great instructional! 25 years since i worked jewelry/small metal in school. just now trying to get a bench studio up & relearn for physical and mental therapy after illness. wonderful tips, clear and concise. and on a harbor freight and found tool budget! i'll be watching your other vids. my sincere thanks for sharing your knowledge of hand on metal.
Ironically when I first started making hinges, it was all by hand, super low tech, then we got tooling, everything was machine made ..... then 10 years ago we started working on these ultra modern type homes, quite often I had to hand build parts for a one of a kind job, it's been slowly building from there. At first we would fabricate parts as in cut & weld, then I discovered blacksmithing, that blew my mind forging metal, it's so organic, also much stronger, it's more like functional art work. I literally just finished a door job, the customer had it clad in bronze, but it was just brake formed & flat. This really got my juices flowing, I'm thinking I could create art work doors from copper & other metals, combined with our hardware, based on trades thousands of years old, going on ultra modern homes. Just saying folks if you are looking to start a business in blacksmithing & copper smithing, there's tons of nice small easy products you can do, like light switch covers for one. Only catch is these modern homes, everything has to be flush with the wall, other than that, modern architects are also artists, they love well designed hand made products. If you had a line of small item products, they are super easy to ship, you can do very well on Amazon & Etsy. All from the comfort of your home, exactly like the old trades folk did !
It's great that you are using every day objects for the planishing stakes. I find myself constantly looking at things in odd and ends bins as to how they can be repurposed as forms.
Mark, I've made my living doing metal sculpture since 1973. I also work with brass, bronze, steel and stainless. I use whatever metal fits in with the design I am working on. George
Pam, that makes perfect sense. When you are on the right spot it will feel like a solid hit. When you are not quite on the right point, it will feel less solid. In many instances the "feel" is a better indicator that sound. George
Your Zen comment: You are so right. Some of the hand work people do comes down to "one pointed concentration" and the rest of the world just fades away.
I don't think a polish or lacquer will stand up to much heat. If it was me I would just plan on cleaning it every once i awhile with white vinegar, rinsing, letting it dry and buff up with a soft cloth. Sounds like a very nice piece. I would be hesitant to do anything to it that would damage the finish of either of the three metals. There might be some heat resistant polishes which you might research on amazon.com. You might check out my video on cleaning copper: th-cam.com/video/usUCOvFECIE/w-d-xo.html
George, I have to say it was most enjoyable watching your video, letting us see all the neat things we can use instead of the expensive tools and such a relaxing voice... i have my own paint pouring channel but in college I took a metalworks class where I made a copper bowl and a sterling silver bowl... I LOVED this class and am wanting to get back to making bowls but am totally broke! Your video has me wanting to go find some interesting salvaged tools of my own. Thank you so much! One question, do you use an acid bath to clean off the black scale from annealing or just the wire brush you mentioned?
Heather, thanks for your kind comments. Most of my jeweler friends use a quick acid bath. For me, I just rub the fire scale off with my fingers and then wire brush. Probably the reason I always have dirty hands.
Thanks for posting, this is quite helpful! Could yoou suggest what I might use to planish a copper tube that I flattened? It is covered in hammer marks and I'd like it to be smooth. TIA!
Thanks George, you have been very helpful. I have used lemon oil before on a copper pitcher to keep the fingerprints off and notice that it darkens evenly so I am going to go with that unless you have a better recommendation. I notice especially on the highly polished copper, a fingerprint starts tarnishing right away.. If I store it in a space bag will it need less polishing? I hope someday to learn about making copper stuff. most of what I like is way out of my price range.
Thanks for the comments. From experience I can say that working alone at your bench is a gateway to metal therapy. Best to you in your work and therapy.
I noticed you were talking about the sound made when you are in the right spot with the hammer. I am going deaf so the sound is an issue for me. Is there a marked difference in the feel? I know in most instances if I concentrate on the feel, the vibrations are different from one point to another. (Does this make sense?) I am wondering if it is the same with this?
As I think I said in that video, I'm using a Autobody hammer from HF. If you go on Amazon and type in "plannishing hammer", you can see that some of them are quite expensive. If you are doing fine jewelry work then maybe $50.00 to $100.00 is reasonable. But for me and the type of work that I do, I'd buy this from Amazon: "Performance Tool W1007DB 7-Piece Auto Body Repair Kit". Good reviews and you can always send it back. George
I took the lacquer off the lid of a chafing dish and polished it. What is best to seal it? Lacquer or wax? Will lacquer stand up to heat? I will be using the dish
Steve, I don't remember how many times I annealed that bowl. I would think five or six times. I've learned to anneal often so that the copper doesn't fracture. George
Francisco, if you mean a pan for panning gold, yes, you could make one out of copper, brass, bronze steel or stainless steel. However, just checked the prices on gold panning pans and they are really cheap. Be much easier to buy one rather than hammer out a pan.
George Goehl true the price of pans are low but original copper pans that are currently manufactured by few companies cost several times more then the conventional plastic pan people who look for copper pans absolutely love them they are a classic.
definitely but being a prospector im more on the demand side. thank you also for responding so fast which i like ill make sure to subscribe keep up the great craftsmanship.
Hello sir how are you I am copper mustard from B AK from Pakistan I must recover muster in job security jobs you know this is what you are country my message is response and this
You must love Jehovah your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength. You must love your neighbor as yourself. Jesus the anointed is Lord! Repent and be baptized and believe the Gospel.
I learned a lot from this man, may he rest in peace.
Im currently learning from him rn, sad to hear he passed away
Your the man George. No bling no fuss. I’ve learnt tuns. Cheers 🍻🇬🇧🏴
It's very nice that such a skilled master shares his experience with the others. God bless you, man.
great instructional! 25 years since i worked jewelry/small metal in school. just now trying to get a bench studio up & relearn for physical and mental therapy after illness. wonderful tips, clear and concise. and on a harbor freight and found tool budget! i'll be watching your other vids. my sincere thanks for sharing your knowledge of hand on metal.
Ironically when I first started making hinges, it was all by hand, super low tech, then we got tooling, everything was machine made ..... then 10 years ago we started working on these ultra modern type homes, quite often I had to hand build parts for a one of a kind job, it's been slowly building from there. At first we would fabricate parts as in cut & weld, then I discovered blacksmithing, that blew my mind forging metal, it's so organic, also much stronger, it's more like functional art work.
I literally just finished a door job, the customer had it clad in bronze, but it was just brake formed & flat. This really got my juices flowing, I'm thinking I could create art work doors from copper & other metals, combined with our hardware, based on trades thousands of years old, going on ultra modern homes.
Just saying folks if you are looking to start a business in blacksmithing & copper smithing, there's tons of nice small easy products you can do, like light switch covers for one. Only catch is these modern homes, everything has to be flush with the wall, other than that, modern architects are also artists, they love well designed hand made products. If you had a line of small item products, they are super easy to ship, you can do very well on Amazon & Etsy. All from the comfort of your home, exactly like the old trades folk did !
Well said! Thanks.
It's great that you are using every day objects for the planishing stakes. I find myself constantly looking at things in odd and ends bins as to how they can be repurposed as forms.
Mark, I've made my living doing metal sculpture since 1973. I also work with brass, bronze, steel and stainless. I use whatever metal fits in with the design I am working on.
George
Pam, that makes perfect sense. When you are on the right spot it will feel like a solid hit. When you are not quite on the right point, it will feel less solid. In many instances the "feel" is a better indicator that sound.
George
Your Zen comment: You are so right. Some of the hand work people do comes down to "one pointed concentration" and the rest of the world just fades away.
In a pinch, you could also use the 2 or 3 inch ball from the trailer hitch - that's what I plan on using for a small bowl shape.
Ideas generate ideas as I am sure your new ideas will generate even more ideas. Thanks!
I got some old 50, 75, 100, & 150lb ball tractor weights years ago, work great for planishing of any kind for larger items if you ever run across any
Thanks for posting. Great idea.
I love the low tech, low price tools!
Thanks you for helping me in my design technology lifestyle
Thank you for sharing this video with everyone.
Excellent into to planishing, George. Thanks.
Well done. It is not as easy as you might assume, to make a bowl like this!
Your videos are very inspiring.
Thanks for the quick reply, the chafing dish is copper lined with very shiny stainless steel, the handle is brass.
I don't think a polish or lacquer will stand up to much heat. If it was me I would just plan on cleaning it every once i awhile with white vinegar, rinsing, letting it dry and buff up with a soft cloth.
Sounds like a very nice piece. I would be hesitant to do anything to it that would damage the finish of either of the three metals.
There might be some heat resistant polishes which you might research on amazon.com.
You might check out my video on cleaning copper: th-cam.com/video/usUCOvFECIE/w-d-xo.html
Neat work place and cute little bowl... thanks...
George, I have to say it was most enjoyable watching your video, letting us see all the neat things we can use instead of the expensive tools and such a relaxing voice... i have my own paint pouring channel but in college I took a metalworks class where I made a copper bowl and a sterling silver bowl... I LOVED this class and am wanting to get back to making bowls but am totally broke! Your video has me wanting to go find some interesting salvaged tools of my own. Thank you so much! One question, do you use an acid bath to clean off the black scale from annealing or just the wire brush you mentioned?
Heather, thanks for your kind comments. Most of my jeweler friends use a quick acid bath. For me, I just rub the fire scale off with my fingers and then wire brush. Probably the reason I always have dirty hands.
Thanks for posting, this is quite helpful! Could yoou suggest what I might use to planish a copper tube that I flattened? It is covered in hammer marks and I'd like it to be smooth. TIA!
Very nice professional voice
Thanks for the compliment!
Thanks George, you have been very helpful. I have used lemon oil before on a copper pitcher to keep the fingerprints off and notice that it darkens evenly so I am going to go with that unless you have a better recommendation. I notice especially on the highly polished copper, a fingerprint starts tarnishing right away.. If I store it in a space bag will it need less polishing? I hope someday to learn about making copper stuff. most of what I like is way out of my price range.
Thanks for the comment. Copper is very forgiving. If you don't get what you want, the copper can be annealed and you can get back to forming.
Like to see some of your helmets. Just been reading about the Knight Templers.
Thanks George! I wanted to ask if you have ever been able to make any money making copperworks? Take care and keep the great info/projects coming
I have to try this I have a big piece of used copper sheet waiting to be made into something
Thanks for the comments. From experience I can say that working alone at your bench is a gateway to metal therapy. Best to you in your work and therapy.
Your voice and tone are amazing. It's like I'm looking at a wildlife documentary
@@gabrielveleanu3771 Appreciate the comment on my narrations.
Will these videos be available for purchase again?
I noticed you were talking about the sound made when you are in the right spot with the hammer. I am going deaf so the sound is an issue for me. Is there a marked difference in the feel?
I know in most instances if I concentrate on the feel, the vibrations are different from one point to another. (Does this make sense?) I am wondering if it is the same with this?
Hey George. Where is a good place to buy a raising hammer? Harbor freight doesn’t have any on their website. Thanks for your help 🙏
As I think I said in that video, I'm using a Autobody hammer from HF. If you go on Amazon and type in "plannishing hammer", you can see that some of them are quite expensive. If you are doing fine jewelry work then maybe $50.00 to $100.00 is reasonable. But for me and the type of work that I do, I'd buy this from Amazon: "Performance Tool W1007DB 7-Piece Auto Body Repair Kit". Good reviews and you can always send it back. George
i mostly use 1mm or 1.5mm thick copper and a big railscrew in a piece of wood.
I'll look forward to watching your videos.
Can’t find a tear drop dolly we to harbor freight they said they did not now what I was talking about ?
I took the lacquer off the lid of a chafing dish and polished it. What is best to seal it? Lacquer or wax? Will lacquer stand up to heat? I will be using the dish
What's the material of the chafing dish? As in copper, brass, pewter, silver?
Thanks for sharing. Great video. When making a bowl like this how many times do you anneal the copper?
Steve, I don't remember how many times I annealed that bowl. I would think five or six times. I've learned to anneal often so that the copper doesn't fracture.
George
@stuartjakl Simple is always best!
I was taught how to planish at wymondham college. In the 70s.
Looked up Wymondham College. Boarding school. I'm curious as to what kind of classes they offered.
This was back in the 1970s. It was in metalwork classes we learnt this.Great school back then- a grammar school.
can you make a gold pan?it seems like not to many people recognize how to build one.
Francisco, if you mean a pan for panning gold, yes, you could make one out of copper, brass, bronze steel or stainless steel. However, just checked the prices on gold panning pans and they are really cheap. Be much easier to buy one rather than hammer out a pan.
George Goehl true the price of pans are low but original copper pans that are currently manufactured by few companies cost several times more then the conventional plastic pan people who look for copper pans absolutely love them they are a classic.
Thanks for this comment. I didn't know that copper panning pans were in demand. This may be something you'd like to explore.
definitely but being a prospector im more on the demand side. thank you also for responding so fast which i like ill make sure to subscribe keep up the great craftsmanship.
where are you located ?
Hello sir how are you I am copper mustard from B AK from Pakistan I must recover muster in job security jobs you know this is what you are country my message is response and this
your so hipster:) I like you haha
I take it you get paid by Habor Freight
I wish! No such luck. Just a good place to buy tools that get moderate use.
DT HW ANYONE?
I have no idea what DT HW means. Obviously I'm behind the times.
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You must love Jehovah your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength. You must love your neighbor as yourself. Jesus the anointed is Lord! Repent and be baptized and believe the Gospel.