@@zzdravvkoo I mean yeah old romanian before the relatinisation was very close to bulgarian. As a Bulgarian I can actually understand old romanian to an extent. I think the main language in those lands was bulgarian though before austria and hungary and greek pharonites changed the language
Bulgarians are big part Thracians, most of their nowadays land Is Thracians, so simmer down now people, the modern Bulgarians are a mix of proto Bulgarians, Thracians and Slavs.
Tony James actually the Thracians WERE Slavs according to DNA analysis as were Illyrians as well as ancient Macedonians. All these people belong to the R1a Slavic Y DNA that genetic analysts say it has been in the Balkans at least 4000 years and most likely originated there.
Bulgarians are mostly Thracian. We are the closest ethnic group to the Thracians. We have saved Thracian traditions (like Nestinarstvo, Kukeri, Martenitsa, etc.). However, we are Slavic, too. We speak a Slavic language. We have Slavic traditions like Koledari, etc. Our traditional clothes are of Slavic origin (mostly), too. We have only a bit of Bulgar DNA. Most of what was left from our Bulgar ancestors were symbols like IYI. Music and dance were also significantly influenced by the Bulgars, which explains why our instruments are close to some Asian ones. We are mixed. The name Bulgaria actually means mixed. We are Thracians, Slavs, and Bulgars mixed together. We are neither strictly Thracian, nor Slavic, nor Bulgar. We are a mix. And that is perfect. Each tribe that has resided on these ancient lands has left a beautiful mark on our culture. It's perfect to be mixed because that made our culture rich. When the Bulgars arrived in the Balkans, instead of fighting and killing the local Thracian and Slavic tribes, they worked together. They worked together to create this gorgeous nation and culture. They did not exterminate each other. Instead, they lived in peace. Together. The Slavic, Bulgar, Thracian languages and cultures were totally different, but that was okay because they learned to tolerate and love each other. So, behind our nation lies a beautiful story of collaboration, tolerance, and respect. Be proud. 🇧🇬
You are wrong the natives of Thrace suffered a lot from Bulgarians in byzantine times and that's why Bulgarians were treated with a lot of brutality from Basil ll after they fought.
Thracians are Indo-European tribe like Greeks, Lydians, Illyrians why are you claiming their history when you are clearly Balto-Slavic and Tatar country?
@@locoloco3387 you- Realize Balto-Slavic Are still Indo-European right? Also no Thracians weren't treated badly in the Empire Well not anymore then the others in the Empire that is Basil II mostly sought to deal with the Bulgarians now that the Arab front was Well Not as much of a point to guard it so might as well deal with what remains of a once great Empire and take your lands back
The artwork is gorgeous, it's great to see that history is preserved and well kept. I've recently been doing personal digging into the history of Dacians, Thracians, and the many other cultures that existed there. Could just be a pipe dream, but I'd like to visit many places in Europe one day, you have sold me on visiting here
It is interesting to think that as a Greek Thracian I share a common ancestry with Bulgarians. This should be something to unite us, as well as Orthodoxy, to develop deeper bonds and to "Push" the unwelcomed off of eastern Thrace
αδερφέ οι Βούλγαροι είναι Σλάβοι, οι αρχαίοι Θράκες δεν είχαν καμία σχέση με τους Βουλγάρους. ο μόνος λόγος που μπορεί να έχουν κάποιες ομοιότητες οφείλεται στο γεγονός ότι ενσωματώθηκαν μια περιόδο (του Βασιλείου το βουλγαροκτόνου και έπειτα) στην ρωμαικη ανατολικη αυτοκρατορία. Οπότε εκει προέκυψαν κάποιοι μεικτοι γάμοι πολυ πιθανον. Κατα τα αλλα η σχεση θρακων και βουλγάρων ειναι μηδαμινή.
@@atreast.4331 The Bulgarians are not just Slavs we have 3 main ancestors Bulgars Slavs and Thracians the main ones being Thracians we adopted many Thracian traditions the Thracians are where we come from our true heritage
@@rawka_7929 The term bulgarian bulgar etc etc did not exist in ancient times. The only common you have with thracians is that you live where they lived. If you happen to have anything else in common is just because when you came in the area there were already Greeks in the area. The only reason you propagandise this thing is in order to expand your boarders to Mediterranean sea just like your Vardaskans brothers do with Macedonia. All this started from the era of WW2 when you wanted to co operate with the Axon. Before that all the bulgarians knew that they had a medieval and afterward history.
@@atreast.4331 no we don't even want the Aegean sea mate and it's no propaganda also I never said those ancestors originated at the same time but they were at the same time and place at once also the Bulgars are believed to be mentioned in Ancient China 4th Century AD as one of the 5 barbarian tribes and also also there is a theory that the Bulgars were Thracians that fled the lands when Alexander The Great wrecked some shit idk how accurate it is if you're interested do research on your own but we can tell ya they were never Greeks they were their own thing 1 of the 3 main ancestors of Bulgarians which makes them oh who would've thought BULGARIANS
@@rawka_7929 exactly, you came from Asia, you are not Europeans. This theory sounds very convenient but it is so proved historically that you got here during the medieval times. Since you mentioned Alexander the great... he used about 5000 thracians in his panhellenic army... wonder why ? Either way the term Bulgar/Bulgarian etc etc has nothing to do with the thracians. Even if we agreed that thracians have nothing to do with Greeks (lol) they are surely not Bulgarians. Bulgarians just live in a former greek territory and had been subjucated for some years by the greeks, (that is why you got alphabet and became christians). That is why you may become a bit thracianized (if indeed you happen to have anything thracian in your blood), but that does not make you thracians. Anyway, i will not convince you , and i am really done with the comments. Believe whatever you want. In the end Turkey will kill us both so it will not mater much xD. Check the Jirikeck line by the way. i think that he was from your country... but i am not sure, i do not really remember..
My surname (Tracey) Derived from of the Gaulish male's name Draccios, or Latin Thracius ("of Thrace, Thracian"). So where exactly am I supposed to live in your opinion? Lol
@Obicham BG I am Irish but born in Nova Scotia;) lol. And I believe it's more like ancient people from Turkey= Irish =Thracians = Norman's(not Vikings) IMO .or so my surname tells me.lol Like an east west to east to west again kinda deal;) also..If you compare the burial tombs of the Thracians to the the Irish burial tombs it seems apparent that they are strikingly similar in construction but the Thracian tombs more modern in comparison. DNA does say the Irish originated in Turkey:)
@Obicham BG Dude...look up "Hill of Tara" in Ireland compare to "Gavrinis Goat island" france and again compare to Thracians burials tombs/mounds. And yes ..A 2013 study revealed that many Irish men may be able to trace their roots back to Turkey. Focusing on the role of the Y chromosome, which is passed from father to son, the research indicates Turkish farmers arrived in Ireland about 6,000 years ago, bringing agriculture with them.
Balkan people have been mixing for centuries. We all have a bit of everything in us. Pointless to argue. Plus historical sources were always written by the winners. So I wouldn’t believe a Greek source if it says Albanians or Thracians or Macedonians etc have Greek or Turkic genes. At the end of the day we come from humans not even known to us at The this point. We are all human after all. Peace
Bruv, discrediting the real history and people, who are prophets and teachers to all mankind, is just an insult. We are not mixed here, we are Slavic Thracian. The Bulgarian dns matches 60% to Thracians. What ever 40% are, they are not significantly changing our bloodline. Stop talking down on people. Rather respect the truth.
Who are the Bulgarians?" Ziezi ex quo Vulgares "4th Century Bulgarians are mentioned by the Roman Chronolagy With VU because in Greek language there is no letter" Ъ" and to write it in Greek you have to combine letters to make the sound. Saint Jerome MAP of the Balkans year 354 says Mesia hec & Vulgaria again the greek VU combination to make the bulgarian letter "Ъ". THE MAP IS IN THE LONDON MESEUM TO THIS CURRENT DAY so propanga paid actors on youtube I am very sorry : ) ! Bulgarians are a Thracian Indo-European Tribe formed from the tribe Baracri again mentioned at the year 354 by the author Curtius Rufus considered the strongest ally to Alexander the great. So in conclusion, we were never turkic, nomadic, asian or any of that propaganda bulshit we were on the Balkans and this is where we still are. Herodot writes Balacri "Бългри" as Falcri [1] µέχρι µὲν δὴ τῆς τούτων τῶν Σκυθέων χώρης ἐστὶ ἡ καταλεχθεῖσα πᾶσα πεδιάς τε γῆ καὶ βαθύγαιος, τὸ δ᾽ ἀπὸ τούτου λιθώδης τ᾽ ἐστὶ καὶ τρηχέα. [2] διεξελθόντι δὲ καὶ τῆς τρηχέης χώρης πολλὸν οἰκέουσι ὑπώρεαν ὀρέων ὑψηλῶν ἄνθρωποι λεγόµενοι εἶναι πάντες ἐκ γενετῆς γινόµενοι, καὶ ἔρσενες καὶ θήλεαι ὁµοίως, καὶ σιµοὶ καὶ γένεια ἔχοντες µεγάλα, φωνὴν δὲ ἰδίην ἱέντες, ἐσθῆτι δὲ χρεώµενοι Σκυθικῇ, ζῶντες δὲ ἀπὸ δενδρέων.
I was lucky to visit Bulgaria and see the Etruscan gold treasures in Panagyurishte and Sofia, of which I’ve known from the history books only. I also learned that Thracian kingdom existed much earlier, than a Millenia, ie their art of wine making is about 7K years old!
gees , as a iberian , not long ago i discovered trough my dna test that i belong to bronze age , Hallstatt , thraco-illyrian tribes , today i'm so upset i no longer know what i am , i been living a lie as a iberian
And the Italian professor Sante Gracotti says: “One of the main merits of the Bulgarians is that they kept the Turks away from the heart of Europe for several centuries." (So much for the" turkic" origin of Bulgarians) The Romanian Denshianu says that the Romanians lived so long in contact with the Bulgarians, who extended their power beyond the Danube lands, that they owed their civilization to this common life in the Middle Ages. (and so much for the Romanians claiming our heritage) "Ancient (proto-) Bulgarians have long been thought of as a Turkic population. However, evidence found in the past three decades shows that this is not the case. Until now, this evidence has not included ancient mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) analysis. To fill this void, we collected human remains from the 8th to the 10th century ad located in three necropolises in Bulgaria: Nojarevo (Silistra region) and Monastery of Mostich (Shumen region), both in northeastern Bulgaria, and Tuhovishte (Satovcha region) in south-western Bulgaria. The phylogenetic analysis of 13 ancient DNA samples (extracted from teeth) identified 12 independent haplotypes, which we further classified into mtDNA haplogroups found in present-day European and western Eurasian populations. Our results suggest a western Eurasian matrilineal origin for proto-Bulgarians, as well as a genetic similarity between proto- and modern Bulgarians. Our future work will provide additional data that will further clarify proto-Bulgarian origins, thereby adding new clues to the current understanding of European genetic evolution." " Furthermore, the comparison of the occurrence of these haplogroups shows no link between Bulgarians and Altaic and Caucasus populations. Based on the substantial genetic input of proto-Bulgarians to the modern Bulgarian gene pool, the present study confirms the nonexistence of a close Y-chromosomal or mtDNA link between proto-Bulgarians on the one hand and Altaic and Caucasus populations on the other." "Proto-Bulgarians are positioned among South-Eastern and Southern European populations including modern Bulgarians." - "Proto-Bulgarians are genetically distant from Northern and Western Europeans and populations from the Near East and Caucasus." - "On the greatest distance from Proto-Bulgarians are Volga-Ural and Arabic populations." (We are native to Thrace, we never came from anywhere, not even from another planet, because lately they talk about Aliens where Bulgarians have been present. It's crazy)
for Thracian what say historians.... Xenophon, he informs us that the Thracians regarded themselves as relatives of the Ionians (Cyrus Anasazi, Z31). The fact that the inhabitants of Thrace were Greeks is confirmed by Flavius Claudius Julianus who says: the inhabitants of Thrace are descended from Greece book(ΛΟΓΟΣ paragraph 12,17) other prove is inscription in the museum of the Pliska of Northern Bulgaria in the 9th century AD.the inscription write in this area, Greeks lived.
that is what i found in my iberian dna , bronze age HALSTTAT , THRACO - ILLYRIAN DNA whatta fook this is very serious i'm not iberian ? whatta fook history is fake
The amount of Anti-Bulgarians on this comment section astounds me from Romanians, to Greeks to even the Turks and Albanians what’s your issue trying to deny our heritage and replace it with your lies that we are a Turkic people it been proven time and time again that we are not Turkic and that we are mixed with Thracian blood. Why do you insist on bringing us down why can’t we be allied together. No brother wars
No one is Anti Bulgarian just anti bullshit.... every Bulgarian knows today that the Thracians were a Greek people.. Bulgarian people have our DNA and blood mixed with others and that is your new race of people.. You are our brother just you need to recognize facts !! Greeks (Hellenes love Bulgaria brother) and we will always be by your side because you are part of us from within!! Just you need to understand that your DNA is part Greek inside you !!! From the Thracians !!! We love Bulgaria !!! Just let the truth set you free !!!
Thracians are the Dasa or the Rig Veda and the Dahae of the Avesta. English is an Indo European language of the West Germanic branch. English milk, Tocharian malke, Latin mulgeo, Old Irish melg, Greek amelgo, Russian moloko and so forth. Linguistic, textual, genetic and archaeological evidence for the Out of India Theory of Indo European Languages Baghpat Chariots, Weapons and the Horse in the Harappan Civilization - Dr. BK Manjul th-cam.com/video/fZvKpjjTpgg/w-d-xo.html Findings from the latest genetic study conducted by ASI in collaboration with the Reich Lab at Harvard using ancient DNA from Rakhigarhi slides at 29:00 mark th-cam.com/video/Dio3Ep0nlv4/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/n4WFk0iEK5k/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/f0Lg1b_8N54/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/-wIu3dUsmtY/w-d-xo.html Here are the tribes that spread the Indo European languages from South Asia to West Asia, Central Asia and to Europe Avestan) Afghanistan: Proto-Iranian: Sairima (Śimyu), Dahi (Dāsa). NE Afghanistan: Proto-Iranian: Nuristani/Piśācin (Viṣāṇin). Pakhtoonistan (NW Pakistan), South Afghanistan: Iranian: Pakhtoon/Pashtu (Paktha). Baluchistan (SW Pakistan), SE Iran: Iranian: Bolan/Baluchi (Bhalāna). NE Iran: Iranian: Parthian/Parthava (Pṛthu/Pārthava). SW Iran: Iranian: Parsua/Persian (Parśu/Parśava). NW Iran: Iranian: Madai/Mede (Madra). Uzbekistan: Iranian: Khiva/Khwarezmian (Śiva). W. Turkmenistan: Iranian: Dahae (Dāsa). Ukraine, S, Russia: Iranian: Alan (Alina), Sarmatian (Śimyu). Turkey: Thraco-Phrygian/Armenian: Phryge/Phrygian (Bhṛgu). Romania, Bulgaria: Thraco-Phrygian/Armenian: Dacian (Dāsa). Greece: Greek: Hellene (Alina). Albania: Albanian: Sirmio (Śimyu). Shrikant Gangadhar Talageri talageri.blogspot.com/2020/03/the-rigveda-and-aryan-theory-rational_27.html Five waves of Indo-European expansion: a preliminary model (2018) Igor A Tonoyan-Belyayev I. Tonoyan-Belyayev www.academia.edu/36998766/Five_waves_of_Indo-European_expansion_a_preliminary_model_2018_
@All Knowing 369 Thank you for the advice. Some of it is worth following. I am only talking about Greek as a language not the Greek people themselves. People can change languages without really changing much else.
The Bulgarian title "Kan"( eng.- Khan ) mean "king". The all name of the title is" KanasuBigi", "u Bigi" ( from the God ), "as" ( I (have) ), "Kan" ( the power ), that title exist even in Sumer. So "Kan" means king,lord,ruler an also kingdom,land and that title is not from Asia. "Bal", "bul", "bel" means "white", the old name of Thracians is "Belazgi"( the Danaians call them "Pelasgi" ) and that name means "Bel"( white ), "azgi" ( people ) . After that they call himselfs "Thracians" and "Bulgarians" ( Bul - white, Arians - people ), even Herodotus write for the Thracians and for the Bulgarians like for one people. Balkan ( Bal-Kan ) means "kan" - kingdom,land and "bal" - white, "the land of the whites". Balkans are the homeland of the White race. The chosen nation from the Bible is the White race, the Belazgians, and they give the culture to the other nations ( races ), so the influence is from here-there, not from there-here. The name "Bulgarians" is from the thracian tribe Getae( Geti ), the Bulgarian king dynasty is from that tribe, Atila is one of the kings. The other names of Getae are Goths, Scythians, Sklavins, Huns. Mongolians get the name Khan from the Bulgarians and they are crossbreed between Bulgarians and Koreans.
The fact where these ancient tombs are is an undisputable fact which land these kings inhabited.Bulgaria. They were not attracted by the scorching wasteland of Greece. Greece was just the port harbor of the Balkans.
Here some middle ages proofs about that.. Joannes Zonaras (12th century): "[...] Paeonians - Latins or Thracian people, Macedons. These are so-called Paeonians. Paeonians are Bulgarians [...]" Johannes Tzetzes (12th century): "[...] The Paeonians are Bulgarians [...]" Gilo Tusculanus (11th century): "[...] Bulgarians who are named Thracians according to the previous (older) monuments [...]" John Malalas (6th century): "[...] Achilles left with the Atreidai, bringing his own army of 3000 of the men known then as Myrmidons but known now as Bulgars [...]" Michael Attaleiates (11th century): "[...] The Moesi are certainly Bulgarians who later received their new name. [...] the Bulgarians are the Myrmidons [...]" Joan Ekzarh (10th century): "[...] The Thessalian Myrmidons of Achilles are Bulgarians [...]" Flavius Magnus Aurelius Cassiodorus Senator (5th century): "[...] The Bulgarians are old Moesian or Illyrian people [...]" Magnus Felix Ennodius (6th century): "[...] The Bulgarians are old Moesian or Illyrian people [...]" Demetrios Chomatenos (13th century): "[...] This Great father and enlightener of Bulgaria was from the European Moesians by origin, which the people usually know also as Bulgarians [...]" Anastasius Bibliothecarius (4th century): "[...] The Bulgarians have united their homeland in accordance to their blood right [...]" Leo the Deacon (10th century): "[...] For the Byzantines, the words Moesians, Scythians, and Bulgarians mean the same thing, they use them as synonymes [...] V-VI century - Ioannes Malalas: "The so called Achilles went with Atreidai and led his own army of three thousand men, then called Myrmidons and now Bulgarians" - page 97 www.documentacatholicaomnia.eu/03d/0491-0578,_Ioannes_Malalas,_Chronographia_(CSHB_Dindorfii_Recensione),_GR_LT.pdf picture from the text in Greek: facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150315761464099&set=o.122376701166845&type=1&theater - Michael Attaleiates: History - ''the Moesi ... are certainly Bulgarians who later received their new name ... Bulgarians Myrmidons ..." - John Zonaras: ''Paeonians - Latins or Thracian people of Macedonia. These are so-called Paeonians. Paeonians were Bulgarians. " - Johannes Tzetza: ''Pyros and Akamas (native) of the Thracian Hellespont, Maronietza Evfimos son of Treziius, Pirehmie, who was of the Paeonians they were all from the Bulgarians, from those of the river Axios, also called Vardar'' (see photo with Greek text). XI century - ''Bulgarians who are named Thracians according to the previous (old) monuments'' - „Hinc iter aggressi per fines Vulgariorum, quos vocitant Thracas, ut habent monumenta priorum“ - Fulcher of Chartres, a French priest, (a description of the first crusade in 1096) III-IV century - Mavro Orbin cites evidence of Marcus Aurelius Kasiodor that Bulgarians fought with the Romans about 390 AD. - Cassiodorus writes that the Bulgarians are old Moesian or Illyrian people - Ennodius Ticinensis (473-524, Bishop, court historian of the Gothic King Theodoric) indicate that Bulgarians are old Moesian and Illyrian people. - 4th century map (see photo) by St. Jerome (331-420) - Mesia hec & Vulgaria (Misia here and Bulgaria). It is composed by even older maps - Bishop Eusebius of Caesarea (270 to 33, called the "father of church history." The map is preserved in a copy of the 12th century. letopisec.blog.bg/photos/123281/original/Karta_Ieronim_4_vek22222.jpg I-II century -Flavius Josephus writes ''Dacians called Bulgarians'' In addition: - Ravennatis Anоnymi Cosmographia: „Inter vero Tratiam vel Macedoniam et Mysiam inferiorem modo Bulgari habitant, qui ex super scripta maiore Scythia egressi sunt.” upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/Karte_Ravennat.jpg www.venstar.de/extra/App0003a.bmp - Demetrios Chomateno: Brief Life of Clement Ohridski - ''This great Father was a native from the European Moesians, people usually known as Bulgarians. They were displaced in the old days by the military power of Alexander of placement of Brusa, Olympus to the North Atlantic and the Dead Sea, and after a long time with terrible army crossed the Danube and invaded all the neighboring areas: Pannonia and Dalmatia, Thrace and Illyricum, and and much of Macedonia and Thessaly
@@fonthracian7042 Bro, you speak a slavic language. Slavs are not Thracians. Thracians were the same people as Dacians and they spoke the same language. The difference between them was represented by their customs and foreign influences. Thracians were influenced by greeks, while dacians were influenced by celtic and scythian tribes. And the only populations of today’s age who are the descendants of those people are Romanians, Vlachs and Aromanians.
@@davidmark225 I speak Bulgarian language not slavic. Bulgarian language is based on thracian language. Wallachia principality used bulgarian Cyrillic alphabet to 1853. After that "Romania" shows up. So bro don't tell me what language i speak. Bulgarians are thracians so go back to school.
for Thracian what say historians.... Xenophon, he informs us that the Thracians regarded themselves as relatives of the Ionians (Cyrus Anasazi, Z31). The fact that the inhabitants of Thrace were Greeks is confirmed by Flavius Claudius Julianus who says: the inhabitants of Thrace are descended from Greece book(ΛΟΓΟΣ paragraph 12,17) other prove is inscription in the museum of the Pliska of Northern Bulgaria in the 9th century AD.the inscription write in this area, Greeks lived.
Not exactly. Modern Bulgarians are a Mix of Slavs, Thracians and Bulgars. Bulgars were far into Siberia in Ancient times, which is not a bad thing at all. But you, as I, can identify with more than one ancestry, which is great! Imagine, one ancestor of yours (I am assuming you are Bulgarian) Lived as a mighty horse rider in the steppe, one as a slav warrior in the north, and one as a Falx man in Thrace. Isn't that amazing?
Thracians are the same with Dacians. You slavs are ashamed of your common origins with russians and now you try to get an ancient root from this area to your existence.
@Obicham BG Yeah, I've heard that Ancient Greeks thought Thracians were 'barbarians'. "Both Romans and Greeks called them barbarians referring to the fact that they weren't neither Romans nor Greeks and to the perceived backwardness of their culture." That just proves they have nothing to do with Greeks. Greeks saw them as primitive because Thracians didn't practice Greek culture.
As a far observer, I can say this,about the dispute between Greeks and Bulgarians : Thracians above Haemus mountains,absorbed by the Slav-Bulgars,and Thracians of south and east embraced Greek language and civilization.That is the story untill 19th century.After the rise of Pansalavistic movement,the things in Balcans, pretty much, f@&d up....
According to Homer's "Iliad" the alphabet was given to the grecos by the Tracian tribe Frigi. When prince Paris of Troy wrote on a napkin to Helena "Allow me to love you", Agamemnon couldn't read it, because he was illiterate greek.
Same Greek alphabet exists long before and slav or bulgar came to the region. Have another look at thracian coins or even Illyrian coins you'll see all the writing in the same Greek language that never changed in over 3500 years. Not bulgars not Albanians or slave are not native to their habitat now. Bulgars are from the caucus as well as Albanians. Neither one of you were ever around. DNA even proves this today.
Can you tell me one emperor with Greece origin from Byzantium empire? Where I can see somewhere to read Byzantium Emperor with Greek Origin or from Greece?
@@martindimitrov1652 20 Out of the 22 emperors during this final period of Byzantium, 20 (91%) were Greek. This makes sense given that the areas of the empire that remained at this late stage in Byzantine history were mostly Greek, especially under the Palaiologos Dynasty.Aug 13, 2017
@@constantinep.9357 And it is written Konstantin Great from Greece the Greek man king of Byzantium ? Please give me name of one king where is written that he is Greek.
Before you make stupid comment please show proof becausei have it right hear a thracian dug up in present bulgaria.genetiker.wordpress.com/2015/09/01/more-y-snp-calls-from-iron-and-bronze-age-bulgaria/ after you read this you will see that eb1 wich is the highest in albanians in europe. E-V13 did not come from anywhere but the Balkans. Its immediate ancestors are Mesolithic Balkanic
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Albanians and Greeks want to be Illyrian and Thracian but DNA proved that they don't have anything in common with them, Albanians came from Caucasia to Balkan, even their appearance confirms that - Illyrians were tall people while todays Albanians are short, not even a single roman or byzantium document calls them Illyrian, in fact they all state that they came from Caucasia to Balkan - even their medieval flag confirms that, they had a fortress on their flag while Bosnia had the Illyrian flag - half moon and star! This is what a roman document stated about our king Stephen Tomaš: NOS STEPHANUS THOMAS DEI GRATIA RASCIAE, SERVIAE, BOSNENSIUM SIVE ILLYRICORUM, PRIMORDIAE, DALMATIAE ET CROATIAE! Roman pope Pio II called our KING TVRTKO THE KING OF ILLYRIANS! Before Enver Hoca Albanians didn't even know who Illyrians were! Albanians say that Dalmatia comes from the word DELME which means SHEEP hahahahhahaha that is the dumbest thing ever, DALMATIA comes from 2 words: DAL and MATI which means GIFT OF MOTHER - BIG MOTHER was a goddess in which Illyrians believed, they say that DARDANIA comes from the word DARDHE which means pear hahahahahah all countries have pears hahahah, DARDANIA comes also from 2 words: DAR - GIFT and DANIA - DANIA was also a goddess in which Illyrians believed, so much for the wannabe Illyrians Albanians! OGANJ - Illyrian god of sun, today only Bosnians have that word in their language! Illyrians also used to leave food, clothes, gold near rivers for their Illyrian god Bindo - the only people that keep doing that today are Bosnians not Albanians, another thing is that Illyrians were tattooed, all documents state that Bosnians were tattooed also also while Albanians were not!
Greeks never claim to be Illyrian. In fact we gave that name to them. They were some Greeks living in those lands among many other peoples or tribes. Very few Illyrian blood remains today from these tribes. Mostly in Croatia about 4% Illyrian DNA of less than 20% of population and a little more than that in Bosnians. Proven already. Alsp proven is that ancient Thracians were Greeks and living in those areas from long before and of you were around !! Greeks settled all the coastal areas around the black sea and Mediterranean sea. All of Thrace was in Ancient Greek written language and proof lies everywhere you look plus modern Greek language is the same as the ancient. Never changed !!!! Bulgarian historians know this and wrote about this. Look up your own things from your own people and find truth !!!
SOMEONE WHO FINALLY GOT IT RIGHT.... BUT DO NOT FORGET THAT ILLYRIA WAS GREEK PROVINCE AT THE TIME AND RULED BY GREEK KINGS.. THEN THE ROMANS CAME WAY AFTER THE GREEKS !! THE ONLY PEOPLE TODAY THAT HAVE ANY TRACE OF ILLYRIAN BLOOD ARE THE BOSNIANS THE CROATS AND SERBS.... ALL THREE HAVE VERY LITTLE DNA FROM ILLYRIANS AS OVER THE YEARS THEY MIXED WITH OTHERS LIKE GREEK AND ROMANS ETC BUT YES THESE PEOPLE ARE THE ONLY ONES WITH A TRACE TO ILLYRIA. MY BOSNIAN BROTHER !!
Professor Jensen says. ‘For almost everything that is known in the Hittite language is Old Armenian in form..Historian Sayce (1845-1933) also consider Hittite and Armenian to be one and the same’. and Rothman, quoted earlier, said...''All that was known in Mesopotamia came from Armenia and that Armenia is the absent fragment in the entire mosaic of the ancient world's civilization's construction...
@@haunebu421 According to a triple analysis - autosomal, mitochondrial and paternal - of available data from large-scale studies on Balto-Slavs and their proximal populations, the whole genome SNP data situates Bulgarians in a cluster with Romanians, Macedonians and Gagauzes, and they are at similar proximity to Montenegrins and Serbs.[61] The Bulgars (also Bulghars, Bulgari, Bolgars, Bolghars, Bolgari,[1] Proto-Bulgarians[2]) were Turkic semi-nomadic warrior tribes that flourished in the Pontic-Caspian steppe and the Volga region during the 7th century. They became known as nomadic equestrians in the Volga-Ural region, but some researchers say that their ethnic roots can be traced to Central Asia.[3] During their westward migration across the Eurasian steppe, the Bulgar tribes absorbed other ethnic groups and cultural influences in a process of ethnogenesis, including Indo-European, Finno-Ugric and Hunnic tribes.[4][5][6][7][8][9] Modern genetic research on Central Asian Turkic people and ethnic groups related to the Bulgars points to an affiliation with Western Eurasian populations.[9][10][11] The Bulgars spoke a Turkic language, i.e. Bulgar language of Oghuric branch.[12] They preserved the military titles, organization and customs of Eurasian steppes,[13] as well as pagan shamanism and belief in the sky deity Tangra.[14] The Bulgars became semi-sedentary during the 7th century in the Pontic-Caspian steppe, establishing the polity of Old Great Bulgaria c. 630-635, which was defeated by the Khazar Empire in 668 AD. In c. 679, Khan Asparukh conquered Scythia Minor, opening access to Moesia, and established the Danubian Bulgaria - the First Bulgarian Empire, where the Bulgars became a political and military elite. They merged subsequently with established Byzantine populations,[15][16] as well as with previously settled Slavic tribes, and were eventually Slavicized, thus forming the ancestors of modern Bulgarians.[17] A comparative genetic study shows the Bulgarians primarily represented by the Western Eurasian Y haplogroups, with 40% belonging to haplogroups E-V13 and I-M423, and 20% to R-M17 (R-M198 and R-M458). Haplogroups common in the Middle East (J-M172, J-M267, and G-M201) and in South Western Asia (R-L23*) occur at frequencies of 19% and 5%, respectively. Haplogroups C, N and Q together occur at the negligible frequency of only 1.5% among Bulgarians.[188] A 2015 Bulgarian study found that Bulgars were "genetically distant from Northern and Western Europeans and populations from the Near East and Caucasus. On the greatest distance from Proto-Bulgarians are Volga-Ural and Arabic populations." The study further mentions that "...proto-Bulgarians are genetically similar to modern Bulgarians and to certain South-Eastern European as well as Italian populations."[212][dubious - discuss] NOPE
@@nikosx6905 dont teach me my own history Bulgars were indo iranic tribes we didnt speak a turkic language and we didnt worship tangra we were zoroastrians plus the gagauz are a different type of turkish speaking Bulgarian muslims they arent separate from regular Bulgarians genetically the modern idea that Bulgarians were turkic was created by the soviet union to be able to undermine their Bulgarian population and to refuse to acknowledge them and to remove any nationalism from them this is supported by KGB documents I am no longer in possession of but it is true that Bulgarians today are genetically not mostly Bulgar we even lost our original language and religion
@Obicham BG it's from sources which you can find on the sources tab, also it doesn't need so much brain to see that bulgarians aren't Thracians, that's ridiculous and angaist history
for Thracian what say historians.... Xenophon, he informs us that the Thracians regarded themselves as relatives of the Ionians (Cyrus Anasazi, Z31). The fact that the inhabitants of Thrace were Greeks is confirmed by Flavius Claudius Julianus who says: the inhabitants of Thrace are descended from Greece book(ΛΟΓΟΣ paragraph 12,17) other prove is inscription in the museum of the Pliska of Northern Bulgaria in the 9th century AD.the inscription write in this area, Greeks lived.
dude if using greek names and I am meaning 'thacian' and 'illyrians' and you are albanian then you are albanian and you have no connection with illyrians.
@Maria Safari Fard The Guida is ancient Greek instrument and not SlavoTatar.You just have it from Byzantine empire.You have no relationship with the Greeks-Thracians.
Maria Safari Fard The first Greeks were the mycenaeans and minoans. They came from around the Mediterranean and settled the islands and then on Greek land. Later on they were known as hellenes and Greeks. They came from the other side of the Mediterranean with Egyptian religious customs. That’s why the main Y DNA haplogroup of Greece today is E1b1b (North Africa). When they arrived on Greek land, the Thracians, Illyrians Macedonians Dardanians and others were already living in the Balkans. All these people had the i2 original and oldest Balkan DNA. Thracians Illyrians and Macedonians are closely related and distant brothers living on the Balkan Peninsula. If we were SLAVS we would have the R1a haplogroup. 49% of the people in Bulgaria are descendants of Thracians and less are related to the Bulgar khans like khan krum khan telerig khan asperuch.
@Obicham BG Bro, you are the slavs who inhabited common lands in Novgorod region along with Baltic people. Maybe you are mixed with thracians, but not as much as you think. Till the slavic arrival in the 8th century A.D. we don’t really have mentions about Thracian people.
But who said they’re full Slavs. Bro the only Thracian population who continued to inhabit the Bulgarian lands were the Vlachs, the latter having a similar language to today’s romanian. Maybe you’re thracian too if you mixed with Vlachs.
@Obicham BG I don’t want to be mean, but it’s weird to see how someone claims something that it’s not correct. It wouldn’t interest me if it wouldn’t be about my country’s history. If this video was about berbers, I wouldn’t say anything.
Volga is a modern name long after Bulgaria! 🤣 Rather, Bogaria (Bulgaria) translates from God (Бог) Aria (Ария - the old name of Thrace). Birthplace of the god Ares - Ari (Ярък - Bright). Father of Amazons, Getae, Cimmerians, Scythians, Huns (Massagetes - Moesians and Getae) - BulgArians. The Bulgarians have been called 1000 years - Moesians, peons, myrmidons, Scythians and Huns! 90% of Bulgarian DNA is Thracian! Thracians is a Danaus-Greek-Ethiopian exonym! The Thracian Pelasgians and Leleges are pre-Greek populations! The Leleges are the fathers of Spartans and Carians! 😎
Yes, they are slavs, but never think that slavs are with white hair and speak Russian! When thracians called themselves "slavs" , russians have other names! Russians were not called themselves "slavs" in this time!
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What you say is the official false story supported by the Bulgarian enemies. Indeed only Bulgarians today can walk on fire ( nestinari ) which is ancient Thracian tradition. That is why the modern historians often avoid this fact and not only this.
+lazia cus The Bulgars (also Bulghars, Bulgari, etc.) were semi-nomadic warrior tribes of Turkic extraction who flourished in the Pontic-Caspian steppe and the Volga region during the 7th century.
+lazia cus Ha it's clear now that you're trolling me. Alexander never lost a battle, he easily conquered 99% of the known world before he died. And if the Bulgars were Iranian then how are they native Thracians. It's impressive how many delusional inaccuracies you fit into that comment.
Bulgarians has always been there. Paid historians looked for their origin all over the world except where it was. I will ask you a simple question which you can answer if you traveled around the world. Have you seen a mongol with curly hair :)
Bulgarians and Tracians is the same. Slavs came to use somewhere in 17th century and is just as fake as the greek nation. Greece never existed until the same that time. They were like immigrants in the Thracian empire(roman empire) and are of Jewish origin, although at that time there has started a great manipulations in history and most of the people were already not aware of their recent history. Nowadays only the Bulgarians call Istanbul - Kingstown, this has remained in their mythology and ancient songs because it was their king that used to live there. There are people in Bulgaria that can walk on fire, which was a Thracian tradition. These people used to be chased during the communism and were forbidden to do this, because the communism was jewish creation either. Just recently a few started to do it again. The modern historians in Bulgaria, which are paid by some American Soros organizations hate these facts. Jews using the muslims conquered that part of the world in the 14th century and destroyed all books and monuments they could get their hands on. There are myths and songs in Bulgaria which speak of that it was jewish organized and that kept from mouth to mouth for more than 6 centuries. Same with the jewish created ISIS now, who is destroying historical museums in Syria full of muslim history. If they are of muslim religion then why would they do it? If you put some effort to read the Kur'an you will be surprised to find that Moses was mentioned 50 times more than Allah. It is written more about the jews than the muslim. It is a book written by the jews, same like the new testament. If you look for logic in modern history you will not find it, because it is not real.
@@user-sm5rt5ic6e you are stupid right? turkic people came from the far east and settled and mixed up with the populations in anatolia and balkan peninsula.
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HERE WE GO AGAIN. Thracians were ancient tribe. Slavs were medieval tribe. SO slavs can't be thracians. Thracians were Greeks.You can read that in both Homer and Herodotus and many ancient and modern historians. The whole Greek nations including the thracians were Pelasgians. The only reason that Slavs claim the ancient heritage of the Greeks is because they own former Greek lands. As far as the dna is concerned , greek dna gets to have more than 95% similiraty with the ancient greeks. I am talking about ethnic Greeks of course. If Slavs get to have thracian dna, up to some point, is because during the byzantine history (eastern roman empire) some Slavs got mixed with Greeks. The emperor of the time could not beat them due to many issues so he let them live in the northern borders of the empire and gave them thanks to Kirilos and Methodios (1/2 greeks, 1/2 slavs) an alphabet, the so called slavic and taught them the orthodox christian religion. So that they can stay in the empire without causing problems.Anyway, during the 2 Balkan war, Greek and the fighting Slavs all fought each other and Greece of course did not manage to reach its ancient borders. That is why ancient Greek lands are now belonging to Slavs. That means that many Greek antiquities are now in the slavic hands. that does not mean that the Slavs created the antiquities since as i mentioned before they came around the 8 th centuryA.C. if i recall correctly- during medieval times. Cheers. i do not have an issue with any tribe at all but please, do not "rape " history.
@Obicham BG bro i do not know a single greek suggesting other than the bulgarians are slavs. Of course Slavs descent through medieval times. All historians know it. even if someone says that thracians r not Greeks they are surely not Slavs because as you said, thracians are ancient tribe and Bulgarians/Slavs are medieval. Also i do not know even a single geneticist from harvard or elsewhere suggesting that you have thracian DNA. if that happens it is kinda make sense cause there where many wars between you and us during 8th century and even you got conquered by Byzantines(during the reign of basileios bulgaroktonos) meaning that there were probably some mixes.(by the way no modern Greek claims Bulgarian land). On the other hand there are many genetists that prove, they do not suggest, they prove! the DNA heritage of Greeks. Also i do not know about your ancient city and your ancient gold but i guarantee you that 1stly we do not give a shit (he have nothing to be jealous of and on the contrary we admire other ancient tribes like the Egyptians or the Chinese ) and secondly ,since you are medieval tribes, they are not yours. you just happen to live nowadays where thracians used to live. finally the only reason you claim to be thracians is the same reason that the other slavs, the " north macedonias" claim to be macedonians. you both want to steal greek land. political reasons you see.all the nonsense of you thinking to be ancient tribes started during ww2 . in my opinion you should make 1 state with the Slavs of the fake macedonia, call it Bulgaria or anything you want, and stick to your medieval legacy culture etc. there is no way you are ancient. it is not something bad. you are just not. ps1 greek language before the hellenistic period was not the same in all places, that is way many greek historians called other greeks as barabrians (i think Xenophon was one of them) ( cause they did not fully understand what the others say) ps 2 we do not claim that the whole world is greek , but of course ancient greeks where almost everywhere for sure.As far as the ancient thracians tell me just one thing. why did they use the greek alphabet and had greek names if they were not greeks? xD ps3 sorry bro , but the propaganda is all on your side
@Loco Loco , we were always here, we didn't came from Africa or India. Slavs were not even mentioned anywhere until recent times , when someone decided to hide or steal our history. Don't trust mainstream history. Some Bulgars came and said to the people here "Let's make a country" and the others replied "Sure, why not, and lets name it after you because you are so cool" Yeah, right! Our DNA is over 90% Thracian. Bulgarians are Thracians and some of our neighbors are too. People here knew Jesus long before he was physically born... our history is the most corrupted one in the whole world! The oldest bible is ours (Besica) , yet it is kept from us in England. The russians didin't came to free us, they came when they saw the empire was already too weak, just to burn libraries and went house to house to get all the books and knowledge just to take it back to Russia with 40! trains filled with books, all that to hide that all they have, all they are they got from us, to hide that if it wasnt for us who gave them faith and alphabet they would still be quaking in the bushes. Also we did pay with gold to Russia for coming here to "liberate" us. Slavs are not country or people from 1 country its just about language, Slav comes from Slovo (words) and we gave it to them, because this is our purpose - to teach ... Everything is corrupted, even things like Istoriq Slavqnobulgarska is actually Slavno - Bulgarska. Every little detail is carefully changed and corrupted, so we never know who we really are. Bulgarians went all over the world to teach people how to live, to give them knowledge. There were many Empires that were started by Bulgarians , yes our history was hidden but you can find a lot of info in other countries ancient sources. They can hide history but they can't hide all the toponyms that Bulgarians left all over the world. You will find "Bol, Bal, Bql" etc. everywhere . Wherever Bulgarians went they left a white city behind them. Even the name Bolkans comes from that. And lets not forget that most roman emperors were Thracian. You will find even mountains called after Bulgaria in Italy.
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These female figures are the same as in ancient biggest cult center - Tanagra or Tangra in Beotia in today's environment of middle Greece that the Greeks have repeatedly burned him!
Bulgarians, I don’t want to be mean to you, but you are not Thracians. You are slavic people, which slavs inhabited the Novgorod lands with Baltic people. Slavs came in Bulgaria in the 8th century A.D.
@Obicham BGjust look a ancient Greek map u will see thrace. In ancient times Thrace has a greek kingdoms coins Launguge. Bulgars don't exist in ancient times... and yes many in ancient Greece hated Thrace but in ancient Greece many laws were enemies between them like Aetolia with Macedonia or Athens with Sparta.. of course over the years Thrace has been divided and has mixed with many peoples today you consider a place both Bulgarian and Turkish. but Thrace is a child of Greece
@Obicham BG ok obviously in such discussions they are held with fanaticism on both sides. ........ so I pass back what I said that Thrace belongs to us 100% but you can not say that it is 100% Bulgarian, it is scientifically proven that later the Greeks created a colony mainly on the beaches of Thrace and they founded kingdoms, and were incorporated whenever there is also Greek Thrace.
@Obicham BG ok it was very stupid i can say sorry for that. however, it is known that the Greeks have left colonies all over the Mediterranean almost .. in another theme I also hate these Bulgarians and Albanians who say that Macedonia belongs to them, especially the ancient one !!!
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according to Ellis (1861) through language analysis we observe that under the names of Phrygians, Thracians, Pelasgians and Etruscans spread westward from Armenia to Italy and Elis claimed that the closest affinities of the Aryan element are the Armenians ..other historians that agree are..Hellenthal, Busgy, Brand, Wilson, Myers and Falush...
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BECAUSE THEY WAITED FOR THE GREEKS TO GIVE THEM AN ALPHABET SO THEY CAN MAKE THEIR OWN LANGUAGE... THEY SPOKE A GREEK DIALECT. LIKE IN MODERN DAY AMERICA WHERE WE HAVE A SOUTHERN DIALECT OF ENGLISH AND A NORTHERN DIALECT AND SO ON.... THAT'S ALL IT WAS... THESE PEOPLE CALLED THRACIANS WERE OF GREEK DESCENT... MORE PROMINENT GREEKS OF THE DAY LIKE THE ATHENIANS AND SPARTANS DIDN'T CONSIDER THEM GREEKS BECAUSE THEY WERE BENEATH THEM OR NOT AS EDUCATED !!!! THAT WAS THEIR LOGIC BACK THEN BUT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT THEY WERE GREEK ORIGIN PEOPLES !!!
@@svetoslavtodorov2507 not at all. both using Greek alphabet , believing in the greek common gods, have Greek heroes, participated in Trojan war, had Greek names (ORPHEUS, DIONYSUS) e.t.c. since they were at the northern parts of Greeks and had communications with barbarians they were the most barbaric of the Greeks. after all both Greeks and thracians were Pelasgians. Slavs were medieval and have been using the cyrrilic alphabet since they got conquered by the eastern Romans (Byzantines).
I found that thracian people called thracians by greeks are actually etruscian people. i will tell you why am i right . Because if you make your own research to the treasures found in my country Bulgaria you will understand. Here were found the oldest golden book of etruscian people. Thracians are from Asia, so etruscans tooo. They are the same people. Here in Bulgaria were found the oldest golden treasure in the world. So you can make your own research about connection between these "two" people etruscians and "thracians". I am not scientist, but i am unterested about ancient history and archeology so i had red a lot of information.
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I shit on you, malaka, and it's great you bitch like this because you will never possess the great Thracian material heritage. Turkoglou Mikra Asia hairy bastard.
Can you tell me one emperor with Greece origin from Byzantium empire? Where I can see somewhere to read Byzantium Emperor with Greek Origin or from Greece?
@@Gkogkas Which story? The fake one? That the Danaus Greco came from Africa, about which Homer writes more than 200 times. The Danaus Greeks are stealing name Ellinas from the Thracian-Pelsgians and their priestly tribe (S)elli ! In which the Bulgarians are mentioned as myrmidons from Malala, and Tsets adds that the Bulgarians that is myrmidons, are also peons. That Jerome the Blessed in his map from 380 year has noted - Moesia, also Bulgaria. That the Greeks have been calling us for 1100 years - Moesians, Getae with a new name (Slavs), Massagetes, Huns, Scythians, Myrmidons and Peons. You Greeks never buried your kings with horses and dogs in a tomb as the Thracians and Bulgarians did. You have never shaved your heads like Thracians and Bulgarians. Go read - malaka!
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Greek history: the richest and oldest Neighbor's: it's for me? Btw ask yourself, why is it always direct borders neighbor's? Why do you always claim Greek history that is on your border's? The mainland was never claimed, you Slavs always dreamed of the agean, but you should be happy you aren't back to your land, Russia. Btw you have no proof, you just fooling yourself that your something more than a Slav.
actually, trace is not greece, oldest it is not as well, Aegyptus is older, shumer, iranian and so on. greeks have made up a lot of their history as well to justify their actions (that is done by a lot of nations, Rome did it too).
@@naidenromanov3050 other than your eye ripping English what you say is complete bullshit with 0 proof's, you can say you're an alien, without proof that's bullshit and laughable.
@Obicham BG Main article: Genetic studies on Bulgarians According to a triple analysis - autosomal, mitochondrial and paternal - of available data from large-scale studies on Balto-Slavs and their proximal populations, the whole genome SNP data situates Bulgarians in a cluster with Romanians, Macedonians and Gagauzes, and they are at similar proximity to Montenegrins and Serbs.[61] The Bulgars (also Bulghars, Bulgari, Bolgars, Bolghars, Bolgari,[1] Proto-Bulgarians[2]) were Turkic semi-nomadic warrior tribes that flourished in the Pontic-Caspian steppe and the Volga region during the 7th century. They became known as nomadic equestrians in the Volga-Ural region, but some researchers say that their ethnic roots can be traced to Central Asia.[3] During their westward migration across the Eurasian steppe, the Bulgar tribes absorbed other ethnic groups and cultural influences in a process of ethnogenesis, including Indo-European, Finno-Ugric and Hunnic tribes.[4][5][6][7][8][9] Modern genetic research on Central Asian Turkic people and ethnic groups related to the Bulgars points to an affiliation with Western Eurasian populations.[9][10][11] The Bulgars spoke a Turkic language, i.e. Bulgar language of Oghuric branch.[12] They preserved the military titles, organization and customs of Eurasian steppes,[13] as well as pagan shamanism and belief in the sky deity Tangra.[14] The Bulgars became semi-sedentary during the 7th century in the Pontic-Caspian steppe, establishing the polity of Old Great Bulgaria c. 630-635, which was defeated by the Khazar Empire in 668 AD. In c. 679, Khan Asparukh conquered Scythia Minor, opening access to Moesia, and established the Danubian Bulgaria - the First Bulgarian Empire, where the Bulgars became a political and military elite. They merged subsequently with established Byzantine populations,[15][16] as well as with previously settled Slavic tribes, and were eventually Slavicized, thus forming the ancestors of modern Bulgarians.[17] The origin and language of the Bulgars has been the subject of debate since around the start of the 20th century. It is generally accepted that at least the Bulgar elite spoke a language that was a member of the Oghur branch of the Turkic language family, alongside the now extinct Khazar and the solitary survivor of these languages, Chuvash.[167][177][178][179][180][181] A comparative genetic study shows the Bulgarians primarily represented by the Western Eurasian Y haplogroups, with 40% belonging to haplogroups E-V13 and I-M423, and 20% to R-M17 (R-M198 and R-M458). Haplogroups common in the Middle East (J-M172, J-M267, and G-M201) and in South Western Asia (R-L23*) occur at frequencies of 19% and 5%, respectively. Haplogroups C, N and Q together occur at the negligible frequency of only 1.5% among Bulgarians.[188] A 2015 Bulgarian study found that Bulgars were "genetically distant from Northern and Western Europeans and populations from the Near East and Caucasus. On the greatest distance from Proto-Bulgarians are Volga-Ural and Arabic populations." The study further mentions that "...proto-Bulgarians are genetically similar to modern Bulgarians and to certain South-Eastern European as well as Italian populations."[212][dubious - discuss] My nation created history, we try to represent it as accurate as we can, the propaganda comes only from people who have to gain something from it, you want to reach the Aegean that ain't a secret, you especially as a bulgarian you can't talk about history while your fellow confused bulgarians of vardaska claim they are Macedonians and descendants of Alexander the Great, which is truly a crazy propaganda that every educated people can see, we know that you wish to be Thracian but that ain't the case and no, Thracians aren't older neither better, we consider them Greek because they were part of Greek kingdom's and culture for many years and many Thracians are Hellenized (Greco-thracian) living in Greece and considering themselves GREEK, of course there are bulgarians that trace back to the Thracians but that can't be said for all of the country (when the bulgarians came there was probably a Thracian population remaining which mixed with some of the bulgarians), it's not the first time something like this happens and not the only country that does that and as i said, it's all our neighbors who claim stuff like that, for example, because turkey is in sometime Hittites land they think they are Hittites and natives to Anatolia, which is laughable when it's well known and proven that they came from central Asia after the Hittites and even Roman's, that's how you sound to us, because you are in the lands of Thracians doesn't make you Thracians, unlike you, Harvard university has proven that today Greeks are the same as the Minoans and Mycenaean by analysing ancient Greek skeletons from different parts of Greece with today Greeks from different parts of Greece, so you can't doubt us, we literally speak the same language as the ancient Greeks and we can understand 3000 year's old text's, you speak Slavic, there are many proof's and examples, but your ignorance im sure won't let you give up on ignoring your actual race and culture and looking to be something else, embrace your bulgarian history and let the propaganda for the vardaskans who are worldwide clowns.
The Bulgarians have 3 main Ancestors the Bulgars or as some call em the Proto-Bulgarians the Seven Slavic Tribes and the Thracians the Thracians weren't Greek they were their own thing entirely and eventually mixed in with the Slavic tribes and with the Bulgars mixing to create modern day Bulgarians we're quite mixed people's really the Thracians are now Bulgarians and they were never Greek but I understand some of the history stealing that your neighbours do like with Macedonia but overall Thracians are along with the Seven Slavic Tribes and with the Bulgars they're all Bulgarians
@@nikosx6905 well everything you wrote is fucking trash btw. Nobody cares to steal a fucked up history like that of the greeks. BUT Thracians were not greeks and they don't come from the son of Ares u fucktard, Also Macedonians werent full greek either. Even the Pelasginas were not greek since Homer distinguished them from the greeks at that time! Eastern Roman Empire wasn't greek either! Had greeks in it as many other nations you trash.
Turkic are asian looking people who live in Asia and "Slavic" is not ethnicity but a modern term made by the Russian Empire and not a single historical evidence mention such a people or confirm their existance....so try again to make some sense please
Slavs is the new name of the the Getae. The Bulgarians are Moesians and Getae, the Russians are the Vitins, the Serbs the Illyrians, the Romanians the Dacians, the northern Macedonians the Peons, the Italians the Etruscan Meons. Start reading my friend, everything is documented from end to beginning. Slavic language is Thracian-Pelesgian linear A and B which is one to one of the Bulgarian Moesian runes, so-called Glagolitic, improved Cyrillic. See Bulgarian runes and Bulgarian rosette from Pliska and linear B! All Slavic peoples (the Getae) have Thracian roots, plus Romanians, and are brothers and sisters.
Bulgarians aren't at all under any circumstances descendant of Thracians. You guys came to Moesia and Thrace in 681 A.D, Thracians were Romanized Thraco-Romans by that time. Modern Romanians are descendant of them
@@ds-on4sm I didn't write that Romans are Thracians, your comment shows you have no knowledge of the matter. Thracians got Romanized when Sapaean Kingdom was fully annexed by Roman Empire in 46 A.D, a process of Romanization started, and a new Thraco-Roman culture and people emerged in the former Thracian lands. Those people eventually became the modern Romanian people. Bulgars came to Europe as a semi-nomadic people from the Eurasian steppe and came in Moesia in 681 A.D, by that time Thracians were Romans
@@InAeternumRomaMater No, no . Our official history is crap. Done on purpose. To make us invaders in our own land. Thracians became Scythians. We had countries in the Steppe, too. But those were all Thracians. Not new people. Romanians are Dacians.
@@ds-on4sm You have no idea what "Thraco-Romans" are and you come here telling me I don't know History? What a joke you are. The History of Bulgarians is very well written based on actual documents written by the Byzantines, you came from the Volga river as a Bulgar-Oghur people. Your first contact with the region of Moesia was in 681 A.D, when you found your first Kingdom. Thereafter, in the Haemus Mountains (Modern Balkan Mountains in Bulgaria) Thraco-Roman language (Proto-Romanian) was written as a Romance speaking people, and two words are documented that do not exist in the Bulgarian language, but do in Carphato-Romanian and Aromanian language. And there are the words "Torna" and "Fratre" meaning "Turn back/come back" and "brother". They come from Latin Tōrno and Frāter. They are documented in Theophylactus Simocatta Histories (c.630) but talks about the years of 587 A.D and in Theophanes Confessor Chronographia (c.814). The words are still in modern day Carphato-Romanian and Aromanian language and they are: "Torna"=Aromanian "Tornu" in Carphato-Romanian the definition has change but with a relative same word and it is "Toarnă" now meaning to "pour" but meant "Turn back" in the Old Romanian language, and the word "Fratre" in Carphato-Romanian "Frate" and same in Aromanian. In both sources mentions the native people of the former Thracian Kingdom as a Romance speaking group. Prior to the Bulgars. Why there's no words in Bulgarian from the Thraco-Romans? And Vlachs (Romanians) are mentioned living in the Haemus Mountains by the Xth-XIIIth Century, and there's still a minority Romanian population in Bulgaria in the Balkan Mountains calling themselves now "Vlachs". The only reason you claim "oUr hIsToRy iS cRaP, dOnE oN pUrPoSe. tO mAkE uS iNvAdErs iN oUr oWN LaNd", is because you are a conspiracy theorist and try to make your own History greater as a classic nationalist. Romanians aren't Dacians, we are Latins, we are Thraco-Romans
Thracians are not bulgarians.dna in 2015 has proven from a thracian tomb that bulgarians are not thracians they have the dna of eb1.the word bulgar comes from the turkish language it was a turkish tribe .the bulgarians today are slavnic an turkish.that is a fact
that is not true,the bulgar tribe wich is turkish assimulated the slavs in bulgaria,the thracians pre date modern bulgarians,bulgaria was under the slavs very early,,an the bulgar tribe assimulated them,hence today bulagrains are turks an slavs, 681 loool thracians are thousands of years older than 681
Истината за най-голямата лъжа за нас е пред очите ни! ... Истината за България разчупва оковите и преобръща света! .... при изграждането на Плиска и Преслав В българския фолклор няма тюркски елементи, но пък тракийските изобилстват и това кара етнолога Евгений Теодоров да каже, че ние българите имаме пълното право да се считаме за наследници на траките.
GUYS !! i will talk with evidence .Thracians are greeks. Thracia comes from ancient greek "Θραξ".Θραξ according to ancient greek mythology is the founder of the thracians and was the son of Ares, who was a Greek god. As you see in this video Orfeus , Dionysous etc are Greeks. BOTH ARES AND DIONYSUS ARE 2 /12 olympian gods. Thracians had plenty of same gods with the rest of the Greeks, they believed in the same pantheon. Even from the video you can understand that.. ORFEUS is an ancient Greek mythological hero as well => "Ορφευς" . ALSO Spartacus=> greek name as well "Σπαρτακος".If you get to learn ancient greek language you will find evidence both glossological that prove that thracians are greeks.Also all the paintings you see in this video are made exactly like the greek style. guess why xD. Also all this indoeuropean theory is bullshit. it has been proven by the german geographer mullen (if i spell that correctly)and many more archeologists that there were here in balkania, already some tribes! And it makes sense! why shouldn't be here people as well? anyway search it by yourselves.ALSO! as you probably know ONLY Greeks were taking part in the Olympics. Thracians were taking part.ΙΝ 476 a grappler from marwneia "μαρώνεια" of Thrace was a winner .THAT PROVES THAT THRACIANS WERE GREEKS! el.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%9A%CE%B1%CF%84%CE%AC%CE%BB%CE%BF%CE%B3%CE%BF%CF%82_%CE%B1%CF%81%CF%87%CE%B1%CE%AF%CF%89%CE%BD_%CE%BF%CE%BB%CF%85%CE%BC%CF%80%CE%B9%CE%BF%CE%BD%CE%B9%CE%BA%CF%8E%CE%BD here is the list of ancient greek Olimpic winners look in 476 BC. READ it by yourselves. all these evidence should be enough to convince you that bulgaria has nothing to do with thracia . thracians' etymology , all these words' etymology you listen to the video, and the historical proofs should be enough to convince you that thracians are greeks.IF STILL not enough read ancient greek texts of Ησίοδος, Όμηρος, Έφορος, Στράβων, Σκύμνος, Ηρόδοτος, Μενεκράτης, Παυσανίας, Θουκυδίδης, Ευριπίδης, Αισχύλος, Διονύσιος ο Αλικαρνασσεύς, Αντικλείδης, Πλάτων. i am not sure about the English spelling,search it by yourselves as well, sorry!
The mythology thing is kinda bullshit that's like saying all Orthodox nations are the same they're not and it's a Greek word because surprise surprise that's how the Greeks called em Thracians are one of the main Bulgarian ancestors along with the seven Slavic tribes and the Bulgars they were their own thing and now they are Bulgarians we're a mixture of multiple people's that make a whole new ethnic group that simple
@@wankawanka3053 Bulgarians have the most Thracian DNA, and the most Cultural traditions along with the most of the Thracian inhabited lands of antiquity. You also seem to forget the Thracians didn't just Inhabit what we call Thrace today but also Lower Moesia along with Pirin Macedonia and the Rhodope region in general. All regions today inhabited by the closest descendants of the Thracians, the Bulgarians.
@@moses6358 no? Sure the language died out but their unique culture didn't and it remained till the Bulgars and Slavs arrived. Also no they did not move south, that's just massive coping.
Bulgarian are not Thracian, Eastearn Gheg Albanian are the true descendant of the Thracian, in middle age Illyrian and Thracian migrated for cause of the Slavo-bulgarian invasion, Illyrians migrated to the south, Thracian to the west and the mixing of 2 indigenous culture born the Gheg Albanians. That is historical fact not nazionalist message.
Yeah...that thing you claim is a "historical fact"...it hasn't been proven. Makes it more of a nationalist message. The only thing that has been proven is that the Thracians were assimilated as one of the "primary ancestral groups of modern Bulgarians." Maybe you should stick to historical sources and not something that you heard in a drunk conversation down at the bar.
Go back to school ignorant, historically documented by several Byzantine historians of the time the massive migration of the Thracian to the west of the Balkans due to the Bulgarian invasion, then you are mistaken on a point above all "assimilation" in reality the Bulgarians are They were mixed with the Thracians (those remaining in the native land) and being fewer than the natives were genuinely and culturally assimilated (the original Bulgarians are a population of uralic origin and hence turkish culture), identity remained Bulgarian but its uses and Clearly pelasgic costumes, you have never casualized how much the dances, the music and the traditional costumes to the Albanian ones are, because Bulgarian "scholars" try and try to translate the ancient Thracian inscriptions but have not been able to " Deciphering "their language, while using Albanian as a basic language all becomes clearer and the beautiful that these discoveries keep them hidden in so the truth the Albanians are the undisputed descendants of the Illyrians, Dacians, Thracians and Hellens remains a secret to hide or a mythological story. Only in Balkans Albanian are Indigenous!
Omar Tota The people that you are referring to as Bulgarians are actually called Bolgars or Bulgars. The modern day citizens of Bulgaria are called Bulgarians. The fact that you are so uneducated and ignorant that you can't properly express yourself just shows how irrelevant your opinion on the matter is. Go learn some fucking history. You have no factual evidence to your claims. The nationalist propaganda that you were force-fed in school has started to become very obvious.
Dear Anastas Gegov, Talk about what you mean meanwhile I'm not offended because I see what you know about history (nothing absolute), make a favor to yourself return to the Pontic steppe.
I just sent you the friend request because I like to know new people, for example I appreciated the clash of minds between you and me where you have to admit that you did not know how to deal with it, remember the south Slavs, Bulgarians and Byzantine Romans ( Modern "Greek" ) are Not Related with Pelasgians ( Illyrians, Dacians, Thracians and Hellens ), the Albanians are the last descendant of Pelasgians.
HAAHAAHHA...The Bulgarians are of Tatar (Mngl) tribe origin and have nothing to do with the Thracians !!!! the Thracians are a Serbian tribe ...Bulgarians are not Slvaistc ...Tatar!!!!
@@klauszimerman4278 Is 'haha' your best response? If you're Serb, please know you speak a broken version of Bulgarian. Remember when Serbia was a part of the Bulgarian empire? Yeah.
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Love to our Thracian brothers 🇧🇬 from the Dacian lands 🇷🇴
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You were speaking Bulgarian till the mid 1900s😂
@@zzdravvkoo retard
@@zzdravvkoo I mean yeah old romanian before the relatinisation was very close to bulgarian.
As a Bulgarian I can actually understand old romanian to an extent. I think the main language in those lands was bulgarian though before
austria and hungary and greek pharonites changed the language
Bulgarians are big part Thracians, most of their nowadays land Is Thracians, so simmer down now people, the modern Bulgarians are a mix of proto Bulgarians, Thracians and Slavs.
Tony James actually the Thracians WERE Slavs according to DNA analysis as were Illyrians as well as ancient Macedonians.
All these people belong to the R1a Slavic Y DNA that genetic analysts say it has been in the Balkans at least 4000 years and most likely originated there.
@@WatchmanofMKDN thracians are not slav you idiot, they are balkan nation.
proto-bulgarians were turkic semi nomadic warriors who come here from siberia like other turkic nations.
@@Email5507 exactly.... and original Thracians were Greek peoples who inhabited those areas
@@WatchmanofMKDN Thracians were not Slav !!! Modern Bulgarians have Greek DNA in them because of their Thracian mix !!!
Bulgarians are mostly Thracian. We are the closest ethnic group to the Thracians. We have saved Thracian traditions (like Nestinarstvo, Kukeri, Martenitsa, etc.).
However, we are Slavic, too. We speak a Slavic language. We have Slavic traditions like Koledari, etc. Our traditional clothes are of Slavic origin (mostly), too.
We have only a bit of Bulgar DNA. Most of what was left from our Bulgar ancestors were symbols like IYI. Music and dance were also significantly influenced by the Bulgars, which explains why our instruments are close to some Asian ones.
We are mixed. The name Bulgaria actually means mixed. We are Thracians, Slavs, and Bulgars mixed together. We are neither strictly Thracian, nor Slavic, nor Bulgar. We are a mix. And that is perfect. Each tribe that has resided on these ancient lands has left a beautiful mark on our culture.
It's perfect to be mixed because that made our culture rich. When the Bulgars arrived in the Balkans, instead of fighting and killing the local Thracian and Slavic tribes, they worked together. They worked together to create this gorgeous nation and culture. They did not exterminate each other. Instead, they lived in peace. Together. The Slavic, Bulgar, Thracian languages and cultures were totally different, but that was okay because they learned to tolerate and love each other.
So, behind our nation lies a beautiful story of collaboration, tolerance, and respect.
Be proud. 🇧🇬
You're amazing. Excellent explanation.. 👌
You are wrong the natives of Thrace suffered a lot from Bulgarians in byzantine times and that's why Bulgarians were treated with a lot of brutality from Basil ll after they fought.
Thracians are Indo-European tribe like Greeks, Lydians, Illyrians why are you claiming their history when you are clearly Balto-Slavic and Tatar country?
@@locoloco3387 you-
Realize Balto-Slavic
Are still Indo-European right?
Also no
Thracians weren't treated badly in the Empire
Well not anymore then the others in the Empire that is
Basil II mostly sought to deal with the Bulgarians now that the Arab front was
Well
Not as much of a point to guard it so might as well deal with what remains of a once great Empire and take your lands back
that was awesome to read, well explained.
Way to go Bulgaria!
The artwork is gorgeous, it's great to see that history is preserved and well kept. I've recently been doing personal digging into the history of Dacians, Thracians, and the many other cultures that existed there. Could just be a pipe dream, but I'd like to visit many places in Europe one day, you have sold me on visiting here
You are welcome to Bulgaria 🇧🇬 our land is a beautiful place, full of mysteries, waiting to be discovered.
It is interesting to think that as a Greek Thracian I share a common ancestry with Bulgarians. This should be something to unite us, as well as Orthodoxy, to develop deeper bonds and to "Push" the unwelcomed off of eastern Thrace
αδερφέ οι Βούλγαροι είναι Σλάβοι, οι αρχαίοι Θράκες δεν είχαν καμία σχέση με τους Βουλγάρους. ο μόνος λόγος που μπορεί να έχουν κάποιες ομοιότητες οφείλεται στο γεγονός ότι ενσωματώθηκαν μια περιόδο (του Βασιλείου το βουλγαροκτόνου και έπειτα) στην ρωμαικη ανατολικη αυτοκρατορία. Οπότε εκει προέκυψαν κάποιοι μεικτοι γάμοι πολυ πιθανον. Κατα τα αλλα η σχεση θρακων και βουλγάρων ειναι μηδαμινή.
@@atreast.4331 The Bulgarians are not just Slavs we have 3 main ancestors Bulgars Slavs and Thracians the main ones being Thracians we adopted many Thracian traditions the Thracians are where we come from our true heritage
@@rawka_7929 The term bulgarian bulgar etc etc did not exist in ancient times. The only common you have with thracians is that you live where they lived. If you happen to have anything else in common is just because when you came in the area there were already Greeks in the area. The only reason you propagandise this thing is in order to expand your boarders to Mediterranean sea just like your Vardaskans brothers do with Macedonia. All this started from the era of WW2 when you wanted to co operate with the Axon. Before that all the bulgarians knew that they had a medieval and afterward history.
@@atreast.4331 no we don't even want the Aegean sea mate and it's no propaganda also I never said those ancestors originated at the same time but they were at the same time and place at once also the Bulgars are believed to be mentioned in Ancient China 4th Century AD as one of the 5 barbarian tribes and also also there is a theory that the Bulgars were Thracians that fled the lands when Alexander The Great wrecked some shit idk how accurate it is if you're interested do research on your own but we can tell ya they were never Greeks they were their own thing 1 of the 3 main ancestors of Bulgarians which makes them oh who would've thought BULGARIANS
@@rawka_7929 exactly, you came from Asia, you are not Europeans. This theory sounds very convenient but it is so proved historically that you got here during the medieval times. Since you mentioned Alexander the great... he used about 5000 thracians in his panhellenic army... wonder why ? Either way the term Bulgar/Bulgarian etc etc has nothing to do with the thracians. Even if we agreed that thracians have nothing to do with Greeks (lol) they are surely not Bulgarians. Bulgarians just live in a former greek territory and had been subjucated for some years by the greeks, (that is why you got alphabet and became christians). That is why you may become a bit thracianized (if indeed you happen to have anything thracian in your blood), but that does not make you thracians. Anyway, i will not convince you , and i am really done with the comments. Believe whatever you want. In the end Turkey will kill us both so it will not mater much xD. Check the Jirikeck line by the way. i think that he was from your country... but i am not sure, i do not really remember..
Im so dissapointed to see so many sick brains in here. Anyway, you are all welcome to visit our country and check the heritage. Cheers guys.
Cheers!
My surname (Tracey) Derived from of the Gaulish male's name Draccios, or Latin Thracius ("of Thrace, Thracian"). So where exactly am I supposed to live in your opinion? Lol
@Obicham BG I am Irish but born in Nova Scotia;) lol. And I believe it's more like ancient people from Turkey= Irish =Thracians = Norman's(not Vikings) IMO .or so my surname tells me.lol Like an east west to east to west again kinda deal;) also..If you compare the burial tombs of the Thracians to the the Irish burial tombs it seems apparent that they are strikingly similar in construction but the Thracian tombs more modern in comparison. DNA does say the Irish originated in Turkey:)
@Obicham BG Dude...look up "Hill of Tara" in Ireland compare to "Gavrinis Goat island" france and again compare to Thracians burials tombs/mounds. And yes ..A 2013 study revealed that many Irish men may be able to trace their roots back to Turkey. Focusing on the role of the Y chromosome, which is passed from father to son, the research indicates Turkish farmers arrived in Ireland about 6,000 years ago, bringing agriculture with them.
@Obicham BG Oh..and I've also read that the Belgae are in fact the Fir Bolg of Irish mythology;) 🍀
Wow. Plasma cosmological iconography everywhere as well as ancient megalithic construction. Ancient peoples indeed!
Balkan people have been mixing for centuries. We all have a bit of everything in us. Pointless to argue. Plus historical sources were always written by the winners. So I wouldn’t believe a Greek source if it says Albanians or Thracians or Macedonians etc have Greek or Turkic genes. At the end of the day we come from humans not even known to us at The this point. We are all human after all. Peace
Bruv, discrediting the real history and people, who are prophets and teachers to all mankind, is just an insult. We are not mixed here, we are Slavic Thracian. The Bulgarian dns matches 60% to Thracians. What ever 40% are, they are not significantly changing our bloodline. Stop talking down on people. Rather respect the truth.
I'm agree with Bulgaria prime minister friendship with Wales forever present
Красивата ни Родина България! ☘️ 🌹 ❤
Who are the Bulgarians?" Ziezi ex quo Vulgares "4th Century Bulgarians are mentioned by the Roman Chronolagy With VU because in Greek language there is no letter" Ъ" and to write it in Greek you have to combine letters to make the sound. Saint Jerome MAP of the Balkans year 354 says Mesia hec & Vulgaria again the greek VU combination to make the bulgarian letter "Ъ". THE MAP IS IN THE LONDON MESEUM TO THIS CURRENT DAY so propanga paid actors on youtube I am very sorry : ) ! Bulgarians are a Thracian Indo-European Tribe formed from the tribe Baracri again mentioned at the year 354 by the author Curtius Rufus considered the strongest ally to Alexander the great. So in conclusion, we were never turkic, nomadic, asian or any of that propaganda bulshit we were on the Balkans and this is where we still are. Herodot writes Balacri "Бългри" as Falcri [1] µέχρι µὲν δὴ τῆς τούτων τῶν Σκυθέων χώρης ἐστὶ ἡ καταλεχθεῖσα πᾶσα πεδιάς τε γῆ καὶ βαθύγαιος, τὸ δ᾽ ἀπὸ τούτου λιθώδης τ᾽ ἐστὶ καὶ τρηχέα. [2] διεξελθόντι δὲ καὶ τῆς τρηχέης χώρης πολλὸν οἰκέουσι ὑπώρεαν ὀρέων ὑψηλῶν ἄνθρωποι λεγόµενοι εἶναι πάντες ἐκ γενετῆς γινόµενοι, καὶ ἔρσενες καὶ θήλεαι ὁµοίως, καὶ σιµοὶ καὶ γένεια ἔχοντες µεγάλα, φωνὴν δὲ ἰδίην ἱέντες, ἐσθῆτι δὲ χρεώµενοι Σκυθικῇ, ζῶντες δὲ ἀπὸ δενδρέων.
I was lucky to visit Bulgaria and see the Etruscan gold treasures in Panagyurishte and Sofia, of which I’ve known from the history books only. I also learned that Thracian kingdom existed much earlier, than a Millenia, ie their art of wine making is about 7K years old!
gees , as a iberian , not long ago i discovered trough my dna test that i belong to bronze age , Hallstatt , thraco-illyrian tribes , today i'm so upset i no longer know what i am , i been living a lie as a iberian
And the Italian professor Sante Gracotti says: “One of the main merits of the Bulgarians is that they kept the Turks away from the heart of Europe for several centuries."
(So much for the" turkic" origin of Bulgarians)
The Romanian Denshianu says that the Romanians lived so long in contact with the Bulgarians, who extended their power beyond the Danube lands, that they owed their civilization to this common life in the Middle Ages.
(and so much for the Romanians claiming our heritage)
"Ancient (proto-) Bulgarians have long been thought of as a Turkic population. However, evidence found in the past three decades shows that this is not the case. Until now, this evidence has not included ancient mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) analysis. To fill this void, we collected human remains from the 8th to the 10th century ad located in three necropolises in Bulgaria: Nojarevo (Silistra region) and Monastery of Mostich (Shumen region), both in northeastern Bulgaria, and Tuhovishte (Satovcha region) in south-western Bulgaria. The phylogenetic analysis of 13 ancient DNA samples (extracted from teeth) identified 12 independent haplotypes, which we further classified into mtDNA haplogroups found in present-day European and western Eurasian populations. Our results suggest a western Eurasian matrilineal origin for proto-Bulgarians, as well as a genetic similarity between proto- and modern Bulgarians. Our future work will provide additional data that will further clarify proto-Bulgarian origins, thereby adding new clues to the current understanding of European genetic evolution."
" Furthermore, the comparison of the occurrence of these haplogroups shows no link between Bulgarians and Altaic and Caucasus populations. Based on the substantial genetic input of proto-Bulgarians to the modern Bulgarian gene pool, the present study confirms the nonexistence of a close Y-chromosomal or mtDNA link between proto-Bulgarians on the one hand and Altaic and Caucasus populations on the other."
"Proto-Bulgarians are positioned among South-Eastern and Southern European populations including modern Bulgarians."
- "Proto-Bulgarians are genetically distant from Northern and Western Europeans and populations from the Near East and Caucasus."
- "On the greatest distance from Proto-Bulgarians are Volga-Ural and Arabic populations."
(We are native to Thrace, we never came from anywhere, not even from another planet, because lately they talk about Aliens where Bulgarians have been present. It's crazy)
Interesting.
modern day Greeks and Bulgarians are all Thracians, it's not the other way around.
for Thracian what say historians.... Xenophon, he informs us that the Thracians regarded themselves as relatives of the Ionians (Cyrus Anasazi, Z31). The fact that the inhabitants of Thrace were Greeks is confirmed by Flavius Claudius Julianus who says: the inhabitants of Thrace are descended from Greece book(ΛΟΓΟΣ paragraph 12,17) other prove is inscription in the museum of the Pliska of Northern Bulgaria in the 9th century AD.the inscription write in this area, Greeks lived.
@Bulgarian Ostrogoth Neither you are thracian you slav. Get a grip of your self.
@19692169 thracians is people from hpeiros and thessaly who moved to area of modern thrace if you read history you read that...
@19692169 bulgarians came in balkan 6 century a,c
@19692169 i read official history not fairytales
that is truth bulgarians came in balkan 6 century a.c
I'm agree with tharcian Celt and Dacian Trajan people's give us fruit
that is what i found in my iberian dna , bronze age HALSTTAT , THRACO - ILLYRIAN DNA whatta fook this is very serious i'm not iberian ? whatta fook history is fake
As I expected balkan comment sections are always fun to read.
Tharcian And Dacian Trajan Celtic people's are handsome man and beautiful woman good place
you are right i'm one of them here i just look at the women face gees look like Iberian
Interesting facts about tharcian Celtic and Dacian people forever ancestors is powerful Moesian Bulgaria
The amount of Anti-Bulgarians on this comment section astounds me from Romanians, to Greeks to even the Turks and Albanians what’s your issue trying to deny our heritage and replace it with your lies that we are a Turkic people it been proven time and time again that we are not Turkic and that we are mixed with Thracian blood. Why do you insist on bringing us down why can’t we be allied together. No brother wars
@@alexeltita hahahaha what ? what reality are you living in bro ? :D:D:D:
No one is Anti Bulgarian just anti bullshit.... every Bulgarian knows today that the Thracians were a Greek people.. Bulgarian people have our DNA and blood mixed with others and that is your new race of people.. You are our brother just you need to recognize facts !! Greeks (Hellenes love Bulgaria brother) and we will always be by your side because you are part of us from within!! Just you need to understand that your DNA is part Greek inside you !!! From the Thracians !!! We love Bulgaria !!! Just let the truth set you free !!!
P Gus please shut the fuck up
Thracians are the Dasa or the Rig Veda and the Dahae of the Avesta. English is an Indo European language of the West Germanic branch. English milk, Tocharian malke, Latin mulgeo, Old Irish melg, Greek amelgo, Russian moloko and so forth.
Linguistic, textual, genetic and archaeological evidence for the Out of India Theory of Indo European Languages
Baghpat Chariots, Weapons and the Horse in the Harappan Civilization - Dr. BK Manjul
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Findings from the latest genetic study conducted by ASI in collaboration with the Reich Lab at Harvard using ancient DNA from Rakhigarhi
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Here are the tribes that spread the Indo European languages from South Asia to West Asia, Central Asia and to Europe
Avestan) Afghanistan: Proto-Iranian: Sairima (Śimyu), Dahi (Dāsa).
NE Afghanistan: Proto-Iranian: Nuristani/Piśācin (Viṣāṇin).
Pakhtoonistan (NW Pakistan), South Afghanistan: Iranian: Pakhtoon/Pashtu (Paktha).
Baluchistan (SW Pakistan), SE Iran: Iranian: Bolan/Baluchi (Bhalāna).
NE Iran: Iranian: Parthian/Parthava (Pṛthu/Pārthava).
SW Iran: Iranian: Parsua/Persian (Parśu/Parśava).
NW Iran: Iranian: Madai/Mede (Madra).
Uzbekistan: Iranian: Khiva/Khwarezmian (Śiva).
W. Turkmenistan: Iranian: Dahae (Dāsa).
Ukraine, S, Russia: Iranian: Alan (Alina), Sarmatian (Śimyu).
Turkey: Thraco-Phrygian/Armenian: Phryge/Phrygian (Bhṛgu).
Romania, Bulgaria: Thraco-Phrygian/Armenian: Dacian (Dāsa).
Greece: Greek: Hellene (Alina).
Albania: Albanian: Sirmio (Śimyu).
Shrikant Gangadhar Talageri
talageri.blogspot.com/2020/03/the-rigveda-and-aryan-theory-rational_27.html
Five waves of Indo-European expansion: a preliminary model (2018)
Igor A Tonoyan-Belyayev
I. Tonoyan-Belyayev
www.academia.edu/36998766/Five_waves_of_Indo-European_expansion_a_preliminary_model_2018_
@All Knowing 369 Thank you for the advice. Some of it is worth following. I am only talking about Greek as a language not the Greek people themselves. People can change languages without really changing much else.
The Bulgarian title "Kan"( eng.- Khan ) mean "king". The all name of the title is" KanasuBigi", "u Bigi" ( from the God ), "as" ( I (have) ), "Kan" ( the power ), that title exist even in Sumer. So "Kan" means king,lord,ruler an also kingdom,land and that title is not from Asia. "Bal", "bul", "bel" means "white", the old name of Thracians is "Belazgi"( the Danaians call them "Pelasgi" ) and that name means "Bel"( white ), "azgi" ( people ) . After that they call himselfs "Thracians" and "Bulgarians" ( Bul - white, Arians - people ), even Herodotus write for the Thracians and for the Bulgarians like for one people. Balkan ( Bal-Kan ) means "kan" - kingdom,land and "bal" - white, "the land of the whites". Balkans are the homeland of the White race. The chosen nation from the Bible is the White race, the Belazgians, and they give the culture to the other nations ( races ), so the influence is from here-there, not from there-here. The name "Bulgarians" is from the thracian tribe Getae( Geti ), the Bulgarian king dynasty is from that tribe, Atila is one of the kings. The other names of Getae are Goths, Scythians, Sklavins, Huns. Mongolians get the name Khan from the Bulgarians and they are crossbreed between Bulgarians and Koreans.
Im are Wallachia ancestors is Dacian Trajan Celtic and tharcian people's is win successful like us .
Country: Oh I have an interesting history yay Greeks: Oh nice... MINE
Greek history: interesting. Other nations with no history at all : MINE
The fact where these ancient tombs are is an undisputable fact which land these kings inhabited.Bulgaria. They were not attracted by the scorching wasteland of Greece. Greece was just the port harbor of the Balkans.
@@borisagayn4959 yes but Bulgarians came there later
DK gamers thats the thing, the idea is to debunk this idea, because its not true
@@tangra681d2 Bulgarians came here in the 7th century
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Here some middle ages proofs about that.. Joannes Zonaras (12th century):
"[...] Paeonians - Latins or Thracian people, Macedons. These are so-called Paeonians. Paeonians are Bulgarians [...]"
Johannes Tzetzes (12th century):
"[...] The Paeonians are Bulgarians [...]"
Gilo Tusculanus (11th century):
"[...] Bulgarians who are named Thracians according to the previous (older) monuments [...]"
John Malalas (6th century):
"[...] Achilles left with the Atreidai, bringing his own army of 3000 of the men known then as Myrmidons but known now as Bulgars [...]"
Michael Attaleiates (11th century):
"[...] The Moesi are certainly Bulgarians who later received their new name. [...] the Bulgarians are the Myrmidons [...]"
Joan Ekzarh (10th century):
"[...] The Thessalian Myrmidons of Achilles are Bulgarians [...]"
Flavius Magnus Aurelius Cassiodorus Senator (5th century):
"[...] The Bulgarians are old Moesian or Illyrian people [...]"
Magnus Felix Ennodius (6th century):
"[...] The Bulgarians are old Moesian or Illyrian people [...]"
Demetrios Chomatenos (13th century):
"[...] This Great father and enlightener of Bulgaria was from the European Moesians by origin, which the people usually know also as Bulgarians [...]"
Anastasius Bibliothecarius (4th century):
"[...] The Bulgarians have united their homeland in accordance to their blood right [...]"
Leo the Deacon (10th century):
"[...] For the Byzantines, the words Moesians, Scythians, and Bulgarians mean the same thing, they use them as synonymes [...]
V-VI century
- Ioannes Malalas: "The so called Achilles went with Atreidai and led his own army of three thousand men, then called Myrmidons and now Bulgarians" - page 97 www.documentacatholicaomnia.eu/03d/0491-0578,_Ioannes_Malalas,_Chronographia_(CSHB_Dindorfii_Recensione),_GR_LT.pdf picture from the text in Greek: facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150315761464099&set=o.122376701166845&type=1&theater
- Michael Attaleiates: History - ''the Moesi ... are certainly Bulgarians who later received their new name ... Bulgarians Myrmidons ..."
- John Zonaras: ''Paeonians - Latins or Thracian people of Macedonia. These are so-called Paeonians. Paeonians were Bulgarians. "
- Johannes Tzetza: ''Pyros and Akamas (native) of the Thracian Hellespont, Maronietza Evfimos son of Treziius, Pirehmie, who was of the Paeonians they were all from the Bulgarians, from those of the river Axios, also called Vardar'' (see photo with Greek text).
XI century
- ''Bulgarians who are named Thracians according to the previous (old) monuments'' - „Hinc iter aggressi per fines Vulgariorum, quos vocitant Thracas, ut habent monumenta priorum“ - Fulcher of Chartres, a French priest, (a description of the first crusade in 1096)
III-IV century
- Mavro Orbin cites evidence of Marcus Aurelius Kasiodor that Bulgarians fought with the Romans about 390 AD.
- Cassiodorus writes that the Bulgarians are old Moesian or Illyrian people
- Ennodius Ticinensis (473-524, Bishop, court historian of the Gothic King Theodoric) indicate that Bulgarians are old Moesian and Illyrian people.
- 4th century map (see photo) by St. Jerome (331-420) - Mesia hec & Vulgaria (Misia here and Bulgaria). It is composed by even older maps - Bishop Eusebius of Caesarea (270 to 33, called the "father of church history." The map is preserved in a copy of the 12th century. letopisec.blog.bg/photos/123281/original/Karta_Ieronim_4_vek22222.jpg
I-II century
-Flavius Josephus writes ''Dacians called Bulgarians''
In addition:
- Ravennatis Anоnymi Cosmographia: „Inter vero Tratiam vel Macedoniam et Mysiam inferiorem modo Bulgari habitant, qui ex super scripta maiore Scythia egressi sunt.” upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/Karte_Ravennat.jpg
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- Demetrios Chomateno: Brief Life of Clement Ohridski - ''This great Father was a native from the European Moesians, people usually known as Bulgarians. They were displaced in the old days by the military power of Alexander of placement of Brusa, Olympus to the North Atlantic and the Dead Sea, and after a long time with terrible army crossed the Danube and invaded all the neighboring areas: Pannonia and Dalmatia, Thrace and Illyricum, and and much of Macedonia and Thessaly
Slavic invented propaganda. Slavic people came from the Baltic Sea in the Middle Ages. That’s it, you don’t have to be ashamed of being a slav.
@@davidmark225 It's not propaganda it's true. I'm proud to be thracian/bulgarian! 😎
@@fonthracian7042 Bro, you speak a slavic language. Slavs are not Thracians.
Thracians were the same people as Dacians and they spoke the same language. The difference between them was represented by their customs and foreign influences. Thracians were influenced by greeks, while dacians were influenced by celtic and scythian tribes.
And the only populations of today’s age who are the descendants of those people are Romanians, Vlachs and Aromanians.
@@davidmark225 I speak Bulgarian language not slavic. Bulgarian language is based on thracian language. Wallachia principality used bulgarian Cyrillic alphabet to 1853. After that "Romania" shows up. So bro don't tell me what language i speak. Bulgarians are thracians so go back to school.
@@fonthracian7042 Bro, you have a similar language with all the slavic populations. Lol
All white and beautiful. I'm amazed our enemies aren't trying to change their race like they did with Achilles
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So much incorrect information 🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ why you separate same people as deferent nationality’s groups? Bulgars was one of the Thracian tributes.
I agree 100%. Thracians were Bulgar mix with Greek and Turk !!
for Thracian what say historians.... Xenophon, he informs us that the Thracians regarded themselves as relatives of the Ionians (Cyrus Anasazi, Z31). The fact that the inhabitants of Thrace were Greeks is confirmed by Flavius Claudius Julianus who says: the inhabitants of Thrace are descended from Greece book(ΛΟΓΟΣ paragraph 12,17) other prove is inscription in the museum of the Pliska of Northern Bulgaria in the 9th century AD.the inscription write in this area, Greeks lived.
Not exactly. Modern Bulgarians are a Mix of Slavs, Thracians and Bulgars. Bulgars were far into Siberia in Ancient times, which is not a bad thing at all. But you, as I, can identify with more than one ancestry, which is great! Imagine, one ancestor of yours (I am assuming you are Bulgarian) Lived as a mighty horse rider in the steppe, one as a slav warrior in the north, and one as a Falx man in Thrace. Isn't that amazing?
Thracians are the same with Dacians. You slavs are ashamed of your common origins with russians and now you try to get an ancient root from
this area to your existence.
@Obicham BG Yeah, I've heard that Ancient Greeks thought Thracians were 'barbarians'.
"Both Romans and Greeks called them barbarians referring to the fact that they weren't neither Romans nor Greeks and to the perceived backwardness of their culture."
That just proves they have nothing to do with Greeks. Greeks saw them as primitive because Thracians didn't practice Greek culture.
As a far observer, I can say this,about the dispute between Greeks and Bulgarians : Thracians above Haemus mountains,absorbed by the Slav-Bulgars,and Thracians of south and east embraced Greek language and civilization.That is the story untill 19th century.After the rise of Pansalavistic movement,the things in Balcans, pretty much, f@&d up....
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Tharcian And Dacian Trajan Celtic people's are mixed Celtic and Dacian people's tell me he said he would have to be happy fun friendly and helpful
Good luck
According to Homer's "Iliad" the alphabet was given to the grecos by the Tracian tribe Frigi. When prince Paris of Troy wrote on a napkin to Helena "Allow me to love you", Agamemnon couldn't read it, because he was illiterate greek.
In that time (the war for Troy) the common "greek"alphabet is still not exist. different cities/countries used different languages
Same Greek alphabet exists long before and slav or bulgar came to the region. Have another look at thracian coins or even Illyrian coins you'll see all the writing in the same Greek language that never changed in over 3500 years. Not bulgars not Albanians or slave are not native to their habitat now. Bulgars are from the caucus as well as Albanians. Neither one of you were ever around. DNA even proves this today.
You bozos are really funny 😂😂😂😂
ANYONE POSTING ANYTHING ON HERE ....>>>> PLEASE PROVIDE PROOF OF WHERE YOU FOUND YOUR EVIDENCE !!! DON'T POST YOUR OPINIONS !!!!!
Can you tell me one emperor with Greece origin from Byzantium empire? Where I can see somewhere to read Byzantium Emperor with Greek Origin or from Greece?
@@martindimitrov1652 20
Out of the 22 emperors during this final period of Byzantium, 20 (91%) were Greek. This makes sense given that the areas of the empire that remained at this late stage in Byzantine history were mostly Greek, especially under the Palaiologos Dynasty.Aug 13, 2017
@@constantinep.9357 And it is written Konstantin Great from Greece the Greek man king of Byzantium ? Please give me name of one king where is written that he is Greek.
@@martindimitrov1652 Who cares where they came from? The important thing is where did they devote their lives at.
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Are they centaur that person with horse in video?
I don't think so!
He is a horseman!
THRACIANS ARE BULGARIANS!
no doubt
no they are not thracians
Prove it show me the studies..Its a myth with the bulgarians,,show me dna tests
Before you make stupid comment please show proof becausei have it right hear a thracian dug up in present bulgaria.genetiker.wordpress.com/2015/09/01/more-y-snp-calls-from-iron-and-bronze-age-bulgaria/ after you read this you will see that eb1 wich is the highest in albanians in europe. E-V13 did not come from anywhere but the Balkans. Its immediate ancestors are Mesolithic Balkanic
Prove it?show many the dna of this claim,an ill show you the genetic marker of the thracian tomb dug up an tested in 2015.
The true ancient greeks were called Danayans or "The see people". Meaning they came from Africa.
Actually the hittites called them that because they had to cross the Agean to get to Anatolia
And also they were and still are sea fairers
Everyone came from Africa at some point. Literally, humans came from Africa. Our ancestors all emigrated from Africa at some point.
They came from Africa.. wow... you are the best. We must be proud that we have a historian like you.
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Albanians and Greeks want to be Illyrian and Thracian but DNA proved that they don't have anything in common with them, Albanians came from Caucasia to Balkan, even their appearance confirms that - Illyrians were tall people while todays Albanians are short, not even a single roman or byzantium document calls them Illyrian, in fact they all state that they came from Caucasia to Balkan - even their medieval flag confirms that, they had a fortress on their flag while Bosnia had the Illyrian flag - half moon and star! This is what a roman document stated about our king Stephen Tomaš: NOS STEPHANUS THOMAS DEI GRATIA RASCIAE, SERVIAE, BOSNENSIUM SIVE ILLYRICORUM, PRIMORDIAE, DALMATIAE ET CROATIAE! Roman pope Pio II called our KING TVRTKO THE KING OF ILLYRIANS! Before Enver Hoca Albanians didn't even know who Illyrians were! Albanians say that Dalmatia comes from the word DELME which means SHEEP hahahahhahaha that is the dumbest thing ever, DALMATIA comes from 2 words: DAL and MATI which means GIFT OF MOTHER - BIG MOTHER was a goddess in which Illyrians believed, they say that DARDANIA comes from the word DARDHE which means pear hahahahahah all countries have pears hahahah, DARDANIA comes also from 2 words: DAR - GIFT and DANIA - DANIA was also a goddess in which Illyrians believed, so much for the wannabe Illyrians Albanians! OGANJ - Illyrian god of sun, today only Bosnians have that word in their language! Illyrians also used to leave food, clothes, gold near rivers for their Illyrian god Bindo - the only people that keep doing that today are Bosnians not Albanians, another thing is that Illyrians were tattooed, all documents state that Bosnians were tattooed also also while Albanians were not!
Greeks never claim to be Illyrian. In fact we gave that name to them. They were some Greeks living in those lands among many other peoples or tribes. Very few Illyrian blood remains today from these tribes. Mostly in Croatia about 4% Illyrian DNA of less than 20% of population and a little more than that in Bosnians. Proven already. Alsp proven is that ancient Thracians were Greeks and living in those areas from long before and of you were around !! Greeks settled all the coastal areas around the black sea and Mediterranean sea. All of Thrace was in Ancient Greek written language and proof lies everywhere you look plus modern Greek language is the same as the ancient. Never changed !!!! Bulgarian historians know this and wrote about this. Look up your own things from your own people and find truth !!!
SOMEONE WHO FINALLY GOT IT RIGHT.... BUT DO NOT FORGET THAT ILLYRIA WAS GREEK PROVINCE AT THE TIME AND RULED BY GREEK KINGS.. THEN THE ROMANS CAME WAY AFTER THE GREEKS !! THE ONLY PEOPLE TODAY THAT HAVE ANY TRACE OF ILLYRIAN BLOOD ARE THE BOSNIANS THE CROATS AND SERBS.... ALL THREE HAVE VERY LITTLE DNA FROM ILLYRIANS AS OVER THE YEARS THEY MIXED WITH OTHERS LIKE GREEK AND ROMANS ETC BUT YES THESE PEOPLE ARE THE ONLY ONES WITH A TRACE TO ILLYRIA. MY BOSNIAN BROTHER !!
Greeks don't want to ve illyrians in any way you slavs shouldn't be talking about ancient stuff since you are not ancient
Bulgarian language = thracian language i read and understand documents 6 thousend years old
dude stop that shit hahaha
Bulgarian language=Russian Slavic language
Bulgarian langauge os same as the other slavic langaauges in the balkans.
@@dominusalbaniae7812 Bulgarian language it's a first orthodox slavic language
@@jordansancho369 no its not, serbian is
Professor Jensen says. ‘For almost everything that is known in the Hittite language is Old Armenian in form..Historian Sayce (1845-1933) also consider Hittite and Armenian to be one and the same’. and Rothman, quoted earlier, said...''All that was known in Mesopotamia came from Armenia and that Armenia is the absent fragment in the entire mosaic of the ancient world's civilization's construction...
Bravo my Armenian brother... you know exactly what the truth is !!!
What's has to do thracian especially ancient with bulgaria?
we are their decendents
@@haunebu421 According to a triple analysis - autosomal, mitochondrial and paternal - of available data from large-scale studies on Balto-Slavs and their proximal populations, the whole genome SNP data situates Bulgarians in a cluster with Romanians, Macedonians and Gagauzes, and they are at similar proximity to Montenegrins and Serbs.[61]
The Bulgars (also Bulghars, Bulgari, Bolgars, Bolghars, Bolgari,[1] Proto-Bulgarians[2]) were Turkic semi-nomadic warrior tribes that flourished in the Pontic-Caspian steppe and the Volga region during the 7th century. They became known as nomadic equestrians in the Volga-Ural region, but some researchers say that their ethnic roots can be traced to Central Asia.[3] During their westward migration across the Eurasian steppe, the Bulgar tribes absorbed other ethnic groups and cultural influences in a process of ethnogenesis, including Indo-European, Finno-Ugric and Hunnic tribes.[4][5][6][7][8][9] Modern genetic research on Central Asian Turkic people and ethnic groups related to the Bulgars points to an affiliation with Western Eurasian populations.[9][10][11] The Bulgars spoke a Turkic language, i.e. Bulgar language of Oghuric branch.[12] They preserved the military titles, organization and customs of Eurasian steppes,[13] as well as pagan shamanism and belief in the sky deity Tangra.[14]
The Bulgars became semi-sedentary during the 7th century in the Pontic-Caspian steppe, establishing the polity of Old Great Bulgaria c. 630-635, which was defeated by the Khazar Empire in 668 AD. In c. 679, Khan Asparukh conquered Scythia Minor, opening access to Moesia, and established the Danubian Bulgaria - the First Bulgarian Empire, where the Bulgars became a political and military elite. They merged subsequently with established Byzantine populations,[15][16] as well as with previously settled Slavic tribes, and were eventually Slavicized, thus forming the ancestors of modern Bulgarians.[17]
A comparative genetic study shows the Bulgarians primarily represented by the Western Eurasian Y haplogroups, with 40% belonging to haplogroups E-V13 and I-M423, and 20% to R-M17 (R-M198 and R-M458). Haplogroups common in the Middle East (J-M172, J-M267, and G-M201) and in South Western Asia (R-L23*) occur at frequencies of 19% and 5%, respectively. Haplogroups C, N and Q together occur at the negligible frequency of only 1.5% among Bulgarians.[188]
A 2015 Bulgarian study found that Bulgars were "genetically distant from Northern and Western Europeans and populations from the Near East and Caucasus. On the greatest distance from Proto-Bulgarians are Volga-Ural and Arabic populations." The study further mentions that "...proto-Bulgarians are genetically similar to modern Bulgarians and to certain South-Eastern European as well as Italian populations."[212][dubious - discuss]
NOPE
@@nikosx6905 dont teach me my own history Bulgars were indo iranic tribes we didnt speak a turkic language and we didnt worship tangra we were zoroastrians plus the gagauz are a different type of turkish speaking Bulgarian muslims they arent separate from regular Bulgarians genetically the modern idea that Bulgarians were turkic was created by the soviet union to be able to undermine their Bulgarian population and to refuse to acknowledge them and to remove any nationalism from them this is supported by KGB documents I am no longer in possession of but it is true that Bulgarians today are genetically not mostly Bulgar we even lost our original language and religion
@@haunebu421 thought DNA tests show similarities to Turkey and Bosnia, also what i told you is the official history
@Obicham BG it's from sources which you can find on the sources tab, also it doesn't need so much brain to see that bulgarians aren't Thracians, that's ridiculous and angaist history
Illyrians(Albanians),Thracians and Dacians = brothers !!!Same language and same blood !!!
for Thracian what say historians.... Xenophon, he informs us that the Thracians regarded themselves as relatives of the Ionians (Cyrus Anasazi, Z31). The fact that the inhabitants of Thrace were Greeks is confirmed by Flavius Claudius Julianus who says: the inhabitants of Thrace are descended from Greece book(ΛΟΓΟΣ paragraph 12,17) other prove is inscription in the museum of the Pliska of Northern Bulgaria in the 9th century AD.the inscription write in this area, Greeks lived.
dude if using greek names and I am meaning 'thacian' and 'illyrians' and you are albanian then you are albanian and you have no connection with illyrians.
@Maria Safari Fard The Guida is ancient Greek instrument and not SlavoTatar.You just have it from Byzantine empire.You have no relationship with the Greeks-Thracians.
Maria Safari Fard
The first Greeks were the mycenaeans and minoans. They came from around the Mediterranean and settled the islands and then on Greek land. Later on they were known as hellenes and Greeks. They came from the other side of the Mediterranean with Egyptian religious customs. That’s why the main Y DNA haplogroup of Greece today is E1b1b (North Africa).
When they arrived on Greek land, the Thracians, Illyrians Macedonians Dardanians and others were already living in the Balkans. All these people had the i2 original and oldest Balkan DNA. Thracians Illyrians and Macedonians are closely related and distant brothers living on the Balkan Peninsula.
If we were SLAVS we would have the R1a haplogroup.
49% of the people in Bulgaria are descendants of Thracians and less are related to the Bulgar khans like khan krum khan telerig khan asperuch.
@@WatchmanofMKDN Also the Greek DNA is the J2
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They did leave written evidence...The Thracian scrolls were stolen or destroyed ..
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@Obicham BG Bro, you are the slavs who inhabited common lands in Novgorod region along with Baltic people.
Maybe you are mixed with thracians, but not as much as you think.
Till the slavic arrival in the 8th century A.D. we don’t really have mentions about Thracian people.
But who said they’re full
Slavs. Bro the only Thracian population who continued to inhabit the Bulgarian lands were the Vlachs, the latter having a similar language to today’s romanian.
Maybe you’re thracian too if you mixed with Vlachs.
@Obicham BG I don’t want to be mean, but it’s weird to see how someone claims something that it’s not correct.
It wouldn’t interest me if it wouldn’t be about my country’s history.
If this video was about berbers, I wouldn’t say anything.
Volga is a modern name long after Bulgaria! 🤣
Rather, Bogaria (Bulgaria) translates from God (Бог) Aria (Ария - the old name of Thrace). Birthplace of the god Ares - Ari (Ярък - Bright). Father of Amazons, Getae, Cimmerians, Scythians, Huns (Massagetes - Moesians and Getae) - BulgArians.
The Bulgarians have been called 1000 years - Moesians, peons, myrmidons, Scythians and Huns! 90% of Bulgarian DNA is Thracian! Thracians is a Danaus-Greek-Ethiopian exonym! The Thracian Pelasgians and Leleges are pre-Greek populations! The Leleges are the fathers of Spartans and Carians! 😎
The true ancient greek history lies in Africa.
Well everyone comes from Africa...
Says the tatar 💀
Are thracian slavs?
Yes, they are slavs, but never think that slavs are with white hair and speak Russian! When thracians called themselves "slavs" , russians have other names!
Russians were not called themselves "slavs" in this time!
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Modern day Bulgarians are not ethnically or culturally associated with the ancient Thracians. The Bulgars came to Thrace in 632 AD.
What you say is the official false story supported by the Bulgarian enemies. Indeed only Bulgarians today can walk on fire ( nestinari ) which is ancient Thracian tradition. That is why the modern historians often avoid this fact and not only this.
+lazia cus The Bulgars (also Bulghars, Bulgari, etc.) were semi-nomadic warrior tribes of Turkic extraction who flourished in the Pontic-Caspian steppe and the Volga region during the 7th century.
+lazia cus Ha it's clear now that you're trolling me. Alexander never lost a battle, he easily conquered 99% of the known world before he died. And if the Bulgars were Iranian then how are they native Thracians. It's impressive how many delusional inaccuracies you fit into that comment.
Bulgarians has always been there. Paid historians looked for their origin all over the world except where it was. I will ask you a simple question which you can answer if you traveled around the world. Have you seen a mongol with curly hair :)
Bulgarians and Tracians is the same. Slavs came to use somewhere in 17th century and is just as fake as the greek nation. Greece never existed until the same that time. They were like immigrants in the Thracian empire(roman empire) and are of Jewish origin, although at that time there has started a great manipulations in history and most of the people were already not aware of their recent history. Nowadays only the Bulgarians call Istanbul - Kingstown, this has remained in their mythology and ancient songs because it was their king that used to live there. There are people in Bulgaria that can walk on fire, which was a Thracian tradition. These people used to be chased during the communism and were forbidden to do this, because the communism was jewish creation either. Just recently a few started to do it again. The modern historians in Bulgaria, which are paid by some American Soros organizations hate these facts. Jews using the muslims conquered that part of the world in the 14th century and destroyed all books and monuments they could get their hands on. There are myths and songs in Bulgaria which speak of that it was jewish organized and that kept from mouth to mouth for more than 6 centuries. Same with the jewish created ISIS now, who is destroying historical museums in Syria full of muslim history. If they are of muslim religion then why would they do it? If you put some effort to read the Kur'an you will be surprised to find that Moses was mentioned 50 times more than Allah. It is written more about the jews than the muslim. It is a book written by the jews, same like the new testament. If you look for logic in modern history you will not find it, because it is not real.
Bulgarians were Turkic people that mixed with Balkan Slavs... they have nothing to do with Thracians. Thracians were Greeks.
There is no such thing. Turkic people has never existed. There is arabians.
Александър Мръвков Are you stupid? The Turkic people did exist... they came from Central Asia.
Bulgarians are Bulgarians, end of story.
Spiri Donas Bulgarian have no Turkic blood that’s a old ottoman myth. Bulgarians hold the most Thracian blood of any modern group
@@user-sm5rt5ic6e you are stupid right? turkic people came from the far east and settled and mixed up with the populations in anatolia and balkan peninsula.
Bulgaria be Wallachia 2022-forever .
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You not you are Asian
NO YOU ARE NOT !!!! NOT EVEN CLOSE MALAKA !!!
You are Kawkaz...hahhha
me too that is what dna says , shit from iberian i become thraco -illyrian ???? whatta people moved wars , hunger storms
HERE WE GO AGAIN. Thracians were ancient tribe. Slavs were medieval tribe. SO slavs can't be thracians. Thracians were Greeks.You can read that in both Homer and Herodotus and many ancient and modern historians. The whole Greek nations including the thracians were Pelasgians. The only reason that Slavs claim the ancient heritage of the Greeks is because they own former Greek lands. As far as the dna is concerned , greek dna gets to have more than 95% similiraty with the ancient greeks. I am talking about ethnic Greeks of course. If Slavs get to have thracian dna, up to some point, is because during the byzantine history (eastern roman empire) some Slavs got mixed with Greeks. The emperor of the time could not beat them due to many issues so he let them live in the northern borders of the empire and gave them thanks to Kirilos and Methodios (1/2 greeks, 1/2 slavs) an alphabet, the so called slavic and taught them the orthodox christian religion. So that they can stay in the empire without causing problems.Anyway, during the 2 Balkan war, Greek and the fighting Slavs all fought each other and Greece of course did not manage to reach its ancient borders. That is why ancient Greek lands are now belonging to Slavs. That means that many Greek antiquities are now in the slavic hands. that does not mean that the Slavs created the antiquities since as i mentioned before they came around the 8 th centuryA.C. if i recall correctly- during medieval times. Cheers. i do not have an issue with any tribe at all but please, do not "rape " history.
@Obicham BG bro i do not know a single greek suggesting other than the bulgarians are slavs. Of course Slavs descent through medieval times. All historians know it. even if someone says that thracians r not Greeks they are surely not Slavs because as you said, thracians are ancient tribe and Bulgarians/Slavs are medieval. Also i do not know even a single geneticist from harvard or elsewhere suggesting that you have thracian DNA. if that happens it is kinda make sense cause there where many wars between you and us during 8th century and even you got conquered by Byzantines(during the reign of basileios bulgaroktonos) meaning that there were probably some mixes.(by the way no modern Greek claims Bulgarian land). On the other hand there are many genetists that prove, they do not suggest, they prove! the DNA heritage of Greeks. Also i do not know about your ancient city and your ancient gold but i guarantee you that 1stly we do not give a shit (he have nothing to be jealous of and on the contrary we admire other ancient tribes like the Egyptians or the Chinese ) and secondly ,since you are medieval tribes, they are not yours. you just happen to live nowadays where thracians used to live. finally the only reason you claim to be thracians is the same reason that the other slavs, the " north macedonias" claim to be macedonians. you both want to steal greek land. political reasons you see.all the nonsense of you thinking to be ancient tribes started during ww2 . in my opinion you should make 1 state with the Slavs of the fake macedonia, call it Bulgaria or anything you want, and stick to your medieval legacy culture etc. there is no way you are ancient. it is not something bad. you are just not.
ps1 greek language before the hellenistic period was not the same in all places, that is way many greek historians called other greeks as barabrians (i think Xenophon was one of them) ( cause they did not fully understand what the others say)
ps 2 we do not claim that the whole world is greek , but of course ancient greeks where almost everywhere for sure.As far as the ancient thracians tell me just one thing. why did they use the greek alphabet and had greek names if they were not greeks? xD
ps3 sorry bro , but the propaganda is all on your side
@Loco Loco , we were always here, we didn't came from Africa or India. Slavs were not even mentioned anywhere until recent times , when someone decided to hide or steal our history. Don't trust mainstream history. Some Bulgars came and said to the people here "Let's make a country" and the others replied "Sure, why not, and lets name it after you because you are so cool" Yeah, right! Our DNA is over 90% Thracian. Bulgarians are Thracians and some of our neighbors are too. People here knew Jesus long before he was physically born... our history is the most corrupted one in the whole world! The oldest bible is ours (Besica) , yet it is kept from us in England. The russians didin't came to free us, they came when they saw the empire was already too weak, just to burn libraries and went house to house to get all the books and knowledge just to take it back to Russia with 40! trains filled with books, all that to hide that all they have, all they are they got from us, to hide that if it wasnt for us who gave them faith and alphabet they would still be quaking in the bushes. Also we did pay with gold to Russia for coming here to "liberate" us. Slavs are not country or people from 1 country its just about language, Slav comes from Slovo (words) and we gave it to them, because this is our purpose - to teach ... Everything is corrupted, even things like Istoriq Slavqnobulgarska is actually Slavno - Bulgarska. Every little detail is carefully changed and corrupted, so we never know who we really are. Bulgarians went all over the world to teach people how to live, to give them knowledge. There were many Empires that were started by Bulgarians , yes our history was hidden but you can find a lot of info in other countries ancient sources. They can hide history but they can't hide all the toponyms that Bulgarians left all over the world. You will find "Bol, Bal, Bql" etc. everywhere . Wherever Bulgarians went they left a white city behind them. Even the name Bolkans comes from that. And lets not forget that most roman emperors were Thracian. You will find even mountains called after Bulgaria in Italy.
your ancestors came from the Caucasus th-cam.com/video/uFqMeTqtxHE/w-d-xo.html
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These female figures are the same as in ancient biggest cult center - Tanagra or Tangra in Beotia in today's environment of middle Greece that the Greeks have repeatedly burned him!
Bulgarians, I don’t want to be mean to you, but you are not Thracians. You are slavic people, which slavs inhabited the Novgorod lands with Baltic people. Slavs came in Bulgaria in the 8th century A.D.
@Obicham BG Archeological proof? Not mentions.
@Obicham BG Slavs settled way later in the Balkans. At first they fought under avar and other turkic populations rule, just like wallachians.
@Obicham BG That’s why I’m talking about archeological proof.
@Obicham BG What do you mean 20% Slavic? Population-wise?
@Obicham BG Bro, how can you be Thracians with a slavic language? It makes no sense lol.
Tharcian And Dacian people are moesian north Bulgaria mountain sliven
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Bulgarian are old Turkish ( bolgar).
True
@@Gkogkas of course. let them try they are going to smach their faces because they are slavs
Αλεξανδρος Γκογκας greeks are semit gypsies mixed with turks, Bulgarians are thracians
Neutral Peace Silly you.Modern day Bulgarians are a mix between Proto Bulgarians, Thracians and Slavs. Nothing more nothing less.
@@giraffe640 bulgars are thracian tribe MIZI, noob.
Bulgaria is not Tracia😂😂😂😂😂
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Thrace is a anchied greek civilization not slavic
It’s not correct. Thracians were totally different people from the Greeks. Please, read before you write.
@Obicham BGjust look a ancient Greek map u will see thrace. In ancient times Thrace has a greek kingdoms coins Launguge. Bulgars don't exist in ancient times... and yes many in ancient Greece hated Thrace but in ancient Greece many laws were enemies between them like Aetolia with Macedonia or Athens with Sparta.. of course over the years Thrace has been divided and has mixed with many peoples today you consider a place both Bulgarian and Turkish. but Thrace is a child of Greece
@Obicham BG ok obviously in such discussions they are held with fanaticism on both sides. ........ so I pass back what I said that Thrace belongs to us 100% but you can not say that it is 100% Bulgarian, it is scientifically proven that later the Greeks created a colony mainly on the beaches of Thrace and they founded kingdoms, and were incorporated whenever there is also Greek Thrace.
@Obicham BG ok it was very stupid i can say sorry for that. however, it is known that the Greeks have left colonies all over the Mediterranean almost .. in another theme I also hate these Bulgarians and Albanians who say that Macedonia belongs to them, especially the ancient one !!!
but the settlement of the Greeks on the beaches of Thrace does not belong to Bulgaria
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according to Ellis (1861) through language analysis we observe that under the names of Phrygians, Thracians,
Pelasgians and Etruscans spread westward from Armenia to Italy and Elis claimed that the closest affinities of the Aryan element are the Armenians ..other historians that agree are..Hellenthal, Busgy, Brand, Wilson, Myers and Falush...
Wales deal with take care a tharcian Celt people's history pictures forever movie actor accept Wales and Bulgaria people
Bul ARYAN tracian dna🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬💪🤚🤚🤚
I am quoting only historians. None of this is my opinion...
Most Bulgaria is tharcian and Dacian and Celt and Slavic and Bulgars from cuman creative bulgar ancestors is Dacian and Persian and Huns people and Germanic people forever
no, it is not th-cam.com/video/uFqMeTqtxHE/w-d-xo.html
Slavs claiming to be direct descendants of ancient balkan people are lioe white Americans claiming to be descendants of native americans😅
Why didn't they write
BECAUSE THEY WAITED FOR THE GREEKS TO GIVE THEM AN ALPHABET SO THEY CAN MAKE THEIR OWN LANGUAGE... THEY SPOKE A GREEK DIALECT. LIKE IN MODERN DAY AMERICA WHERE WE HAVE A SOUTHERN DIALECT OF ENGLISH AND A NORTHERN DIALECT AND SO ON.... THAT'S ALL IT WAS... THESE PEOPLE CALLED THRACIANS WERE OF GREEK DESCENT... MORE PROMINENT GREEKS OF THE DAY LIKE THE ATHENIANS AND SPARTANS DIDN'T CONSIDER THEM GREEKS BECAUSE THEY WERE BENEATH THEM OR NOT AS EDUCATED !!!! THAT WAS THEIR LOGIC BACK THEN BUT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT THEY WERE GREEK ORIGIN PEOPLES !!!
@@constantinep.9357 actually thacians were taking part in the olympics. that proves that they were equal greeks !
@@atreast.4331 totally different culture, and etnicity Greek and Tracians
@@svetoslavtodorov2507 not at all. both using Greek alphabet , believing in the greek common gods, have Greek heroes, participated in Trojan war, had Greek names (ORPHEUS, DIONYSUS) e.t.c. since they were at the northern parts of Greeks and had communications with barbarians they were the most barbaric of the Greeks. after all both Greeks and thracians were Pelasgians. Slavs were medieval and have been using the cyrrilic alphabet since they got conquered by the eastern Romans (Byzantines).
@@svetoslavtodorov2507 every greek state had a somehow unique culture yet all have some basic similarities
Wales related Wallachia ancestors
they wish
I found that thracian people called thracians by greeks are actually etruscian people. i will tell you why am i right . Because if you make your own research to the treasures found in my country Bulgaria you will understand. Here were found the oldest golden book of etruscian people. Thracians are from
Asia, so etruscans tooo. They are the same people. Here in Bulgaria were found the oldest golden treasure in the world. So you can make your own research about connection between these "two" people etruscians and "thracians". I am not scientist, but i am unterested about ancient history and archeology so i had red a lot of information.
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THRACE is Greek heritage🇬🇷
Bulgars go to tatarstan to find your heritage
I shit on you, malaka, and it's great you bitch like this because you will never possess the great Thracian material heritage. Turkoglou Mikra Asia hairy bastard.
Who was Greeks and Greek Land!
Can you tell me one emperor with Greece origin from Byzantium empire? Where I can see somewhere to read Byzantium Emperor with Greek Origin or from Greece?
The Thracians are local, the Danaus Greeks are newcomers from Africa, so-called Dan's knee - Semites! 😉
@@zalmorxis4736 Hahahaha nice story.Now go back to your cave and read history.
@@Gkogkas Which story? The fake one? That the Danaus Greco came from Africa, about which Homer writes more than 200 times. The Danaus Greeks are stealing name Ellinas from the Thracian-Pelsgians and their priestly tribe (S)elli ! In which the Bulgarians are mentioned as myrmidons from Malala, and Tsets adds that the Bulgarians that is myrmidons, are also peons. That Jerome the Blessed in his map
from 380 year has noted -
Moesia, also Bulgaria.
That the Greeks have been calling us for 1100 years - Moesians, Getae with a new name (Slavs), Massagetes, Huns, Scythians, Myrmidons and Peons. You Greeks never buried your kings with horses and dogs in a tomb as the Thracians and Bulgarians did. You have never shaved your heads like Thracians and Bulgarians. Go read - malaka!
@@zalmorxis4736 Go back to sleep now.That’s enough for today Slav.Russian steps call you back.
Bulgaria lots many people's often more visit work together filco supermarket Bulgaria and Romania Moldova and Ireland and Wales mixed food and drink people's can buy like to know you. страхотна сделка bqq супермаркет Filco супермаркет работят заедно различни места пазаруват лесен начин
Albanian ar the holdest on balkan🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱
oldest not really if you go by historical record and archaeology you need to pick spots as modern Varna and greek islands
@@coala1980 Never grek show me the greek term people race in histori bible books maps before 1821 1829
not even close !!!!!!
you are Kawkaz...hahhha
@@brenatobrenato6797 ever heard the name magna GRAECIA 😉
P Gus spreads lies.
Bulgarian are slavic people and nothing in common with the tracians
Greek history: the richest and oldest
Neighbor's: it's for me?
Btw ask yourself, why is it always direct borders neighbor's? Why do you always claim Greek history that is on your border's? The mainland was never claimed, you Slavs always dreamed of the agean, but you should be happy you aren't back to your land, Russia. Btw you have no proof, you just fooling yourself that your something more than a Slav.
actually, trace is not greece, oldest it is not as well, Aegyptus is older, shumer, iranian and so on. greeks have made up a lot of their history as well to justify their actions (that is done by a lot of nations, Rome did it too).
@@naidenromanov3050 other than your eye ripping English what you say is complete bullshit with 0 proof's, you can say you're an alien, without proof that's bullshit and laughable.
@Obicham BG Main article: Genetic studies on Bulgarians
According to a triple analysis - autosomal, mitochondrial and paternal - of available data from large-scale studies on Balto-Slavs and their proximal populations, the whole genome SNP data situates Bulgarians in a cluster with Romanians, Macedonians and Gagauzes, and they are at similar proximity to Montenegrins and Serbs.[61]
The Bulgars (also Bulghars, Bulgari, Bolgars, Bolghars, Bolgari,[1] Proto-Bulgarians[2]) were Turkic semi-nomadic warrior tribes that flourished in the Pontic-Caspian steppe and the Volga region during the 7th century. They became known as nomadic equestrians in the Volga-Ural region, but some researchers say that their ethnic roots can be traced to Central Asia.[3] During their westward migration across the Eurasian steppe, the Bulgar tribes absorbed other ethnic groups and cultural influences in a process of ethnogenesis, including Indo-European, Finno-Ugric and Hunnic tribes.[4][5][6][7][8][9] Modern genetic research on Central Asian Turkic people and ethnic groups related to the Bulgars points to an affiliation with Western Eurasian populations.[9][10][11] The Bulgars spoke a Turkic language, i.e. Bulgar language of Oghuric branch.[12] They preserved the military titles, organization and customs of Eurasian steppes,[13] as well as pagan shamanism and belief in the sky deity Tangra.[14]
The Bulgars became semi-sedentary during the 7th century in the Pontic-Caspian steppe, establishing the polity of Old Great Bulgaria c. 630-635, which was defeated by the Khazar Empire in 668 AD. In c. 679, Khan Asparukh conquered Scythia Minor, opening access to Moesia, and established the Danubian Bulgaria - the First Bulgarian Empire, where the Bulgars became a political and military elite. They merged subsequently with established Byzantine populations,[15][16] as well as with previously settled Slavic tribes, and were eventually Slavicized, thus forming the ancestors of modern Bulgarians.[17]
The origin and language of the Bulgars has been the subject of debate since around the start of the 20th century. It is generally accepted that at least the Bulgar elite spoke a language that was a member of the Oghur branch of the Turkic language family, alongside the now extinct Khazar and the solitary survivor of these languages, Chuvash.[167][177][178][179][180][181]
A comparative genetic study shows the Bulgarians primarily represented by the Western Eurasian Y haplogroups, with 40% belonging to haplogroups E-V13 and I-M423, and 20% to R-M17 (R-M198 and R-M458). Haplogroups common in the Middle East (J-M172, J-M267, and G-M201) and in South Western Asia (R-L23*) occur at frequencies of 19% and 5%, respectively. Haplogroups C, N and Q together occur at the negligible frequency of only 1.5% among Bulgarians.[188]
A 2015 Bulgarian study found that Bulgars were "genetically distant from Northern and Western Europeans and populations from the Near East and Caucasus. On the greatest distance from Proto-Bulgarians are Volga-Ural and Arabic populations." The study further mentions that "...proto-Bulgarians are genetically similar to modern Bulgarians and to certain South-Eastern European as well as Italian populations."[212][dubious - discuss]
My nation created history, we try to represent it as accurate as we can, the propaganda comes only from people who have to gain something from it, you want to reach the Aegean that ain't a secret, you especially as a bulgarian you can't talk about history while your fellow confused bulgarians of vardaska claim they are Macedonians and descendants of Alexander the Great, which is truly a crazy propaganda that every educated people can see, we know that you wish to be Thracian but that ain't the case and no, Thracians aren't older neither better, we consider them Greek because they were part of Greek kingdom's and culture for many years and many Thracians are Hellenized (Greco-thracian) living in Greece and considering themselves GREEK, of course there are bulgarians that trace back to the Thracians but that can't be said for all of the country (when the bulgarians came there was probably a Thracian population remaining which mixed with some of the bulgarians), it's not the first time something like this happens and not the only country that does that and as i said, it's all our neighbors who claim stuff like that, for example, because turkey is in sometime Hittites land they think they are Hittites and natives to Anatolia, which is laughable when it's well known and proven that they came from central Asia after the Hittites and even Roman's, that's how you sound to us, because you are in the lands of Thracians doesn't make you Thracians, unlike you, Harvard university has proven that today Greeks are the same as the Minoans and Mycenaean by analysing ancient Greek skeletons from different parts of Greece with today Greeks from different parts of Greece, so you can't doubt us, we literally speak the same language as the ancient Greeks and we can understand 3000 year's old text's, you speak Slavic, there are many proof's and examples, but your ignorance im sure won't let you give up on ignoring your actual race and culture and looking to be something else, embrace your bulgarian history and let the propaganda for the vardaskans who are worldwide clowns.
The Bulgarians have 3 main Ancestors the Bulgars or as some call em the Proto-Bulgarians the Seven Slavic Tribes and the Thracians the Thracians weren't Greek they were their own thing entirely and eventually mixed in with the Slavic tribes and with the Bulgars mixing to create modern day Bulgarians we're quite mixed people's really the Thracians are now Bulgarians and they were never Greek but I understand some of the history stealing that your neighbours do like with Macedonia but overall Thracians are along with the Seven Slavic Tribes and with the Bulgars they're all Bulgarians
@@nikosx6905 well everything you wrote is fucking trash btw. Nobody cares to steal a fucked up history like that of the greeks. BUT Thracians were not greeks and they don't come from the son of Ares u fucktard, Also Macedonians werent full greek either. Even the Pelasginas were not greek since Homer distinguished them from the greeks at that time! Eastern Roman Empire wasn't greek either! Had greeks in it as many other nations you trash.
Turkic - Slavs claiming the history of an Indo-European tribe what a joke 🤣
Turkic are asian looking people who live in Asia and "Slavic" is not ethnicity but a modern term made by the Russian Empire and not a single historical evidence mention such a people or confirm their existance....so try again to make some sense please
Slavs is the new name of the the Getae. The Bulgarians are Moesians and Getae, the Russians are the Vitins, the Serbs the Illyrians, the Romanians the Dacians, the northern Macedonians the Peons, the Italians the Etruscan Meons.
Start reading my friend, everything is documented from end to beginning.
Slavic language is Thracian-Pelesgian linear A and B which is one to one of the Bulgarian Moesian runes, so-called Glagolitic, improved Cyrillic. See Bulgarian runes and Bulgarian rosette from Pliska and linear B!
All Slavic peoples (the Getae) have Thracian roots, plus Romanians, and are brothers and sisters.
Yes, today's Turks have Thracian admixtures, ie Slavic.
They are all Macedonians :)
have you ever seen a history book?
SashoStorys i doubt he has
Yeah, we're Macedonians, because Macedonians are Bulgarians 🤭
We went from Kosovo je Srbija to
World je Makedonia
Source : tito said so🤣🤣🤣🇲🇰🎪🇲🇰🎪🇲🇰
Bulgarians aren't at all under any circumstances descendant of Thracians. You guys came to Moesia and Thrace in 681 A.D, Thracians were Romanized Thraco-Romans by that time. Modern Romanians are descendant of them
Not at all. You don't know our history. Thrace=Bulgaria=Aria
Romans have genetically nothing to do with Thracians. They are totally different people.
@@ds-on4sm I didn't write that Romans are Thracians, your comment shows you have no knowledge of the matter. Thracians got Romanized when Sapaean Kingdom was fully annexed by Roman Empire in 46 A.D, a process of Romanization started, and a new Thraco-Roman culture and people emerged in the former Thracian lands. Those people eventually became the modern Romanian people. Bulgars came to Europe as a semi-nomadic people from the Eurasian steppe and came in Moesia in 681 A.D, by that time Thracians were Romans
@@InAeternumRomaMater No, no . Our official history is crap. Done on purpose. To make us invaders in our own land. Thracians became Scythians. We had countries in the Steppe, too. But those were all Thracians. Not new people.
Romanians are Dacians.
@@ds-on4sm You have no idea what "Thraco-Romans" are and you come here telling me I don't know History? What a joke you are. The History of Bulgarians is very well written based on actual documents written by the Byzantines, you came from the Volga river as a Bulgar-Oghur people. Your first contact with the region of Moesia was in 681 A.D, when you found your first Kingdom. Thereafter, in the Haemus Mountains (Modern Balkan Mountains in Bulgaria) Thraco-Roman language (Proto-Romanian) was written as a Romance speaking people, and two words are documented that do not exist in the Bulgarian language, but do in Carphato-Romanian and Aromanian language. And there are the words "Torna" and "Fratre" meaning "Turn back/come back" and "brother". They come from Latin Tōrno and Frāter. They are documented in Theophylactus Simocatta Histories (c.630) but talks about the years of 587 A.D and in Theophanes Confessor Chronographia (c.814). The words are still in modern day Carphato-Romanian and Aromanian language and they are: "Torna"=Aromanian "Tornu" in Carphato-Romanian the definition has change but with a relative same word and it is "Toarnă" now meaning to "pour" but meant "Turn back" in the Old Romanian language, and the word "Fratre" in Carphato-Romanian "Frate" and same in Aromanian. In both sources mentions the native people of the former Thracian Kingdom as a Romance speaking group. Prior to the Bulgars. Why there's no words in Bulgarian from the Thraco-Romans? And Vlachs (Romanians) are mentioned living in the Haemus Mountains by the Xth-XIIIth Century, and there's still a minority Romanian population in Bulgaria in the Balkan Mountains calling themselves now "Vlachs". The only reason you claim "oUr hIsToRy iS cRaP, dOnE oN pUrPoSe. tO mAkE uS iNvAdErs iN oUr oWN LaNd", is because you are a conspiracy theorist and try to make your own History greater as a classic nationalist. Romanians aren't Dacians, we are Latins, we are Thraco-Romans
Thracians are not bulgarians.dna in 2015 has proven from a thracian tomb that bulgarians are not thracians they have the dna of eb1.the word bulgar comes from the turkish language it was a turkish tribe .the bulgarians today are slavnic an turkish.that is a fact
You are both stupid in the big flood happened thracians(bulgarians) went to Asia and 681 they come back in they're lands!
that is not true,the bulgar tribe wich is turkish assimulated the slavs in bulgaria,the thracians pre date modern bulgarians,bulgaria was under the slavs very early,,an the bulgar tribe assimulated them,hence today bulagrains are turks an slavs, 681 loool thracians are thousands of years older than 681
Bulgars were not Turkish, especially not in terms of the modern-day Turks. Bulgars were originally Turkic and Iranian.
Cimmerian Nomad Majority of Bulgarians are mixed with Thracian, Slavic, and a little bit of Turkic though not much.
Истината за най-голямата лъжа за нас е пред очите ни! ... Истината за България разчупва оковите и преобръща света! .... при изграждането на Плиска и Преслав В българския фолклор няма тюркски елементи, но пък тракийските изобилстват и това кара етнолога Евгений Теодоров да каже, че ние българите имаме пълното право да се считаме за наследници на траките.
GUYS !! i will talk with evidence .Thracians are greeks. Thracia comes from ancient greek "Θραξ".Θραξ according to ancient greek mythology is the founder of the thracians and was the son of Ares, who was a Greek god. As you see in this video Orfeus , Dionysous etc are Greeks. BOTH ARES AND DIONYSUS ARE 2 /12 olympian gods. Thracians had plenty of same gods with the rest of the Greeks, they believed in the same pantheon. Even from the video you can understand that.. ORFEUS is an ancient Greek mythological hero as well => "Ορφευς" . ALSO Spartacus=> greek name as well "Σπαρτακος".If you get to learn ancient greek language you will find evidence both glossological that prove that thracians are greeks.Also all the paintings you see in this video are made exactly like the greek style. guess why xD. Also all this indoeuropean theory is bullshit. it has been proven by the german geographer mullen (if i spell that correctly)and many more archeologists that there were here in balkania, already some tribes! And it makes sense! why shouldn't be here people as well? anyway search it by yourselves.ALSO! as you probably know ONLY Greeks were taking part in the Olympics. Thracians were taking part.ΙΝ 476 a grappler from marwneia "μαρώνεια" of Thrace was a winner .THAT PROVES THAT THRACIANS WERE GREEKS! el.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%9A%CE%B1%CF%84%CE%AC%CE%BB%CE%BF%CE%B3%CE%BF%CF%82_%CE%B1%CF%81%CF%87%CE%B1%CE%AF%CF%89%CE%BD_%CE%BF%CE%BB%CF%85%CE%BC%CF%80%CE%B9%CE%BF%CE%BD%CE%B9%CE%BA%CF%8E%CE%BD here is the list of ancient greek Olimpic winners look in 476 BC. READ it by yourselves. all these evidence should be enough to convince you that bulgaria has nothing to do with thracia . thracians' etymology , all these words' etymology you listen to the video, and the historical proofs should be enough to convince you that thracians are greeks.IF STILL not enough read ancient greek texts of Ησίοδος, Όμηρος, Έφορος, Στράβων, Σκύμνος, Ηρόδοτος, Μενεκράτης, Παυσανίας, Θουκυδίδης, Ευριπίδης, Αισχύλος, Διονύσιος ο Αλικαρνασσεύς, Αντικλείδης, Πλάτων. i am not sure about the English spelling,search it by yourselves as well, sorry!
The mythology thing is kinda bullshit that's like saying all Orthodox nations are the same they're not and it's a Greek word because surprise surprise that's how the Greeks called em Thracians are one of the main Bulgarian ancestors along with the seven Slavic tribes and the Bulgars they were their own thing and now they are Bulgarians we're a mixture of multiple people's that make a whole new ethnic group that simple
@@rawka_7929 Bulgarians have nothing in common with the thracians they are as related to them as the greeks and the turks inhabiting thrace
@@wankawanka3053 Bulgarians have the most Thracian DNA, and the most Cultural traditions along with the most of the Thracian inhabited lands of antiquity. You also seem to forget the Thracians didn't just Inhabit what we call Thrace today but also Lower Moesia along with Pirin Macedonia and the Rhodope region in general.
All regions today inhabited by the closest descendants of the Thracians, the Bulgarians.
@@rawka_7929 True thracians were romanized hellenized and moved south when bulgars and slavs invaded their lands
@@moses6358 no? Sure the language died out but their unique culture didn't and it remained till the Bulgars and Slavs arrived. Also no they did not move south, that's just massive coping.
Bulgarian are not Thracian, Eastearn Gheg Albanian are the true descendant of the Thracian, in middle age Illyrian and Thracian migrated for cause of the Slavo-bulgarian invasion, Illyrians migrated to the south, Thracian to the west and the mixing of 2 indigenous culture born the Gheg Albanians. That is historical fact not nazionalist message.
Yeah...that thing you claim is a "historical fact"...it hasn't been proven. Makes it more of a nationalist message. The only thing that has been proven is that the Thracians were assimilated as one of the "primary ancestral groups of modern Bulgarians." Maybe you should stick to historical sources and not something that you heard in a drunk conversation down at the bar.
Go back to school ignorant, historically documented by several Byzantine historians of the time the massive migration of the Thracian to the west of the Balkans due to the Bulgarian invasion, then you are mistaken on a point above all "assimilation" in reality the Bulgarians are They were mixed with the Thracians (those remaining in the native land) and being fewer than the natives were genuinely and culturally assimilated (the original Bulgarians are a population of uralic origin and hence turkish culture), identity remained Bulgarian but its uses and Clearly pelasgic costumes, you have never casualized how much the dances, the music and the traditional costumes to the Albanian ones are, because Bulgarian "scholars" try and try to translate the ancient Thracian inscriptions but have not been able to " Deciphering "their language, while using Albanian as a basic language all becomes clearer and the beautiful that these discoveries keep them hidden in so the truth the Albanians are the undisputed descendants of the Illyrians, Dacians, Thracians and Hellens remains a secret to hide or a mythological story. Only in Balkans Albanian are Indigenous!
Omar Tota The people that you are referring to as Bulgarians are actually called Bolgars or Bulgars. The modern day citizens of Bulgaria are called Bulgarians. The fact that you are so uneducated and ignorant that you can't properly express yourself just shows how irrelevant your opinion on the matter is. Go learn some fucking history. You have no factual evidence to your claims. The nationalist propaganda that you were force-fed in school has started to become very obvious.
Dear Anastas Gegov,
Talk about what you mean meanwhile I'm not offended because I see what you know about history (nothing absolute), make a favor to yourself return to the Pontic steppe.
I just sent you the friend request because I like to know new people, for example I appreciated the clash of minds between you and me where you have to admit that you did not know how to deal with it, remember the south Slavs, Bulgarians and Byzantine Romans ( Modern "Greek" ) are Not Related with Pelasgians ( Illyrians, Dacians, Thracians and Hellens ), the Albanians are the last descendant of Pelasgians.
HAAHAAHHA...The Bulgarians are of Tatar (Mngl) tribe origin and have nothing to do with the Thracians !!!! the Thracians are a Serbian tribe ...Bulgarians are not Slvaistc ...Tatar!!!!
@Obicham BG hahhhaa
@Obicham BG Tatar
@Obicham BG hahhhaaahha...lol
Neither bulgarians nor serbian are thracians. I don’t get it why you guys are ashamed of your slavic origins. For real
now?
@@klauszimerman4278 Is 'haha' your best response? If you're Serb, please know you speak a broken version of Bulgarian. Remember when Serbia was a part of the Bulgarian empire? Yeah.
Bulgaria has NOTHING to do with Thrace. Shame
Jason Gkikas yeah it just happens to occupy almost the exact same land... Fucken jealous douchbag
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