I must say, the extremely low oil volume in the raceday damper (where a lot of the weight saving is coming from) worries me. I can hardly believe the damper is any good unless you change oil very frequently. Oh and by the way, good video as always. I always try to make sure to like and leave a comment so you keep making them. They are different from the normal marketing speak.
Nice video - keep it up. For future comparison videos would love to see a quick side by side table of feature comparisons in the video, maybe at the end as a recap summary.
I am in Europe and the price difference between two is around 150 euros, so 150 gram difference for 150 euros, and improved and firmer damper sounds like a fair deal to me.
Almost exactly a year ago - on December 31, 2021 - I was lucky enough to buy Ultimate SL with 100 mm travel. When the fork arrived, I removed everything from the fork (ie, thru-axle, lockout) - and it weighed in at impressive 1309 grams - substantiating the claims for the lightest 29 inch XC fork out there. And that was with uncut steerer tube in a new condition. Now, late in December 2022 - another SID arrived, this time Select 100 mm - for my other XC bike. I couldn't easily remove the lockout (the cable tip was pressed on as it was a shopwindow fork previously installed on a bike - and I felt too cheap-a$$ to waste a perfectly good cable end) - but the steerer is cut to length. So I ended up holding the lockout in its cable at the same height as the fork while weighing - to make its effect on the result as negligeble as possible --- and the weight is 1470 g, w/o the thru-axle. Don't know why - but the numbers quoted in the video differ quite a lot. Anyway. Thanks for the video and greetings from Latvia.
A comparison, as in a user review, would be appreciated. The quickfacts videos you do are informative but they're more of a comparison between numbers. Perhaps you need to return the products "new in box" but it's still something you should think about imho. And I say this because you're a great presenter!
hello guys, i have the 100 mm sid SL ultimate on my bike, yes she is lighter than the select model but i think, the real difference comme to the charger race day damper, the ultimate is a really weapon for the race ! i have good feelling with it and i'm feel better in the technical zone, the jumps, the climbs.... i recomand it !
SID Ultimate is a finicky fork, which develops a ton of stiction, and the small bump suppleness disappeared after a few weeks and did not return after servicing. Then, the bushings went like I'm hearing is common with this fork. Replacing it with a 2022 SC fork.
This is exactly the video I’m looking for! I have the SID SL Select. It’s a 32mm upper stanchion fork with Debonair and Charger RL. The lower legs have something called a power bulge. If you feel and look closely, you’ll see it. Do you prefer the liner Charger RL or the RaceDay damper?
Is it true the RS Sid have bushing issues? I've read lot of bad reviews bout SID. Im considering this as my first "true racing fork" but Im afraid of the issues coz in my area, it's hard for warranty or service repair.
How does the damper of the select+ likely compare to the select? Also, if you have a select + and upgrade to a race day damper how close would the weight likely be to the ultimate?
Great video, good to see the comparison betwen the two forks. I have a 100mm Sid Select and there is hardly any difference between the compression being on and off. I am told this is normal for the Charger RL damper, but doesn't seem right to me. Just wondered how much the compression firms between settings on your Select fork?
Buongiorno, io ero orientato all'acquisto di una Sid 35/120 ultimate ma parlando con un centro di revisioni forcelle mi hanno consigliato di andare di Fox 34 per non ben definiti problemi alle Sid!
What difference would there be in using RockShox suspension oil vs Maxima Plush? Is there any harm in not using their suggested Maxima? I’m looking into buying suspension oils and am totally new to servicing them. Thanks
@@LoveMTB Yes the manual suggests the heavy oil for the lowers and the 3wt oil for the upper. But what I’m trying to say is, when it comes time to service the upper/damper, would the brand of 3wt matter, Maxima vs Rockshox? Thanks
@@LoveMTB thanks for your answer,recently I’ve bought cannodale mtb with Sid select 2023 but I find big sale sid ultimate race day 480€ ,but it’s 2021 model ,so upgrades or not ? 😂😂
@@LoveMTB just warrantied my Ultimate, and it came back with 'Select +' on the new lowers. They are sending replacement decals through my shop but weren't responsive to me at all in my form inquiry to their website.
Hello. I have SID Ultimate for 2 months and the feeling ride this fork is really good w/ comparison of RS Judy, but...I have a problem with small gap between legs of the fork and strange sound going from lower legs when I put a wheel on the groud. I do not know what is going on. When I am on bike there is no gap, so I do not know if this is normal or not. If somebody have the some experience please let me know how to fix it. Thank you very much.
Nice comparison. Thinking about fork options for my bike. 100 mm travel carbon hardtail 2018 y. Currently it has OEM RS REBA-RL-A7. 100 mm. Mainly used for marathon and xc disciplines. Its time to make a service for my Reba. Thinking would it be noticeable difference to replace damper to Charger Race Day (cost about 170 Eur in Europe) or to change full fork with SID Select 100 mm (cost about 420 Eur in Europe). Or just make a regular service for Reba and call it day :) any thought? thanks
@@LoveMTB service is cheapest, yes. The main concern is stiffnes i would not get if i only change the damper. Thus started to thinking the best optinion to get stiffnes is new Sid. Looking only 100 mm of travel. Sid is available in 100 mm travel as - SID SL Select Charger RL 100 mm 44 offset. But its additional expens. May be i'll stay with serviced Reba. Thanks
Hi, i have sid 120mm on scalpel se1 But i need more then 70mm travel.. How do it? I dont have any tokens inside but isnt chance going on full travel.. Im sad really. And second question.. Is fox34sc better for sensitivity? Sid is how old manitou nixon +- he eat only hard impacts...
Do you still have the Rock Shox SID Select 120 fork? I sent mine back to Rock Shox and it came back the same. The damping adjuster doesn't do anything in the first 5 clicks and the last click it has a firm, but not total, lock out. I am trying to find another SID Select fork to compare. In the meantime I bought a Fox 34 SC and it works better in terms of damping adjustement.
@@LoveMTB it's not the lockout I care about, it's the fact that there is no change in damping in the first 5 clicks. It feels like it's either fully open in the first 5 clicks, and then firm in the last click. It's on or off. I thought with 5-6 clicks it should have a range of adjustment.
@@LoveMTB I follow the guide on the fork. I think you have the Select + fork which may have a slightly different damper than mine. Are you in the GTA? I am in Pickering.
@@LoveMTB Rock Shox says the Select + has the Charger 2 RL damper. So you notice a difference in the compression damping with the adjuster in 1,2,3, 4 and 5 etc?
Can you help me pls. On my bike I have fox fork and demper and fox remote lock (push to unlock). I would like to upgrade my fork from fox32 SC 100mm to sid select 120mm. Then I would have problem with remote lockout? Can RS twistlockout work for my new sid select + fox demper?
@@LoveMTB I do a lot of tarmac and nice gravel road to top of mountains. I gues I will buy SID Select witout lockout on handlebar and just use remote lockout for my demper.
@@LoveMTB Yeah I think your suggestion is realy good. Do you think replacing Fox 32 with SID Select 120 mm is good idea? I need specialy more stifnes for my XL bike and not the lightest rider :) And also geometry with 70% headangle on my Lux CF SL is a bit restraint.
I must say, the extremely low oil volume in the raceday damper (where a lot of the weight saving is coming from) worries me. I can hardly believe the damper is any good unless you change oil very frequently. Oh and by the way, good video as always. I always try to make sure to like and leave a comment so you keep making them. They are different from the normal marketing speak.
Nice video - keep it up. For future comparison videos would love to see a quick side by side table of feature comparisons in the video, maybe at the end as a recap summary.
Good suggestion thanks
I am in Europe and the price difference between two is around 150 euros, so 150 gram difference for 150 euros, and improved and firmer damper sounds like a fair deal to me.
Almost exactly a year ago - on December 31, 2021 - I was lucky enough to buy Ultimate SL with 100 mm travel. When the fork arrived, I removed everything from the fork (ie, thru-axle, lockout) - and it weighed in at impressive 1309 grams - substantiating the claims for the lightest 29 inch XC fork out there. And that was with uncut steerer tube in a new condition. Now, late in December 2022 - another SID arrived, this time Select 100 mm - for my other XC bike. I couldn't easily remove the lockout (the cable tip was pressed on as it was a shopwindow fork previously installed on a bike - and I felt too cheap-a$$ to waste a perfectly good cable end) - but the steerer is cut to length. So I ended up holding the lockout in its cable at the same height as the fork while weighing - to make its effect on the result as negligeble as possible --- and the weight is 1470 g, w/o the thru-axle. Don't know why - but the numbers quoted in the video differ quite a lot. Anyway. Thanks for the video and greetings from Latvia.
120mm vs 100mm forks
Hi, i bought the Fox Factory StepCast, which had a better design for my bike, and reliable and smooth
A comparison, as in a user review, would be appreciated. The quickfacts videos you do are informative but they're more of a comparison between numbers. Perhaps you need to return the products "new in box" but it's still something you should think about imho. And I say this because you're a great presenter!
hello guys, i have the 100 mm sid SL ultimate on my bike, yes she is lighter than the select model but i think, the real difference comme to the charger race day damper, the ultimate is a really weapon for the race ! i have good feelling with it and i'm feel better in the technical zone, the jumps, the climbs.... i recomand it !
SID Ultimate is a finicky fork, which develops a ton of stiction, and the small bump suppleness disappeared after a few weeks and did not return after servicing. Then, the bushings went like I'm hearing is common with this fork. Replacing it with a 2022 SC fork.
Sua comparação foi a que eu precisava, comprei uma Sid select 120mm no Aliexpress, agora e esperar chegar. E fazer os testes
Thanks for that great 🎥. I'm manueving through the forest of forks out there. All information is greatly appreciated. Take care. Aloha
Amigo seus vídeos são muito bons! Muito ricos em informações, coisa que aqui no Brasil não encontrei igual. Parabéns 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🇧🇷🇧🇷
This is exactly the video I’m looking for!
I have the SID SL Select. It’s a 32mm upper stanchion fork with Debonair and Charger RL.
The lower legs have something called a power bulge. If you feel and look closely, you’ll see it.
Do you prefer the liner Charger RL or the RaceDay damper?
MONSTER of a fork 35mm 🙏🤘
Como siempre un fabuloso vídeo, con mucha información.
Is it true the RS Sid have bushing issues? I've read lot of bad reviews bout SID. Im considering this as my first "true racing fork" but Im afraid of the issues coz in my area, it's hard for warranty or service repair.
How does the damper of the select+ likely compare to the select? Also, if you have a select + and upgrade to a race day damper how close would the weight likely be to the ultimate?
this is a good question I'm also curious about, I believe you will slightly under 100g heavier with the damper swap
Im still stuck with my Reba 😅
I'm looking at these 2. On an xc build I'm about to do. The ultimate is better than the select right? Lighter. Ect.
@@LoveMTB yeah I was thinking about that. Thanks
Great video, good to see the comparison betwen the two forks. I have a 100mm Sid Select and there is hardly any difference between the compression being on and off. I am told this is normal for the Charger RL damper, but doesn't seem right to me. Just wondered how much the compression firms between settings on your Select fork?
@@LoveMTB Mine was firm(ish) but not rock solid. But has changed and now there is hardly any difference between the settings
Buongiorno, io ero orientato all'acquisto di una Sid 35/120 ultimate ma parlando con un centro di revisioni forcelle mi hanno consigliato di andare di Fox 34 per non ben definiti problemi alle Sid!
I have the SID select 120mm and wish it was plusher. Could I turn it into the select plus? and how would I do that, thanks in advance.
What difference would there be in using RockShox suspension oil vs Maxima Plush? Is there any harm in not using their suggested Maxima? I’m looking into buying suspension oils and am totally new to servicing them. Thanks
@@LoveMTB Yes the manual suggests the heavy oil for the lowers and the 3wt oil for the upper.
But what I’m trying to say is, when it comes time to service the upper/damper, would the brand of 3wt matter, Maxima vs Rockshox? Thanks
So expect the weight ,it’s better sense or not ?
Race day damper is different would feel more supportive but can be perceived as harsh by some
@@LoveMTB thanks for your answer,recently I’ve bought cannodale mtb with Sid select 2023 but I find big sale sid ultimate race day 480€ ,but it’s 2021 model ,so upgrades or not ? 😂😂
Just wondering if you can put a remote handle bar feature for locking out the fork and rear shock?
The Sid 120 has a reputation for developing bushing play and needing repair. Has Rock Shox done anything to address this problem?
Hola y ¿ se sabe si ese problema también la tienen las ultimate de 100 ?
@@LoveMTB just warrantied my Ultimate, and it came back with 'Select +' on the new lowers. They are sending replacement decals through my shop but weren't responsive to me at all in my form inquiry to their website.
Hello. I have SID Ultimate for 2 months and the feeling ride this fork is really good w/ comparison of RS Judy, but...I have a problem with small gap between legs of the fork and strange sound going from lower legs when I put a wheel on the groud. I do not know what is going on. When I am on bike there is no gap, so I do not know if this is normal or not. If somebody have the some experience please let me know how to fix it. Thank you very much.
A parte de baixo são iguais sim, eu comprei uma que teve recall e mandaram a parte de baixo da ultimate e deu certo.
Obrigado por compartilhar e aproveite seu melhor garfo!
Is it adjustable to 100mm? The sid ultimate.
@@LoveMTB Thanks mate! Your fan here in PH! Cheers mate
Nice comparison. Thinking about fork options for my bike. 100 mm travel carbon hardtail 2018 y. Currently it has OEM RS REBA-RL-A7. 100 mm. Mainly used for marathon and xc disciplines. Its time to make a service for my Reba. Thinking would it be noticeable difference to replace damper to Charger Race Day (cost about 170 Eur in Europe) or to change full fork with SID Select 100 mm (cost about 420 Eur in Europe). Or just make a regular service for Reba and call it day :) any thought? thanks
@@LoveMTB service is cheapest, yes. The main concern is stiffnes i would not get if i only change the damper. Thus started to thinking the best optinion to get stiffnes is new Sid. Looking only 100 mm of travel. Sid is available in 100 mm travel as - SID SL Select Charger RL 100 mm 44 offset. But its additional expens. May be i'll stay with serviced Reba. Thanks
Hi, i have sid 120mm on scalpel se1
But i need more then 70mm travel.. How do it?
I dont have any tokens inside but isnt chance going on full travel..
Im sad really. And second question.. Is fox34sc better for sensitivity? Sid is how old manitou nixon +- he eat only hard impacts...
@@LoveMTB yes now i have lower pressure and SAG is 30% still no chance for go on 80-90 travel
80-90% *
@@LoveMTB i had everytime fork with linear travel. So okay..
Do you still have the Rock Shox SID Select 120 fork? I sent mine back to Rock Shox and it came back the same. The damping adjuster doesn't do anything in the first 5 clicks and the last click it has a firm, but not total, lock out. I am trying to find another SID Select fork to compare. In the meantime I bought a Fox 34 SC and it works better in terms of damping adjustement.
@@LoveMTB it's not the lockout I care about, it's the fact that there is no change in damping in the first 5 clicks. It feels like it's either fully open in the first 5 clicks, and then firm in the last click. It's on or off. I thought with 5-6 clicks it should have a range of adjustment.
@@LoveMTB I follow the guide on the fork. I think you have the Select + fork which may have a slightly different damper than mine. Are you in the GTA? I am in Pickering.
@@LoveMTB Rock Shox says the Select + has the Charger 2 RL damper.
So you notice a difference in the compression damping with the adjuster in 1,2,3, 4 and 5 etc?
Habiendo tenido las dos horquillas, ¿ has tenido algún problema con el cartucho de la Ultimate?.
@@LoveMTB Madre mía, ¿ como alternativa como verías la DT swiss 232 ?
@@LoveMTB Gracias.
@@LoveMTB Hola, ¿ y de la otra Sid de 35mm has tenido algún problema similar de holguras?
Can you help me pls. On my bike I have fox fork and demper and fox remote lock (push to unlock). I would like to upgrade my fork from fox32 SC 100mm to sid select 120mm. Then I would have problem with remote lockout? Can RS twistlockout work for my new sid select + fox demper?
Beacuse if I understand corect RS Sid select is open in defult and FOX Float is lock?
I believe you are correct. What do you need the remote for?
@@LoveMTB I do a lot of tarmac and nice gravel road to top of mountains. I gues I will buy SID Select witout lockout on handlebar and just use remote lockout for my demper.
@@MrTheSkiper Hust make it stiffer using the damper when needed and forget the remote. What I would do.
@@LoveMTB Yeah I think your suggestion is realy good. Do you think replacing Fox 32 with SID Select 120 mm is good idea? I need specialy more stifnes for my XL bike and not the lightest rider :) And also geometry with 70% headangle on my Lux CF SL is a bit restraint.
What's tire clearance like?
@@LoveMTB Do you think 2.6 or 2.7 would fit?
hay love mtb
only Manitou )))
@@LoveMTB Old Marvel)
Nice little place to fill with crap and mud!!
@@LoveMTB The top caps!