Your videos have been such a help to me. I am just starting to repair watches and it is sometimes nice to see that I am not the only one who says "crap!"
Great videos! I've learned a lot from them! I find it's a lot easier to reassemble full plate watches upside down. That is, put the gear train and lever into the top plate, place the pillar plate on top, then flip the whole thing and coax the pivots into place. If the lever insists on falling over, a little ball of rodico or blue-tac against the tail will hold it in place until the plates are together.
I have a Waltham 1883 model I bought at garage sale, I paid $10.00 for it. It appears all gummed up. I watched your 2 Waltham disassembly videos and this one. Great videos, I feel a little more confident now taking it apart. All The hands are missing, broke off but dial is excellent and 14K case. Thanks for the videos they helped a lot. I think I will take photos as I disassemble to help remember how things go back
You paid $10 for a 14K case! I want to go to that garage sale. Yes take photos or make a video. I used to put them back together as soon as I could after taking them apart before I could forget.
Great video, and your little exclamations just make it more entertaining. If I'm watching a long video and need to do something else, I just remember where I left off and come back to it.
You made a wonderful instructional video on this vintage Waltham Watch Co. key wound movement. Your shim was a very good idea. The only thing that comes to my mind is possibly the balance staff pivot could be slightly off true center which when your provided manufacturing your shim, this allowance of .001" shim provided the clearance for this possible issue on the balance staff. Excellent job! Great Video!
Great video. Don't break it up, it helps to watch the entire video just as you made it. Even when you forgot to oil something, I'm glad you didn't leave this out - I am thinking about tackling a pocket watch that stopped running and this video gives me confidence that I can do it. The only thing I would suggest is show how you store the screws/parts so that you know what goes where on reassembly.
Just gotta say how F'ing awesome this video is!!! I'm watching this and interested in time pieces because I was born and raised in "the watch city" Waltham, Ma!!! (26 years). Thanks again for such a great video because it's brought me down a wonderful rabbit hole
I enjoyed your video, I have the same type of pocket watch, swiss movement. I have been considering stripping and cleaning it my self, so found your instructions most useful. My watch occasionally seems to have the balance wheel slip out of the fork, it is an interesting exercise getting it back in.
I am not a watchmaker. I say so in the descriptiion. I have a video that is 2 hours long of me putting together a wrist watch. The reason it is two hours long is because I forgot how the watch went back together. Should I upload it or edit it down to one hour?
I don't know. The watch was running without a shim before I took it apart to clean it so it should run that way. Maybe something had to settle? The only thing I did that would affect the balance was that I pushed out the balance jewels to clean them. I do know that something is warped on the balance cock because if I loosen the screw that holds the balance cock the balance will stop cold. Usually the watch would keep on running. You never know what has been done to these old watches!
The material I used for the shim is copper that is around .0025 inch thick. I also use mylar and other plastics. I don't like to use steel because it might rust. I have even used aluminum foil but that is a pain to work with because it is thin, .0007 inch thick, and very soft. When a watch comes out of the factory no shims are needed. If you need a shim then that means some one repaired the watch.
Thanks for the comment. Did you watch the whole video in one viewing? I am wondering if I should break these up into smaller parts or leave them be because I have more this long and longer.
I always want to learn the correct way to do this but are you sure that I am not supposed to oil the pivots for the pallet lever? I looked at the Chicago watchmakers book and they say to oil the pivots. Could you tell me the source where you are getting this from.
"have a video that is 2 hours long of me putting together a wrist watch. The reason it is two hours long is because I forgot how the watch went back together. Should I upload it or edit it down to one hour?" Just the bits where things go wrong and you swear at the watch. Yeah ok so basically upload the whole 2 hours.
I really like your new parts container. I restore pocket watches and would like to have a few of these. I have been looking for a case just like this for months. Would you tell me what it is called and how to get it?
i just bought a refurbished 1889 1883 model waltham pocket watch. the dial on mine is different. it has arabic numbers above the roman and english ones? also it is made of coin silver. any thoughts about these old waltham watches? i just love mine.
Hi Great Vid,Do you do this for a living or Hobbie??? One point is Crap your fav word Ha Ha!!!!!!!! Im thinking of having a go at repairing a old broken pocket watch! I have watched a few of your videos there are good and clear to understand,keep up the great work Steve in the United Kingdom
When I first looked at this watch I noticed that the balance didn't move that freely and put a shim under the balance cock to give the balance staff some clearance. After I cleaned it and put it together I didn't need the shim. I guess the screw for the balance cock was not tight or something was not sitting correctly. With these old watches you don't know what they did to them to keep it running. Not every watchmaker would use genuine parts for repair. That is what I figured had happened.
I got sick a couple of weeks ago. Coughing my head off for a couple of days. Lost some weight. Not covid. I don't know what it was but I give a 8 out of 10 for sickness.
hi , don,t know how to private message you but i have a london fusee movement pocket watch, it runs but keeps stopping,, a jeweler has told me that it has broken jewels on the balance cock. is it an expensive repair, do you think you might be able to do it ?? thanks, Phil.
In my humble opinion, and having worked on a number of '57 watches, you might be best served by laying the gear train out on the back plate first, then placing the front plate on on top. This method eliminates issues with damaging the pallet fork. No offense, just helping out with another craftsman. www.lastwindup.com
No offense taken. You are not the first to suggest that method and will not be the last. I did try it that way once but found it difficult since I am comfortable doing it the other way but pratice makes perfect.
Your videos have been such a help to me. I am just starting to repair watches and it is sometimes nice to see that I am not the only one who says "crap!"
Great videos! I've learned a lot from them! I find it's a lot easier to reassemble full plate watches upside down. That is, put the gear train and lever into the top plate, place the pillar plate on top, then flip the whole thing and coax the pivots into place.
If the lever insists on falling over, a little ball of rodico or blue-tac against the tail will hold it in place until the plates are together.
The asides ('Crap!' 'Pain in the ass,' etc) are hilarious.
Thanks for this entertaining and instructive video.
I have a Waltham 1883 model I bought at garage sale, I paid $10.00 for it. It appears all gummed up. I watched your 2 Waltham disassembly videos and this one. Great videos, I feel a little more confident now taking it apart. All The hands are missing, broke off but dial is excellent and 14K case. Thanks for the videos they helped a lot. I think I will take photos as I disassemble to help remember how things go back
You paid $10 for a 14K case! I want to go to that garage sale. Yes take photos or make a video. I used to put them back together as soon as I could after taking them apart before I could forget.
Great video, and your little exclamations just make it more entertaining. If I'm watching a long video and need to do something else, I just remember where I left off and come back to it.
You made a wonderful instructional video on this vintage Waltham Watch Co. key wound movement. Your shim was a very good idea. The only thing that comes to my mind is possibly the balance staff pivot could be slightly off true center which when your provided manufacturing your shim, this allowance of .001" shim provided the clearance for this possible issue on the balance staff. Excellent job! Great Video!
Great video. Don't break it up, it helps to watch the entire video just as you made it. Even when you forgot to oil something, I'm glad you didn't leave this out - I am thinking about tackling a pocket watch that stopped running and this video gives me confidence that I can do it. The only thing I would suggest is show how you store the screws/parts so that you know what goes where on reassembly.
Thank you. I enjoy making some of these videos.
I love his honesty...."I'm not sure, can't remember....doesn't matter"...
Just gotta say how F'ing awesome this video is!!! I'm watching this and interested in time pieces because I was born and raised in "the watch city" Waltham, Ma!!! (26 years). Thanks again for such a great video because it's brought me down a wonderful rabbit hole
+Kevin Aiello Glad you enjoyed it. I have other videos like this. So if you have some time to kill maybe you should check them out.
I enjoyed your video, I have the same type of pocket watch, swiss movement. I have been considering stripping and cleaning it my self, so found your instructions most useful. My watch occasionally seems to have the balance wheel slip out of the fork, it is an interesting exercise getting it back in.
I am not a watchmaker. I say so in the descriptiion. I have a video that is 2 hours long of me putting together a wrist watch. The reason it is two hours long is because I forgot how the watch went back together. Should I upload it or edit it down to one hour?
As a newbie it would be a help to see your struggles. It's frustrating as a beginner to see everyone else seem to do this effortlessly.
@@patriciaclark9957 Lucky for you I don't like editing.
Always enjoy your videos, very engrossing
Fascinating, as always!
I don't know. The watch was running without a shim before I took it apart to clean it so it should run that way. Maybe something had to settle? The only thing I did that would affect the balance was that I pushed out the balance jewels to clean them. I do know that something is warped on the balance cock because if I loosen the screw that holds the balance cock the balance will stop cold. Usually the watch would keep on running. You never know what has been done to these old watches!
If you ever lose the dial pins try straightening staples then cut them into new pins.
Nate Blubaugh
I’ve never heard of this before... Thanks!
watched it all in one view, instead of movie :)
The material I used for the shim is copper that is around .0025 inch thick. I also use mylar and other plastics. I don't like to use steel because it might rust. I have even used aluminum foil but that is a pain to work with because it is thin, .0007 inch thick, and very soft. When a watch comes out of the factory no shims are needed. If you need a shim then that means some one repaired the watch.
Thanks for the comment. Did you watch the whole video in one viewing? I am wondering if I should break these up into smaller parts or leave them be because I have more this long and longer.
"How much time do I have"
From someone putting together a watch wanting to know how much time he has..I find that amusing.
Awesome as always. Thank you for the videos...
taking apart is easy. It's the putting back together part that is kinda very difficult.
another good video. thanks for sharing
I always want to learn the correct way to do this but are you sure that I am not supposed to oil the pivots for the pallet lever? I looked at the Chicago watchmakers book and they say to oil the pivots. Could you tell me the source where you are getting this from.
"have a video that is 2 hours long of me putting together a wrist watch. The reason it is two hours long is because I forgot how the watch went back together. Should I upload it or edit it down to one hour?"
Just the bits where things go wrong and you swear at the watch.
Yeah ok so basically upload the whole 2 hours.
I really like your new parts container. I restore pocket watches and would like to have a few of these. I have been looking for a case just like this for months. Would you tell me what it is called and how to get it?
No problem, I learned someting new.
cool vid maybe it was droped at one ttime but looks like ya got it workin
What is the material you used for that shim? I just got a 1873-ish Elgin that might benefit from that...
i just bought a refurbished 1889 1883 model waltham pocket watch. the dial on mine is different. it has arabic numbers above the roman and english ones? also it is made of coin silver. any thoughts about these old waltham watches? i just love mine.
nice videos....can you tell me what watch oil are you using and how many types? not cheap what i see online
+Edward smith I use Nye Lubricants Inc. clock and watch oil.
One video is ok. I just watched all of it in one go too.
Hi Great Vid,Do you do this for a living or Hobbie??? One point is Crap your fav word Ha Ha!!!!!!!!
Im thinking of having a go at repairing a old broken pocket watch!
I have watched a few of your videos there are good and clear to understand,keep up the great work Steve in the United Kingdom
Yes
Hey Bunnspecial, what do you mean you found out later you didn't need shim? I just bought one of these watches and I really like it.
When I first looked at this watch I noticed that the balance didn't move that freely and put a shim under the balance cock to give the balance staff some clearance. After I cleaned it and put it together I didn't need the shim. I guess the screw for the balance cock was not tight or something was not sitting correctly. With these old watches you don't know what they did to them to keep it running. Not every watchmaker would use genuine parts for repair. That is what I figured had happened.
DAVIDMC101
Luis E Figueroa Lugo I saw the other video and had sound.
DOES THE 1857 HAVE SOUND?
Please tell me!
Luis E Figueroa Lugo The other video I saw had your voice, I mean sound. Why?
Luis E Figueroa Lugo All of my videos have sound. The first few I did I may not have talked but you can hear the television in the background.
I miss your videos ... where are you?
I got sick a couple of weeks ago. Coughing my head off for a couple of days. Lost some weight. Not covid. I don't know what it was but I give a 8 out of 10 for sickness.
@@bunnspecial Sorry to hear that . glad all is well now!!
hi , don,t know how to private message you but i have a london fusee movement pocket watch, it runs but keeps stopping,, a jeweler has told me that it has broken jewels on the balance cock. is it an expensive repair, do you think you might be able to do it ??
thanks, Phil.
"Awe Cmon Cmon......pain in the ass" 5:10 Classic Bunnspecial
Home schooled.
In my humble opinion, and having worked on a number of '57 watches, you might be best served by laying the gear train out on the back plate first, then placing the front plate on on top. This method eliminates issues with damaging the pallet fork.
No offense, just helping out with another craftsman. www.lastwindup.com
No offense taken. You are not the first to suggest that method and will not be the last. I did try it that way once but found it difficult since I am comfortable doing it the other way but pratice makes perfect.
just found out i have a digital pocket watch... no more steampunk engineering fun for me i guess =(
You shouldn't touch the gilded surfaces w/ fingers! The surfaces of these movements are very sensitive to finger prints
32:08 i don't believe! : |
I did not learn a thing. off to waste another hour on this.
+Nantan Lupan As I write in the description "For entertainment only" I hope you were at least entertained.
+bunnspecial did not bother to read it haha. thanks! since watching a whole lot of these videos I feel like buying a pocket watch haha.