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A "Yes" vote in September's independence referendum would of course be momentous for Scotland, but what effect would it have on the rest of the United Kingdom..on the remaining rump?
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Lol, the comments on here are hilarious after spending so much time steeped in the relatively polite and considerate world of the Yes Scotland and Better Together Facebook pages.
This isn't about Scotland versus England, it's about Scotland versus Westminster. Every person making this about some rivalry which doesn't really exist outside sporting events is momentously missing the point.
Well put ! ;)
But they will keep trying to make it about anything except Westminster - we’re already seeing attempts at contriving a Catholic/Protestant, Celtic/Rangers, Scotland/England divide.
John Cook - this just looks like more “whip up a frenzy” nonsense. The great majority of Scots barely think about England or English people. There is a great distrust of Westminister, and a desire to be independent. Actually, it would probably do England good if it was to become independent of Westminister too.
@@thegolem797 I'm not trying to wind up anyone. I think anyone who hates the English for stuff that happened hundreds of years ago to people they never met are mentally ill. The trouble is there are a large number who think this way. The stickers and slogans are still up all over the town is live in and you should see and hear the hate from people if you walk about with a union jack flag on you no matter how small. These idiots feel so hard done by . I just don't get what their problem is.
John Cook - people like that are pretty sad, and they bring the independence movement into disrepute. What part of Scotland are you in - I certainly don’t see any anti-English stickers and slogans here in East Renfrewshire. The most I’ve seen is the traditional rolling of the eyes when 1966 is mentioned by commentators within ten seconds of any World Cup soccer match 😂
Churchill was right in one way.,. "The best argument against Democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the electorate".. or in this case a 5 minute read of these ridiculous comments.
In my opinion Scotland should vote yes.. Its about Scotland making a statement against neo liberal policies that have dominated much of the politics in the last 70 years.
Working/middle class people should all hope Scotland finds a way to make the change work. Then i hope English people look north and inspired by successful left wing revolution in Scotland do there utmost to rid our selves of puppets (muppets) we have in power. There rich kids and career politicians with no social conscious at all. if we don't do things for the good of society and social justice then whats the point?
its not about English people hating Scottish People or vice versa, its not even about oil for once.. The world is changing and for these islands and indeed Europe the tide has started turning.. Where we end up is any ones guess.
Were all different and thats fine, its our humanity that unites us. Don't make the neo liberals job easier by undermining socially democratic ideas with nationalism. This is about political class not working class values.. Normal working and middle class people share similar values the world over. This has been my experience. people generally know whats right and wrong. doing it is a choice. We the 99% are most definitely in this together no matter what flag we stand under....
Churchill didn't say that. It's a fake quote. He said that democracy was the worst system in the world except for all the others that have been tried from time to time.
Tee hee hee hee hee!
If London had treated its neighbour and the rest of the uk for that matter more fairly maybe this wouldn't be happening. The Greed and contempt is so clear for all to see.
Considering the warmonging history of the British oligarchy,nothing could be more beautiful for humanity than democracy coming to the Scottish nation ! It will diminish the sociopathic power of Westminster ,which is something good for humanity !
You sound sick. And not in the hip hop sense.
Yes, Scotland is deeply embedded in the British war mongering history, you can't wash that blood off your hands so easily.
SNP democracy, the 2 words don’t fit together. The SNP haven’t honoured either of the 2 democratic referendums held in the last 6 years , your hypocrites.
That such a cheesy special effect at 2:00
Se7enBeatleofDoom, anyone want to play Jenga?
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England brought this on themselves by voting Tory. Bye.
Sarah Better than Scottish controled labour party,so you think it’s fair that Scotland dominated uk politics all thoss Blair years?
lol... if we voted labour they would have busted the UK. ffs
They speak the same language. Its just a geographic difference with the Scottish leaders wanting more power for themselves.
I think it's a matter now not of if but when. The outcome was so close, and it tended to be older people that voted to stay in the Union.
And seeing as the SNP dominated the elections after the referendum, it's obvious people like the idea of Scotland being independent. They will be some who voted no because they thought Scotland wasn't ready, but we might be at the next referendum. And they'll be people like me, who wasn't sure, who didn't mind either way, but just voted no seeing as it's what I'm used too. Next time around I'll be voting yes
my dad works for an aluminium company and is quite high up on marketing. i was currently unemployed at the time of the referendum. so in his best interests i voted no. because it would have gave him far better access to jobs within the market. granted majority of his work is in and around glasgow but he does stuff abroad as well as down in england. so yeah that was primarily one of the reasons, he listed a bunch more that i cant really remember. but for a man nearing his 50's and keeps up to date on politics that could effect a business i trust his choice's from time to time.
Im scottish
WHY DIDNT I HEAR OF THIS?
Re-drawing centuries old boundaries in the 1990’s just sums up how Scotland has been treated by Westminster.
The government should be less concerned about oil and more about the insanely huge potential for renewables in Scotland and the control and endless stream of income that will provide as we move into the future.
What part of brigadoon are you from ?
Winston Churchill quote “Of all the small nations of this earth, perhaps only the ancient Greeks surpass the Scots in their contribution to mankind”
Whether you wish to admit it the English don’t want to let us go !, times up we’re going
Where are you going .?
Thank god !! It’s only Westminster who want you not the rest of England
Scottish taxpayers have to pay to idiots who decided it was a good idea to build houses in a flood zone. So much money that is spent on fools than on our underfunded education system. Vote Yes!
im genuinely so close to going either way at this stage tbh, trying to educate myself as much as possible before the vote.
the way I see it either way we are going to get fucked over by a gang of politicians again.
I agree with your sentiments. I have seen no reputable economic experts talking about clear pros and cons nor have I seen any independent political experts talking about the pros and cons in terms of national and international futures. There's too much talk of history, rhetoric, strong words and sensationalism. The closest I've found to a rational series of logical thought thus far is from George Galloway. I've yet to find a coherent rationalé from the Yes campaign but I'm still trying.
Did anyone else not realise this was posted 5 years ago when it showed up on your recommended?
How is the good Friday agreement working ?
Oh they are back talking to each other now,Boris bunged them another £2 billion,all is well.
Everything is fine now
Vote YES SCOTLAND X
U drunker
All the talk in world does not change the fact that EVERY country in the world wants be in charge of it's own destiny regardless of the out come. Whole streets in Scotland some say on welfare, look to Liverpool, Manchester and so on. Maybe what the rest of England should be thinking about is, do they also relate to London, I doubt it.
At 1:44 look at the building in the background. Old high tech building
Much better I should imagine
I'm all for whatever the Scottish people vote for.........although, in a way I'd like them to vote for independence, because if they vote 'no', all that will have happened is, this issue will have been kicked down the road, only to be revisited in another 20-30 years' time.
Here we are, a mere 5 years later 😂
@@al_ee 😂😂
It would generally make me very sad if Scotland vote yes. I'm 26 years old. I don't fully understand the political and economical impact for a Yes or a No vote.
All I know is that I'm British, I don't refer to myself as English very often (football matches mostly), I grew up as British, learning about what we the British achieved and being very proud of this amazing nation and it's constant ability to punch above it's weight. with our Industrial, Science and Arts.
The Scottish Yes Vote may give the Scottish people the identity they feel they have never had. But at the same time they are going to rob 50+million people of theirs in the process.
I urge the Scottish to Vote No for Independence, by doing so they needn't choose to be Scottish or British they can continue to be both and why would you not want that?
Why would you want to be British if you were living in Scotland. Other countries think Britain and think of england, people don't even know what we are, the same goes for Wales. I hate being called british, it makes me want to puke
+Ross Brennan Well sorry to break it to you guys here, but Scotland and Wales have similar accents and also have similar behaviors. They are also so close to each other which is why they as an whole are called Britains. I love being called British. I would not mind at all.
Everything.
And this is why I am moving to Tipperary, Ireland
Céad Míle Fáilte
Id be ashamed to be scottish if we didnt get independence, how embarrassing man would it be to be the only country in the world not to want there indepence when they have the chance to
Scottish independence wouldn't benefit anyone. You would be ashamed if you did become independent
lol
Scotland is just as independent as England, you entered a union,, incedentley against the wishes of the English parliament,, England paid your debts from Scotland's failed colonial experiment, if you wish to leave great, I just hope that debt is repaid before the you go
I think English should vote to kick them out of the Union
They need us more than we need them
@@lukechadwick578 Hardly. Nothing in my daily life would change if we left the union. Except we would have full control over our country.
As a Scot. So do we.
We all know the begging starts though once the referendums begin. Just like last time "pls dont go Scotland".
Swurvin Creations it’s our soft minded leaders that want Scotland to stay as a english man I’ve just about had enough of it all I’d gladly vote for them to leave nothing against you Scots but we just subsidise Scotland far too much for a country with a population of 5million
@@warrenhall8569 That's what they tell you. I guarantee you, you do NOT subsidise us. We literally give you our entire budget for Westminster to chop up and give us half of it back. Then pretend your subsidising things when the budget that you gave us isn't enough. We wouldn't have this problem if we just kept our entire economy to spend as seen fit. Scotland is a 250 billion pound economy, first world country with only 5 million people. We can definitely live within out means. This a different situation for England as you lot are bursting at the seams in population numbers.
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That's a different clip.
Good to have a reminder about the maritime border though.
I disagree I hope they say yes, they have been a massive drain of are resources, watch the Scots come crawling back when there bankrupt.
Behave yourself mate, they want us to stay simply cause we are stronger together no other reason, we baled out your bank, still hoping for a yes vote and we will see in a few years who needs one more than the other
Thomas Kennard why would you want to join the EU is horrible..look what joining the Eu did for Italy spain Cyprus Greece and Ireland.. they end up taking over crashing ya political and money systems and gaining power on who runs in ya elections and gaining power over y amoney..its stupid. I say don't join the EU be free and trade with whom ever you want when you want how you want and keep control over ya money and election process
Thomas Kennard they should go and if Scotland is such a shitty place why is England so desperate to keep them?
Funny how things turn out...
Am English but I think Scotland should decide what they want without any interference from us. We should be the uk because they want it.
Correct.......but Westminster doesn't make good decision for Scotland
I'm an englishman and I think you should vote yes. I know I would if I were a scot. Be brave, take the step, believe in yourselves. What have you got to lose, more decades of being controlled by those muppets in westminster? Grasp this opportunity to be what you want to be with both hands. It's going to be hard, but worthwhile things never come easy.
If you can't do it for yourselves, do it for me. I want to see the look on the westminster boys faces when they get kicked in the nads by the consequences of their own actions.
We could have been better together, but seeing as we are together on paper they never bothered trying to make that a reality. Just stole your oil and used you for tax experiments.
A no vote is you agreeing that you can't, that you need westminster, that you aren't brave enough, committed enough, intelligent enough to run your own lives. Why would you accept crap like that, it's the argument to be a victim.
Look at the no campaign, lots of reasons not to go, not one reason to stay that doesn't benefit them more than you. Every labour politician proposing no is thinking scots don't vote tory. Every tory suggesting no is thinking I like the way it is, f**k the scots.
Where is what you want in that?
Do it!
Please let this happen
our brothers in scotland want their independence, do not want to be slaves of england, do not want to be slaves of nato, live free of scotland, God bless you scotland, can you you guys are strong, god bless, 1 big hug, We are praying for the people of Scotland, ( Argentina, Brazil, Peru, Venezuela, Paraguay, uruguay, Russia, North corea, China, Vitnã, Africa, Bolivia, e etc... all love you scotland free
My Grandfather served with English,Welsh and Northern Irish shipmates on HMS Kent during Ww2 .He loved Scotland and Britain,so I owe it to his memory to not split from our Brothers and Sisters on these Islands.Salmonds vision for Scotland is not mine.Scotland could no doubt stand on it's own feet,but do we want to really break our close personal and historic ties because Salmond and other Nationalists have never wanted to be British.
Poetry :')
Im so happy your grandfather served on the Kent, mine was on the Hood, I also served, both in the Gulf and in the Falklands, I served with great people too but the thing you have to get into your skull its not about nationalities its about Westminster and the thieving lying robbing law abusing politicians that only see as far as London to the detriment of the rest of the UK, its broke and we are fed up being classed as the Scroungers when in truth we are paying more than others, we are sick of seeing our people ridiculed by others and this is our chance to take the international stage. I say to you, if you feel that we dont contribute, if you are sick of us, if you dont like us, then fine let us go and stop 'love bombing' us. We are happy to go but its just the politicians that know we are too valuable for the UK economy to go that wont let us go !!
Don't leave us Scotland we want to continue to shaft you on a daily basis
I'm scottish pal , i was being sarcastic
@@gav25x Poor oppressed scots, how on earth you manage against the evil English ill never know. BRAVEHEART IS 100% REAL LIFE!
If England ad a vote there would not be a UK
Answer to vids question title is - the UK would be better off as less tax-revenue would head north, an we dont need scot oil as UK has gas rigs off the coast of England !
+ oil will run dry an devalue !
Scotland's turn has come , to join that list of independent won countries of the World that suffered under the Imperial England of past centuries. That empire was obtained with the blood and sweat of Scotland's magnificent fighting men and intelligent minds. The price has been paid as the time approaches for Freedom . That freedom is a right , in this present Free world. Scotland claim what you are entitled to at last and do vote yes.
Victim culture piffle!
LordGodofMercy No victim culture. It is Freedom and Independent Culture. This is the 21st and not the 18th century . Got it ?
GILLEBRATH Err.. It is you that's banging on about the past. Victim culture, revisionist crap!
Daniel Clements
Zzzzzz always the troll,always seeking attention,always looking for others to give you attention. You trolls are so different from us you might as well be from a different planet
Bob Wilson What is your point ? Scotland served England in its conquests to form Empire and all these countries are now free. That admittedly was throughout the past centuries but this 21st century has independent self governing countries, you can find the list of them yourself under England rule when the Union Jack covered the globe . I am aware of the act of union what is your point ? you want to shift focus to it ? this debate was not about " Act of Union " but rather a potential UK without Scotland ,life for both England and the independent people of Scotland if she choose self government. I am stating that Scotland deserves the same consideration to govern herself just as well as India for example now does and the rest of the former Empire do. History speaks the truth hate , gets you nowhere.
A chance of tory rule for five more years eh no. independence please i will vote yes yes yes.
Ayrtopend talk about 5 more years
At the next revision of E.U. treaties in 2015, a new clause could be added to establish the formal category of an associate state of the European Union. Indeed there is all ready a precedent in E.U. law for associate membership such as Greece which went on to become a full E.E.C. member and modern day Turkey which is a present day E.U.associate member. Associate membership would require fidelity to the values and principles of the Union. However, it would not require adherence to all the political objectives of the Union, which include joining the euro. Nor would associate membership confer the duty to engage in all the activities of the EU.
They whould harm themselves by leaving
ITS SIMPLE...JUST VOTE A VERY BIG.......YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
i'm so pleased for Scotland
The fight continues
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maxi devolution or yes
Maxi Devolution or Yes
Vote yes for justice! Do not fear the goofy Londoners.
Styxhexenhammer666 people do realise that the news in the UK shows that all Englishmen want Scotland to stay but that's not true at all I would like them to fuck off most people I know do and the others don't really give a crap its funny and annoying to see the no campaign all over the news it makes me cringe when I see both sides singing songs to stay or leave makes us all look like a bunch of fackin fairy's for a Englishmen Scotsman Welshmen and a N.Irishmen to talk about there feelings is weird and ain't right so the sooner all this is over the better.
YES = FREEDOM . Wallace Spirit is back . Blair , Cameron : Labour ????
Blair is Scottish FFS
Cameron family is Scottish too
Wallace spirit????
I hope so....we like drawing and quatering. .
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDUMB
Scotland to leave and Wales will follow!
Daniel, are you aware that your lineage is part German? That your ancestors also went back and forth from France and Germany? That you yourself are in fact a product of immigration? You could look into it, clearly you have access to all the information the world has to offer. Do not be enslaved by laziness x
English are Germanic and are not native to the island of Britain it be through genetically or culturaly.
alan wxm What the fuck are you on about,im from sheffield and got english scottish and irish ancestors,like most from the north....How many scots are of "pure" scottish blood?
Culturally and genetically the English are Germanic. The language of the English falls under the category of Germanic. Do abit of research you dafty.
Also the Scottish are picts and gaels who are from Ireland. The Romans called them the "scoti" which is Latin for Gael. Which we now call Scotland which is the land of the Scots. The only native strock that are actually Britons are the Welsh,Cornish and Bretons.
Am using this for a country report,🤪
Survive?
We voted No and we'll vote no gain
Quisling.
Have you checked the opinion polls recently matey🤔
NO=GIVING THE GAS AND OIL TO WESTMINSTER
What oil ? You are running out mate
Yes mean Westminster not giving Scotland 15 billion bail out each year
Another option Scotland could look at is establishing the "Scottish Korne" and going into a Korne union with Norway and Denmark.
You're probably the first person to think about and people and now thinking about this an option so good job
@@jamescraig8975 Thanks man. I think from the nationalists point of view they will have to look at all opinions on the table.
@@swissnorvanzyl3734 aye well me being from Kilmarnock which Is the south west of Scotland It would be great if we could get a referendum asap then we can make our own decisions
@@jamescraig8975 Well it seems the bexiteer are determined to to forge ahead now they won no matter the cost to Scotland the the U.K. as a whole. The E.U. is far from being prefect and need to be badly reformed. Nigel Farage and his ilk told a pack of lies and people believed them. What to the say great liars are also great magicians.
@@jamescraig8975 didn’t you have one in 2014
@universalsailor phahahaha made me and the missis laugh for ages, so true so true lol
FREEDOM
The UK would be richer!!
I hope, Scottish people smart enough to vote for their independence. It is a excellent opportunity for them and will encourage Welsh people to think about their independence in the future as well. Scotland and Wales can be more powerful if they can decide their own fucking damn decisions without getting permission from London. They deserve this more than anything.
So if Scotland get independence, will it be a kingdom or a republic? Somebody please explain the whole thing to me.
I do hope the Scots choose to leave the UK. The English deserve their independence.
yes you do. and I will vote YES to help you.
Ayrtopend
You won't be helping me, I'm Irish.
universalsailor sorry though you were south o the border
Ayrtopend
I am!
Can we have referendum in Yorkshire too ?
Let them have their independence ! Just make sure Carol Kirkwood is on this side of the new Berlin style wall 😛
We intend to keep her close to our chest..
4:38 says it all really !!!
they're all the same... north and south... politicians.
@@joecat4892 that’s very true mate.
But Scotland voted to stayed in the uk
The maritime border will move very quickly, when England leaves the EU the English would be banned from EU waters.
The fact that London 're-drew' the maritime border itself is the exact argument that will immediately revert to its original position. NO IFS, NO BUTS.
Even if it did take 10 years to resolve, London would be forced by international law to repay the money it took illegally.
Why do people always assume that London is right or special.
Catalonia is with you Scottish!!! Alba gu Brath!!!!!
Thank you Catelonia!
Joan6 shut up the uk is nothing like Spain pipe down.
They will never get independence, too many benefits for them to walk away the SNP is bluffing and many Scottish do not want independence they had a vote remaining in the uk was the outcome.
So is FREEDONIA and the Marx Brothers.
Andrew Mcgarrigle no more Scottish ppl want to leave than stay it’s just that the English keep voting no
My feelings on this matter is the fact Scotland shares the same island they have and always will be destined with the fact every political decision they make will effect their neighbors and almost every situation will be a difficult one to answer.
I feel their are plenty good arguments for both yes and no, and I wish the Scots and the rest of the U.K the best of luck the moment they reach their answer.
From
~your American neighbors.
- have a lot more money to spend!
Vote for INDEPENDANCE scotland let England fall onto tiny peices
@@sallyannekloar1470 well, England wouldnt fall into tiny pieces but they would lose almost 20% of all there income, not only does scotland have the highest employment rates in the uk, but it has one of the worlds fastest growing Tech industries, i mean if you take our population of 5 million vs englands 65 million, i think we are doing pretty good for a small country almost half ur size.
Let Scotland fall in to tiny pieces England want
@@johnfindlaymcgettigan9693 if you left you still think you would have a high employment rate?? How would you fund your own nhs??? Army, navy and air force?? New currency?? 80% of your trade with england and so on
@@deanburns8174 they don't get it they think the oil will sustain a entire country 😂😂😂
@@godzsyosis3633 You will find that since it started flowing its what has kept the UK alive, many times it has been in financial crisis even with the oil. Thats 65 million people, Scotland has 5 million. Scotland also has a healthy export situation and the oil is very far from being everything. Englands exports situation however is not so healthy.
If the UK is leaving the EU and scotland is also leaving the UK then the UK is not united but isolated. Then we must nickname the UK = "IK" = Isolated Kingdom !??? The question is if the isolated UK cant survive - can the british pound survive? The Euro today is so strong and gets stronger and stronger so the people in the UK have no chance but without scotland the UK is so weak and gets weaker and weaker and smaller and smaller so smaller like the point of then end of my sentence here that you cant find.
That stupid post of yours hasn't aged well 😂
no more free discriptions, no more free student fees, im english and would love to vote for the scots inderpendance it would save us a packet or should i say the pound!
The British pound, bank of England was founded by a Scot yah fucking bawbag.
I agree With Scottish and Welsh independence
Vote YES! Its for the BEST!
England and Wales would be fine...most of the economic activity is there.
Scotland will be relegated to a minor player, like Albania.
Scottish businesses will move south, a hard border will hamper scottish trade. England won't need to subsidise them.
England should play hardball.
This is why we need to vote no. Everyone thinks that after independence Scotland will be next world superpower but that is simply untrue. We would be known as that strange country above England
@@thestati0nmaster579 Exactly, its delusional.
I love Scotland, I've met many lovely people and I've Scottish ancestry...a real ginger!.... but the idiots voting SNP thinking they can be a superpower are deluded. The EU will either refuse them entry or accept them as a colony in return for the subsidies they need to replace those they lost after "independence".
If they join the EU, then they might as well not even leave. If not fuck it get the other Celtic nations to leave: Wales, Isle of Man, Cornwall, Brittany (from France), unite Ireland and form a Celtic alliance.
A better question would be whats it going to do WITH Scotland.
The british pound sterling cant survive without scottland!
well england would have to pay £500 million a year in transactions if they stop us from using the pound, which they wont, and if they were too, they will use it as a bargaining tool.....
Course it can...what the fuck are you talking about O.o
***** haha dumb Scottish do not understand they cant use British pound when they leave and their economy will hit to bottom of the ocean making Scotland a third world country
So speaks the voice of reason, so speaks someone from a country who has but one friend (The USA), so speaks a country who conducts genital mutilation !!! Dumb scots......Hmmmm Scotland's people are able to deal with problems with debate, not like the military action that you use. !!!
Gordon Downard hwe turn desert into water ways, we turn waste water into drinkable.. we don't depend on anybody. we don't wear skirts we create wonders and self reliance ..
Beeing a Dutchman, I must say I do not understand why the scottish people want to be fully independent from the UK. Yes, I know that Scotland has lots of natural resources which it can sell. And I know there are political differences with Londo every now and then. But you share so much history together. You jointly fought, suffred and were victorious in 2 world wars. Do you want that ignore that, trow this common history down the drain? As 1 country you are much better capabale to face the economic and security challenges that todays world poses to you.
And you are all seen as 'Brits' ( in a positive way) by alle people outside the UK and Scotland. God save your Queen and may you take a wise and democratic decision!
Greetings from the Netherlands (that also consists of different regions, but that choose to stay together!)
+Change6609 Scotland is a country,not a region!. Will Holland ever share government with Belgium ?-No!
+Change6609 We also spent around 500 years fighting English invasions!
Vival la FREEDOM
The same reason the Netherlands doesn't want to be part of a bigger country. That "common history" will still be there if Scotland and England exist as two independent neighbours in the future. If you don't understand why Scottish independence supporters want to be independent from the UK then you don't know enough about the issue. And no, we are not all seen as "Brits" outside Scotland. Very often when people from outside Scotland talk about "British people" they mean English people exclusively. Scotland has its own national identity.
Would you like it if Scottish people stuck their noses into Dutch constitutional issues? When the average Scottish person knows nothing about Dutch history and culture? No, I think Dutch people wouldn't be very happy if Scottish people instructed you to make decisions that would make your country worse off, when they know nothing about your country. Scottish people don't get involved in matters that are only for Dutch people to decide, so it would be nice if you as a Dutchman showed Scottish people the same courtesy.
The media as biased and fearful as it is now. The media are little EUers and little UKers with regards to Scotland referendum. English are more libertarian, trade orientated and adventurous than the rest of the union. That being unleashed would probably lead to a stronger England. I like the union but if the others want independence then that is their choice and I see no problems for England, although London would suffer as we would vote more definitively as one, which would not allow the London-centric view to exist. The London -centric view exists because there is so much diversity in political views across the union that no single view exists, leading to the London ruling elite greater freedom.
Be careful what you wish for
The United Kingdom is better UNITED. We are stronger together and have one of the longest histories of any nation in the world. A great history that while a large part of it has been bloody, it has also has great achievement’s and has brought us to the developed, free nation we are now. Together we are an important partner with NATO, a crucial part of the Global 20 (G20) and Global 8 (G8) and a great global power. If we are broken up we would be a laughing stock of a nation among other nations. Not only would we be a smaller nation but no doubt will affect us economically and military in terms of size and presence. Russia is gaining land, Argentina is on our case over the Falkland’s and we live in an uncertain world where terrorism is rife.
In the UK unemployment rate of the economically active population is 6.9% and the UK economy has grown by 0.8% in the first quarter of 2014! Not to mention the 3.1% growth in 2013...Its stance has been bolstered by falling inflation, which dropped to 1.6% last month, its lowest rate in more than four years!
I ask my fellow scots who want to vote for an Independent Scotland…. Are you really that hard up? Are you really suffering as result of being part of the UK? Don’t you think that together we can make this nation better and stronger? We have just gone through one of the biggest recessions in history and as a nation with have stood tall and have little austerity measures compared to other powerful nations including Spain, Greece and Italy who have experience riots, strikes and huge unemployment.
I urge you to VOTE NO!
STAY AS UNITED KINGDOM - STAY AS GREAT BRITAIN!
I like this bit
" We have just gone through one of the biggest recessions in history and as a nation with have stood tall and have little austerity measures "
good old Britannia eh
1 are you not aware we were bailed out like everyone else from the IMF leaving us even more in debt.
2.as for having little austerity measures , we are not even halfway through the current proposed cuts.
rod addison lol... u do make me laugh.
1: Last time Britain was bailed out wa sin 1976 so not really sure what Island you're living on.
2: Austerity..... we have had very little compared to the countries so stop being so negative.
man you are really boring
vietkonggroove Don't bother reading and replying. I mean you could always just .... fuck off? just a thought.
:P
the united kingdom is history #indyref2
I think you mean what would scotland do lol hardly going to effect us as much as them!
Stert greeting
Scotland will be in great difficultly when it is not part of UK and the EU. EU clearly said they will need to reapply and get all the EU members to vote yes. Spain will not vote yes as they will want to make an example of Scotland. If they make it hard as possible for Scotland then it will help them keep their country together. If they make it easy for Scotland then Catalan will be empowered and will go for independence even more. The Scots say that independence doesn't effect Spain but it does as Catalan will look at Scotland as an example of success or failure.
***** you are the stupid one. If you watch the news then you would know that Spain's Current Government already said they will Vito Scotland from joining the EU. The head of the EU few weeks ago said clearly some countries like Spain will most likely Vito Scotland from joining to EU. So it will be really hard or impossible for Scotland to join. This was said by the head of the EU (no me). Watch the news before you comment. I made my comment as I do watch the news. Spain would rather have their country together in one piece than care about fishing rights. Spain knows an independent Scotland will be bad for their country as it will be much harder to control Catalan. That is why they will have to make it hard. I am giving facts so what are you giving.
Adi B Scottish citizens have been in the EU for 40 years to expel them would go against everything the EU stands for...
Adi B and the EU commissioner who made those comments was a right winger who David Cameron is backing for a job with NATO go figure! Unfortunately the news you watch is totally biased towards the union you won't get balanced journalism on UK tv may I suggest RT for an honest view...
Why do you think EU cares about Scotland so much. Scotland's GDP is half that off Greece.
Adi B
haha per capita GDP of Scotland is higher than almost everyhwere in Europe.
And is almost the same as Greece's 250 billion or not that far off at about 220 billion despite having less than half of the population!
Try again Einstein.
I'd be happy for Scotland to be independent - the only draw back I can see is if England ends up being Tory land forever more - uuuuuuhhhh!
Well you could move up here you would be welcome.
Used to live in Scotland and would be happy to go back (being half Scottish too (well...half Orcadian, so we'll see how that works out)) - but family are down here (kids and grandkids)
The Old Man of the North
I'AM the same a lot of family down there . i can see them trooping back home .
HAS ANY SOIL RAISED SUCH BETRAYERS
Be little England same as it always has been. Last two words relevant.
The UK will recover from Scotland leaving, Scotland will not (The UK may even be better off tbh). Lets not forget that Scotland only joined the UK in the first place to avoid going bankrupt. They were bailed out.
Also, why leave the UK only to then be the bitch of the EU, which is far worse? If you want independence, stay in the UK and vote to leave the EU.
The Brits sounds like bitter, jelous and insecure boyfriend. Scotland should go independent, it's time to fly away.
The Scottish are brits you idiot.
Not for long :)
@random, Hope you get your wish. GoodLuck
Random Guy Yeah, for another few hundred years I reckon.
Tasia i totally agree 😂
Have they had permission to hold a referendum ?????
Be better off? England could even have it's own Parliament.
Don't worry England, Northern Ireland and Wales. I'm voting no for Scottish independence
As if anyone in England gives a flying fuck!!!!!
truefalse Mate, have you even watched the video.
+Sayayayaaa as Braveheart said: FREEEEEEEEDOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!
Sayayayaaa The vast majority of normal English people that work in Sainsbury's and spend their evenings tuned to planet Janet watching Coronation street do not give a single flying piece of shit and the upcoming referendum. In fact the majority probably don't even know a referendum is coming up.
VOTE YES VOTE YES VOTE YES
What would the UK do without Scotland? Breath a sigh of relief!
Scotland's vote has never counted in Westminster and we have not contributed to Labour winning .... get your facts right ! ..... wingsoverscotland.com/why-labour-doesnt-need-scotland/
Yes all the way on sept 18th
If Scotland leaving means no more labour government then good-bye Scotland.
What do people think about the idea the at an independent Scotland could become an associate member of the E.U. ie Scotland would not be a full member of the E.U., Scotland would not use the Euro, but the E.U. would back up Scotland's economy if Scotland got into financial trouble. And Scotland would except and be bound by the E.U. Courts and treaties on thing's like health & safety and special conversion areas ect?
Not a damn thing
Scotland could Establish a "Scottish Krone" and like Denmark peg it to the Euro like Denmark and Scotland could then join the Nordic Council, the Council of Europe, the European Free Trade Association and the the European Economic Area and still trade with the E.U. like Norway, Iceland and Switzerland.
What would the UK do without Scotland? Be a hell of a lot better off, that's what.
would not be the UK then would it, as neither Wales or N.I are kingdoms.
they would still have wales and northern ireland
they are more than welcome to them as well.
Wales has said they want to go indy and Northern Ireland have been trying for years
Have a party all night long😹😹
Well, I would not be here....