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DUSTIN!!!! That's the homie!!! He used to work at Moog Audio in Toronto and he taught me so much about many different production techniques with many different gear over the years. Great to see he's out here teaching the world on all things Roland - I got to see him last week where he demoed his 404 and give a brief history lesson on the SP line over the years. Roland did it right by getting him on board in my books!
Being shown that you can set a sample to one shot mode on the device itself alone made this video worth watching, but there are a ton of cool tips here. Definitely picking up some ways to push the SP into new territory.
It's nice to be able to do this with the SP. I learned this technique from a dub / reggae artist on youtube, but I'm more of a finger drumming boom bap kinda guy. Keep dishing out the secrets.
I'm still in the early days of learning to use my SP, but I'm definitely tucking this video away for future viewing and learning. Nice one! And yes, more teaching from Roland would be welcome!
Same situation for me and finally some more info on more -lets say ‘house’ oriented music rather than all those videos about the SP404mkII that cover boom bap or highly experimental lofi sounds
Puzzling that the 202 looper could autoloop and quantise a tin can 15 years ago but the 404mk2 can't. I'm certain the high level of returns of this unit are djs buying it and finding out they can't do that
Dustin works for Roland Canada. I saw him multiple times in the showroom, spoke to him. He's good and helps. What he shows could help for the people who want to do live without a laptop.
@@LiamKillen are you also in Ontario or just Dustin happened by accident to be in your country? The Roland Canada showroom is in Liberty Village in Toronto. Maybe you're in TO as well...
Such a stellar follow-up to your one-shot video of the SP404 - thank you for this! I've been using a similar workflow without the one-shot and this is a game changer. Feature request for the app: It would be great to be able to type in the bpm in the app; trying to get the slider just right by dragging it with a mouse gets old very quickly.
To be honest I never really understand what were / or was the point of one shots, but I totally get it now. Definitely a lot of live performance possibilities in them! Thanks for the Pro Tips!
I'm very excited and I haven't watched this yet. I've been getting back into techno and also trying to make the most of my MK2 until I can get a Push 3 or something else 🤙🏼
@@LiamKillenYou're right. I did! The only thing that keeps us from being able to execute this entirely on the SP is that we can't set fixed length to samples. Well, technically, you can, but it's a little more finnicky with it. Very cool stuff. I had been using one shot mode but the mute group and pad mutes was revelation.
This is awesome. I would only say it is disappointing to rely solely on one 2-bit display. The black plastic area below the display could have been a tempo and function indicator display. The black space above could have been a beat light green for play, red for record. Also the solid color knobs could have indicated intensity or level.
Wow .. spicy jam .. so tasty ... amazing " loop de loop " session .. thanks gentlemen for all the tips and insights that go into making delicious streams of sound!
Hey Roland - since you don’t take feature requests anymore and told me to make feature requests on social media here I go: MIDI CC editing on the TR8s and SP404mk2 so that we can use the 8s as a midi controller for the SP404mk2. Increases the value of both your machines without encroaching on any other device. You wouldn’t even need to enable this functionality on the machines themselves, just via the editor (like basic midi controllers). This update won’t take up any DSP or CPU headroom.
Nice tips. Thanks for sharing. Roland, if you're listening, please let us record fixed duration samples some day (ex: 1 bar, 2 bar, etc. as possible on the DT) Would make getting perfect loops into the SP a ton easier. :)
I think if the tempo is set correctly, and you have End Snap on, this will happen. But maybe it only snaps to the nearest beat after you press stop, so it might take some practise
holy shit!!!! i originally purchased the 404 to for its legendary fx for my house production. Going to bounce out some stems and have a go at it. Thank you for sharing this gem of a video!!!!
This seems like it could be a good idea for me as I literally always get stuck in the loop in my Daw. I have loads of nice main parts of tracks but hardly any arrangements. This look fun.
Liam !!! Please !!! We have to pass this feature request along to Roland !!! We need to be able to choose to resample both busses or just one … that way we can build tracks using resample method - drums on one bus - samples on the other and then we can mix them independent
I just ordered the 404 Mk2, thinking it could be a great techno machine… Thanks for confirming 😂 (The way the YT algorithm reads my mind is kind of scary though :) )
@@LiamKillen I intend to. It's going to be my "go everywhere with me" instrument this summer. That hopefully gives me enough time to learn how to use it :D This seems like a very deep rabbit hole... what have I done?! :)
Ugh... this video essentially just cemented the regret I was teetering with regarding purchasing an mpc over the 404. I suppose I could always resell and have spare change for a couple more pieces of gear. 😂
@LiamKillen it's the matter of workflow as well. With MPC, I'm locked in with their DAW and unless I have the Live or X I can't use ableton. This is the only flaw with the One+, otherwise its a cracking piece of gear. 🤙
The most tricky part here is to get the right bpm, so the loops start evenly at the beginning of the bar. Would be really hard to do with unprepared loops.
@@9NZ4 I mean a work around is to use the sequencer to get an actual feel of where the end of the bar is and if it’s really that hard you can resample put the pattern on a pad and then there it’s perfect loop
So glad seeing someone using it for techno instead of boom bap & hip hop (nothing wrong with those genres, it’s just you don’t see that much vids of techno on sp404mk2) I doubted buying one for a looong time but I think I’m gonna get my credit card out 😂
Interesting using the editor. Though its cool its kind of Maschine-esque. I did the same thing this week in Ableton but kept to the roots of the sampler by having its outgoing audio trigger the unit to sample. I have been doing this since the 808 EX days and I feel the incoming signal really gets the flavor of the unit through its input. The 404 definitely has a sound quality to it that is unique.
I've got the MPC One and just got the 404 in the other day! It's a very different vibe but it has the "fun" factor I feel the MPC kinda lacks! That being said the MPC very much has a huge daw in a box feel! It's a straightforward powerhouse that'll do just about everything you need. The MPC is a great sequencer but the 404 is way more fun to sample and modulate audio with imo! Honestly if you're really torn, I think I'd still choose to get the 404 and the One with an external 19V battery, about the price of a Live, especially if you buy used!
This is a great video! Really shows the power of the instrument. Only thing that I can’t find on the manual is can you send different things out of the left and right output channel? In a live setup it’s very useful to send just your kick out of left for side chaining, or drums out of one output and music out of another depending on what ur going for.
Hello!! Is it possible to route different audio for the main audio output and the headphone output? Many thanks for everything!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼 Traductor
Well that is REALLY useful. How many SP videos have I watched which weren't as structured or useful as this? Ive had this sampler for months and never worked out how to use dual bus effects or how to record additional steps on an existing pattern.
Hey Liam, I'm glad to see you're still using your SP! I know I'm a bit out of topic, but have you ever tried or do you know if it's possible to use one of the Digitakt's midi tracks to control the two FX BUSES of the SP? I always have spare midi tracks on the DT and it would be cool to be able to control two SP FXs at once on my live sets!
You can absolutely do this- here’s a related video. You’ll have to figure out your Digitakt midi CC settings though: th-cam.com/video/JJNiBV-Q3Tc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=lkylM-JfVZHV6ya0
great video man. I just bought my 404 at the beginning of January and it is also my first piece of music gear so it's been a challenge to get a smooth workflow. what software are y'all using on the laptop?
Well I’ve just watched a 10/10 black box demo / kind of like that new Korg kaos sampler but it’s very pricey/ now I’ve just bumped into this … I still don’t own a proper sampler and don’t use computer At All .. And now I’m none the wiser of what to get ,even tho it won’t be anytime soon , due to finances .. But I do get a lot from these vids ..
It's curious that you can do all this things on the SP while their top of the line products, the mc 707, still can't manage long samples due to the fact it can't stream samples from the SD card but needs to allocate into the ram 😢
What I would actually love is to have the effects being controlled by the pads. Let’s asume I want to activate the effect of beat repeat just for a moment with 1/8 note repeat and activate it just pressing a pad like performance mode. Could be great to have performance effects on pads. As knobs are ok but for certain effects pads could do a better job. Liam, are you thinking on using the 404 again?
That would be cool! You can outsource your FX to a midi controller- that’s about as far as it’s gone for now. Here’s a video about how to set that up incase you’re interested: th-cam.com/video/JJNiBV-Q3Tc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=v7zuJOwzLMzDFGnL
I wouldn't say it's easy to mix full tracks in comparison to something like a DAW - but you can get a basic mix down. In terms of beat syncing - check this video out: th-cam.com/video/8-8WNv3VrPQ/w-d-xo.html If you have any specific tech questions hit up my Discord :-) distrokid.com/vip/liamkillen
@@LiamKillen To clarify, can you audition sounds in your headphones in real time while you are playing a track off of the SP live on a PA and then introduce the sound to the track in real time? Because it appears that you cannot.
Franchement un grand merci, j'ai achete le sp404 mais la learning curve est atroce quand tu viens du novation circuit rhythm, c'est pas du tout intuitif. Comment tu geres de laisser Dustin faire le boulot et de reagir, en plus c'est lui qui te donnes les instruments. Life goals poto. Laches toi sur les tutos stp tes explications sont vraiment top tier in the game.
My last question!! For a live musician(I'm a keyboardist) what is your choice between ROLAND SP404 MK 2 or AKAI MPC 1 or AKAI MPC LIVE 2? Please tell me the reason! Thanks a lot!
I had an irrational desire for this machine, but all I saw and heard until now was some lofi blabla stuff, so it just didn't make sense. I guess now it does ;)
Can you record a live performance like this demo as individual per pad tracks as audio into Logic? Or do you just export the performance as a whole track? Sorry if this is a proper newb question but I’ve never had my hands on a 404 so have no idea but this demo looks like an ideal option for me to get all my many finished loops arranged into actual tracks.
Hope that makes sense. For example I can record my drums from tr8s as individual audio tracks per part, so kick, hat, ride, clap etc come out as individual audio tracks rather than having one drums track. Can the same be done from the 16 pads of 404 for a jam like this?
You have to export us as a track unfortunately. This is one department that I think is sort of lacking with the SP 404 mk2 - and maybe they’ll enhance it with an update.
@@LiamKillen ah that’s a shame. What’s the learning curve on this beast for someone who’s never owned a proper sampler? I use Logic mainly, and own a bit of Hardware (Tr8s, JU06a, TB3) so I’m not a complete newb, butI am where samplers & sampling is involved as I’ve never used a sampler like this. I’ve been eyeing either a 404mk2 or an MpcOne as I think a hands on sampler could be fun, but I’m indecisive as I’ve never played about with one. It’d be dope to get some arrangements going from my many loops. Did u already have knowledge of samplers when you got your first 404? How was it to learn, and would you suggest getting an older 404 SX or one of the other ones first to get used to the work flow? Cheers man ;)
@@h-dawg969its a strange and quirky beast. Just when you think you've got it, it won't do what you want. Saying that, it CAN do what YOU want. You could record a pattern (anything from 1 bar to 64 bars) with a kick, snare, hats for example. Than you can copy and paste that pattern, but with only the kick. Then you can resample that pattern to a pad, and export that to a DAW. It's not my cup of tea, but it's definitely doable.
This is the crippling issue in the Digitakt and even more so the octatrack. Sample length needs to be babysat on the sequencer. Adding tons of overhead. Letting the samples run to their conclusion and just repeat without re-triggering is huge.
It is a bitch. But also, when you learn all the secret button combos, you start to feel like a Kung Fu master, paralysing your opponent with a flick of the wrist
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First. Hehe.
Here's the kicker, pun intended.
Roland teaching us new ways to use their products? YES PLEASE. As an SP owner I’m thrilled. Thanks for the vid!
It's a pleasure! It was great having Dustin on
In the same boat with you bro!
DUSTIN!!!! That's the homie!!!
He used to work at Moog Audio in Toronto and he taught me so much about many different production techniques with many different gear over the years.
Great to see he's out here teaching the world on all things Roland - I got to see him last week where he demoed his 404 and give a brief history lesson on the SP line over the years.
Roland did it right by getting him on board in my books!
14:50 Liam's mind being blown by the possibilites of these pro tips being applied to his music making. Great video, amazing tips!
Dustin blows all of our minds!!
Hey this Roland dude is a very good teacher! I’m honestly impressed.
Yup- he’s a SP-404 mk2 wiz!
Being shown that you can set a sample to one shot mode on the device itself alone made this video worth watching, but there are a ton of cool tips here. Definitely picking up some ways to push the SP into new territory.
Yes! Love to hear this! And thx for watching
I knew HOW to enable one-shot mode, but not WHY. This video explains it beautifully! Please get this guy back on for more content!
Patiently saving and using the 404SX… the mkii looks like so much fun.
It’s like light years ahead of the sx ! SX is cool too though
Dustin is super awesome, his tutorial on TR6s was the most useful and informative for me. I’m glad to see this kind of interview/session.
Yeah he absolutely knows his way around Roland gear
The more I learn this machine, the more I love it
I feel the same
Got my SP a few days ago, now in the learning stage. Amazing video to watch, makes me love it even more.
Yeah it’s a powerhouse this thing
Best explanation of a practical way to set up this mode on the internet. Thank you!
Always appreciate you watching! :-)
amazing video, love this sort of thing. every time I think I'm done with the SP I find something new
Yyyyup
Very cool video! Thank you! Did'nt know about the "one shot" mode! This is definitely a gamechanger!
Glad that it was helpful!
i was looking for the latest update vids, and ended up on this (as a techno enthusiast). And subbed. Great content.
Thanks so much :-)
It's nice to be able to do this with the SP. I learned this technique from a dub / reggae artist on youtube, but I'm more of a finger drumming boom bap kinda guy. Keep dishing out the secrets.
Always
I'm still in the early days of learning to use my SP, but I'm definitely tucking this video away for future viewing and learning. Nice one! And yes, more teaching from Roland would be welcome!
Early SP days! So exciting!
Same situation for me and finally some more info on more -lets say ‘house’ oriented music rather than all those videos about the SP404mkII that cover boom bap or highly experimental lofi sounds
We need a looper and que points that can loop this would make this machine a beast.
Maybe Roland is reading!
Puzzling that the 202 looper could autoloop and quantise a tin can 15 years ago but the 404mk2 can't. I'm certain the high level of returns of this unit are djs buying it and finding out they can't do that
@@thomasamos4055but now you can 😄
Dustin works for Roland Canada. I saw him multiple times in the showroom, spoke to him. He's good and helps. What he shows could help for the people who want to do live without a laptop.
Absolutely!
@@LiamKillen are you also in Ontario or just Dustin happened by accident to be in your country? The Roland Canada showroom is in Liberty Village in Toronto. Maybe you're in TO as well...
Such a stellar follow-up to your one-shot video of the SP404 - thank you for this! I've been using a similar workflow without the one-shot and this is a game changer.
Feature request for the app: It would be great to be able to type in the bpm in the app; trying to get the slider just right by dragging it with a mouse gets old very quickly.
It’s my pleasure!
Maybe Roland is reading this in regards to your request!
To be honest I never really understand what were / or was the point of one shots, but I totally get it now. Definitely a lot of live performance possibilities in them! Thanks for the Pro Tips!
Absolutely! :-)
Flipping ace video. That was proper techno. A la Lost in the late 90s, shroom and vavavoom and a bit of ohhhdoom
Dustin does it for real!
I'm very excited and I haven't watched this yet. I've been getting back into techno and also trying to make the most of my MK2 until I can get a Push 3 or something else 🤙🏼
I think you’ll find it really interesting!!
@@LiamKillenYou're right. I did!
The only thing that keeps us from being able to execute this entirely on the SP is that we can't set fixed length to samples. Well, technically, you can, but it's a little more finnicky with it. Very cool stuff. I had been using one shot mode but the mute group and pad mutes was revelation.
This is SO cool, I'm going to put ALL of these in practice. Awesome video!!!
Thank you! 😊
This is awesome. I would only say it is disappointing to rely solely on one 2-bit display. The black plastic area below the display could have been a tempo and function indicator display. The black space above could have been a beat light green for play, red for record. Also the solid color knobs could have indicated intensity or level.
Yeah I get this take - I kind of like it though
This video is amazing. Thank you Liam and Dustin, much appreciated. Super inspiring
Thanks as always for watching ! :-)
What a video! Damn. Purchased a SP404mk2 ‘cause of your content - but you just keep on giving
Wow that’s awesome! Thank you for watching 😊
Awesome tips... life changing
Thank you for watching!
Wow .. spicy jam .. so tasty ... amazing " loop de loop " session .. thanks gentlemen for all the tips and insights that go into making delicious streams of sound!
It’s a singer!
Hey Roland - since you don’t take feature requests anymore and told me to make feature requests on social media here I go:
MIDI CC editing on the TR8s and SP404mk2 so that we can use the 8s as a midi controller for the SP404mk2. Increases the value of both your machines without encroaching on any other device. You wouldn’t even need to enable this functionality on the machines themselves, just via the editor (like basic midi controllers). This update won’t take up any DSP or CPU headroom.
👀 👀
Yes! Please! MIDI implementation is definitely a weak point on the 404.
Dammit Liam I didn’t even want an SP404mk2 before this 🤣😦
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Nice tips. Thanks for sharing. Roland, if you're listening, please let us record fixed duration samples some day (ex: 1 bar, 2 bar, etc. as possible on the DT) Would make getting perfect loops into the SP a ton easier. :)
Hopefully they’re reading!
I think if the tempo is set correctly, and you have End Snap on, this will happen. But maybe it only snaps to the nearest beat after you press stop, so it might take some practise
Thank you! One of the best and more useful videos on the SP!!! ❤❤❤❤❤
Wow thank you! Dustin is always super helpful
Just bought the SP-404 MK2 for Techno and harder styles :)
Hell yes - thanks for watching, hopefully this helped you out ! :-)
@@LiamKillen Sure it does!
Greetings from The Hague, Holland
Sick video, the sp is super versatile and it's cool to learn new ways to use it
Yes! Glad to help! 😊
holy shit!!!! i originally purchased the 404 to for its legendary fx for my house production. Going to bounce out some stems and have a go at it. Thank you for sharing this gem of a video!!!!
It’s my pleasure!!
Weapon of choice!
it's a good one! :-)
All we need is looper. Roland, please!
I hope they're reading! :-)
They just added a looper in their new 4.04 update!
@@Surfer8652 I’ve got a power!
Fantastic demo - some superb ideas to use and abuse. Thanks gentlemen.
Pleasure 😊
More content like this, please.
Already planning another 404 video
Love your guest videos!
Much more to come! :-)
What a brilliant video
Thanks for watching :-)
More videos like this one please! Awesome video with a fantastic machine 🤙
Yes! I've got more artists pairing videos in the works!
This seems like it could be a good idea for me as I literally always get stuck in the loop in my Daw. I have loads of nice main parts of tracks but hardly any arrangements.
This look fun.
Yeah this could be a great way to flesh out some new ideas!
Liam !!! Please !!! We have to pass this feature request along to Roland !!! We need to be able to choose to resample both busses or just one … that way we can build tracks using resample method - drums on one bus - samples on the other and then we can mix them independent
Maybe they’re reading!
I just ordered the 404 Mk2, thinking it could be a great techno machine… Thanks for confirming 😂 (The way the YT algorithm reads my mind is kind of scary though :) )
Enjoy it !!!
@@LiamKillen I intend to. It's going to be my "go everywhere with me" instrument this summer. That hopefully gives me enough time to learn how to use it :D
This seems like a very deep rabbit hole... what have I done?! :)
Ugh... this video essentially just cemented the regret I was teetering with regarding purchasing an mpc over the 404.
I suppose I could always resell and have spare change for a couple more pieces of gear. 😂
I know the feeling
@LiamKillen it's the matter of workflow as well. With MPC, I'm locked in with their DAW and unless I have the Live or X I can't use ableton. This is the only flaw with the One+, otherwise its a cracking piece of gear. 🤙
The most tricky part here is to get the right bpm, so the loops start evenly at the beginning of the bar. Would be really hard to do with unprepared loops.
For this sort of set up / approach, it would be best to have prepared loops with specified BPM
It’s not that hard to do w unprepared loops
@@MXSTRAT I mean if you don’t match the loop BPM and the project BPM, the loop will just stop mid bar
@@9NZ4 I mean a work around is to use the sequencer to get an actual feel of where the end of the bar is and if it’s really that hard you can resample put the pattern on a pad and then there it’s perfect loop
Does anyone feel the BPM detection is a bit meh?
loved this one!
Thx for watching Oora!
So glad seeing someone using it for techno instead of boom bap & hip hop (nothing wrong with those genres, it’s just you don’t see that much vids of techno on sp404mk2) I doubted buying one for a looong time but I think I’m gonna get my credit card out 😂
Glad to be part of convincing you! Haha
This is awesome! One shot mode I didn’t know that existed! It looks so useful. Thanks Liam
It’s a pleasure!
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 thanks guys good stuff
Always a pleasure
Interesting using the editor. Though its cool its kind of Maschine-esque. I did the same thing this week in Ableton but kept to the roots of the sampler by having its outgoing audio trigger the unit to sample. I have been doing this since the 808 EX days and I feel the incoming signal really gets the flavor of the unit through its input. The 404 definitely has a sound quality to it that is unique.
It is now a techno masking MACHIIIINE!
Techno....Why not? Use it for ALL kinds of music....Even "classical", jazz, pop....Whatever springs to mind.
Anything! With this long sample playback mode there’s basically no limit
I am very tempted to buy a sp404 now 😩, but I am also thinking about MPC live II. Hard to decide.
Get the 404 !!
I have an MPC One- I use the 404 WAY more often
I've got the MPC One and just got the 404 in the other day! It's a very different vibe but it has the "fun" factor I feel the MPC kinda lacks! That being said the MPC very much has a huge daw in a box feel! It's a straightforward powerhouse that'll do just about everything you need.
The MPC is a great sequencer but the 404 is way more fun to sample and modulate audio with imo!
Honestly if you're really torn, I think I'd still choose to get the 404 and the One with an external 19V battery, about the price of a Live, especially if you buy used!
Then again I'm a die hard for the MC-101 so take my opinion with a grain of salt haha!
This is great 👏👏👏 Thanks!
It’s a pleasure!
Yes guys! This is awesome! 👏🙌👏
Thanks for watching! :-)
Hey! That guy was in a 5 second interview!
Who what when?
@@LiamKillen 5 second interview knobcon 2023
This is a great video! Really shows the power of the instrument. Only thing that I can’t find on the manual is can you send different things out of the left and right output channel? In a live setup it’s very useful to send just your kick out of left for side chaining, or drums out of one output and music out of another depending on what ur going for.
I think it might work if you just do it the old skool way and just pan the individual samples hard left and hard right but is there a better way?
I’ve never tried this but panning hard L/R on your samples might be an option
Yeah exactly I think this is the way
I bought sp after seing this vid
Wow love to hear this!
Hello!! Is it possible to route different audio for the main audio output and the headphone output? Many thanks for everything!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
Traductor
You can do that in DJ mode ! :-)
Here's a related video: th-cam.com/video/67DWZOSBPXQ/w-d-xo.html
@@LiamKillen Great!! Thanks a lot!!
Well that is REALLY useful. How many SP videos have I watched which weren't as structured or useful as this? Ive had this sampler for months and never worked out how to use dual bus effects or how to record additional steps on an existing pattern.
Glad that this helps you out!
Very interesting... What if I wanted to switch from one track to another? Maybe with different BPM?
I'm not 100 % certain but i'm pretty sure that you can set different BPMs on different patterns within a bank.
All patterns in a bank follow the same tempo. You change one, the others automatically change too, in my experience.
Hey Liam, I'm glad to see you're still using your SP! I know I'm a bit out of topic, but have you ever tried or do you know if it's possible to use one of the Digitakt's midi tracks to control the two FX BUSES of the SP? I always have spare midi tracks on the DT and it would be cool to be able to control two SP FXs at once on my live sets!
You can absolutely do this- here’s a related video. You’ll have to figure out your Digitakt midi CC settings though: th-cam.com/video/JJNiBV-Q3Tc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=lkylM-JfVZHV6ya0
Great I'll check it out, thanks :)@@LiamKillen
Video starts at 1:58
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I menttioned time stamps at like 0:00 lol - I suggest using them if you'd like to jump to something specific
[2:32] This is what I'm here for
😏
This is dope!
I find the SP a ballache to use but it a great machine..
… hey Roland how about another firmware update?
I'm sure they got us sometime soon.
It def takes some getting used to - that's for sure.
This is awesome and inspiring
Thx for watching!!
great video man. I just bought my 404 at the beginning of January and it is also my first piece of music gear so it's been a challenge to get a smooth workflow. what software are y'all using on the laptop?
We're using Ableton as the DAW and the Roland 404 mk2 software which you can DL off of their website for free :-)
Well I’ve just watched a 10/10 black box demo / kind of like that new Korg kaos sampler but it’s very pricey/ now I’ve just bumped into this … I still don’t own a proper sampler and don’t use computer At All .. And now I’m none the wiser of what to get ,even tho it won’t be anytime soon , due to finances .. But I do get a lot from these vids ..
I think that this is it honestly in terms of best bang for your buck sampler in 2023
It's curious that you can do all this things on the SP while their top of the line products, the mc 707, still can't manage long samples due to the fact it can't stream samples from the SD card but needs to allocate into the ram 😢
Yeah that's an old unit! It's super limited.
@@LiamKillen "old"... The octa mk1 is older and stream from the flash... Bad move from Roland...
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What I would actually love is to have the effects being controlled by the pads. Let’s asume I want to activate the effect of beat repeat just for a moment with 1/8 note repeat and activate it just pressing a pad like performance mode. Could be great to have performance effects on pads. As knobs are ok but for certain effects pads could do a better job. Liam, are you thinking on using the 404 again?
That would be cool! You can outsource your FX to a midi controller- that’s about as far as it’s gone for now. Here’s a video about how to set that up incase you’re interested: th-cam.com/video/JJNiBV-Q3Tc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=v7zuJOwzLMzDFGnL
That would be sooo cool. Pressure sensitive effects, kind of like the punch in FX on the PO 33/ EP 133
Nice
Right ?? Thx 😊
Is it easy to mix full tracks? What about beat sync? 🙏🙏🙏
I wouldn't say it's easy to mix full tracks in comparison to something like a DAW - but you can get a basic mix down. In terms of beat syncing - check this video out: th-cam.com/video/8-8WNv3VrPQ/w-d-xo.html
If you have any specific tech questions hit up my Discord :-)
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bloody sick vid
Thx for watching!
You heard it. “stereo” . Now go do it with the Digitakt (mk 2 maybe)
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Here's the kicker, pun intended.
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15:52 "this is for the heads"
ears prick up
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Idt I’ve ever learned so much about the SP404😂
Yeah this one’s a doozie
wooow is a f master class !!!! thnks guys !!
Thank you so much!
It appears here that you can't audition a sound outside of the mix before bringing it in. Is that accurate?
No you can of course audition a sound! As long as record isn't armed.
@@LiamKillen To clarify, can you audition sounds in your headphones in real time while you are playing a track off of the SP live on a PA and then introduce the sound to the track in real time? Because it appears that you cannot.
In DJ mode, yes. But that's a whole other ball game.
@@wavelengthrecords-1shift 3. Cue
Franchement un grand merci, j'ai achete le sp404 mais la learning curve est atroce quand tu viens du novation circuit rhythm, c'est pas du tout intuitif. Comment tu geres de laisser Dustin faire le boulot et de reagir, en plus c'est lui qui te donnes les instruments. Life goals poto. Laches toi sur les tutos stp tes explications sont vraiment top tier in the game.
Merci a toi! Thanks for watching 😊
Will it support an hour and a half of set?
what's the polyphony like?
You can very easily pull off an hour and a half set with that much memory!
32 voices of polyphony, from memory. Sure beats the PO-33!
Does the machine have its own sounds build in?
It does come with stock sounds! But it's really meant to be used as a sampler
The 4.04 update added a sound generator, it's effectively a simple synth. You can sample the sounds and assign them to pads.
My last question!!
For a live musician(I'm a keyboardist) what is your choice between ROLAND SP404 MK 2 or AKAI MPC 1 or AKAI MPC LIVE 2? Please tell me the reason! Thanks a lot!
I can’t answer this! It really depends on how you’re planning on using them
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Wow!
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I had an irrational desire for this machine, but all I saw and heard until now was some lofi blabla stuff, so it just didn't make sense. I guess now it does ;)
Oh you just wait what’s coming next - working on an insane set up with the 404 to push it to the limits
very cool vid
Thank you!
Could roland please add a windows version of the vst?
Hopefully they’re reading this!
How everything is nice and easy when Roland guy helping you out. Just wondering why Roland doesn’t produce content like this?
Oh yeah Dustin’s the man.
They do! They’ve done plenty of SP-404 mk2 reviews / tutorials
sorry I didn’t understand what’s his name
Is there a UNO Synth Pro X in the background…? If so, what are your findings on that highly underrated beast… no video on that one or is there…?
It hasn't stuck yet
@@LiamKillen sounds good, then I guess it’s free of bugs…
For this type of performance the MC-707 would be worlds better.
I personally find it to be a little too clunky - plus it doesn't have a lot of sampling memory.
nice vid, lot of cool things
Thx for watching ! 😊
Can you record a live performance like this demo as individual per pad tracks as audio into Logic? Or do you just export the performance as a whole track?
Sorry if this is a proper newb question but I’ve never had my hands on a 404 so have no idea but this demo looks like an ideal option for me to get all my many finished loops arranged into actual tracks.
Hope that makes sense. For example I can record my drums from tr8s as individual audio tracks per part, so kick, hat, ride, clap etc come out as individual audio tracks rather than having one drums track.
Can the same be done from the 16 pads of 404 for a jam like this?
You have to export us as a track unfortunately. This is one department that I think is sort of lacking with the SP 404 mk2 - and maybe they’ll enhance it with an update.
@@LiamKillen ah that’s a shame. What’s the learning curve on this beast for someone who’s never owned a proper sampler? I use Logic mainly, and own a bit of Hardware (Tr8s, JU06a, TB3) so I’m not a complete newb, butI am where samplers & sampling is involved as I’ve never used a sampler like this.
I’ve been eyeing either a 404mk2 or an MpcOne as I think a hands on sampler could be fun, but I’m indecisive as I’ve never played about with one.
It’d be dope to get some arrangements going from my many loops.
Did u already have knowledge of samplers when you got your first 404?
How was it to learn, and would you suggest getting an older 404 SX or one of the other ones first to get used to the work flow?
Cheers man ;)
@@h-dawg969its a strange and quirky beast. Just when you think you've got it, it won't do what you want. Saying that, it CAN do what YOU want. You could record a pattern (anything from 1 bar to 64 bars) with a kick, snare, hats for example. Than you can copy and paste that pattern, but with only the kick. Then you can resample that pattern to a pad, and export that to a DAW. It's not my cup of tea, but it's definitely doable.
This is the crippling issue in the Digitakt and even more so the octatrack. Sample length needs to be babysat on the sequencer. Adding tons of overhead. Letting the samples run to their conclusion and just repeat without re-triggering is huge.
Yeah this is the best for that sort of workflow
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Well, I must say that of all the devices that I have seen (or currently own), this is the one that looks the most complicated and unintuitive..
Whaaaaaat?
@@LiamKillen Do you find it easy to use?
It is a bitch. But also, when you learn all the secret button combos, you start to feel like a Kung Fu master, paralysing your opponent with a flick of the wrist
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Thank you for watching :-)
I am afraid I will buy this device.
Do not be afraid
Update. I bought it. Life is good.