, bjj included. I believe we're having a misunderstanding/miscommunication. No real point in continuing, have a good day bud.
@@everythingcanwork5215 honestly at this point /bjj/catch/judo its all grappling with some differences but i see the point with bjj practitioners doing that butt scooting shit. It needs to stop
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Pulling guard like that deserves to be made fun of
@winterson6938 he means pulling that guard in general, like in fights
Nah cuz it do lol
Cope@@winterson6938
@@winterson6938you mad cuz bjj is full of weirdos
@@williammcarthur1966I mean there are smart ways to pull guard. Look at Charles Oliveira, but butt scooting is stupid
He’s hilarious
Eh
@@cry_now_laugh_laterwhat eh goofy kid boy shut up get life kid
He's describing kron Gracie
DAAAYYOOMNN SHOTS FIRED 😂😂
You should fight Kron, then. I've trained in combat sports my whole life, and I've trained with Kron. He'd Fuq you up.
@MrDayday4641 He's a warrior he trains under my 🐕 dog. My dog is the one who taught him how-to butt scoot so well.
@@MrDayday4641
lol did you get outstruck by kron
@@MrDayday4641 and he still got beat up by some Canadian til he resorted to scooting on his butt
Rampage respect BJJ he even fought in a tournaument but i think he is trying to say it doesn't work if you are using it without other martial arts
It doesn’t work in high level mma
@@chapman2001 What the fuck are you talking about? Are you saying Oliveira isn't high level? Are you saying Islam isn't high level? Are you saying every single submission ever in the ufc were just flukes? lmao.
@@chapman2001 everyone is obligated to train JJ today that is How important It is
@@chapman2001 this is like saying wrestling or Kickboxing alone don't work
@@chapman2001 CASUAL
Funny but actually true, when a BJJ guy tries to pull you in just stand up and channel your inner Sakuraba
See the ironic part is, only people equally trained or highly skilled in other disciplines can mock it. "Just stand up" will get you choked unconscious or your joint deleted in about 3.7 seconds unless you have trained a highly specific set of skills and defenses and counters.
@@thisisgettingold Brazilian jiu-jitsu fans have enculturated ridiculous tactics in "guard play"... standing up and passing from your feet is frowned upon in the gym where they want you to stay on your knees and stick your head in your opponants crotch.
Just stand up and channel your inner Sakuraba, "guard play" in sport BJJ is just plain stupid and based on safety for the business not developing fight skills
@@BURGAWMMA sounds like u had a shitty gym or something lol
@@thisisgettingold just stand up Derek Lewis
@@thisisgettingold yeah, it was so technical when Rampage used to just stand up and power bomb dudes
The dog itchy as$ scootch maneuver 😅
This kind of shit like pulling guard or sitting is cause why people make fun of it. Old school jiu jitsu was more effective.
I remember when he coached on TUF and he was like "CB you better stand tbe fck UP like you in jail and they tryna take yo manhood, like they tryna take yo BOOTY dont be playing no guard" and CB stood his ass up immediately 😂😂
lool bruh got up with the swiftness aint no booty stealing lmfao
It’s so true😂
Bruh imagine if rampage was in his prime during this social media age. Would be 10 times the star he already is either that or cancelled 😂😂😂
In the elevator 😂
Mike Musumechi:
Thats wild 🤣🤣🤣
How long ago was this? He used to be fit.
I thought you were gonna breakdance ❤ it
What brand are those pants?
Men act like women in 2024
This is true😂
That’s hilarious & perfectly stated ! LOL
It reminds me of kids wrestling.
Cte for sure
He didnt pull that joke when he fought Jones lolol
🤣
He's right though...
This is his funniest joke 🤣
Is it bad that I know that's Joe's laughing ass in the background?
you right i cant throw a punch then its an easy fight lets do it ;)
Shogun Rua is typing...
he is a muay thai kind of fighter too
He was a beast at muay thai and he wasnt no butt scooter lol
It also doesnt work if you just stay home alone on the couch and never leave the house.
Bro who hurt you lol
Ask Derrick Lewis
It just doesn't work alone, that why BJJ is side martial arts in history😅
You know how many fights I've stopped doing that tho? People see me sit down like that and they usually walk off.
And let’s be real you sit down like that against any guy with basic MT you getting your head kicked off. Absolutely moronic to assume your opponent has no fighting ability
Because they think you are a crazy, mentally ill person who shouldn't be hit
@@Global-Grit "Absolutely moronic to assume your opponent has no fighting ability" - lol
@@sloppyyeggs We can all safely assume you’ll stay anon, no pic no vids. Am I right?😂
You don't need martial arts training to do a running start soccer kick to the head in a street fight. BJJ is 100% not for real world.
In BJJ strict rules it's alright, but man in a fight or MMA you have to go through a flow chart. Striking, Clench, Make Space, or, Striking, Clench, Takedown, BJJ, Striking, BJJ Striking. You have to be good at all that shit, not just one part.
This most likely due to the fact that Rampage had to sit through the entire Sakuraba vs Royce Gracie marathon fight
Ive seen longer bare knuckle boxing matches between gypsies
This is EXACTLY how I feel about BJJ.
BJJ only works with the element of surprise.
If you go into every fight with the assumption that your opponent is a BJJ master, and all he wants to do is sniff your crotch, then you have reduced the efficacy of BJJ by a significant percentage.
LOL
What happens when you can't stand up? Life isn't the same for everyone we are all not juiced up ex mma fighters. Some if us have to deal with stronger, bigger people on top of us.
I feel like you get your balls busted a lot
There has to be a distinction made between BJJ and GJJ. What Rampage said about BJJ is correct
Except when he shoots a double leg td and all you got is a half-baked sprawl; your ship's sinking when all your wheelhouses of defense are empty...
Go look at BJJ tournaments that is very rare it’s always people doing but scoots
Charles Oliveira does this every fight 😂
U must be blind then
@@chrisdudedurian1305He indeed must be
Yet Charles wins against Dustin and Justin jujitsu does work the problem is that most mma gym teaches how to defend against jujitsu
@@chrisdudedurian1305Am I blind or does Oliveira literally always pull guard or lay on his back at somepoint in his most recent fights? I mean, he beat Gaejthe and Poirer with it, but didn't Islam punish him hard for it? Like choked him tf out or something?
@@garygrapes2329 he doesn't pull guard or lay on his back. That happens cos he gets caught and knocked down that's why he's on the ground but he does that to kinda taunt them and rest a little bit because his grappling is so elite that most guys would rather just wait til the ref stands him up again instead of fighting him on the ground and he gets rest time by doing this. It's a rly smart strat and he's a deadly fighter
Not Oliveira thinking he had this as a trump card against islam 😭 lol my boy got chocked tf out
He didn't though? He got rocked and his guard was his last line of defense and Islam easily passed it.
yeah thanks to EPO made from Dubai
@JongjongNarcos bro EPO improves your cardio, also he got flagged for meldonium, a drug similar to EPO, which he claims was from vitamins
He fought an entire religion? That's pretty full on.
@TheReal4th yea thats.. what the comment was referring to...
didn't bones jones submit him?
Not by laying on his back or buttscooting. Jones literally just guillotines and takes peoples heads home for his fireplace
i barely understood any of the words he said
Toddler style
Inside every J/K there's a little truth.
There is logic to it.
for sure. Obviously bjj can be effective, but especially sport bjj has just got silly. it's funny seeing the combat bjj with so many examples of guys on their back trying to lock up someones leg, and the guy on top just postures up and open palm slaps them into unconsciousness lol. If you want something to search for an example lol
''BJJ doesn't work if you just stand up''
same to all grappling, it doesn't work if you just stop hug''
What do BJJ blackbelts do when it's 2 or more on 1? Can they run on their a$$es? I have been jumped more than once and trying BJJ - even if I had been trained - would have gotten me killed. Standing up and looking for objects to use,whether stationary (like a wall,parked car,or a tree) or objects which I can mobilize (like a rock),saved my life more than once.
@@sloppyyeggs Oh,you had a choice to run? I stand my ground,but sheet,I'm a Witch,so forget trying to explain it to someone who hasn't had to deal w this kind of stuff multiple times. Eventually you just get f'n pissed and stand your ground when you know you can,period. Can't run forever and sometimes - many times for me,I could not run at all. I know I ain't the only one.
But he got beat by Jon Jones with a rear naked choke
Who beat him with kickboxing and wrestling,also bjj is a fake copy of Japanese jiu jitsu,absolutely useless martial art without help other martial arts
@@jamesmiles1328just out of curiosity… how do you explain the first 3 UFC’s ??. If bjj is useless….
@@jasonelliott3981 you do realise the first ufc was fixed by the Gracie’s don’t you lol,whole thing was a set up for them to win,they picked the fights,also all the fighters thought it was just a fake wrestling thing,they was flown in about 5 days before the tournament no training,Royce conveniently getting the boxer who he took down and quit lol,no damage taken easy fight for next round,why wasn’t Gracie’s in following ufc when everyone knew about it all and wrestlers started coming in ???,we saw what happened to Royce when he fought Matt Hughes who beat the shit out off him and embarrassed him,
@@jamesmiles1328Im not saying that bjj is the end all be all… yes fighters need to know striking wrestling & bjj. But it definitely works unless Gracie’s continue to “pay off” every fighter that loses to a bjj submission.. i wonder how much they had to pay nogueira when frank mir ripped his shoulder to pieces from a kimura.. he just couldve stood up right? Or how about when brock lesnar.. an extremely talented wrestler stepped over mir & got caught in a toe hold & had to tap… yes when then fought the second time.. lesnar beat fuck out of him with his wrestling & strikes… all im saying is there are many fighters that win fights using bjj & i think that knowing a mixture of standup & grappling works best..im sure some people will never agree on this subject.. those that hate bjj.. & someone like me who likes it.
@@jasonelliott3981 your naming all the bjj wins lol,how many losses have they had to ???,dont see any Gracie’s about anymore,like you said won first few because was all fixed and set up for them,Matt Hughes beat down showed that one dimensional fighters are no good,mark coleman would of destroyed him,now im trained in 6 different martial arts had fights in boxing Muay Thai karate judo,also trained in bjj,I know good martial art,but its boring when get deluded people saying bjj the best,as its takedowns suck also don’t get punched kicked or elbowed in it,works fantastic against people who can’t fight,but wrestler would beat there ass all day long
BJJ not as good if you can do soccer kicks, stomps and knees to grounded opponents.
They had all of that in the early days and it worked great
@@letmegetuhhh3959Scooting on the ground like a rainbow warrior is not an effective takedown strat.
It's a sport martial art,,, not effective in real world situations
FYT for deleting my comment...everyone knows it's TRUE. Lol. Don't butt scoot, it's not applicable to real world scenarios.
Tell me you can't grapple without saying it. 😂🤣😂
But 'just stand up' is not something external to BJJ. He might as well say 'arm bars don't work if you just pull your arm out'.
I hate that you have to make sure you "apologize" for just being funny now. People need to know how to take jokes. Its what also makes you human. Enough with the "I'm offended" crap.
He's not wrong though
It's kinda useless to the average person, this is for sport and competition not self defence
Best off learning how to actually fight otherwise someone is probably gonna kick you in the taint and head multiple times, just a warning hahaha
Muay Thai, Boxing and Judo don't work if your opponent runs away.
If your opponent runs away then you already won.
@@corywright957 Hardly. That's also a very daft attitude. The kind of one that'll get you stabbed.
But don't take it from me.
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@@neonshaker9312 how tf would I get stabbed by a guy running away? I would just go about my business. I'm not gonna chase some fool.
@@corywright957 If you go wading into every fight because you think running away means your opponent has won then one day you're gonna pick a fight with the wrong person and you're gonna end up seriously hurt or dead. In a situation where someone wants to punch you they have to get close enough to you to do it. Running solves that dilemma. In a situation where someone grabs you and you have no choice but to fight then BJJ solves that dilemma.
@neonshaker9312 Weapons nullify almost all martial arts, bjj included. I believe we're having a misunderstanding/miscommunication. No real point in continuing, have a good day bud.
It’s funny til you fighting someone on the street 1 on 1 and they do that
still funny . They now have zero striking options , you still have a bunch .
Counter argument foot+ face
Or leg kick
And if that’s to risky remember Your kick is faster than their grab destroy those shins
@@whyareusobad3528 Did this MF just try to argue FOR up kicks in a street fight ! I'm ded ! XD
Lol i can imagine thats how all brazilians fight 😂
You are uncultured. Shogun, Anderson Silva, Wanderlei, Jose Aldo, etc... all straight Brazilian. No guard pulling off the feet.
@@ashenwuss1651 r u buthurt?
@ashenwuss1651 trust I have way more culture than you 😂
@@ashenwuss1651 how many years have you trained? Yeah alright goooof
Same bro that got subbed by a 170lb sakuraba
i think bro trashtalk about bjj practioner pull guard only, sakuraba is shooto, catch wresling?
He was also killing himself to make 170, no excuses but was a factor.
@@everythingcanwork5215 honestly at this point /bjj/catch/judo its all grappling with some differences but i see the point with bjj practitioners doing that butt scooting shit. It needs to stop
@@IronClinch92Pride din't have much weight class,are you sure Rampage need to be 170?
Weight class was 90kg (198lbs) in those days. Sakuraba used to weigh around 185.
In other news rampage Jackson has lost via submission twice.
When Jon Jones finished him off with a rear choke he wasn't laughing so much...
Because Jones is the superior wrestler.
Yes especially the part where Jones pulled guard at the start of the fight...... Right? You should see that this has nothing to do with the video
Was that before or after jones poked his eyes?
@@lebannen6056 Jones has attempted to pull guard into submissions though. I remember he tried to jump into an armbar at the end of a round before
@@6em974That's j being slick though, if there ever is a time to pull guard, do it with under 30 seconds left and commit hard asf
Jon Jones showed him BJJ and made him tap for his life lol
My friend jones showed him wrestling cause he didn’t pull guard
@@Jason-ps2sc So according to you it's only BJJ if you pull guard???
@@Jason-ps2scjiu jitsu isn’t just pulling guard and working off your back lmao
@@6em974Jon Jones beat him with wrestling
Cant say the same about judo hehe
A crap-ton of Jiu-Jitsu fighters have won UFC titles. Can't say the same about Judo (and I love Judo, I train in Judo, but GTFOH!).
Hehe
@@MrDayday4641 'cause judo guys go to the Olympics instead, "no gi" jiu jitsu is wrestling
@@MrDayday4641 Because judo is an Olympic sport. The best judoka want medals and aren’t allowed to compete elsewhere.
@@MrDayday4641 Dricus is a judoka all them bjj players really giving him a hard time lol. And he’s not even a blackbelt
Rampage is just a garbage human being
Your sense of humor is garbage
Just a shame you wouldn't say it to his face.
@@Obiodum_ what’s tiddies rampage gonna do low testosterone me to death
“Garbage human being”🤓
I think he is a good Man