Yeah I always have to think of that interview when a social worker gave a candid interview (unrelated to this case) and talked about how lucrative this whole market is, that it unfortunately attracted also the wrong people and that one case worker had to supervise a ton of cases. Most foster parents do it first and foremost for the money, fair enough, but authorities should probably rethink if it's wise to treat foster parenting as a full-time salaried position.
Sadly that's true for too many today! Especially single mothers who need extra income to either raise their own kids or buy that house without a spouse!
I do not live in the US but know what is going on in the world. Putting out an incentive for people who don't want to work to get paid for 'adopting' children is just a business now. Children are not disposable commodities. Money making ventures. I would love to know what Governnment body oversees the children in placement care.
Well that sort of do. They do their best. I think a lot of them let a lot of little red flags go because they’re SO desperate for Foster parents. There simply aren’t enough. I mean by a LOT,just not enough. And then mostly the kinds of families that DO decide to Foster are desperate people who need the steady income. Not the cream of the crop.
“Babies for Benefits!” It needs to stop. The number of children who are abused, tortured, neglected and murdered through the foster care system is outrageous! One CPS failure after another. And once they’re adopted CPS never checks in on them. Too many people hurting their precious children! My heart breaks for them. We must, MUST fix this!
@@JennAyBaybAyy yup!!! That's exactly what its. They failed to take the baby to hospital when he was sick and cover it up. Not unless they poisoned him.
I agree. Between human trafficking and cases like this it is just hard to even fathom. I believe that the atrocities committed against all of these babies is the greatest tragedy of our lifetime. We have to do more and do better to protect the children.
Not just “children” in general but so many crimes against PARENTS and their own child/children! It’s horrific. The place you live along with the ppl in your family should be your safest place. And yet in some families it’s the most dangerous. I feel so bad for these poor children 😭😭😭😭
Children are the most helpless and most innocent victims in this country, and they get the least amount of press attention, and the least amount of federal protection, with one of the least funded agencies, CPS. People don't want to hear about dead abused kids on the news and crimes keep happening.
Jacqueline telling her son not to “talk” to anybody is very similar to what Letecia Stauch told her daughter to do when she got caught in her lies…here’s hoping this momster gets the same outcome 😢😢😢
I remember the biological father was so distraught. He never wanted to lose his children. Very tragic when children are given to the state and then something like this happens.
Lies he was so distraught whatever! Why is it that he wasn't trying anything to get his kids back from the beginning! These people are poor and in the system as well 😢
@@dionnesimpson9550 can I ask why was the kids taken from the mom and dad because I see on Facebook that the mom post about food and herself and the two boys now
@@Missvlog89 I don’t know. There’s all kinds of reasons. Sometimes CPS likes to try to convince them that they won’t have them and that it’s a good family and that it’s best for the kids. Sad all around.
@@Missvlog89 The biological mother rushed one of the boys to the hospital because he broke his leg, a case worker happened to be there and suspected that the mother abused him , turns out that the boy actually fell and broke his leg but the mom had to take parenting classes & the case worker had the boys removed & placed into foster care, the mom completes her classes but the foster parents had already started the adoption process with the help of the case worker, the biological mother , went through so many avenues to get them back but her requests were ignored & denied and they were adopted nout to the west's anyway. Smdh.
“Kids for cash” or as we say in the UK “babies for benefits”….unwanted children just produced as a means to an end…they get given housing and benefits here just for having a child…it needs to stop, there are too many unwanted and unloved children
Jacqueline’s face sickens me. She is trying to have the demeanour of a lady and of control but she is a monster and should never have carried life in her womb, let alone been a foster mum. They did it for money, they also did their biological children a disservice. They unwittingly or selfishly have damaged and abused their biological children as well due to greed. Justice must prevail and God must bring His wrath upon them.
These two thought they were smart but they’re as dumb&ignorantas they look they killed those babies for money. I feel sick looking at them especially her ,knowing what the boys went through being taken from their bio Mom that way . Where are the other two kids missing from your care Jaqueline & Trezell ? Let them ( Classic & Cincere ) be laid to rest you two evil cowards !
Yes especially since the older son testified she would choke them to the point of stopping them to cry I do not know they give people who truly want to adopt and they say it's their goal to reunite them to the real parent that case with Oakley who cried to leave a loving home and was murdered and the Harmony case giving the drug addict father custody and never been found I pray everyday for God to watch over these little ones cuz they have no one to help them
After Gannon Stauch, Tylee Ryan & JJ Vallow, Tristan Bailey et al - my heart may break watching another trial of innocent juveniles/children being murdered. ❤😔 This poor biological mom. I cannot inagine her grief.
@@jeanP924 , murder is murder it hurts the same . It’s innocent lives and the hurt and the suffering to their families and friends and even the community doesn’t lessen bc of age or who committed the atrocities . It still hurts and makes us all more vulnerable as a society . 🫶🏼✌🏽
People who can hurt a child should be subject to the worst torture and pain imaginable. I realize that this is not how the justice system works but we just get more and more child murderers lately and there is no slowing down. These animals should be put down. My father is serving life sentences in Florida State Penitentiary for committing evil and horrific crimes against children. My happiest day will be the day VINE let's me know he is gone from this world.
Agree. It blow my mind to see all these cases against CHILDREN. They did not asked to be here. They believe and trust in adults to love and protect them. The only way to stop this is to impose the DEATH SENTENCE against these animals. The system should protect children at all cost not these animals... I really don't for the life of me understand how you can kill and hurt children.
Sending love to you. I pray your relief. Some cases deserve the Death penalties and this along with Leticia Stauch & Lori and Chad Daybell Cases sure do. 🕯🕊🕯🕊
I love vinelink.com another great one is docketbird.com - though it’s more of a site for lawyers as you need sign in info. Best bet on keeping tabs on and inmate and/or checking on a loved one is definitely VineLink.com Everyone use it as needed. you can get notified on any movement and/or releases. Pick the correct state, use said name or inmate number, and there you have it. There’s options as OP and I stated where you can get notifications on their whereabouts up until their release which you’ll also be notified about. Best of luck everyone. ❗️Warning: use responsibly, I could get lost, searching on there for hours 😅❕
I'm getting so sick of these parents killing there children those children were used as income for those two scumbags and trezell and jacklyn just sitting up there like they did nothing wrong I hope they both get exactly what they deserve because those children didn't deserve what happened to them
That’s what I don’t understand. Who said they ran away? I thought they were taken. There is footage of a car driving away from their house right before the father reported them missing.
@@lususloveThat wasn’t from their house it was a neighbors car and they had been missing for a while before he called 911. No footprints of kids found in the dirt. No car pulls up to their home at all and no person is ever seen walking up to their gate.
@@lususlove only footage of a car I’ve seen was their car. He got into it and drove away to pretend he was looking for the kids. He drove around the block, came back, then they called the cops and waited in the front yard.
How can anyone do this to a child? The innocent children that lost their lives to the ones they trusted. Bella, Cece, Gannon, JJ, Tylee to name a few. Orrin, orson and summer who haven’t been found. My heart breaks for them
The worst thing is these babies had a loving family that they should have been living with. The work had been done by the mother for those babies to go back home, there were Grandparents who wanted those babies and they would be alive today if not placed with the Wests.
My parents live in California city. That place is flat and barren. Not like hills or mountains or trees that they could get lost in. When my parents told me about this I got a feeling immediately that they were dead. So sad
These two deserve to be under the jail. They used these kids as income. While being cruel and evil to them. God sees it all. He serves the enteral. punishment.
I had to stop myself from full out sobbing at those photos of the boys last seen. All I see is my little brown son and how I’d give my life before I ever let anyone hurt their precious soul.
All the children we've been hearing about break my heart. But Cincere and Classic make me sob out loud. Those sweet round faces and big brown eyes were so sweet.
I worked with children for a good part of my working life, and I would have jumped in front of a train for any of them. It's safe to say I don't understand people like this.
Justice for Sincere & Classic. And justice for their biological mother. I hope her families case tears child services apart. And I really hope the 2 Mexican these couple lost get justice. Something is going on with CPS and this couple. Are they selling children. Or just abusing them. Sincere & Classic should never have been taken from their biological family.
Following from Australia, so glad they finally have these heartless scumbags! Classic and Cincere were darling little boys that deserved to laugh and be loved with a full life of fun ahead. I hope karma pays back thrice on the Wests
I doubt it... It's Crappyfornia where PEDOPHILES are able to prey on you're children without any consequences... Man get life woman WILL scream insanity I Say 5 year's... Change my mind,,,
@@ENIGMA-tangerino555 we really hope but there bodies are still missing. Hopefully there's some kind of evidence BUT I think everyone including jury knows they did it
I’ve been searching periodically to try and find out what was happening in this case. Those poor little boys. I couldn’t stop thinking about them over that Christmas when they went missing. The parents were soooo shifty in that interview, it made me so angry to think they likely knew exactly where those two little one were. May they rest in peace 🙏
@@Discardedvoices I’m white. I hate all the racist bullshit that’s been happening and I don’t want to make this about race, but are any of the black content creators covering this story in any depth? Like @Ebony Phillips above, I search now and then to see what’s happening with them. I did a search this morning to see if there were any more than snippets of soundbites here and there. Didn’t see much. Maybe I wasn’t using the right search terms🤷🏼♀️. Anyway, I hope they FRY for hurting those beautiful babies!
@@Samantha___419 I was only talking about the coverage, nothing else. Also, I discovered why it wasn’t being covered by anybody. It was the judge and his rules. Glad they’re closing now. I’d like to see three for three (LIEtecia, Lori (and seven last names, that one), and now these two monsters!
In the adoption process, how can someone be allowed to adopt a child when their only source of income is the proceeds from the state for adopting the child. Obviously there’s a financial incentive that’s not there without the adoption! it’s just mind-boggling.
These people were evil, especially the person that was supposed to be a mom to be a mom to these babies. They were literally still babies when they were taken from the only place they ever known was home. The only comfort they had was each other. This evil b*tch took that away, she kept separated. Then she would hold them down till they stopped crying. The older child testified that the mom and dad got mad because they cried all the time. They probably would've cried so much if she would've just let them comfort each other. But, she probably knew that and wasn't going to let that happen.
There's a lot of reasonable doubt on this one. I don't think the state ha what happened right and theyve not got a lot of evidence. One child said that another claimed to see one of the boys die, others have said the boys did move house with them it's very confusing. A lot of what they said in the first interviews they don't remember saying now as it's been so long.
I don’t understand why people intentionally inflict harm,pain,and punishment upon defenseless children. Children period! How do these people exist day after day continuing this behavior 😡Rest well little babies 😢🙏🏾💔
@@mrsb2074 and yet some woman would do anything to have a child and this beast mistreats & murd£red these two innocent boys. It’s simply heartbreaking. Maes me sick that it’s happening more and more every day. So sad 💔
@@TruCrimeQueen yep some great people that can't even conceive but monsters like this take advantage makes me so 😡. Give me 5 minutes with them I hate people that hurt Children and animals
I didn't even know their trial had started. The Letecia and Lori trials have dominated the media and all the true crime channels. I just hope one of them will finally have the heart to tell where the boy's bodies are. I doubt they will but I can still hope.
Yes, the trial is on day 19 I believe, but no replay or video was permitted up until this point. Prosecution actually just rested. People were only able to listen live on the court audio feed, but apparently the judge allowed it to now be broadcast so everything you see now already happened 2 weeks ago. Defense just began their case in chief this week.
If only they'd have tried them separately. I bet they'd be lining up to roll over on the other one. They have them in there together like a team though. 🙄 So it's gonna them together against everyone else and neither of them will talk.
@@MissaPalityThe only thing that is recorded for tv is the opening and closing statements. None of the testimony can be heard unless you listened to the audio of it each day.
All trials need to be live. Not only appropriate prison sentences for peoples crimes, but they must get humiliated and embarrassed, called out to the entire world, as the people they have shown themselves to be.
It shows how desperate the state is for foster parents when they allow these two monsters within an inch of innocent children. Its obvious these foster kids were only a meal ticket to this pair. The cruelty they inflicted on Classic and Cincere should be inflicted on them. It was obvious from their first interview that they were lying, even the masks couldnt hide their evil deeds. Justice for Classic and Cincere.
I think one of the biggest problems is the state and county paying private agencies to manage foster cases. The private agencies are paid to oversee these children’s home lives and often do a horrible job at judging the character of the adults who apply to provide care. We really need to put more money into this system and require extensive psychological testing. We need to disqualify adults who aren’t making enough money to provide their current family a comfortable life. There are so many more things we can do to help ensure a safer environment for these poor children.
Very strange that Jacqueline never left the house. As a mother, you would think she would have run out into the yard to look around and out in front of house. They had other children at home, so I understand someone had to stay back with the kids, but as a Mom the first thing you're going to do is run out into the front yard/street calling for your children. From what I've seen and heard re this case, I don't believe the boys were ever in Ca City.
The other children wasn't there. If they were there I would have them stay put in the house while I'm walking up and down the streets looking for my babies. That would be a natural thing to do.
you don't do that if the kids were never there. they came up with this stupid story after both the boys were already dead. they were just trying to cover their tracks, thank God they are as stupid as they are.
It was reported at the time the other children were with grandparents so the couple could prepare Christmas presents but this couple couldn't explain why the 2 boys were not staying with the grandparents too. Then the couples poor excuse for these poor boys being in the garden in the late afternoon waa because they wanted to play with chalk despite it being too cold at the time of their alleged disappearance.
@@renettegordley3493 I wouldn’t leave any children at home alone if a different child of mine was missing. I’d want to be out searching but it wouldn’t be natural for me to leave small children at home alone. I would likely call over a trusted neighbor or family member to come stay with them.
Wait, why the hell is the state paying people to adopt kids. I can understand providing funds and resources for foster parents, because the goal usually is a safe and secure placement (as much as possible in that situation) for children until they can be reunited with their parents or other family members. But for someone to adopt them, they should be doing it with the intention of wanting to raise that child as their oen for the rest of their lives.......which includes wanting to provide them the things they need that costs money. Sounds like they are insentivizing the permanent displacenent of a child from their parents. So my question is, how much does the social workers and others involved get for each adoption? Where does the money come from? Obviously the tax payer but who is the middle man? This is very strange and wrony to me.
As much as I want these two goofies to be held accountable, that opening statement wasn't very reassuring. It really makes one wonder what on earth Cal City police were doing all those weeks they sat around warning people about bothering the foster parents, and holding completely useless press conferences.
Those poor sweet innocent boys!! Any violent crime committed against children, especially MURDER should immediately be a maximum penalty. But we don't care about children in this country . If we did, then CPS would be the most well funded government agency with the most experienced investigators and every resource-- and yet it's the worst.
The trial is actually almost done. The prosecution has rested and defense just began their case in chief this week. Up until now, the only coverage was live audio feed from the court. Replay was not permitted. Apparently, the judge changed his mind
Well hopefully he does well enough to convince the jury, because those 2 boys need justice too, and those 2 adoptive "parents" are guilty as sin in my opinion.
$4k a month simply for adopting? That sounds troubling. Think of the amount of people who will do it just for a check? I knew someone who adopted kids for a check. She eventually grew to love them and treated them good, but her main motive in the beginning was a check.
This trial will prove why every child services agency in the United States needs investigated at a federal level. Too many children become victims of murder because of legalized child trafficking.
These poor kids were abused from birth and taken away from the bio mom because of it, only to goto another abusive and disgusting home. Just fucking sad
Everyone involved in this adoption should be tried and put in prison. The judge that signed the final decree, the caseworkers that placed those boys, every single person that didn't stand up and ask, "What the hell are you doing" should also go to prison. Who adds two children to a family that already has four kids, and no income? Eight people in a small apartment? Even my 5-year-old grandson can do simple math... Everyone involved in this adoption is culpable for their murders.
These poor little kids who witnessed this trauma and were aware their younger adopted baby brothers are missing. They remember! Bless those kids hearts. They are probably terrified by the parents. They were probably scared to death because their brothers were crying too much and ended up gone. God help these babies ! May justice be done !
If these two get off for some reason I hope everyone is ready to give them street justice at least. I hope they never ever have one single minute of peace. No one else on this earth can convince me they didn’t kill these babies
Such a long time to get rid of those babies and these creeps will never admit to what they did and where the children have been dumped. I really hope that the prosecution presents a strong case that can get some justice for these sweet siblings.
I will never understand how and or why people hurt children this is such a sad situation 😥🙏 i pray they get their deserved justice may they're rest be in heavenly peace 🕊️
I’m praying for this madness to end . Omg save our children . It’s becoming so common for innocent children to suffer deaths at hands of those that is supposed to be caring for them 😢
Poor unloved neglected little kids who cried a lot.......that is so sad. I've had 4 kids and they didn't cry a lot at that age. They were too busy having fun and getting into mischief.
Ugh. I am so tired of bad audio during trials!! Trying to get through the interviews with Letecia Stauch last week, and now these interviews- it is incredibly frustrating! I’ve got my AirPods in and volume all the way up and still can barely make out what is being said.
@@sandilobianco6734 oh, I know it lol!! The CC can’t decipher the audio either. Some of the things that come across the screen with the closed captions are pretty funny for sure
I believe unfortunately that they will be acquitted for second-degree murder due to lack of evidence and insufficient Police work however, I do believe that they will get convicted on some of these child abuse charges just hoping they don’t get out for time served because these two people are monsters, and his son, who testified against them is going to be terrified for the rest of his life of these two people are walking the street.
Don’t think they will be aquitted one the lie that kids were at grandmas .. and they were never ! Kinda like the Daybell case except they did find the bodies . With all the lies .. yea they will be convicted ! Have faith ! Justice will be served !
Reminder there are surviving children who’ve been traumatized. Wondering who will ensure they’re well cared for and receive the support they deserve and need.
23:12 “she didn’t see or hear the kids in the car, she didn’t necessarily LOOK for them” what kind of sick fuck do you have to be to cover up for these people. i’ve never gotten into a car, much alone with CHILDREN in it and not noticed and acknowledged everyone in the car. sounds like perjury to me
True common sense screams these kids did not “wonder off” in these patches Jacklyn Also you both say someone “took them” seriously? There’s absolutely no way ☠️ Plus NO AMBER ALERT? Come on now 😳
Amber alerts are not up to the parents. Also, there was no information to suspect an abduction. Pretty sure the police were suspicious of parents very early on. ❤️🍀
It’s so sad and unimaginable when biological parents abuse or kill thief own children,.. but it’s even sadder and more unimaginable when parents/people who adopt orphans take them in for the money only, then abuse or kill them. How/Why are some children so unfortunate in life? None of us asks to be born into this already sufferable world. Poor little innocent babies and children.💔
i hope these boys get justice.. i remember this case and not hearing much. then seeing the parents were finally accused and caught. i could tell from the beginning..
These deaths could have been prevented and CPS should also be responsible, It turns my stomach every time when I hear how they’ve let these children down, start checking these people out better,that was their income solely,Red Flag.
We all need to really stop placing all of the blame on CPS and start blaming all of the biological parents that are recklessly having children knowing they are not mentally or financially stable to raise them. The biological parents are to blame here. They failed those two precious boys.
4K is not a lot of money guys for 4 kids u don’t even like !!!! Or want these r broke ppl and he was a wannabe rapper what apartment allows 8 ppl ? To stay there that’s here in Arizona is 3 bedroom max for apartment and that’s rare to find
It's a whole lot of money if that is the only income that you have. Plus I'm guessing that they had actually subsidized housing. Regardless that is a whole lot of money when that is the only source of your income
And here we go again I am so sick of people hurting children if I was nit a convicted felon I would become a prosecuter or something I would put them all away to the best of my ability in a place where there I no protection just like they did not protect these innocent children. My 21 year old daughter passed last year and I am beyond devastated 😢. F*** these badlands that harm kids
The system has been riding this case to dam long it's time to convict them already taxes payers money going to waste I don't see how couyyou kill these two babies and not feel nothing about what you did
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CPS should stop allowing people to profit from children. They had no income!
That’s the incentive to get people to foster! Babysitters get paid to watch kids, parents don’t!
@@kirstynrenee8801 💔
Yeah I always have to think of that interview when a social worker gave a candid interview (unrelated to this case) and talked about how lucrative this whole market is, that it unfortunately attracted also the wrong people and that one case worker had to supervise a ton of cases. Most foster parents do it first and foremost for the money, fair enough, but authorities should probably rethink if it's wise to treat foster parenting as a full-time salaried position.
Sadly that's true for too many today! Especially single mothers who need extra income to either raise their own kids or buy that house without a spouse!
I do not live in the US but know what is going on in the world. Putting out an incentive for people who don't want to work to get paid for 'adopting' children is just a business now. Children are not disposable commodities. Money making ventures. I would love to know what Governnment body oversees the children in placement care.
CPS should start being held accountable for continually placing children without investigating foster parents. Enough already!
What's this prosecutors name? Do you know?? 🤔
@@FLo-jc7ig sorry. I don't know.
Another alphabet agency that need to be investigated and reformed…maybe start with the people they hire!
Well that sort of do. They do their best. I think a lot of them let a lot of little red flags go because they’re SO desperate for Foster parents. There simply aren’t enough. I mean by a LOT,just not enough. And then mostly the kinds of families that DO decide to Foster are desperate people who need the steady income. Not the cream of the crop.
@@alison2649 yeah, it called babies for benefits!
“Babies for Benefits!” It needs to stop. The number of children who are abused, tortured, neglected and murdered through the foster care system is outrageous! One CPS failure after another. And once they’re adopted CPS never checks in on them. Too many people hurting their precious children! My heart breaks for them. We must, MUST fix this!
AFC Podcast tells us all the time!!
@@Trust_No_One_0316 came here to say this!!! Love J!!
@@JennAyBaybAyy yup!!! That's exactly what its. They failed to take the baby to hospital when he was sick and cover it up. Not unless they poisoned him.
And the countless numbers of abused children in this country under school age or being homeschooled and are under the radar.
@@Trust_No_One_0316 love the AFC podcast!
The only youtuber I donate to every month!❤❤❤❤
I do not live in the USA but I have prayed for these boys from the moment they were reported missing. Justice for the boys.
So many crimes against children these days 😢
There have always been so many crimes against children. We can just see it on TH-cam now.
I agree. Between human trafficking and cases like this it is just hard to even fathom. I believe that the atrocities committed against all of these babies is the greatest tragedy of our lifetime. We have to do more and do better to protect the children.
Summer Wells is still „missing“ 😟
Not just “children” in general but so many crimes against PARENTS and their own child/children! It’s horrific. The place you live along with the ppl in your family should be your safest place. And yet in some families it’s the most dangerous. I feel so bad for these poor children 😭😭😭😭
Children are the most helpless and most innocent victims in this country, and they get the least amount of press attention, and the least amount of federal protection, with one of the least funded agencies, CPS. People don't want to hear about dead abused kids on the news and crimes keep happening.
This is so tragic. These poor babies didn’t even get a chance to live. I pray they get justice 🙏🏽
😢😢❤🙏🏿
Are they dead?
@@notduhpopo yes
Praying didn't help them when they were alive.
@@January. do you know them? I pray you find something better to type next time.
Jacqueline telling her son not to “talk” to anybody is very similar to what Letecia Stauch told her daughter to do when she got caught in her lies…here’s hoping this momster gets the same outcome 😢😢😢
I remember the biological father was so distraught. He never wanted to lose his children. Very tragic when children are given to the state and then something like this happens.
Lies he was so distraught whatever! Why is it that he wasn't trying anything to get his kids back from the beginning! These people are poor and in the system as well 😢
@@dionnesimpson9550 Girl u are 😷
@@dionnesimpson9550 can I ask why was the kids taken from the mom and dad because I see on Facebook that the mom post about food and herself and the two boys now
@@Missvlog89 I don’t know. There’s all kinds of reasons. Sometimes CPS likes to try to convince them that they won’t have them and that it’s a good family and that it’s best for the kids. Sad all around.
@@Missvlog89 The biological mother rushed one of the boys to the hospital because he broke his leg, a case worker happened to be there and suspected that the mother abused him , turns out that the boy actually fell and broke his leg but the mom had to take parenting classes & the case worker had the boys removed & placed into foster care, the mom completes her classes but the foster parents had already started the adoption process with the help of the case worker, the biological mother , went through so many avenues to get them back but her requests were ignored & denied and they were adopted nout to the west's anyway. Smdh.
Baby Farmers who abused and murdered their children. I hope they don’t get away with this. RIP sweet Boys
“Kids for cash” or as we say in the UK “babies for benefits”….unwanted children just produced as a means to an end…they get given housing and benefits here just for having a child…it needs to stop, there are too many unwanted and unloved children
Jacqueline’s face sickens me. She is trying to have the demeanour of a lady and of control but she is a monster and should never have carried life in her womb, let alone been a foster mum. They did it for money, they also did their biological children a disservice. They unwittingly or selfishly have damaged and abused their biological children as well due to greed. Justice must prevail and God must bring His wrath upon them.
These two thought they were smart but they’re as dumb&ignorantas they look they killed those babies for money. I feel sick looking at them especially her ,knowing what the boys went through being taken from their bio Mom that way . Where are the other two kids missing from your care Jaqueline & Trezell ? Let them ( Classic & Cincere ) be laid to rest you two evil cowards !
@zenith7408 Did you hear about two other kids the Wests had that are missing ? These two are devils !
Yep and then actually good people can't even conceive 1 child! These monsters get all these blessings but they are evil
Yes especially since the older son testified she would choke them to the point of stopping them to cry I do not know they give people who truly want to adopt and they say it's their goal to reunite them to the real parent that case with Oakley who cried to leave a loving home and was murdered and the Harmony case giving the drug addict father custody and never been found I pray everyday for God to watch over these little ones cuz they have no one to help them
After Gannon Stauch, Tylee Ryan & JJ Vallow, Tristan Bailey et al - my heart may break watching another trial of innocent juveniles/children being murdered. ❤😔
This poor biological mom. I cannot inagine her grief.
The difference is Tristyn was murdered by a classmate not a parent, but it's horrific as well.
@@jeanP924 , murder is murder it hurts the same . It’s innocent lives and the hurt and the suffering to their families and friends and even the community doesn’t lessen bc of age or who committed the atrocities . It still hurts and makes us all more vulnerable as a society . 🫶🏼✌🏽
@@Ther3rg Oh and there was no trial for Trystin Bailey, Aiden Fucci pleaded guilty of murder on the day the trial was to take place.
? Doesn't matter by whom
What is your point?
People who can hurt a child should be subject to the worst torture and pain imaginable. I realize that this is not how the justice system works but we just get more and more child murderers lately and there is no slowing down. These animals should be put down. My father is serving life sentences in Florida State Penitentiary for committing evil and horrific crimes against children. My happiest day will be the day VINE let's me know he is gone from this world.
Sending lots of love and prayers to you❤️
Agree. It blow my mind to see all these cases against CHILDREN. They did not asked to be here. They believe and trust in adults to love and protect them. The only way to stop this is to impose the DEATH SENTENCE against these animals. The system should protect children at all cost not these animals... I really don't for the life of me understand how you can kill and hurt children.
Sending love to you.
I pray your relief.
Some cases deserve the
Death penalties and this
along with Leticia Stauch
& Lori and Chad Daybell
Cases sure do.
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I Agree Wholheartedly
I love vinelink.com another great one is docketbird.com - though it’s more of a site for lawyers as you need sign in info. Best bet on keeping tabs on and inmate and/or checking on a loved one is definitely VineLink.com
Everyone use it as needed. you can get notified on any movement and/or releases. Pick the correct state, use said name or inmate number, and there you have it. There’s options as OP and I stated where you can get notifications on their whereabouts up until their release which you’ll also be notified about. Best of luck everyone.
❗️Warning: use responsibly, I could get lost, searching on there for hours 😅❕
CPS needs to be held accountable
I'm getting so sick of these parents killing there children those children were used as income for those two scumbags and trezell and jacklyn just sitting up there like they did nothing wrong I hope they both get exactly what they deserve because those children didn't deserve what happened to them
Okay a 3 and 4 year old took off at 5???? SMH 🤦🏽♀️ These people are pure evil!
Yep just ran away in this huge yard where they have never been before. BS
That’s what I don’t understand. Who said they ran away? I thought they were taken. There is footage of a car driving away from their house right before the father reported them missing.
@@lususloveThat wasn’t from their house it was a neighbors car and they had been missing for a while before he called 911. No footprints of kids found in the dirt. No car pulls up to their home at all and no person is ever seen walking up to their gate.
Another couple have come forward, claiming that the last foster parents that had their child were these 2. There has been no trace of the child since.
@@lususlove only footage of a car I’ve seen was their car. He got into it and drove away to pretend he was looking for the kids. He drove around the block, came back, then they called the cops and waited in the front yard.
How can anyone do this to a child? The innocent children that lost their lives to the ones they trusted. Bella, Cece, Gannon, JJ, Tylee to name a few. Orrin, orson and summer who haven’t been found. My heart breaks for them
Bella & Cece, the Watts girls💔
The worst thing is these babies had a loving family that they should have been living with. The work had been done by the mother for those babies to go back home, there were Grandparents who wanted those babies and they would be alive today if not placed with the Wests.
My parents live in California city. That place is flat and barren. Not like hills or mountains or trees that they could get lost in. When my parents told me about this I got a feeling immediately that they were dead. So sad
These two deserve to be under the jail. They used these kids as income. While being cruel and evil to them. God sees it all. He serves the enteral. punishment.
I'm surprised they haven't had kangaroo court in jail because inmates despise baby killers
I had to stop myself from full out sobbing at those photos of the boys last seen. All I see is my little brown son and how I’d give my life before I ever let anyone hurt their precious soul.
All the children we've been hearing about break my heart. But Cincere and Classic make me sob out loud. Those sweet round faces and big brown eyes were so sweet.
I worked with children for a good part of my working life, and I would have jumped in front of a train for any of them. It's safe to say I don't understand people like this.
Thank god this is being broadcasted for the American people to see. Justice for Orrin and Orson West.
There’s cases world wide that people see. And this happened in America. Lancaster California. I know exactly where that is.. it’s a ghetto
Justice for Sincere & Classic. And justice for their biological mother. I hope her families case tears child services apart. And I really hope the 2 Mexican these couple lost get justice. Something is going on with CPS and this couple. Are they selling children. Or just abusing them. Sincere & Classic should never have been taken from their biological family.
@@FourHuskyHomestead thank you for using their given names.
changing their names seems mean & confusing for these little guys, imo. 8:07
Following from Australia, so glad they finally have these heartless scumbags! Classic and Cincere were darling little boys that deserved to laugh and be loved with a full life of fun ahead. I hope karma pays back thrice on the Wests
Where is it being aired? I can’t find anything
Justice for these two boys. Cincere and Classic. 🙏🙏🙏🙏 Praying for the boys and the birth family.
I pray they not dead I hope these dumb asses sold them or something so there’s a chance
I hope they both get Life in prison. NO PAROLE and a little prison justice.
Praying these babies get justice 🙏🏽🙏🏽
I doubt it... It's Crappyfornia where PEDOPHILES are able to prey on you're children without any consequences... Man get life woman WILL scream insanity I Say 5 year's... Change my mind,,,
they will
@@ENIGMA-tangerino555 we really hope but there bodies are still missing. Hopefully there's some kind of evidence BUT I think everyone including jury knows they did it
Amen to that
I’ve been searching periodically to try and find out what was happening in this case. Those poor little boys. I couldn’t stop thinking about them over that Christmas when they went missing.
The parents were soooo shifty in that interview, it made me so angry to think they likely knew exactly where those two little one were.
May they rest in peace 🙏
It’s heartbreaking that this isn’t being covered better
@@Discardedvoices I’m white. I hate all the racist bullshit that’s been happening and I don’t want to make this about race, but are any of the black content creators covering this story in any depth? Like @Ebony Phillips above, I search now and then to see what’s happening with them. I did a search this morning to see if there were any more than snippets of soundbites here and there. Didn’t see much. Maybe I wasn’t using the right search terms🤷🏼♀️. Anyway, I hope they FRY for hurting those beautiful babies!
Nothing to do with race, these people must of hated these kids..money money money.
@@Samantha___419 I was only talking about the coverage, nothing else. Also, I discovered why it wasn’t being covered by anybody. It was the judge and his rules. Glad they’re closing now. I’d like to see three for three (LIEtecia, Lori (and seven last names, that one), and now these two monsters!
Check out "Lawyer Mystery Maven" who has been covering this trial.
In the adoption process, how can someone be allowed to adopt a child when their only source of income is the proceeds from the state for adopting the child. Obviously there’s a financial incentive that’s not there without the adoption! it’s just mind-boggling.
That was my exact thoughts!! Some one in the home must be financially stable. (This can’t be right? )
Yes it’s so so so wrong
These people were evil, especially the person that was supposed to be a mom to be a mom to these babies. They were literally still babies when they were taken from the only place they ever known was home. The only comfort they had was each other. This evil b*tch took that away, she kept separated. Then she would hold them down till they stopped crying. The older child testified that the mom and dad got mad because they cried all the time. They probably would've cried so much if she would've just let them comfort each other. But, she probably knew that and wasn't going to let that happen.
Where is this *testimony*
There's a lot of reasonable doubt on this one. I don't think the state ha what happened right and theyve not got a lot of evidence. One child said that another claimed to see one of the boys die, others have said the boys did move house with them it's very confusing. A lot of what they said in the first interviews they don't remember saying now as it's been so long.
I don’t understand why people intentionally inflict harm,pain,and punishment upon defenseless children. Children period! How do these people exist day after day continuing this behavior 😡Rest well little babies 😢🙏🏾💔
@@mrsb2074 and yet some woman would do anything to have a child and this beast mistreats & murd£red these two innocent boys. It’s simply heartbreaking. Maes me sick that it’s happening more and more every day. So sad 💔
@@TruCrimeQueen yep some great people that can't even conceive but monsters like this take advantage makes me so 😡. Give me 5 minutes with them I hate people that hurt Children and animals
I didn't even know their trial had started. The Letecia and Lori trials have dominated the media and all the true crime channels. I just hope one of them will finally have the heart to tell where the boy's bodies are. I doubt they will but I can still hope.
Yes, the trial is on day 19 I believe, but no replay or video was permitted up until this point. Prosecution actually just rested. People were only able to listen live on the court audio feed, but apparently the judge allowed it to now be broadcast so everything you see now already happened 2 weeks ago. Defense just began their case in chief this week.
@@MissaPality Thank you for the info. I had been looking for information.
If only they'd have tried them separately. I bet they'd be lining up to roll over on the other one. They have them in there together like a team though. 🙄 So it's gonna them together against everyone else and neither of them will talk.
@@MissaPalityThe only thing that is recorded for tv is the opening and closing statements. None of the testimony can be heard unless you listened to the audio of it each day.
Yes, I need visuals like this. Thank goodness for Gannon 💙🩵
All trials need to be live. Not only appropriate prison sentences for peoples crimes, but they must get humiliated and embarrassed, called out to the entire world, as the people they have shown themselves to be.
I agree
Where are the children? Give it up already.
It shows how desperate the state is for foster parents when they allow these two monsters within an inch of innocent children. Its obvious these foster kids were only a meal ticket to this pair. The cruelty they inflicted on Classic and Cincere should be inflicted on them. It was obvious from their first interview that they were lying, even the masks couldnt hide their evil deeds. Justice for Classic and Cincere.
I think one of the biggest problems is the state and county paying private agencies to manage foster cases. The private agencies are paid to oversee these children’s home lives and often do a horrible job at judging the character of the adults who apply to provide care. We really need to put more money into this system and require extensive psychological testing. We need to disqualify adults who aren’t making enough money to provide their current family a comfortable life. There are so many more things we can do to help ensure a safer environment for these poor children.
Very strange that Jacqueline never left the house. As a mother, you would think she would have run out into the yard to look around and out in front of house. They had other children at home, so I understand someone had to stay back with the kids, but as a Mom the first thing you're going to do is run out into the front yard/street calling for your children.
From what I've seen and heard re this case, I don't believe the boys were ever in Ca City.
The other children wasn't there. If they were there I would have them stay put in the house while I'm walking up and down the streets looking for my babies. That would be a natural thing to do.
you don't do that if the kids were never there. they came up with this stupid story after both the boys were already dead. they were just trying to cover their tracks, thank
God they are as stupid as they are.
It was reported at the time the other children were with grandparents so the couple could prepare Christmas presents but this couple couldn't explain why the 2 boys were not staying with the grandparents too. Then the couples poor excuse for these poor boys being in the garden in the late afternoon waa because they wanted to play with chalk despite it being too cold at the time of their alleged disappearance.
@@renettegordley3493 I wouldn’t leave any children at home alone if a different child of mine was missing. I’d want to be out searching but it wouldn’t be natural for me to leave small children at home alone. I would likely call over a trusted neighbor or family member to come stay with them.
The other children were at grandparents.
Please get justice for those two innocent little boys.
This is the calmest parent I have ever seen…
That is face of evil! Like the Leticia Stauch case and she got two life Sentences no parole plus !
Tiffany moss also did
That last photo of Orson just broke my heart. 😢 There is such sadness in his face.
He is so precious! How could they be so cruel?!
Both of their eyes are soulless especially the husband it's sad what happened to these children my heart aches for them
If they don't tell the detectives were those sweet little angels "bodies" are; they should be sentenced to immediate death. This shit needs to stop.
Thas what i said
Wait, why the hell is the state paying people to adopt kids. I can understand providing funds and resources for foster parents, because the goal usually is a safe and secure placement (as much as possible in that situation) for children until they can be reunited with their parents or other family members. But for someone to adopt them, they should be doing it with the intention of wanting to raise that child as their oen for the rest of their lives.......which includes wanting to provide them the things they need that costs money. Sounds like they are insentivizing the permanent displacenent of a child from their parents. So my question is, how much does the social workers and others involved get for each adoption? Where does the money come from? Obviously the tax payer but who is the middle man? This is very strange and wrony to me.
And this case shows why they shouldn't pay for adoption... 🤷♀️
I remember this case breaking in the news. Chilling to hear what the siblings testified. Can't begin to imagine what happened to the little boys.
They Never moved to that house with those kids
Poor babies should've stayed with their bio mom. The system is really messed up!
God bless those children - rest in paradise. The interview from the eldest son Adrian broke this case wide open. 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Where can we watch that?
As much as I want these two goofies to be held accountable, that opening statement wasn't very reassuring. It really makes one wonder what on earth Cal City police were doing all those weeks they sat around warning people about bothering the foster parents, and holding completely useless press conferences.
The difference between this video quality and the Letitia Stauch trial is like 2023 versus 1996.
😂😂 forreal!!!
They need subtitles for the inaudible parts
Feel so bad for the son Adrian as well to have to carry such a huge secret on his shoulders is so horrible
How many people let these poor babies down ….
I hope they never get there other children back and are found guilty pure evil.
Those poor sweet innocent boys!! Any violent crime committed against children, especially MURDER should immediately be a maximum penalty. But we don't care about children in this country . If we did, then CPS would be the most well funded government agency with the most experienced investigators and every resource-- and yet it's the worst.
After watching the letecia stauch trial, this prosecutor seems a little off or doesn’t know the case that well.
yeah i was thinking the same thing. hes not too impressive.
The trial is actually almost done. The prosecution has rested and defense just began their case in chief this week. Up until now, the only coverage was live audio feed from the court. Replay was not permitted. Apparently, the judge changed his mind
@@MissaPality i much prefer visuals! Thanks for the update!
Well hopefully he does well enough to convince the jury, because those 2 boys need justice too, and those 2 adoptive "parents" are guilty as sin in my opinion.
We just get spoiled when we see really good (star) attorneys, so everyone else doesn't look as good. He's doing his best.
This opening statement should already sway the jury, if I had been on it and never heard anything of this case I would by now be very suspicious
$4k a month simply for adopting? That sounds troubling. Think of the amount of people who will do it just for a check?
I knew someone who adopted kids for a check. She eventually grew to love them and treated them good, but her main motive in the beginning was a check.
Evil walks amongst us everyday. How awful.
Praying for these tiny angels ❤️❤️
This trial will prove why every child services agency in the United States needs investigated at a federal level. Too many children become victims of murder because of legalized child trafficking.
These poor kids were abused from birth and taken away from the bio mom because of it, only to goto another abusive and disgusting home. Just fucking sad
Everyone involved in this adoption should be tried and put in prison. The judge that signed the final decree, the caseworkers that placed those boys, every single person that didn't stand up and ask, "What the hell are you doing" should also go to prison. Who adds two children to a family that already has four kids, and no income? Eight people in a small apartment? Even my 5-year-old grandson can do simple math... Everyone involved in this adoption is culpable for their murders.
i absolutely agree!!! every single person involved is responsible!!
These poor little kids who witnessed this trauma and were aware their younger adopted baby brothers are missing. They remember! Bless those kids hearts. They are probably terrified by the parents. They were probably scared to death because their brothers were crying too much and ended up gone. God help these babies ! May justice be done !
If these two get off for some reason I hope everyone is ready to give them street justice at least. I hope they never ever have one single minute of peace. No one else on this earth can convince me they didn’t kill these babies
Such a long time to get rid of those babies and these creeps will never admit to what they did and where the children have been dumped. I really hope that the prosecution presents a strong case that can get some justice for these sweet siblings.
I will never understand how and or why people hurt children this is such a sad situation 😥🙏 i pray they get their deserved justice may they're rest be in heavenly peace 🕊️
I pray for justice for these babies man
I’m praying for this madness to end . Omg save our children . It’s becoming so common for innocent children to suffer deaths at hands of those that is supposed to be caring for them 😢
Only photos we ever seen cause there was no damn pix
And she admits she always kept them separate. What the Hell ???
Please , These sweet little boys need to get JUSTICE !!!
I didn't know that they were actually adopted. If there were so many biological relatives why didn't one of the relatives adopt the children?
I thought they were distant relatives... I could be wrong.
Poor unloved neglected little kids who cried a lot.......that is so sad. I've had 4 kids and they didn't cry a lot at that age. They were too busy having fun and getting into mischief.
Ugh. I am so tired of bad audio during trials!! Trying to get through the interviews with Letecia Stauch last week, and now these interviews- it is incredibly frustrating! I’ve got my AirPods in and volume all the way up and still can barely make out what is being said.
1st world problems. Ur lucky there's even audio.
Nora Ramos, there’s a cc closed captioning on the top right of the video.
@@sandilobianco6734 oh, I know it lol!! The CC can’t decipher the audio either. Some of the things that come across the screen with the closed captions are pretty funny for sure
Im confused , didnt this trial start weeks ago?
Not being rude but I thought this couldn’t be streamed live?
Like I said before, these children were nothing but a paycheck.
EXACTLY
Despicable baby farmers, child abusers, murderers! Put them UNDER the prison. They’re not even smart, their interview was laughable
Damn. The Leticia Stauch and Lori Daybell trials have really overshadowed this one. I forgot this was going to trial at the same time.
How infuriating!! Where are the bodies?!?!?! That is so weird!!
I blame the system and law makers for allowing this to happen.
Let’s blame the people who are out there hurting children first
@@WhiteRabbit1209 you do you and I will worry about me. Capisce.
They need to tell where the little boys bodies are😢
Right!
Fr
Justice for Children 🙏🙏
Just lock them up and throw away the key
I believe unfortunately that they will be acquitted for second-degree murder due to lack of evidence and insufficient Police work however, I do believe that they will get convicted on some of these child abuse charges just hoping they don’t get out for time served because these two people are monsters, and his son, who testified against them is going to be terrified for the rest of his life of these two people are walking the street.
Don’t think they will be aquitted one the lie that kids were at grandmas .. and they were never ! Kinda like the Daybell case except they did find the bodies . With all the lies .. yea they will be convicted ! Have faith ! Justice will be served !
@@allisonhaskell5440 🤞🏼
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3 years it takes for this trial to happen???
Lori Vallow’s took 3 years. That length of time gives the prosecutors ample time to get solid proof.
Reminder there are surviving children who’ve been traumatized. Wondering who will ensure they’re well cared for and receive the support they deserve and need.
Justice for those two adorable innocent boys!! 🙏🙏🙏
23:12 “she didn’t see or hear the kids in the car, she didn’t necessarily LOOK for them” what kind of sick fuck do you have to be to cover up for these people. i’ve never gotten into a car, much alone with CHILDREN in it and not noticed and acknowledged everyone in the car. sounds like perjury to me
Praying for justice for those two beautiful boys. ❤❤
True common sense screams these kids did not “wonder off” in these patches Jacklyn Also you both say someone “took them” seriously? There’s absolutely no way ☠️ Plus NO AMBER ALERT? Come on now 😳
Amber alerts are not up to the parents. Also, there was no information to suspect an abduction.
Pretty sure the police were suspicious of parents very early on.
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It’s so sad and unimaginable when biological parents abuse or kill thief own children,.. but it’s even sadder and more unimaginable when parents/people who adopt orphans take them in for the money only, then abuse or kill them. How/Why are some children so unfortunate in life? None of us asks to be born into this already sufferable world. Poor little innocent babies and children.💔
and now abortion is illegal in some states of the US
Can't hear it
i hope these boys get justice.. i remember this case and not hearing much. then seeing the parents were finally accused and caught. i could tell from the beginning..
They’ll never tell what happened or where they are. They are evil and they think they can just deny deny deny……sick!
THAT'S TRUE
They should be forced to tell the location of their bodies!! So they can be laid to rest properly.
Exactly I agree
Disgusting people ! CPS should be held accountable for all the children they have failed. #GabrielFernandez #AnthonyAvalos
Geeze chew with your mouth closed or else. Omg! How horrific are these defendants?
These deaths could have been prevented and CPS should also be responsible, It turns my stomach every time when I hear how they’ve let these children down, start checking these people out better,that was their income solely,Red Flag.
We all need to really stop placing all of the blame on CPS and start blaming all of the biological parents that are recklessly having children knowing they are not mentally or financially stable to raise them. The biological parents are to blame here. They failed those two precious boys.
@@LeslieMcElwee
How about holding cps responsible?
@@LeslieMcElweeBio parents def played a role
When cps takes the children from the parents and give them to their murderers
Out of the frying pan and into the fire .poor little kids with short lives of misery
4K is not a lot of money guys for 4 kids u don’t even like !!!! Or want these r broke ppl and he was a wannabe rapper what apartment allows 8 ppl ? To stay there that’s here in Arizona is 3 bedroom max for apartment and that’s rare to find
Crazy azz Californication is a whole different bunch of idiots
6 kids. They had 2 of their own & 4 adopted. Then murdered two.
It's alot of money when you spend nothing on the children there kid had toys not the adopted kid with a check
That may be why they bought the house.
It's a whole lot of money if that is the only income that you have. Plus I'm guessing that they had actually subsidized housing. Regardless that is a whole lot of money when that is the only source of your income
Can't hear the clips at all. At all.
*This is absolutely heartbreaking*
And here we go again I am so sick of people hurting children if I was nit a convicted felon I would become a prosecuter or something I would put them all away to the best of my ability in a place where there I no protection just like they did not protect these innocent children. My 21 year old daughter passed last year and I am beyond devastated 😢. F*** these badlands that harm kids
The system has been riding this case to dam long it's time to convict them already taxes payers money going to waste I don't see how couyyou kill these two babies and not feel nothing about what you did
Excellent presentation!👏🏻
Justice for these babies! How could you, they deserved better!!