You really don't need that. Rima Das made a feature film that went to Netflix and won the National Award (best award in India) all with one cheap Canon camera and her local cousin helping out, all the actors were relatives from her village.
@@boteng8213 From her interviews, it sounds like perseverance and practice. And working within one's restraints, but extremely creatively (so not a film of young people talking in apartments)
@@pzz6367 Wrong. When you pursue things earlier in life- where you learn basic and then advanced skills needed for your industry- you will be in a better position to know where to save money- so you never need so much to waste triple on stupid mistakes. Film is very skill specific. Nobody ever directed a successful movie- who just had money. If you do not believe me, you can take a lesson from Anapurna Films. This the company of "the" Larry Elison's daughter. He gave her a few hundred million to start with and has now cut the drain, because the company was bleeding money since it's inception.
@@JJDvorshak Never said you don't need an education. You can still study film while having money. Especially with film, many who go into the industry don't reach where they want to be. Only small few portion of those who study film end up being able have creative freedom (making their own movies). People who don't have money, don't have time. Having money gives you time and security. It lets you do what you want.
@@pzz6367 Yeah, sure. But in life there are no guarantees. And you don't get your time back. So choose wisely. Nobody will guarantee you riches. Ever. So you at least try not to hate your journey. Listen, I'm a learner. My main want is to be a film director in Hollywood. I have plans to make a fully birthed TH-cam channel as my plan b- or a side gig. And I have another research going for an unrelated business- which could be lucrative, but take valuable time away, so choosing it is hard. Then there is just a faint idea of learning C# up to an acceptable level to maybe make a game with 5 other people (2 devs + producers, 3 artists, 1 marketing consultant)- working for equal percentages- and try to make some seed capital for a movie. I'm in my late 20s and I want to make it too. Fact remains, that you need total dedication and time for opportunities. So 10 years working on something for hoping to be rich. Or 10 years simply working in the industry you need to be in- and having the same odds. It's an illusion you can have it both ways- usually. So choose wisely. Right now, I'm just looking for any kind of work. It is not appreciated enough in this world today to simply start from root level and being somebody's tea boy.
It's probably worth mentioning that while The Lighthouse did have a significantly bigger budget than the other two, $4 million is still considered an indie movie and a relatively low budget considering they shot on film and hired Willem Dafoe and Robert Pattinson.
As someone who wants to direct movies, This was very helpful. I still have a lot to learn when it comes to making films but with more help like this, I'm sure to get there!!!
You'll learn so so so much more when you start doing it. Try things see what works what doesn't, this way or that way etc. Ideas will start rushing through your mind. Ask around, get contacts, put a word out, ask people to put a word out, and soon you'll find people as passionate as you. And most importantly HAVE FUN!! You need very little budget to make something great. Take one thing at a time and don't worry about every single thing that's going right or terribly wrong. Focus on your work. All you got to do is make the picture as you see it in your mind.
Once I thought that "Frances Ha" by Noah Baumbach was a semi-budget film, but then I found out it was a $3mil film ahahah. It was shot on canon5dMk2 though
Yeah, sometimes it's just a matter of how you want to distribute the budget. Some films place more importance on paying for cast/locations and less importance on technical gear. Some prioritise getting a specific visual aesthetic for the film which requires more money. Frances Ha just goes to show how much you can achieve with minimal camera gear.
As you can imagine, the choice of camera wasn't a financial constraint for Frances Ha. In the Criterion extras I believe there's an interview where Baumbach says he just wanted to shoot on DSLRs.
@@askl23 You are correct. They tested different camera's and liked the look of the 5d the best. They liked how it was somewhat grainy, similar to shooting on film but not.
I can’t be the only one confused on how he got Sarah Paulson an actress with an estimated 10 millions net worth to be in an indie budget movie like that’s amazing !!!
A lot of big actors join indie projects to reinvent themselves or explore how great their skills are. Now that producers see how well they can perform, they can get on some "artsy" high budget film
Well, Mark Duplass wrote it so that helps. The director Alex Lehmann was a camera operator on The League, where he became friends with Mark. So either Mark knew Sarah already or just the fact that he was involved was enough for Sarah to spend a week doing the movie.
A lot of times is through common friends, etc. De Niro and Bruce Willis had made movies for free, just because they wanted to work with a specific director
@@LuisSierra42 In this instance Mark Duplass is friends with Sarah Paulson's best friend Amanda Peet. I'd recommend watching the q&a they did with SAG-AFTRA. It goes a little more into the decisions made about making and filming Bluejay th-cam.com/video/Kimc-Habee0/w-d-xo.html
it’s so amazing! i’m a fan of sarah paulson (the woman in the movie), which made me want to watch this indie film called Blue Jay, and oh was i not disappointed. the two actors in that movie really made it feel like a real life conversation, not to mention that most of that movie was improvised! it’s very raw and very emotional, i recommend watching it. it’s on netflix :)
Brazilian Goddess your basically sitting there calling the film generic when it’s not. There so to the story other than 2 drunk sailors and it’s obvious you have no knowledge on film. This film is a modern day The Shining but you’re to blind to actually look into the film
I really appreciate that you're sharing your experience in no budget, what i think is one of the most difficult parts of starting in cinematography. Really informative video. A video on soft lighting techniques like cove or book lighting will be awesome.
So great to see more South Africans making great stuff on this platform. As a cine educator, the throughline here that I think requires discussion is the power of audio. Aesthetically budget buys control, but the barrier to entry for a lot of productions is the difficulty of getting great sound, without which viewers normally won't accept a product. My favourite example is the 2015 film Tangerine. The movie was shot on iPhones and the audience quickly accepted the diegesis of that aesthetic. However, they would never risk recording sound with phones and opted to spend most of the small budget they had on location permits and good audio hardware; knowing full well that audiences will accept an aesthetic of questionable quality, but never something that is painful or difficult to listen to.
Yes I agree, it’s becoming somewhat of a cliché that audio is maybe the most important element of filmmaking. But it is true; at least if it isn’t good enough. Creating an interesting image is doable almost everywhere if that your main quest but shooting that image and capture acceptable audio is what often fails. You can always bring a small camera with you and shoot guerilla style, you can do it in the subways, almost everywhere, and no one will really think of what you are doing if you are smart and swift. But if you bring a sound guy with a boom and have your actors deliver dialog etc than the problems begins. Sound is a little bit like stunts or fx etc, you need to compromise to get it acceptable. Or at least mention adr, which is a possibility but hard to master, really hard. The title is: “How To Shoot A Film At 3 Different Budget Levels” and the description “having a larger budget means having more control over creating images “ and “I'll analyse 3 films with 3 vastly different budgets to show some techniques you can use” etc Leaving out the sound part in this video, which is often the most troublesome, was a little bit like that beginner mistake neglecting sound when shooting your first films. Next to no one will praise you for your excellent sound, but they will praise you for your wonderful cinematography. On the other hand, “bad” cinematography might be an artistic choice. But when the sound is bad, the whole film is bad. So yes I agree, sound is to important to be left out.
Great video, i whould like to make two comments to widen the understanding about budget in films. 1) in categorizing film budgets i whould add microbudget between no-budget and indie, and it might be useful to say there is a high budget above the industry standard ranges. ill say Blue Jay is probably a microbudget film and the lighthouse a indie one. 2) Control over the look of the film is what money gets you in the cinematography aspect. I would say the video does not talk about the impact of the budget on other aspects. It influences everything from casting to post production but the main thing i whould add (given that the video is centered on the look of the film) is the control it gives in the art department. In a no-budget film the art department can add some props and decoration elements, but the locations are mostly what you get. In a microbudget film is almost the same, the difference being the ability to make some low cost modifications. In the indie budget or higher is when money kicks in big. Cinematography may impact the look of a scenario, but the art department makes or modifies the scenario itself.
@Charlie Vetsworth It was a $4 million budget lol. I feel like a lot of the films I thought were "indie" or "low-budget" actually were the complete opposite. So it's a little disappointing to realize how much money it really takes to make a movie, microbudget or further.
Charlie Vetsworth money doesn't make a movie indie or not. It is a damn fact that The Lighthouse is an indie film. (Also most of the budget went to Pattinson and Dafoe...)
These have been some of the best filmmaking/cinematography videos I've watched, out of hundreds and hundreds of hours. Thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge and putting these together! You're answering a lot of questions I have and I really appreciate your in-depth approach to all these. Making me want to pick up my camera more and more!
SUPPORT THE CHANNEL ON PATREON: www.patreon.com/indepthcine Some people have been asking me to make more videos breaking down low budget cinematography, so I made this, comparing 3 different films shot at 3 vastly different budgets. If you enjoy videos featuring lower budget filmmaking, or have any other types of videos you’d like to see I’d be happy to hear. Thanks!
This video utterly entranced me!!! Sometimes I’m too scared to pursue projects because of my lack of any budget, but from this video it’s occurred to me that i just need to approach my camera work the right way, and i can still be satisfied with the result. Cheers!
hi, just got here. uhhhh why isn't this channel past 1mil yet?? this is the first I've seen and it's beautiful, it made me appreciate film in a way i never have before... this guy is going to get real big real soon, mark my words. keep up the great stuff!
Dude, i cant tell u how much you've inspired me to press forward with my vision for my first film, which i will shoot in B&W, not for style but because of the story. Truly appreciate your work. thanks
No Budget stills looks good enough to folks. With a budget/funding just means you have more access to equipment and necessities needed to work with. Also, people would like to be paid for their time so that's a benefit to them. All in all, you hit the nail on the coffin at the end; *"Find others that share the same passion as you do for filming"* 👍🏽
We made our Feature Film "Northwood Pie" for just 10k and it is currently out in 64 countries on Amazon Prime Video, Tubi, google play and more. Nice video, good work!
A good cinematographer and director can get out the maximum of each budget situation. Just think of the Indian film classic Pather Panchali by Satyajit Ray, shot by DOP Subrata Mitra with a broken film camera, yet producing gorgeous, emotionally moving images of faces and nature. Both artists went on to become some of the most respected of their generation worldwide.
Blue Jay's use of black and white also thematically fits with the movie's story. The characters are reflecting on memories of the past from when they used to be together.
"Time is money... but money is also time." If you have enough of a budget, that gives you more than enough time and breathing space to do what you want.
I'm as far from cinematography as I can be but I'm absolutely enamored with the detail and clever tricks filmmakers use to change the viewers perception. 250k subs by end of the year is a piece of cake for this channel, top tier content delivery 👌
Ill always remember Lighthouse as this era film which most people hate but i completely love because of the work done on it and the outstanding way it look.
Excuse me? Who the fuck hated The Lighthouse??? 60% of IMDb ratings are 8 or higher.. on Letterboxd over 75% of the votes have either a 4, 4.5 or 5 rating, it's literally one of the highest rated movies on the website ever... It has a 83/100 on metacritic... And it has 90% on Rotten Tomatoes. Please don't spread fake news..
Great video. Only one thing I noticed is it's not ASA anymore it's called ISO. ASA stood for American Standards Association, which has been adopted by the International Organization for Standardization, in short ISO, since 1974.
Great video. Brilliantly demonstrates how much more important skill is than equipment. Sure equipment will give a different look and make things more controllable. But what equipment has no control over is the quality of the film itself.
Very impressive. I am such a film buff, and this is truly inspiring to make my own music videos. So beautiful, and love the French Wave, so B&W a go for me.
Great video, thank you! It would be very interesting if you make a video about why the movie industry doesn't produce anymore B&W films! It's really a shame not to have more B&W films. When they do it right, they have magical atmosphere and way better artistic look than the coloured films! Lighthouse has a great optical texture, I hope more productions in the future will adopt these monochromatic approach.
Thanks for the comment, something to consider for a future video. Cold War is another recent film that uses B&W beautifully. I definitely have a soft spot for black and white films.
i think one of the biggest components of making a film with little to know budget is story. if you have a great story then the visuals, acting, or quality don’t matter as much. and you can have full control of your story at any level of budget
I think your my favourite filmmaking channel. I want to become a filmmaker and these vids are really helpful and inspiring. Keep up the great work mate.
The biggest problem when you're beginning is to find friends lol. Seriously, I've been trying since I was a kid and no one ever wanted to help me with this kind of stuff. But you can never give up. I try to write scripts that only include one character (played by me) and my dogs. Doing 3D animations is also a good way to test different angles and movements with almost limitless potential (as long as you have time).
Really good video. I wouldn't mind seeing an even more in depth discussion of how to make a no/low budget film imitate the larger budget films with black and white. I wonder how hard it would be to simulate black and white films from the 30's and 40's? It Happened One Night or The Maltese Falcon for example.
I'm not qualified to help you but I can help you with 2 words : contrast and multiple lightnings. The light in old black and white movie was very worked out and contrasted, but it was mainly due to a technical limitation. The camera film wasn't very sensitive to light, it was necessary to put much artificial lightning to see anything.
Hi. 🙂 Some people are still willing to work for the experience, as it will help them to grow. Some people might ask you for a demo reel or a few of their scenes to keep as payment (or you can offer them that when asking to work with them) that they can use for auditions. Also, some people are just kind and are willing to help you with your projects. As another commenter said, just provide a welcoming environment: kindness, refreshments, work with each others' schedules, etc. Please make sure that your cast, crew, whoever you work with, are all aware of how serious you are about your work: Work with people who will take the job seriously. Work with people who will respect your craft and your time. Otherwise, prepare for possible unnecessary stress. If you have not already done so, I kindly suggest that you research making contracts and the importance of them, and kindly ask them to be signed, for the safety of your work. Humbly, I can only speak from the experience I have with indie music videos and short films, and also from having worked as a portrait photographer. (If anyone else can help out with advice, please do! 😊) I hope this helps. 😊 May God bless you. 🙏🏼
I just finished watching Relics last night. The images are so good. If you didn’t mention it was shot on 550d, I won’t think of this camera. It looks incredibly close to those films in black and white. Really want to know how you shoot it! Do a video about how to shoot black and white, plz!
Please keep it that way and your chanel will grow! And if i may a little "correction". Mid to late 19th century emulsions were only sensitive to blue (and UV) and called "color blind" emulsions. Late 19th- early to mid 20th century emulsions that were also sensitive to green and maybe little to yellow are the orthochromatics. Keep it up! PS: i would love to see a video about the great and sadly today forgotten Nicholas Musuraca :)
I've been following the development of Unreal Engine (and similar/related technology) and I'm convinced this decade will see nothing short of a revolution in low/no-budget movies. Although what you mainly see today is its use to forge action/fantasy films, in principle it can be used to any genre. And the number of technical limitations it bypasses for drama makes me wonder what a creative young director can craft with some actors and a green screen, basically. Great times to be alive!
I've seen some hi school/jr college students making movies like this at our state fair and at a Oregon beach side and was asked not to notice the action and be background ir given a scene. I hope they did well with their movie.....
You forgot to mention sound. No budget films often have bad location sound, and no money / tools to fix it later. Blocking, framing and location scouting are important for sound, too. Many camera shots sound quite bad, if you don't have budget or proper planning for sound. On a documentary, this is of course different to a certain extent, as people expect a more rough and spontaneous 'reality' feeling of the film, but the basic rules still apply. Otherwise a good video!
no budget tip is basically: have friends who share the same amount of passion and love for filmmaking or art in general.
Yeah imagine having that
i don't have that
You really don't need that. Rima Das made a feature film that went to Netflix and won the National Award (best award in India) all with one cheap Canon camera and her local cousin helping out, all the actors were relatives from her village.
@@LordJagd w-wait what? how
@@boteng8213 From her interviews, it sounds like perseverance and practice. And working within one's restraints, but extremely creatively (so not a film of young people talking in apartments)
1. You and your friend, a phone or two;
2. paid crew, hired gears and place;
3. go crash a plane.
Well not from the air don't be so dramatic
But how big of a plane?
@@yash124 😂😂😂😂
@@iPodiMaster that part is a little bit dramatic:)
Yash lalwani nah we gonna drop a huge plane
Isn't that true about life in general... money buys you control over choices. Good video!
yep, that's why it isn't dumb to just pursue money. It allows room for things that you actually want to do later in life.
@@pzz6367 Wrong. When you pursue things earlier in life- where you learn basic and then advanced skills needed for your industry- you will be in a better position to know where to save money- so you never need so much to waste triple on stupid mistakes.
Film is very skill specific. Nobody ever directed a successful movie- who just had money.
If you do not believe me, you can take a lesson from Anapurna Films. This the company of "the" Larry Elison's daughter. He gave her a few hundred million to start with and has now cut the drain, because the company was bleeding money since it's inception.
@@JJDvorshak Never said you don't need an education. You can still study film while having money.
Especially with film, many who go into the industry don't reach where they want to be. Only small few portion of those who study film end up being able have creative freedom (making their own movies). People who don't have money, don't have time. Having money gives you time and security. It lets you do what you want.
@@pzz6367 Yeah, sure. But in life there are no guarantees. And you don't get your time back.
So choose wisely.
Nobody will guarantee you riches. Ever. So you at least try not to hate your journey.
Listen, I'm a learner. My main want is to be a film director in Hollywood.
I have plans to make a fully birthed TH-cam channel as my plan b- or a side gig.
And I have another research going for an unrelated business- which could be lucrative, but take valuable time away, so choosing it is hard.
Then there is just a faint idea of learning C# up to an acceptable level to maybe make a game with 5 other people (2 devs + producers, 3 artists, 1 marketing consultant)- working for equal percentages- and try to make some seed capital for a movie.
I'm in my late 20s and I want to make it too. Fact remains, that you need total dedication and time for opportunities.
So 10 years working on something for hoping to be rich.
Or 10 years simply working in the industry you need to be in- and having the same odds.
It's an illusion you can have it both ways- usually.
So choose wisely.
Right now, I'm just looking for any kind of work. It is not appreciated enough in this world today to simply start from root level and being somebody's tea boy.
@@JJDvorshak Good luck, but do not underestimate how hard making games is. It is a serious commitment.
It's probably worth mentioning that while The Lighthouse did have a significantly bigger budget than the other two, $4 million is still considered an indie movie and a relatively low budget considering they shot on film and hired Willem Dafoe and Robert Pattinson.
As someone who wants to direct movies, This was very helpful. I still have a lot to learn when it comes to making films but with more help like this, I'm sure to get there!!!
if you want industry success, you either have to be pretty unique, like quention or spielberg, or get a degree to get associate work
Good luck man I hope you do it
Just get a camera, any camera, and go for it!
And now everyone is making films for money
Better be artistic about it to be recognized
Above than clout chasers
You'll learn so so so much more when you start doing it. Try things see what works what doesn't, this way or that way etc. Ideas will start rushing through your mind. Ask around, get contacts, put a word out, ask people to put a word out, and soon you'll find people as passionate as you. And most importantly HAVE FUN!! You need very little budget to make something great. Take one thing at a time and don't worry about every single thing that's going right or terribly wrong. Focus on your work. All you got to do is make the picture as you see it in your mind.
Once I thought that "Frances Ha" by Noah Baumbach was a semi-budget film, but then I found out it was a $3mil film ahahah. It was shot on canon5dMk2 though
Yeah, sometimes it's just a matter of how you want to distribute the budget. Some films place more importance on paying for cast/locations and less importance on technical gear. Some prioritise getting a specific visual aesthetic for the film which requires more money. Frances Ha just goes to show how much you can achieve with minimal camera gear.
5d2 was popular for a while even on commercial sets, until producers found 5d2 takes a lot of time to light, bounce and cut.
Frances ha is amazing
As you can imagine, the choice of camera wasn't a financial constraint for Frances Ha. In the Criterion extras I believe there's an interview where Baumbach says he just wanted to shoot on DSLRs.
@@askl23 You are correct. They tested different camera's and liked the look of the 5d the best. They liked how it was somewhat grainy, similar to shooting on film but not.
I can’t be the only one confused on how he got Sarah Paulson an actress with an estimated 10 millions net worth to be in an indie budget movie like that’s amazing !!!
A lot of big actors join indie projects to reinvent themselves or explore how great their skills are. Now that producers see how well they can perform, they can get on some "artsy" high budget film
Well, Mark Duplass wrote it so that helps. The director Alex Lehmann was a camera operator on The League, where he became friends with Mark. So either Mark knew Sarah already or just the fact that he was involved was enough for Sarah to spend a week doing the movie.
Many actors only do the big budget stuff to make enough money to do the creatively engaging projects that don't pay much.
A lot of times is through common friends, etc. De Niro and Bruce Willis had made movies for free, just because they wanted to work with a specific director
@@LuisSierra42 In this instance Mark Duplass is friends with Sarah Paulson's best friend Amanda Peet. I'd recommend watching the q&a they did with SAG-AFTRA. It goes a little more into the decisions made about making and filming Bluejay
th-cam.com/video/Kimc-Habee0/w-d-xo.html
I loved this! Comparing the cinematography in 3 films that have something in common but with different budgets should be a new series on your channel.
The Indie movie looks better than most of the blockbusters I’ve seen in the last 3 years.
Cinematography is a progressively more forgotten art.
@@DonVigaDeFierro I mean... a $20,000 camera doesn't hurt!
it’s so amazing! i’m a fan of sarah paulson (the woman in the movie), which made me want to watch this indie film called Blue Jay, and oh was i not disappointed. the two actors in that movie really made it feel like a real life conversation, not to mention that most of that movie was improvised! it’s very raw and very emotional, i recommend watching it. it’s on netflix :)
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Actually, most of the budget in The Lighthouse goes to the mermaid. It ain't cheap to rent one u kno.
😂😂😂😂 LOL
The lighthouse is a modern cinema masterpiece.
B007 I agree it’s like the shining of are era
Brazilian Goddess obviously know nothing of film🤦♂️
Brazilian Goddess acting, black n white and obviously the story of the film. It’s obvious when you wrote “over acted”
Brazilian Goddess you obviously don’t know the meaning of the film🤦♂️
Brazilian Goddess your basically sitting there calling the film generic when it’s not. There so to the story other than 2 drunk sailors and it’s obvious you have no knowledge on film. This film is a modern day The Shining but you’re to blind to actually look into the film
Sarah Paulson looks amazing in the indie cinematography
She is.
I really appreciate that you're sharing your experience in no budget, what i think is one of the most difficult parts of starting in cinematography. Really informative video. A video on soft lighting techniques like cove or book lighting will be awesome.
Your indie film is best example of why lenses is more important than the camera resolution. It looks super good!
Exactly so true especially prime lenses! What lens is your favourite?
Yes. Resolution of getting out of hand in my opinion lol
The Lighthouse is one of my fave films of all time
Good time is a must then
Why is no one talking about the beautiful music adding intimacy into every action shown in the video?
Fr he has such a good taste in picking music for the video.
Yes! It totally captivated me
There is just something about the right music just creating so many emotions in a scene. I LOVE films that do this right
I love the way you think!!!
My new favorite cinema channel 🎥❄️
Same
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So great to see more South Africans making great stuff on this platform. As a cine educator, the throughline here that I think requires discussion is the power of audio. Aesthetically budget buys control, but the barrier to entry for a lot of productions is the difficulty of getting great sound, without which viewers normally won't accept a product. My favourite example is the 2015 film Tangerine. The movie was shot on iPhones and the audience quickly accepted the diegesis of that aesthetic. However, they would never risk recording sound with phones and opted to spend most of the small budget they had on location permits and good audio hardware; knowing full well that audiences will accept an aesthetic of questionable quality, but never something that is painful or difficult to listen to.
Yes I agree, it’s becoming somewhat of a cliché that audio is maybe the most important element of filmmaking. But it is true; at least if it isn’t good enough. Creating an interesting image is doable almost everywhere if that your main quest but shooting that image and capture acceptable audio is what often fails. You can always bring a small camera with you and shoot guerilla style, you can do it in the subways, almost everywhere, and no one will really think of what you are doing if you are smart and swift. But if you bring a sound guy with a boom and have your actors deliver dialog etc than the problems begins. Sound is a little bit like stunts or fx etc, you need to compromise to get it acceptable. Or at least mention adr, which is a possibility but hard to master, really hard.
The title is: “How To Shoot A Film At 3 Different Budget Levels” and the description “having a larger budget means having more control over creating images “ and “I'll analyse 3 films with 3 vastly different budgets to show some techniques you can use” etc
Leaving out the sound part in this video, which is often the most troublesome, was a little bit like that beginner mistake neglecting sound when shooting your first films. Next to no one will praise you for your excellent sound, but they will praise you for your wonderful cinematography. On the other hand, “bad” cinematography might be an artistic choice. But when the sound is bad, the whole film is bad.
So yes I agree, sound is to important to be left out.
Black and white done right not only looks good, but also helps swing the viewer’s mood. It’d be nice if more films were done in b&w these days.
Great video, i whould like to make two comments to widen the understanding about budget in films.
1) in categorizing film budgets i whould add microbudget between no-budget and indie, and it might be useful to say there is a high budget above the industry standard ranges. ill say Blue Jay is probably a microbudget film and the lighthouse a indie one.
2) Control over the look of the film is what money gets you in the cinematography aspect. I would say the video does not talk about the impact of the budget on other aspects. It influences everything from casting to post production but the main thing i whould add (given that the video is centered on the look of the film) is the control it gives in the art department. In a no-budget film the art department can add some props and decoration elements, but the locations are mostly what you get. In a microbudget film is almost the same, the difference being the ability to make some low cost modifications. In the indie budget or higher is when money kicks in big. Cinematography may impact the look of a scenario, but the art department makes or modifies the scenario itself.
@Charlie Vetsworth It was a $4 million budget lol. I feel like a lot of the films I thought were "indie" or "low-budget" actually were the complete opposite. So it's a little disappointing to realize how much money it really takes to make a movie, microbudget or further.
Charlie Vetsworth it’s under 10 million
Charlie Vetsworth money doesn't make a movie indie or not. It is a damn fact that The Lighthouse is an indie film.
(Also most of the budget went to Pattinson and Dafoe...)
Love it. Before I even watch...from the thumbnail, the difference is learn light ratios
These have been some of the best filmmaking/cinematography videos I've watched, out of hundreds and hundreds of hours. Thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge and putting these together! You're answering a lot of questions I have and I really appreciate your in-depth approach to all these. Making me want to pick up my camera more and more!
Glad to hear you're getting something out of these videos! Thanks for watching.
The no budget film looks so good. I’ve seen feature films that look worse. Props of to you. Where can I watch it?
I really want to watch it too
Watch Relics here
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@@swashy8933 It's a film called Relics
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Some people have been asking me to make more videos breaking down low budget cinematography, so I made this, comparing 3 different films shot at 3 vastly different budgets. If you enjoy videos featuring lower budget filmmaking, or have any other types of videos you’d like to see I’d be happy to hear.
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Amazing video for grow and get started !
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Hello! I like very much your videos. Please make a video about light equipament!
I didn't even watch the video yet... I could see the difference in between these three categories in sheer lens choice and lighting in the thumbnail!!
Indie Film: play house with beautiful actresses.
Damn your no budget film looks like a high budget movie. Please teach us how to make such movie with very such entry camera.
@@Dayn-El light it
@@Dayn-El lightning, framing and blocking
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This video utterly entranced me!!! Sometimes I’m too scared to pursue projects because of my lack of any budget, but from this video it’s occurred to me that i just need to approach my camera work the right way, and i can still be satisfied with the result. Cheers!
There is a big range in budgets though between "Indie" and "Industry", as each term is themselves quite broad.
Man the score choice is always excellent in your videos. It’s thematically consistent yet always matches every video perfectly.
hi, just got here. uhhhh why isn't this channel past 1mil yet?? this is the first I've seen and it's beautiful, it made me appreciate film in a way i never have before... this guy is going to get real big real soon, mark my words. keep up the great stuff!
Dude, i cant tell u how much you've inspired me to press forward with my vision for my first film, which i will shoot in B&W, not for style but because of the story. Truly appreciate your work. thanks
This video needs to be see by anyone who loves anything about film.
No Budget stills looks good enough to folks. With a budget/funding just means you have more access to equipment and necessities needed to work with. Also, people would like to be paid for their time so that's a benefit to them. All in all, you hit the nail on the coffin at the end;
*"Find others that share the same passion as you do for filming"* 👍🏽
Hey I recognize that guy from blue jay, he was in creep! A real good actor, fittingly unsettling in there.
We made our Feature Film "Northwood Pie" for just 10k and it is currently out in 64 countries on Amazon Prime Video, Tubi, google play and more. Nice video, good work!
The higher the budget, the less-shaky the camera.
Conclusion: the price of a camera isn't important; spend some money on a tripod!
That’s is very true !
What tripod would you recommend?
@@antiherojourney6344 the brand monfrotto are good ! Try them out
A good cinematographer and director can get out the maximum of each budget situation. Just think of the Indian film classic Pather Panchali by Satyajit Ray, shot by DOP Subrata Mitra with a broken film camera, yet producing gorgeous, emotionally moving images of faces and nature. Both artists went on to become some of the most respected of their generation worldwide.
You've got to drop your Spotify or Apple music playlist fam.
Love the music you pick!
The shot of the underwater diver in the tank was amazing.
Blue Jay's use of black and white also thematically fits with the movie's story. The characters are reflecting on memories of the past from when they used to be together.
The scenes you showed from your low budget film are really good! Very intimate feel to it
"Time is money... but money is also time."
If you have enough of a budget, that gives you more than enough time and breathing space to do what you want.
I'm as far from cinematography as I can be but I'm absolutely enamored with the detail and clever tricks filmmakers use to change the viewers perception.
250k subs by end of the year is a piece of cake for this channel, top tier content delivery 👌
Working with no or little budget is actually kinda fun though, you really have to use your creativity to achieve certain scenes
bruh i love the lighthouse
Ill always remember Lighthouse as this era film which most people hate but i completely love because of the work done on it and the outstanding way it look.
Excuse me? Who the fuck hated The Lighthouse???
60% of IMDb ratings are 8 or higher..
on Letterboxd over 75% of the votes have either a 4, 4.5 or 5 rating, it's literally one of the highest rated movies on the website ever...
It has a 83/100 on metacritic...
And it has 90% on Rotten Tomatoes.
Please don't spread fake news..
These video essays are amazing. They inspired me to get back to writing and finish my first script. Thank you
Great video. Only one thing I noticed is it's not ASA anymore it's called ISO. ASA stood for American Standards Association, which has been adopted by the International Organization for Standardization, in short ISO, since 1974.
Ha! Interesting nerd fact about the orthochromatic film. Now that special look in early film photos really make sense. Thanks for the video!
Great video. Brilliantly demonstrates how much more important skill is than equipment. Sure equipment will give a different look and make things more controllable. But what equipment has no control over is the quality of the film itself.
Thankful for YT's algorithm for suggesting this video ... Keep up your great work. Your channel will eventually blow up!
Very impressive. I am such a film buff, and this is truly inspiring to make my own music videos. So beautiful, and love the French Wave, so B&W a go for me.
This was great, mate. Don't understand how you don't have more likes. Awesome channel
nicely described by a 3-way comparison analysis yet keeping each type independent of one another
Indie budget: Sarah Paulson as lead actress. Sound about right...
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I’m only 3 minutes in and already this is a fantastic video... thank you for making and teaching what you’ve learnt.
Great video, thank you!
It would be very interesting if you make a video about why the movie industry doesn't produce anymore B&W films!
It's really a shame not to have more B&W films.
When they do it right, they have magical atmosphere and way better artistic look than the coloured films!
Lighthouse has a great optical texture, I hope more productions in the future will adopt these monochromatic approach.
Thanks for the comment, something to consider for a future video. Cold War is another recent film that uses B&W beautifully. I definitely have a soft spot for black and white films.
This is how filmaking must be teached!!!!! thanks!!!! I love it!!!!
i think one of the biggest components of making a film with little to know budget is story. if you have a great story then the visuals, acting, or quality don’t matter as much. and you can have full control of your story at any level of budget
as a fellow person interested in cinematography THANK YOU
This is the video I needed 5 years ago
The DOP of the no budget film is a very very talented and knowledgeable filmmaker.
I think your my favourite filmmaking channel. I want to become a filmmaker and these vids are really helpful and inspiring. Keep up the great work mate.
The biggest problem when you're beginning is to find friends lol. Seriously, I've been trying since I was a kid and no one ever wanted to help me with this kind of stuff. But you can never give up. I try to write scripts that only include one character (played by me) and my dogs. Doing 3D animations is also a good way to test different angles and movements with almost limitless potential (as long as you have time).
Really good video. I wouldn't mind seeing an even more in depth discussion of how to make a no/low budget film imitate the larger budget films with black and white. I wonder how hard it would be to simulate black and white films from the 30's and 40's? It Happened One Night or The Maltese Falcon for example.
I'm not qualified to help you but I can help you with 2 words : contrast and multiple lightnings.
The light in old black and white movie was very worked out and contrasted, but it was mainly due to a technical limitation.
The camera film wasn't very sensitive to light, it was necessary to put much artificial lightning to see anything.
Suuuuper impressed that you shot that on a 550d.
lighthouse deserves multiple rewatches.
Great video, and I have to say that your film is incredibly good-looking! Very inspiring to see that not everything depends on budget.
I was so curious.
How would you convinced people on going to make a feature without budget?
I'd like to believe its due to a compelling concept and welcoming environment? But that's just a random guess
Hi. 🙂 Some people are still willing to work for the experience, as it will help them to grow. Some people might ask you for a demo reel or a few of their scenes to keep as payment (or you can offer them that when asking to work with them) that they can use for auditions. Also, some people are just kind and are willing to help you with your projects. As another commenter said, just provide a welcoming environment: kindness, refreshments, work with each others' schedules, etc.
Please make sure that your cast, crew, whoever you work with, are all aware of how serious you are about your work: Work with people who will take the job seriously. Work with people who will respect your craft and your time. Otherwise, prepare for possible unnecessary stress.
If you have not already done so, I kindly suggest that you research making contracts and the importance of them, and kindly ask them to be signed, for the safety of your work.
Humbly, I can only speak from the experience I have with indie music videos and short films, and also from having worked as a portrait photographer. (If anyone else can help out with advice, please do! 😊) I hope this helps. 😊 May God bless you. 🙏🏼
@@Boldness-and-Virtue Useful explanation. Thank you.
It depends on the environment you’re in. I have many theatre friends and we decided to make something like a film.
@@AvadhutNigudkar You are so very welcome! I'm so glad that helped! 😊 May God bless you! 🙏🏼
Audio of this video is on point! So satisfying..
Holy crap, I'm glad I found this channel. It's soooo damn amazing, thank you!!! And this video is perfect btw.
Great video! I am still amazed in how they did the lighthouse.
1:44 really nice shot bro
What a beautifully crafted video. Thank you very much.
Salute to us young filmmakers in here! Respect making this content brother. 🎬
Howzit Boet? Nice to hear a familiar accent and fantastic vid. So glad I stumbled onto this by accident
Howzit! I'm a fan of watches and have checked out your videos before (noticed the accent too), they're well put together!
"no resources"
*has a camera*
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@Baclor Open Camera is a good application if you have Android.
Thank you for the massive amount of useful information you managed to pack into less than 9 minutes !
I had somewhat understanding of this, but this video really explains it well. Very helpful, thanks.
TH-cam recommended. Watched. Great video. Subscribed.
Great video essay! Love this. Greetings from Indonesia. South East Asia. Keep up the good work!
I just finished watching Relics last night. The images are so good. If you didn’t mention it was shot on 550d, I won’t think of this camera. It looks incredibly close to those films in black and white. Really want to know how you shoot it! Do a video about how to shoot black and white, plz!
I mean it looks really close to those films shot on black and white film stocks!
I know nothing about cinematography, but this video is very entertaining
I hear a South African accent! yay for the SA industry. Love this short video.
And this is how I learned about Geographer. Sweet.
Please keep it that way and your chanel will grow!
And if i may a little "correction". Mid to late 19th century emulsions were only sensitive to blue (and UV) and called "color blind" emulsions. Late 19th- early to mid 20th century emulsions that were also sensitive to green and maybe little to yellow are the orthochromatics.
Keep it up!
PS: i would love to see a video about the great and sadly today forgotten Nicholas Musuraca :)
Thanks for the info!
I've been following the development of Unreal Engine (and similar/related technology) and I'm convinced this decade will see nothing short of a revolution in low/no-budget movies. Although what you mainly see today is its use to forge action/fantasy films, in principle it can be used to any genre. And the number of technical limitations it bypasses for drama makes me wonder what a creative young director can craft with some actors and a green screen, basically. Great times to be alive!
I've seen some hi school/jr college students making movies like this at our state fair and at a Oregon beach side and was asked not to notice the action and be background ir given a scene. I hope they did well with their movie.....
I reckognize the male lead in the indie budget film from Creep & Creep 2. He is a great actor.
Mark Duplas
Well done!
This is brilliant... Thanks for your shared analysis...
Wow, this is a video we were all wating for.
Your indie example was using Canon ME20F-SH, which is a $20,000 camera body. Most indies are shot with much cheaper cameras.
Netflix has the money. Also cameras get rented for movies... they don't buy them.
Your voice is so soothing!
Ah, I recognize the accent. Inspiring to see someone who is into film in my home country, I aspire to make it big there one day.
What country?
@@EriniusT I'm going to go out on a limb and say South Africa.
@@EriniusT The guy who answered was correct!
You forgot to mention sound. No budget films often have bad location sound, and no money / tools to fix it later. Blocking, framing and location scouting are important for sound, too. Many camera shots sound quite bad, if you don't have budget or proper planning for sound. On a documentary, this is of course different to a certain extent, as people expect a more rough and spontaneous 'reality' feeling of the film, but the basic rules still apply. Otherwise a good video!
Amazing video! Great choice of music too.
Perfectly put together.
Thanks!
Indie Movie on Canon ME20F-SH absolutely insane 😱
So many up and coming horror filmmakers need to watch this - how to make the most out of your no budget situation.