Proving the cut and paste Quran with Thaddeus from Reasoned Answers
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ส.ค. 2020
- We will have Thaddeus from Reasoned Answers to follow our previous discussion about the source criticism of the Quran.
Thaddeus Billman is a Christian TH-camr who is involved in outreach to Muslims. His channel, Reasoned Answers, features a combination of Christian apologetics and polemics against Islam. Thaddeus has been studying apologetics for more than two decades and is particularly interested in historical arguments for the truth of Christianity. He was introduced to Islamic polemics through David Wood's channel and soon recognized the huge need in this area. His TH-cam channel: / @reasonedanswers
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Yes those burned the Christian scriptures are not Christians. Uthman as a Muslim himself burned thousands and thousands of Qurans. great point. Sister Hatun you are very genius 👌 God bless you both and your ministries ✊❤️
Thanks for joining us everyone. The first livestream I did with Hatun on source criticism is called "Quran steal stories" for those interested in that. Also, if you want a copy of the slides, just let me know.
@@islamdefenderyahya4621 Why does your "god" copy from human beings? You have no answer, so you must instead attack a gross distortion of Christianity. Shame on _you._
@@jasonbourne2255 I would say your comment is the stupidest thing I read today, but I also read the Quran, so its a toss up... When you have an _actual_ answer for how the same text managed to show up in the Quran that was found in uninspired human texts, let me know. until then, good luck with your empty bravado.
Thadeus, apologies had missed the live stream and would've ask this then...regarding Mohammad's/Qurans apparent use of predominately OT/Judaic teachings/stories over the use of the NT/Christian stories etc...do you have any idea of Islamic use of Jewish traditions 'Pirke Avot' (Ethics of the fathers)?... and perhaps more directly, do you have any awareness of Islams drawing more from the teachings of Shammai (Law) as opposed the Hillel (Grace) whom was said that Jesus had somewhat drawn/followed on (some say directly learned) from??
@@jasonbourne2255 _"I haven't seen any evidence."_ Then you Must have had your eyes and ears closed throughout the presentation.
@@islamdefenderyahya4621 I asked "Why does your "god" copy from human beings? " and you answered "Bcse my God is Not a DRAGON." Thanks for admitting your god copies from human authors... Come back when you are capable of behaving like an adult. (I won't hold my breath.)
Sister Hatun = heart of a lioness! Thanks for your courageous work in exposing the errors of Islam.
@Youhann Van dam We love you despite your hatred towards us and your vile and childish behavior
@Youhann Van dam So you don't love allah or his prophet then?
LOVE YOUR SPUNK SIS!!! WATCHING FROM ANAHEIM CALI ,🙏💖👍🔥🔥
This cartoon is Perfect for Momo. Even a child will remember this song. Brilll🕺🏼
thisbloke So? I’m sure I could describe you too, wouldn’t be better 😂😂
@thisbloke Why does your god copy from human texts?
@thisbloke LOL. There is no assumption, just a fact proved by evidence. But let's go with our ridiculous assumption - why is your god "confirming" fictional stories never considered inspired by anyone as historical scripture?
@thisblokeNice attempt to dodge with a bunch more nonsense about Christianity. Once again, even if Christianity were false (and your have no actual basis to judge - your mind is filled with propaganda, not facts), that would not make Islam true.
So, again I ask "why is your god "confirming" fictional stories never considered inspired by anyone as historical scripture?
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@thisbloke Yet again, even if Christianity is false, that doesn't make Islam true. Stop hiding behind blatant distortions of Christianity you got from liars and start thinking about your own religion. Start by explaining why your "god" tells 7th century Christians that they have no ground to stand upon if they don't judge by the Gospel they have if that Gospel is supposedly false. What kind of "god" instructs people to judge by false (according to you) books?
a propos "further north" the Quran itself says they (Mohamets tribe) passed by the city of Lut (Sodom/Gomorrha) every night. if thats true, todays Makka (plus all the rest) is simply false. all few other verifiable place names also are located in the north of arabia (Thamoud, Ad).
My goodness i miss Sister Hatun ❤❤
I just love the starting song of Satan allah and his messenger😀 I listened and i been singing rest of the day😀
Agreed, its a great song.
@Youhann Van dam Why does the "god" of the quran need humans to kill one another to satisfy his will? Is he too weak to do it himself? Is he afraid that the words of human beings are more persuasive than his own? or does he just enjoy making people into murders?
[[ @ *R A* ]] . . . . . . . . . But Isn't It The Same Heavenly Father "G o d" Who Said "Thou Shalt Not Kill" Yet The Israelites Were Divinely Inspired To Kill And Did Kill Everybody.
They Were Provided With A Chest To Carry Ahead Of Them Into Battle, An Electrified Weapon Supposedly With The Presence Of "G o d" In It.
@@fahiymmuhammad785 Your tu quoque fallacy will be ignored. If you can defend the Quran, do so. Until then I will assume you can't and you know it.
[[ @ *R A* ]] . . . . . . . . . It ALL Balls Down To Having Misguided Faith In Something You Do Not Understand. You Have Been Made To Believe That Having Faith In Forces That Are Not Heard, Or Felt-And Putting Your Full Truth In The English Translations Of The Bible And Koran Is The Right Thing To Do. But, This “G o d” That You Say Is Your “G O D” And That You Believe In, Seems To Need Props And Incidents To Make Himself Look Great. This Makes *“G o d” A Wimp*
﴿يا أَيُّهَا النّاسُ إِن كُنتُم في رَيبٍ مِنَ البَعثِ فَإِنّا خَلَقناكُم مِن تُرابٍ ثُمَّ مِن نُطفَةٍ ثُمَّ مِن عَلَقَةٍ ثُمَّ مِن مُضغَةٍ مُخَلَّقَةٍ وَغَيرِ مُخَلَّقَةٍ لِنُبَيِّنَ لَكُم وَنُقِرُّ فِي الأَرحامِ ما نَشاءُ إِلى أَجَلٍ مُسَمًّى ثُمَّ نُخرِجُكُم طِفلًا ثُمَّ لِتَبلُغوا أَشُدَّكُم وَمِنكُم مَن يُتَوَفّى وَمِنكُم مَن يُرَدُّ إِلى أَرذَلِ العُمُرِ لِكَيلا يَعلَمَ مِن بَعدِ عِلمٍ شَيئًا وَتَرَى الأَرضَ هامِدَةً فَإِذا أَنزَلنا عَلَيهَا الماءَ اهتَزَّت وَرَبَت وَأَنبَتَت مِن كُلِّ زَوجٍ بَهيجٍ﴾ [الحج: ٥]
O people, if you should be in doubt about the Resurrection, then [consider that] indeed, We created you from dust, then from a sperm-drop, then from a clinging clot, and then from a lump of flesh, formed and unformed - that We may show you. And We settle in the wombs whom We will for a specified term, then We bring you out as a child, and then [We develop you] that you may reach your [time of] maturity. And among you is he who is taken in [early] death, and among you is he who is returned to the most decrepit [old] age so that he knows, after [once having] knowledge, nothing. And you see the earth barren, but when We send down upon it rain, it quivers and swells and grows [something] of every beautiful kind.
- Saheeh International
﴿ذلِكَ بِأَنَّ اللَّهَ هُوَ الحَقُّ وَأَنَّهُ يُحيِي المَوتى وَأَنَّهُ عَلى كُلِّ شَيءٍ قَديرٌ﴾ [الحج: ٦]
That is because Allāh is the True Reality and because He gives life to the dead and because He is over all things competent
- Saheeh International
From a blood clot ?? 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
﴿وَآيَةٌ لَهُمُ الأَرضُ المَيتَةُ أَحيَيناها وَأَخرَجنا مِنها حَبًّا فَمِنهُ يَأكُلونَ﴾ [يس: ٣٣]
And a sign for them is the dead earth. We have brought it to life and brought forth from it grain, and from it they eat.
- Saheeh International
﴿وَجَعَلنا فيها جَنّاتٍ مِن نَخيلٍ وَأَعنابٍ وَفَجَّرنا فيها مِنَ العُيونِ﴾ [يس: ٣٤]
And We placed therein gardens of palm trees and grapevines and caused to burst forth therefrom some springs -
- Saheeh International
﴿لِيَأكُلوا مِن ثَمَرِهِ وَما عَمِلَتهُ أَيديهِم أَفَلا يَشكُرونَ﴾ [يس: ٣٥]
That they may eat of His fruit. And their hands have not produced it, so will they not be grateful?
- Saheeh International
﴿سُبحانَ الَّذي خَلَقَ الأَزواجَ كُلَّها مِمّا تُنبِتُ الأَرضُ وَمِن أَنفُسِهِم وَمِمّا لا يَعلَمونَ﴾ [يس: ٣٦]
Exalted is He who created all pairs - from what the earth grows and from themselves and from that which they do not know.
- Saheeh International
﴿وَآيَةٌ لَهُمُ اللَّيلُ نَسلَخُ مِنهُ النَّهارَ فَإِذا هُم مُظلِمونَ﴾ [يس: ٣٧]
And a sign for them is the night. We remove from it the [light of] day, so they are [left] in darkness.
- Saheeh International
﴿وَالشَّمسُ تَجري لِمُستَقَرٍّ لَها ذلِكَ تَقديرُ العَزيزِ العَليمِ﴾ [يس: ٣٨]
And the sun runs [on course] toward its stopping point. That is the determination of the Exalted in Might, the Knowing.
- Saheeh International
﴿وَالقَمَرَ قَدَّرناهُ مَنازِلَ حَتّى عادَ كَالعُرجونِ القَديمِ﴾ [يس: ٣٩]
And the moon - We have determined for it phases, until it returns [appearing] like the old date stalk.
- Saheeh International
﴿لَا الشَّمسُ يَنبَغي لَها أَن تُدرِكَ القَمَرَ وَلَا اللَّيلُ سابِقُ النَّهارِ وَكُلٌّ في فَلَكٍ يَسبَحونَ﴾ [يس: ٤٠]
It is not allowable [i.e., possible] for the sun to reach the moon, nor does the night overtake the day, but each, in an orbit, is swimming.
- Saheeh International
﴿وَآيَةٌ لَهُم أَنّا حَمَلنا ذُرِّيَّتَهُم فِي الفُلكِ المَشحونِ﴾ [يس: ٤١]
And a sign for them is that We carried their forefathers in a laden ship.
- Saheeh International
﴿وَخَلَقنا لَهُم مِن مِثلِهِ ما يَركَبونَ﴾ [يس: ٤٢]
And We created for them from the likes of it that which they ride.
- Saheeh International
﴿وَإِن نَشَأ نُغرِقهُم فَلا صَريخَ لَهُم وَلا هُم يُنقَذونَ﴾ [يس: ٤٣]
And if We should will, We could drown them; then no one responding to a cry would there be for them, nor would they be saved
- Saheeh International
﴿إِلّا رَحمَةً مِنّا وَمَتاعًا إِلى حينٍ﴾ [يس: ٤٤]
Except as a mercy from Us and provision for a time.
- Saheeh International
🙄 *Have you seen this creature Abduls... The clues are:* 🤔
👁 1 Eyed
🖐🖐 2 Right Hands
🦵 1 Left Shin
Is it perhaps Ahura Mazda?
@@ReasonedAnswers Could be... keep guessing!
@I M Maybe... someone knows best!
@@islamdefenderyahya4621 You keep speaking Blasphemy! I pray that one day you will read the Scriptures.
@@islamdefenderyahya4621 Here you are presented with truth unlike people /Muslims 50 100 years ago but still...
Ohhhhh
more and more abduls
came and watched your clip.
Thats a proof you've shot
bull-eyes.
Carry on, Hatun
﴿وَما خَلَقتُ الجِنَّ وَالإِنسَ إِلّا لِيَعبُدونِ﴾ [الذاريات: ٥٦]
And I did not create the jinn and mankind except to worship Me.
- Saheeh International
﴿ما أُريدُ مِنهُم مِن رِزقٍ وَما أُريدُ أَن يُطعِمونِ﴾ [الذاريات: ٥٧]
I do not want from them any provision, nor do I want them to feed Me.
- Saheeh International
﴿إِنَّ اللَّهَ هُوَ الرَّزّاقُ ذُو القُوَّةِ المَتينُ﴾ [الذاريات: ٥٨]
Indeed, it is Allāh who is the [continual] Provider, the firm possessor of strength.
- Saheeh International
﴿فَإِنَّ لِلَّذينَ ظَلَموا ذَنوبًا مِثلَ ذَنوبِ أَصحابِهِم فَلا يَستَعجِلونِ﴾ [الذاريات: ٥٩]
And indeed, for those who have wronged is a portion [of punishment] like the portion of their companions [i.e., predecessors], so let them not impatiently urge Me.
- Saheeh International
﴿فَوَيلٌ لِلَّذينَ كَفَروا مِن يَومِهِمُ الَّذي يوعَدونَ﴾ [الذاريات: ٦٠]
And woe to those who have disbelieved from their Day which they are promised.
- Saheeh International
The book of jasher speaks of women going crazy about josue
I think the story of the visit of the Queen of Sheba is a perfect example of a story picked up casually. As the caravan traders are sitting around the campfire, swapping tales, one of them relates the mystic legend of the house made of glass. He makes a big deal about the queen lifting her skirts and tops it off by saying she had hairy legs. Laughs all around. Of course, King Solomon is not attracted by that! But Muhammad believed it.
I think Islam exchanged Mary (maryam) and Miryam bc Miryam is a prophetess in the Bible and in the Quran (de facto) as well, bc Jibril was sent to her and talked to her. so it must have been a prophetess (even if the Quran doesnt call her nabiyya/rasoula). plus they could get rid of the Jewish descendance of Jesus and Joseph her fiancee) in one go.
the untypical (later) reduction/truncation of the narration is due to limited human memory plus oral tradtion. thats why the Quran lacks almost always all the details sometimes even some or theee essentials, or if there are names, they got corrupted (ie. Yajuj and Majuj, Habil and Qabil, ...).
@@Peter-xf9jy _"he untypical (later) reduction/truncation of the narration is due to limited human memory plus oral tradtion"_ Exactly. The Quran has all the earmarks of simply being oral tradition finally written down, or as the Quran itself says "tales of the ancients."
Poor Hatun.
That song at the beginning is possibly the most cringeworthy thing I've ever heard in my life.
have you heard the Koran being sung? you aint heard nothing till you hear that crap!
Sentinel the Quran isn’t “sung”. And imagine teaching your kids to sing this lol. Embarrassing.
@@sentinal2343 Haha, I had the same thought.
A Muslim explaining how Muhammad is the best of all mankind is the most cringe worthy thing most of us have ever heard 😅😅
PATHETIC, Christ in Islam?, more chance of finding a ham sandwich in a mosque