For Personal Use.. Table of Content 0:15 Introduction 0:48 The Hard Break 3:04 The Climbing Spiral 7:18 Scissors 9:31 Split S Reversal 13:13 Boom and Zoom Defense 17:22 Head-on Evasion 18:38 Guns Defense
I've watched all your vids and studied them hard, practiced in training mode and now, after a few days of solid training and refining i usually always come first on my team, 3 being the lowest position. I personally use Hurricanes (not the best, but tough) and it is irrelevant what a planes turning speed is, if you know what you are doing you can be a god among men in the sky with anything. I now implement the same strategies in RB with decent success. Thank you for your tutorials, they really opened my eyes.
How have you been able to get away from Boom and Zoom attacks with heavier fighters i.e. P47 or P38 lightning? I have been having some real difficulty avoiding Bf 109's when they dive on me and even when I do escape, I'll flip over expecting them to overshoot only to realize they've turned into me as well.
@@vosswatter always difficult against BF 109s. They are BnZ gods. Though you can either climb and try to match their altitude negating, for the most part, their ability to BnZ or get close to the ground. That might scare off a few because many won't risk diving if you hug the terrain. But that brings up its only problems. Dog fighters mainly. Though a trick to combat BnZ is to turn into their path. Never turn away. Because they will be on you once again. Turning into their path causes them to over shoot and they will have to climb. Which you can use to better position your self or tuck in behind them. Split S is also a decent tactic to use. Advised, even. But it has been a long while since I played War thunder. Just things off of the top of my head..
@@dbg5744 thank you! That makes things much easier since the P47 was never known for its agility. I've been playing American since I first started playing (about 2 months ago) which is not very beginner friendly as I have learned. However I am determined and your advice is very helpful
damn.. i reinstalled WarThunder after 2 years without playing, i still remember most of things i learn from you Longshot, you made me a great pilot in-game, i miss your videos a lot, hope you are doing well :)
Its been like a while, but there's one thing here I didn't like. When doing BnZ you're supposed to extend with a shallow climb to not allow your enemy to get a shot on you and then zoom straight up. He never mentions it.
Ok. This is absolutely THE BEST Damn tutorial series for War Thunder. Hands down. Thank you Lon5shot for putting these together. Really fantastic stuff. Legendary. Still relevant in 2020
Hey I don’t know if you still play or work your channel but I wanted to say thanks. These videos made me a way better player and wingman for my buddy who plays air arcade. I’ve come back to you half a dozen times to learn and relearn more. Whenever I find myself getting wrecked you have my answers. Thank you
You really helped me out with my BF109. I’m now getting about 9 kills every match and still mainly die but it’s worth it. I just hope your doing good right now. You really helped me out when I was about to stop playing. So thank you for everything. Wish you luck
Love the vids, Longshot. You deserve more views. I'm sure you know there are a lot of maneuver guides for warthunder here in the tubes, but a lot of them were made towards its initial release. I'm glad to see guides that apply to the game in its current state. Thanks!
Ah, so that's what you were talking about when you said you out-turned a Chaika with the Ki-61's rudder :) Very nice video- a lot of great advice that I'm sure will be of help to beginner AND intermediate players. Showing both points of view is definitely worthwhile, as it isn't always obvious what your opponent is experiencing.
Well, on reflection there's things I didn't show - such as how to avoid someone while keeping your energy high in order to gain a reversal not by forcing an overshoot but by gaining an energy advantage. All those sharp breaks etc have their cost in terms of speed loss. I guess they're good enough though for 90% of your typical Arcade encounters.
Hello longshot, good to see you're uploading videos. I wanted to recommend you the Ebook name "in pursuit". It's written by a WWII pilot and while it's meant to help more to people playing other (more realistic if I might say so,) WWII games, I found it to be quite helpful even in the unrealistic tug of war that is war thunder arcade.
Great job Long5hot! Very informative and helpful. I know I need to work on my defensive flying and this should help a lot. I totally understand your desire to take a break, but I hope it's not too long for you shall be missed.
I played war thunder for a while and i wasent good but when i watched your guides i got very better like surviving attacks geting more kills and getting more RP.All i can say is thank you
Learning to do the climbing spiral made a huge difference to this game for me as i am now able to rope a dope and get the reversal on other players so much easier its "almost" unfair.
Great video. Sorry to see that you moved on, evidently. That opening footage is beautiful. That "Hammerhead" reversal footage you execute is great. I remember when I first saw it in, War Thunder- "Victory is Ours". Made me install the game.
Thanks for posting these! I used some of these tactics in game and offensively I got my best ever, 9 kills in one game. However, I still need ti work on my defensive tactics as I lost 4 aircraft. Thanks again!
I'll freely admit I'm not very good at War Thunder, but I enjoy the game. But this video has helped me immensely. I'm still not very good, but I certainly survive longer now, and for that thank you.
You do a fantastic job with teaching new players - like me - about the strategies we should use to be more successful, so I wanted to say thanks to you for all the effort you put in making these videos :) Although I'm sad because you are taking a break from the game, since you said that you do not enjoy the game as much as you did in the past because of the new changes patch 1.45 has offered I think it is a step in the right direction - even though I'm not here to judge you :) We should play games to enjoy them and stop playing if that enjoyment is no longer present. PS: That Bf-109 skin with the red nose tip and black-gray painting (I believe it was a E-3 skin) looks nice. I searched the web a little and could not find it, can you or someone give the link to the file on the web if possible?
Hey NF, firstly the skin can be downloaded from live.warthunder.com/post/27386/ Two things have made me take a break from WT - wall to wall clouds and short games, often both together. I had a terrible run of them and felt like throwing my mouse at the screen, so it was time to step back and do things which I actually enjoy rather than playing a game that induces frustration & rage (I'm a very calm person IRL). I'll be back playing, indeed I dropped on for a couple of quick games tonight.
novocas7rian I somewhat dislike clouds too, they are good for dynamic/realistic maps part where maps we play differ from one game to another but the amount of clouds force players to go dogfight at lower altitudes or have a bad game fighting the enemy within the clouds. On the short games part though, I was always thinking that we as a team didn't do our job at killing their bombers or simply they had too much bombers that our bomber hunters could not catch up killing them, so we lost. As a new player I usually can't figure out the reason why did we win or lose, simply because I can't see the big picture in most of the games. Also, now that I think of it, maybe - if you have the time - you can address this issue in this series, give tips about following the gameplay or knowing the reason that caused one team to lose, etc. I'd gladly appreciate it :)
After much practice I have finally learnt to do a climbing spiral. It isn't perfect and it took longer than it should have to learn but I've got it now.
Great video as always. Looks like a lot of editing work. Nevertheless I would also be happy to see some gameplay footage of you. It's always a joy to see you fly.
I might have missed it, but a I thought a helpful peace of advice is to use speed deceptively. Or, in the attackers position, to throttle back to prevent overshoot. It would seem counter-intuitive. But it's always gratifying to really stick on someone's tail because you've throttled back to counter their scissors. I don't know how much this should be used because you sacrifice speed for a single positional advantage. But it's helped me simplify engagements, to allow me another chance at a shot.
Thanks for the tips. im off to practice to compensate for my Yak's average turn rate. I figured the attacking stuff out myself. getting reversals is harder than it looks though.
I can't remember who pointed this out to me, but you can also gain the upper hand heads on if you face slightly off to the approaching bogey's vector, and at close range give a bit of rudder to get him on the cross-hairs. Risky and not to the faint of heart, not my got to escape to be sure, but if you're feeling daring... Why not? ;-)
It would be awesome if you could also share what are the keys that you pressed when doing these maneuvers! Lots of time I don't know which button should I press and what would the plane move after I did that. It would be super super helpful to study these. Btw great videos! Very informative and practical!
To be honest, most of these maneuvers are Arcade-centric and would not work as well in RB. You can pull a hard break in RB but generally only with elevator, using the roll key to change your angle as needed, but depending on the plane it could cost you a lot of speed and leave you vulnerable to a second attack. Clever use of the roll key while holding up elevator, could however force an overshoot, as demonstrated by Messer Smitt in his vids. Climbing Spirals with rudder are generally out of the question. Snap rolls depend heavily on the plane's flight model as to what the rudder does - on some planes it can be done, but on others it will throw you into a stall. Generally the oblique approach followed by a change of direction in & under the attacker is a better head-on avoidance method in RB.
Thank you. Ive been learning from your videos for a while now and i could even send you and Analyze this for you to take a look at. Only problem is i do not know how to.
You can send replays to iamlong5hot@gmail.com - first though, watch your replay to make sure the camera's motion is replicated correctly. You can see your camera movements by pressing the semi-colon key. The recent updates to War Thunder seem to have semi-broken this feature which severely detracts from what I can do in an Analyze This vid.
Great vid and thx for the tipps. There are still some things I don't get about the climbing spiral: You say that you are holding rudder and the up elevator. Why is it then that your plane does not go into an increasingly steeper climb, but keeps a flat climb angle(which would never happen if you hold the up elevator)?
The answer is the speed - notice it drops off very quickly. Very few planes will be able to lift the nose up too far at 140km/h. I'm taking the plane right to the edge of its performance, and using the spiral technique to wring more out of the plane than would be possible if I was banking the plane to turn & climb.
What maneuvers would you recommend if someone is 0.6km away chasing you and both you and him are at the same speed? Same plane (power-to-weight ratio) a) if you have altitude b) if you don't have altitude
i have became much better since following your tutorials,i just want to say a big thank you. im struggling with my camera work.is it possible you could do a tutorial on it. every time i try and look at some one while doing a loop the camera never goes back to default and i cant tell where im going if that makes sense
you can't perform it by wiggling the mouse around. Use the key bindings for up-elevator, right-rudder and right aileron (or alternately, left-rudder and left-aileron). If the rudder is too strong on a particular plane, it can result in a stall spin - if this happens, just use up-elevator plus aileron.
im trying to do these tactics on a ps4 but i cant bind my r1 tomy yaw axis,i did with my l1 and it makes the plane turn right but i need r1 to make it turn left
+Jay Berry I've heard there was a way to bind the various control surfaces on a PS4, but I don't know what it is. You always have the option of plugging in a mouse & keyboard...
I've been practicing the spiral climb in test flights and I can't seem to get it right ... I always end up in a loop or having it be too flat ... how do you get the angle right?
Arathaert The key is keeping the cockpit facing the sky. As soon as you let it roll over too far you'll exit the climbing spiral and be into some other maneuver, so keep tapping the roll keys as needed to keep that cockpit facing up and you'll stay in the spiral.
Thanks for the reply! It's not that it's rolling over... it's just pulling up too sharply and goes vertical. That or it never really goes up, even though I'm holding the elevator key, and just kinda turns gently and noses down (I expect that's a speed issue). I'm in an F2A-3 if that helps.
You shouldn't do that. Lack of sleep can severely damage your health, can make you short tempered, and it can prevent you from thinking straight. Only play when you need a bit of rest but not when you have already gone through a lot of unhappy emotions.
I can sometimes find the fun in this game. The grind sucks dick and most of the time I get killed by some dickface in a P47 that I never saw. I can’t even fucking spawn because I just die by 4 guys on me. How do you guys not lose your fucking mind trying to play?
First in a B25-j, we had won the match and I was just trying out some maneuvers. the second time was in a P47M-RE. I pulled up and ruddered over and it just fell out of the sky. About 3500 FT and 240mph when I started and could not get it back. Also when I turn off the instructor mode it becomes impossible to fly. I have followed several PS4 Controller setup instructions. I can make a vid and post it or email directly with my setup and a flight.
Apart from the early US fighters (Wildcats, Buffalos & earlier) most of that line should not be pushed into hard maneuvers at all. Not only do they have poor turning abilities, they lose speed very quickly. As a general rule, US planes such as the P-47 need to be kept at high speed at all times, and if you have to maneuver, use its rolling ability rather than rudder/elevator turns.
Another great guide, thanks! One thing I've wondered about is if you can't dodge head-on encounters, how can you WIN them? Why is it that I get pwned in these nine times out of ten? I hope you might cover that at some point.
To be honest, while I occasionally mastered head-ons and would go through periods where I'd win most of them, I'd then have a sequence of encounters where I was shot down. I do cover aiming in the head-on in the How to Aim video, but my enemy was a slow ping leading to poor hit detection, hence I always found it better to evade and look for a way to engage that doesn't let the other guy shoot back.
Its hard to generalize a situation like that. A lot depends on what plane you're flying versus those of your enemies - are you faster in a dive, can you out-turn them, what are your respective energy states, how much altitude do you have, are the enemies close together in a kill train or approaching widely spaced from different angles, and so on. Because of the above, each engagement will be unique. Sometimes it'll make sense to just dive and run, as you can outpace your opponents & get away whereas if you tried to dogfight you'd be smoked. Sometimes a rolling evasion with max rudder, zero throttle & landing flaps deployed can get a bunch of them to overshoot together. And sometimes you can stay evasive, suck them into a dogfight and then out-turn them all - if you're flying a Zero that's definitely the tactic to employ. There's plenty of examples of all the above in my various videos - in particular I'd suggest the Uptier vids on the LaGG-3-8 and A6M2-N for occasions where I'm caught by multiple enemies.
Is there some way to lock the mouse look activation with c? I find it so hard to keep the c button pressed while trying to maneuver my plane with the other keys.
Hey Longshot, I think your videos are very helpful and I use these in my flying in WT, But I am having trouble. With your second break upwards at 2:16 . I was wondering what your camera view adjustments and options are. Can you please explain it because my 1 problem with WT is I don't have eyes on the enemy at all times. Many thanks in advance
Looking at the video again now, with that 2nd break I still had elevator & rudder held, I just rolled the plane a bit more to change its angle. In terms of keeping eyes on the enemy, the answers you seek are in this vid - th-cam.com/video/S7tIbCD_3K4/w-d-xo.html
2019. Watching your videos help so much, i die less and i get 1 or 2 kills most matches. I still need to work on my aim. I still get shot down when i climb after performing a boom n zoom
Hello longshot I'm one of newer viewers/followers and Ive shared your guides to members of my clan and I can say our matches have gotten alot more enjoyable. I do like to ask though ive noticed alot of video's are classified as beginner guide and I was woundering if any plans for advance guides
Daniel Deleon To be honest, the beginners guides pretty quickly leap into advanced territory, with the whole energy fighting topic being something that the vast majority of Arcade War Thunderers (and many RB players) never really understand. The individual plane guides probably take things a bit further, also the new "Analyze This" series I just started will hopefully provide plenty of opportunity to explore more in-depth concepts and tactics as well, depending of course on the replays that people send me.
cant seem to maneuver , im 100% USA planes , i like the game but get very little time to play as i cant get enouth money from battles for repairs 3 of 10 battles i get maybe 5k others less cant seem to get good but i like watching your videos , very good :)
Hi... I saw your videos and all I learned comes from you, but still have problems to see arround me, some times I use rear view but loose control of my position or point of view, other times use the "C" key and the same, specially to keep track of other planes chasing me.... do you have email so I can ask you some questions...?
BöskeChannel They all work, it just depends what your plane is capable of. For example, many planes that are good at climbing spirals in Arcade simply can't do them at all in Realistic, so its something you'll need to check out in a test flight.
Not with the rudder, no - it'll just get you killed as it saps all your speed. You can, however, point the plane into a climb, aileron over & use elevator to turn it into a climbing spiral.
Corypheus I was going to say Red Tails (joking of course). Look I honestly don't know. Perhaps some of the old Pacific war films - Tora Tora Tora and Battle of Midway might be worth watching?
Hi long5shot, I need some help. I've been flying at high altitudes but I just can't seem to bleed off my opponents speed before they break my wings. Been practising climbing spirals with p-400 and A-36, been really frustrating, could you give pointers?
+Adam Lee I'd suggest flying planes with better high altitude performance. Both the P-400 and A-36 are better lower down, and it could simply be that you're losing due to their lack of horsepower compared to your opponents. Perhaps try planes like the F6F, the P-47Ds or the F4Us instead?
Hi. Learned a lot about energy and b&z from your tutorials. Very good. But when it comes to keyboard assisted flying as discribed here, I can`t get anything right when I try your keystroke advices.( Flying Me109 and FW190 in RB mode.) Hard break or climbing spiral only results in wild loops and other crazy horse behaviour. Anything I missed in setting up my keyboard ?
Reinhard Breuer Well, bear in mind that these videos are for Arcade mode where the flight models are more forgiving. Even in Arcade, FW190s are not great at hard maneuvers and I generally avoid using the keyboard for elevators & rudder. Its planes with stronger turning abilities that benefit most from keyboard use & that's the case in RB as well, so I wouldn't worry too much about using the keyboard with your German fighters, except for the roll keys of course.
long5hot Thanks, thats my experiance too, so far. I´d really would like a mode to use joystick and mouse more than keyboard and mouse. Like shooting in gunner view with mouse while controling the plane by stick.
I have a question about "guns defense" and if someone from long5hot's subscriber base could answer I;d appreciate it. I definately use guns defense quite a bit when being chased by an opponent whose plane I can;t out turn and they have a superior energy state. I have also chased opponents who use guns defense and they are very difficult to bring down and not only that but they drag you where they want to go which is usually towards their friends. Its a great tactic. However, every once in a while (once a week or so) I see an opponent who is using guns defense but their movements look extraordinarily "choppy". 99 times out of 100 when chasing a person using guns defense, the orientation of their plane (and the lead indicator), although may be randomly be moving left/right/up/down, the movements themselves are natural and fluid. Whereas that 1 time out of 100 the opponents lead indicator and plan orientation quite literally skips around. Im not talking like 90 degree turns or anything but small subtile skips that make lead targeting practically impossible. Im not calling hack here either, im just wondering I guess if it occurs because the person is wobbling their mouse as fast as they can; if its a lag issue; or a combination of both and perhaps there is a problem with WT's action prediction system if they in fact even use one, like other first person shooters. Just wondered if perhaps anyone has seen this phenominon and maybe even have an explanation.
Tom Tessmer Yes I've seen that, it started happening a few months ago. I believe its a result of poor/unstable internet connections messing with the server's calculation of where the planes are. And yes that's the kind of thing that could be deliberately instigated using 3rd party software to interfere with the packets, randomly delaying them to create an inconsistent ping. A cheat in other words, to make yourself hard to kill, though that doesn't mean every jittery opponent you see is cheating - some people do just have lousy internet.
long5hot Thanks. Fair enough. I definately like going after these guys. But most of the time it simply exposes your plane to too much danger and risk of getting jumped by enemies or shoulder shot/rammed to death by friendlies lol. But i guess that goes for anyone who is good at guns defense. Ill just pull up and doff my cap to them for outflying their own internet connection.
Hey Longshot, what if you are in a zoom climb and you are stalling one out but a second one does a low yoyo and has greater energy than you (while you're climbing)? Would you rutter or elevator over faster? Thanks.
This is the frustrating issue with War Thunder, the rudder can somehow out turn the wing. It gets so much roght for the feel for flying, but that is just nonsense. Great videos mate. Keep them coming.
Yep its true - rudder should not turn the plane as much as it does, nor should it do so with negligible speed loss. In using rudder turns I'm not flying as a real pilot would, but instead I'm blatantly exploiting the messed-up physics in this game :\
Absolutely, I have learned the hard way as I try to use the manoeuvrability of the Spit against something that should be less manoeuvrable, only to see a very strange high speed rudder turn which becomes my undoing. Shame, most of the flight model feels so right, which is why I play it.
From memory, I cut & pasted them from graphics found on the internet. What I'd really have liked to do, but didn't have the ability, is 3D animated flight paths like this guy uses in this awesome vid ... th-cam.com/video/9JBYzPK94l0/w-d-xo.html
+Marco Lammen Yes its always 100%, though you should increase Control Sensitivity to 100% in the Control -> Mouse Aim options as that governs the speed at which the control surfaces move from 0 to 100.
+Dareiyon Avila Its ... very difficult. Your main problem, I believe (and please correct me if I'm wrong) is that you don't have enough buttons to bind to each of the control surfaces - 2 for ailerons, 2 for elevators and 2 for rudders. Although I did fly with a PS4 player for a while who claimed to have overcome this but I never learned how he did so. You can of course plugin an actual mouse and keyboard to your PS4, but I can understand why many players wouldn't want to go to that much hassle.
Of course it is. It takes training to get smaller accurate movements with a stick than a mouse but you'll eventually find actually flying and maneuvering is a lot better and actually feels like u are flying something and not playing some weird click shooter. The keyboard has always been an awful cumbersome method of control, in any flying game because u can only keep tapping a key. It max value or no value
novocas7rian from which film did you take those scenes? They are simply epic and ill watch that film at all costs!!!! Can you please say the name of the film?? Plz plz plz? ????
These tactics are working in war thunder of course, but they are not realistic manouvers for real flying. It only works in arcade where there is unrealistic physics, mouseaim and external views. Normal break turn is a hard turn into the enemy. Usually enemy cannot see under engine cover (because of internal cockpit view). Accurate deflection shooting is very hard when enemy is invisible to view. Normal break turn saves a lot more energy than your variation of the arcade rudder and elevator turn. Just saying that this advice works best for arcade and realistic battles with mouseaim and externals.
This is very true. All my videos are for Arcade, and in many ways its just "gaming the system" - using what Arcade provides and pushing it as far as you can, as you do with any computer game. It has little in common with real flying. If you tried to pull some 100% rudder turns at high speed in a real plane you'd probably lose your vertical stabilizer :)
For Personal Use..
Table of Content
0:15 Introduction
0:48 The Hard Break
3:04 The Climbing Spiral
7:18 Scissors
9:31 Split S Reversal
13:13 Boom and Zoom Defense
17:22 Head-on Evasion
18:38 Guns Defense
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I've watched all your vids and studied them hard, practiced in training mode and now, after a few days of solid training and refining i usually always come first on my team, 3 being the lowest position. I personally use Hurricanes (not the best, but tough) and it is irrelevant what a planes turning speed is, if you know what you are doing you can be a god among men in the sky with anything. I now implement the same strategies in RB with decent success. Thank you for your tutorials, they really opened my eyes.
DBG yes I agree I have shot down planes with dive bombers with a full load
@@thepope2811 DB2 by chance? Watched someone rack up 7-9 kills a game in one.
How have you been able to get away from Boom and Zoom attacks with heavier fighters i.e. P47 or P38 lightning? I have been having some real difficulty avoiding Bf 109's when they dive on me and even when I do escape, I'll flip over expecting them to overshoot only to realize they've turned into me as well.
@@vosswatter always difficult against BF 109s. They are BnZ gods.
Though you can either climb and try to match their altitude negating, for the most part, their ability to BnZ or get close to the ground. That might scare off a few because many won't risk diving if you hug the terrain. But that brings up its only problems. Dog fighters mainly.
Though a trick to combat BnZ is to turn into their path. Never turn away. Because they will be on you once again. Turning into their path causes them to over shoot and they will have to climb. Which you can use to better position your self or tuck in behind them.
Split S is also a decent tactic to use. Advised, even.
But it has been a long while since I played War thunder. Just things off of the top of my head..
@@dbg5744 thank you! That makes things much easier since the P47 was never known for its agility. I've been playing American since I first started playing (about 2 months ago) which is not very beginner friendly as I have learned. However I am determined and your advice is very helpful
damn.. i reinstalled WarThunder after 2 years without playing, i still remember most of things i learn from you Longshot, you made me a great pilot in-game, i miss your videos a lot, hope you are doing well :)
as a new player who used this to geat effect, yes
Its been like a while, but there's one thing here I didn't like. When doing BnZ you're supposed to extend with a shallow climb to not allow your enemy to get a shot on you and then zoom straight up. He never mentions it.
Two 11 kills right after watching your videos. Thanks a lot
you're welcome!
Ok. This is absolutely THE BEST Damn tutorial series for War Thunder. Hands down. Thank you Lon5shot for putting these together. Really fantastic stuff. Legendary. Still relevant in 2020
Hey
I don’t know if you still play or work your channel but I wanted to say thanks. These videos made me a way better player and wingman for my buddy who plays air arcade. I’ve come back to you half a dozen times to learn and relearn more. Whenever I find myself getting wrecked you have my answers.
Thank you
You really helped me out with my BF109. I’m now getting about 9 kills every match and still mainly die but it’s worth it. I just hope your doing good right now. You really helped me out when I was about to stop playing. So thank you for everything. Wish you luck
This is the most helpful maneuver video I’ve ever seen. Alright time to win some more games.
Perla!!!
I have watched this many times when reacquainting myself with af arcade in warthunder and always helps to polish the blade 😊
Thanks Long5hot
Love the vids, Longshot. You deserve more views. I'm sure you know there are a lot of maneuver guides for warthunder here in the tubes, but a lot of them were made towards its initial release. I'm glad to see guides that apply to the game in its current state. Thanks!
Keep doing these videos THEY ARE WORTH LIFE!!
Ah, so that's what you were talking about when you said you out-turned a Chaika with the Ki-61's rudder :)
Very nice video- a lot of great advice that I'm sure will be of help to beginner AND intermediate players. Showing both points of view is definitely worthwhile, as it isn't always obvious what your opponent is experiencing.
Well, on reflection there's things I didn't show - such as how to avoid someone while keeping your energy high in order to gain a reversal not by forcing an overshoot but by gaining an energy advantage. All those sharp breaks etc have their cost in terms of speed loss. I guess they're good enough though for 90% of your typical Arcade encounters.
Hello longshot, good to see you're uploading videos.
I wanted to recommend you the Ebook name "in pursuit".
It's written by a WWII pilot and while it's meant to help more to people playing other (more realistic if I might say so,) WWII games, I found it to be quite helpful even in the unrealistic tug of war that is war thunder arcade.
i see this is 4 yrs old but if you can tell me where can i find that book
Great job Long5hot! Very informative and helpful. I know I need to work on my defensive flying and this should help a lot. I totally understand your desire to take a break, but I hope it's not too long for you shall be missed.
Thanks for ur vidoe. They are very clear and i learn a lot from them.Listening to ur voice like watching a documentry. Thanks
I played war thunder for a while and i wasent good but when i watched your guides i got very better like surviving attacks geting more kills and getting more RP.All i can say is thank you
Learning to do the climbing spiral made a huge difference to this game for me as i am now able to rope a dope and get the reversal on other players so much easier its "almost" unfair.
***** Yep, the climbing spiral is so overpowered - its amazing how much of an advantage it gives you.
Great video. Sorry to see that you moved on, evidently. That opening footage is beautiful. That "Hammerhead" reversal footage you execute is great. I remember when I first saw it in, War Thunder- "Victory is Ours". Made me install the game.
Thanks for posting these! I used some of these tactics in game and offensively I got my best ever, 9 kills in one game. However, I still need ti work on my defensive tactics as I lost 4 aircraft.
Thanks again!
I'll freely admit I'm not very good at War Thunder, but I enjoy the game. But this video has helped me immensely. I'm still not very good, but I certainly survive longer now, and for that thank you.
Quality of the player community can only be improved through better...education. Hopefully more people will watch these vids.
Keep up the good work :)
You do a fantastic job with teaching new players - like me - about the strategies we should use to be more successful, so I wanted to say thanks to you for all the effort you put in making these videos :)
Although I'm sad because you are taking a break from the game, since you said that you do not enjoy the game as much as you did in the past because of the new changes patch 1.45 has offered I think it is a step in the right direction - even though I'm not here to judge you :) We should play games to enjoy them and stop playing if that enjoyment is no longer present.
PS: That Bf-109 skin with the red nose tip and black-gray painting (I believe it was a E-3 skin) looks nice. I searched the web a little and could not find it, can you or someone give the link to the file on the web if possible?
Hey NF, firstly the skin can be downloaded from live.warthunder.com/post/27386/
Two things have made me take a break from WT - wall to wall clouds and short games, often both together. I had a terrible run of them and felt like throwing my mouse at the screen, so it was time to step back and do things which I actually enjoy rather than playing a game that induces frustration & rage (I'm a very calm person IRL). I'll be back playing, indeed I dropped on for a couple of quick games tonight.
novocas7rian I somewhat dislike clouds too, they are good for dynamic/realistic maps part where maps we play differ from one game to another but the amount of clouds force players to go dogfight at lower altitudes or have a bad game fighting the enemy within the clouds.
On the short games part though, I was always thinking that we as a team didn't do our job at killing their bombers or simply they had too much bombers that our bomber hunters could not catch up killing them, so we lost. As a new player I usually can't figure out the reason why did we win or lose, simply because I can't see the big picture in most of the games.
Also, now that I think of it, maybe - if you have the time - you can address this issue in this series, give tips about following the gameplay or knowing the reason that caused one team to lose, etc. I'd gladly appreciate it :)
After much practice I have finally learnt to do a climbing spiral. It isn't perfect and it took longer than it should have to learn but I've got it now.
How very nice to see you back, Longshot!
Very well done video - as usual! keep the good work up. - See you in the skies!
Great video as always. Looks like a lot of editing work.
Nevertheless I would also be happy to see some gameplay footage of you. It's always a joy to see you fly.
I might have missed it, but a I thought a helpful peace of advice is to use speed deceptively. Or, in the attackers position, to throttle back to prevent overshoot. It would seem counter-intuitive. But it's always gratifying to really stick on someone's tail because you've throttled back to counter their scissors. I don't know how much this should be used because you sacrifice speed for a single positional advantage. But it's helped me simplify engagements, to allow me another chance at a shot.
+Colby Paradiso Just use a yoyo-maintains energy and prevents over shoot
Some amazing mentoring right there. Thank you sir, you have the answers to my questions, i am impressed
Thanks for the tips. im off to practice to compensate for my Yak's average turn rate. I figured the attacking stuff out myself. getting reversals is harder than it looks though.
Dude, your lesson. videos are the Best! Thank you very much for doing these (and for helping make me a better pilot. Kudos times one billion.
It’s 2021 and this is still helpful!!!
These are freaking EPIC!!
I think I may have just played a game with you on the US server! Your videos are great, they really helped me when I was playing Warthunder Air a lot.
Yes quite possibly, I just finished a bunch of 3.0 BR games squadded up with Setch. Glad the vids are helpful :)
I can't remember who pointed this out to me, but you can also gain the upper hand heads on if you face slightly off to the approaching bogey's vector, and at close range give a bit of rudder to get him on the cross-hairs. Risky and not to the faint of heart, not my got to escape to be sure, but if you're feeling daring... Why not? ;-)
Believe it or not, but this is also a great guide for an app on iOS, called Wings of Duty. It's a very good game that can use the methods you teach.
you have done a very good job easy to understand . thank you and greetings from France .
It would be awesome if you could also share what are the keys that you pressed when doing these maneuvers! Lots of time I don't know which button should I press and what would the plane move after I did that. It would be super super helpful to study these. Btw great videos! Very informative and practical!
Does this work against more agile aircraft like the Mc.202
Longshot, How does one perform these manuvers in RB since the rudder is only useful in small turns.
To be honest, most of these maneuvers are Arcade-centric and would not work as well in RB. You can pull a hard break in RB but generally only with elevator, using the roll key to change your angle as needed, but depending on the plane it could cost you a lot of speed and leave you vulnerable to a second attack. Clever use of the roll key while holding up elevator, could however force an overshoot, as demonstrated by Messer Smitt in his vids.
Climbing Spirals with rudder are generally out of the question. Snap rolls depend heavily on the plane's flight model as to what the rudder does - on some planes it can be done, but on others it will throw you into a stall. Generally the oblique approach followed by a change of direction in & under the attacker is a better head-on avoidance method in RB.
Thank you. Ive been learning from your videos for a while now and i could even send you and Analyze this for you to take a look at. Only problem is i do not know how to.
You can send replays to iamlong5hot@gmail.com - first though, watch your replay to make sure the camera's motion is replicated correctly. You can see your camera movements by pressing the semi-colon key. The recent updates to War Thunder seem to have semi-broken this feature which severely detracts from what I can do in an Analyze This vid.
ok thank you so much!
I shot you over the replay in the gmail.
Awesome Video long5shot !!!! Many thanks .
Great Job, you have drastically improved my gameplay!
How do you keep the camera on him??? When u use shift you zoom in like crazy!??
I can't seem to find the button for the elevators on PS4, is it possible to perform the climbing spiral using mouse aim?
Great vid and thx for the tipps.
There are still some things I don't get about the climbing spiral:
You say that you are holding rudder and the up elevator. Why is it then that your plane does not go into an increasingly steeper climb, but keeps a flat climb angle(which would never happen if you hold the up elevator)?
The answer is the speed - notice it drops off very quickly. Very few planes will be able to lift the nose up too far at 140km/h. I'm taking the plane right to the edge of its performance, and using the spiral technique to wring more out of the plane than would be possible if I was banking the plane to turn & climb.
Aha, so I was doing it with too much speed then. Thx for helping us/me advance.
17:37 - but what if my keyboard can only detect 2 keystrokes, and not 3 like in this case?
im fucked up i guess
That's called ghosting, and its a hardware design flaw in your keyboard. My best advice is to invest in a gaming keyboard.
I try the first maneuver in an American fighter, it doesn't work because the guy behind me has a a6m2. Some aircraft are op in turn radius
What maneuvers would you recommend if someone is 0.6km away chasing you and both you and him are at the same speed? Same plane (power-to-weight ratio) a) if you have altitude b) if you don't have altitude
beautiful tutorials...it's like watching documentary series
I can´t really make a Flat spiral... its sooo hard to me.
i have became much better since following your tutorials,i just want to say a big thank you. im struggling with my camera work.is it possible you could do a tutorial on it.
every time i try and look at some one while doing a loop the camera never goes back to default and i cant tell where im going if that makes sense
17:29 How do I perform this maneuver with Mouse Aim?
you can't perform it by wiggling the mouse around. Use the key bindings for up-elevator, right-rudder and right aileron (or alternately, left-rudder and left-aileron).
If the rudder is too strong on a particular plane, it can result in a stall spin - if this happens, just use up-elevator plus aileron.
@@long5hot ok thanks
im trying to do these tactics on a ps4 but i cant bind my r1 tomy yaw axis,i did with my l1 and it makes the plane turn right but i need r1 to make it turn left
+Jay Berry I've heard there was a way to bind the various control surfaces on a PS4, but I don't know what it is. You always have the option of plugging in a mouse & keyboard...
long5hot dont I need a extra part to connect a mouse and keyboard or I can just plug them in to the ps4
+Jay Berry As far as I know you can just plug them in. I haven't got a PS4 so I'm just going on what I've heard.
I've been practicing the spiral climb in test flights and I can't seem to get it right ... I always end up in a loop or having it be too flat ... how do you get the angle right?
Arathaert The key is keeping the cockpit facing the sky. As soon as you let it roll over too far you'll exit the climbing spiral and be into some other maneuver, so keep tapping the roll keys as needed to keep that cockpit facing up and you'll stay in the spiral.
Thanks for the reply! It's not that it's rolling over... it's just pulling up too sharply and goes vertical. That or it never really goes up, even though I'm holding the elevator key, and just kinda turns gently and noses down (I expect that's a speed issue). I'm in an F2A-3 if that helps.
This game is too fun. I’m losing sleep in favor of playing
You shouldn't do that. Lack of sleep can severely damage your health, can make you short tempered, and it can prevent you from thinking straight. Only play when you need a bit of rest but not when you have already gone through a lot of unhappy emotions.
I can sometimes find the fun in this game. The grind sucks dick and most of the time I get killed by some dickface in a P47 that I never saw. I can’t even fucking spawn because I just die by 4 guys on me. How do you guys not lose your fucking mind trying to play?
Same
Dude same and I just got it last week
@@josephstalin5751
Calm down Stalin
th-cam.com/video/NsefG6kQ9vo/w-d-xo.html
/s
In all seriosness, I'm a noob but I hope your games get better.
They are sick manoeuvres, however PC players have a "rudder" key, how do you do these moves with a JOYPAD?
Either pedals, or some joysticks have a rotatable stick to use instead.
In your first braking maneuver I keep going into a flat spin when I try it. Please help?
What plane are you flying? Not every plane can pull off every maneuver successfully.
First in a B25-j, we had won the match and I was just trying out some maneuvers. the second time was in a P47M-RE. I pulled up and ruddered over and it just fell out of the sky. About 3500 FT and 240mph when I started and could not get it back. Also when I turn off the instructor mode it becomes impossible to fly. I have followed several PS4 Controller setup instructions. I can make a vid and post it or email directly with my setup and a flight.
Apart from the early US fighters (Wildcats, Buffalos & earlier) most of that line should not be pushed into hard maneuvers at all. Not only do they have poor turning abilities, they lose speed very quickly. As a general rule, US planes such as the P-47 need to be kept at high speed at all times, and if you have to maneuver, use its rolling ability rather than rudder/elevator turns.
Another great guide, thanks! One thing I've wondered about is if you can't dodge head-on encounters, how can you WIN them? Why is it that I get pwned in these nine times out of ten? I hope you might cover that at some point.
To be honest, while I occasionally mastered head-ons and would go through periods where I'd win most of them, I'd then have a sequence of encounters where I was shot down. I do cover aiming in the head-on in the How to Aim video, but my enemy was a slow ping leading to poor hit detection, hence I always found it better to evade and look for a way to engage that doesn't let the other guy shoot back.
How do u deal with multiple enemies on your six?
1 fighter is easy to pull a reversal from.
What if... 3 are there
Its hard to generalize a situation like that. A lot depends on what plane you're flying versus those of your enemies - are you faster in a dive, can you out-turn them, what are your respective energy states, how much altitude do you have, are the enemies close together in a kill train or approaching widely spaced from different angles, and so on.
Because of the above, each engagement will be unique. Sometimes it'll make sense to just dive and run, as you can outpace your opponents & get away whereas if you tried to dogfight you'd be smoked. Sometimes a rolling evasion with max rudder, zero throttle & landing flaps deployed can get a bunch of them to overshoot together. And sometimes you can stay evasive, suck them into a dogfight and then out-turn them all - if you're flying a Zero that's definitely the tactic to employ. There's plenty of examples of all the above in my various videos - in particular I'd suggest the Uptier vids on the LaGG-3-8 and A6M2-N for occasions where I'm caught by multiple enemies.
ok thanks.
i was in my favorite Russian i-185m82, was pursued by p51 a7m and p38.
Plz can you make an 'analyze this' for that if you get time?
Great hints. Will definitely practice my keyboard techniques.
Why are you using rudder to turn the plane? Is this not very inefficient?
Why is my plane so sluggish on the PS4 controller?
I can't even do a loop .
Is there some way to lock the mouse look activation with c? I find it so hard to keep the c button pressed while trying to maneuver my plane with the other keys.
+DesTrundle When you're maneuvering with keys, you don't need to use C to look around.
Can't believe I didn't realize that before. Thanks a lot!
Hey Longshot, I think your videos are very helpful and I use these in my flying in WT, But I am having trouble. With your second break upwards at 2:16 . I was wondering what your camera view adjustments and options are. Can you please explain it because my 1 problem with WT is I don't have eyes on the enemy at all times.
Many thanks in advance
Looking at the video again now, with that 2nd break I still had elevator & rudder held, I just rolled the plane a bit more to change its angle.
In terms of keeping eyes on the enemy, the answers you seek are in this vid - th-cam.com/video/S7tIbCD_3K4/w-d-xo.html
Head on with a 109 hub mounted gun?
2019. Watching your videos help so much, i die less and i get 1 or 2 kills most matches. I still need to work on my aim. I still get shot down when i climb after performing a boom n zoom
Hey anyone know why I'm on tier 4 and can't a
study the jets yet I don't know why
I am the bf 109 branch and have not study any other planes in the German class
Hello longshot I'm one of newer viewers/followers and Ive shared your guides to members of my clan and I can say our matches have gotten alot more enjoyable. I do like to ask though ive noticed alot of video's are classified as beginner guide and I was woundering if any plans for advance guides
Daniel Deleon To be honest, the beginners guides pretty quickly leap into advanced territory, with the whole energy fighting topic being something that the vast majority of Arcade War Thunderers (and many RB players) never really understand.
The individual plane guides probably take things a bit further, also the new "Analyze This" series I just started will hopefully provide plenty of opportunity to explore more in-depth concepts and tactics as well, depending of course on the replays that people send me.
cant seem to maneuver , im 100% USA planes , i like the game but get very little time to play as i cant get enouth money from battles for repairs 3 of 10 battles i get maybe 5k others less cant seem to get good but i like watching your videos , very good :)
Hi... I saw your videos and all I learned comes from you, but still have problems to see arround me, some times I use rear view but loose control of my position or point of view, other times use the "C" key and the same, specially to keep track of other planes chasing me.... do you have email so I can ask you some questions...?
Which of these works in realistic?
BöskeChannel They all work, it just depends what your plane is capable of. For example, many planes that are good at climbing spirals in Arcade simply can't do them at all in Realistic, so its something you'll need to check out in a test flight.
For the climbing spiral, do I just jam on the "UP Elevator" key, or am I supposed to feather it/use a joystick?
+Lemontech74 Jam it, jam the rudder, feather the ailerons.
+long5hot Thanks!
+Lemontech74 And Jam WEP as well :)
where do i find realistic maneuvers
You can use these on are rb as well.
But just not as sharp
Is the climbing spiral possible in RB? I tried but no dice...
Not with the rudder, no - it'll just get you killed as it saps all your speed. You can, however, point the plane into a climb, aileron over & use elevator to turn it into a climbing spiral.
long5hot Gee, didn't know you would answer. Thanks a lot!
I love your videos! They're so in depth and informative!
What is the name of the clip at the beginning of your video?
That's from a film called "The German".
novocas7rian Thanks! There is a short film called "Paths of Hate" that you would enjoy. (If you have not already seen it.)
any other movies or clips you can recommend that has some great WW2 air combat? Please don't say Pearl harbour :)
Corypheus I was going to say Red Tails (joking of course). Look I honestly don't know. Perhaps some of the old Pacific war films - Tora Tora Tora and Battle of Midway might be worth watching?
Corypheus Battle of Britain.
Hi long5shot, I need some help. I've been flying at high altitudes but I just can't seem to bleed off my opponents speed before they break my wings. Been practising climbing spirals with p-400 and A-36, been really frustrating, could you give pointers?
+Adam Lee I'd suggest flying planes with better high altitude performance. Both the P-400 and A-36 are better lower down, and it could simply be that you're losing due to their lack of horsepower compared to your opponents.
Perhaps try planes like the F6F, the P-47Ds or the F4Us instead?
thanks, I'll give them a shot.
Hi. Learned a lot about energy and b&z from your tutorials. Very good. But when it comes to keyboard assisted flying as discribed here, I can`t get anything right when I try your keystroke advices.( Flying Me109 and FW190 in RB mode.) Hard break or climbing spiral only results in wild loops and other crazy horse behaviour. Anything I missed in setting up my keyboard ?
Reinhard Breuer Well, bear in mind that these videos are for Arcade mode where the flight models are more forgiving. Even in Arcade, FW190s are not great at hard maneuvers and I generally avoid using the keyboard for elevators & rudder. Its planes with stronger turning abilities that benefit most from keyboard use & that's the case in RB as well, so I wouldn't worry too much about using the keyboard with your German fighters, except for the roll keys of course.
long5hot Thanks, thats my experiance too, so far. I´d really would like a mode to use joystick and mouse more than keyboard and mouse. Like shooting in gunner view with mouse while controling the plane by stick.
the only issue... is that the only things i use. are WASD. for throttle and role. and the mouse for everything else.
That layout won't let you compete at your best in WT I'm afraid. I talk about key bindings etc in this video: th-cam.com/video/sZiFIhXiGDE/w-d-xo.html
I have a question about "guns defense" and if someone from long5hot's subscriber base could answer I;d appreciate it.
I definately use guns defense quite a bit when being chased by an opponent whose plane I can;t out turn and they have a superior energy state. I have also chased opponents who use guns defense and they are very difficult to bring down and not only that but they drag you where they want to go which is usually towards their friends. Its a great tactic.
However, every once in a while (once a week or so) I see an opponent who is using guns defense but their movements look extraordinarily "choppy". 99 times out of 100 when chasing a person using guns defense, the orientation of their plane (and the lead indicator), although may be randomly be moving left/right/up/down, the movements themselves are natural and fluid. Whereas that 1 time out of 100 the opponents lead indicator and plan orientation quite literally skips around. Im not talking like 90 degree turns or anything but small subtile skips that make lead targeting practically impossible.
Im not calling hack here either, im just wondering I guess if it occurs because the person is wobbling their mouse as fast as they can; if its a lag issue; or a combination of both and perhaps there is a problem with WT's action prediction system if they in fact even use one, like other first person shooters.
Just wondered if perhaps anyone has seen this phenominon and maybe even have an explanation.
Tom Tessmer Yes I've seen that, it started happening a few months ago. I believe its a result of poor/unstable internet connections messing with the server's calculation of where the planes are. And yes that's the kind of thing that could be deliberately instigated using 3rd party software to interfere with the packets, randomly delaying them to create an inconsistent ping. A cheat in other words, to make yourself hard to kill, though that doesn't mean every jittery opponent you see is cheating - some people do just have lousy internet.
long5hot Thanks. Fair enough. I definately like going after these guys. But most of the time it simply exposes your plane to too much danger and risk of getting jumped by enemies or shoulder shot/rammed to death by friendlies lol. But i guess that goes for anyone who is good at guns defense.
Ill just pull up and doff my cap to them for outflying their own internet connection.
Hey Longshot, what if you are in a zoom climb and you are stalling one out but a second one does a low yoyo and has greater energy than you (while you're climbing)? Would you rutter or elevator over faster? Thanks.
This is the best war thunder videos on you tube . Which key is the elevator key??
You'll find the answer in this video: th-cam.com/video/sZiFIhXiGDE/w-d-xo.html
What button layout you use?
This is the frustrating issue with War Thunder, the rudder can somehow out turn the wing. It gets so much roght for the feel for flying, but that is just nonsense. Great videos mate. Keep them coming.
Yep its true - rudder should not turn the plane as much as it does, nor should it do so with negligible speed loss. In using rudder turns I'm not flying as a real pilot would, but instead I'm blatantly exploiting the messed-up physics in this game :\
Absolutely, I have learned the hard way as I try to use the manoeuvrability of the Spit against something that should be less manoeuvrable, only to see a very strange high speed rudder turn which becomes my undoing. Shame, most of the flight model feels so right, which is why I play it.
What’s the name of the movie pls
@ayoub danger It is a movie clip, though I forgot which movie
How do you get those neat aircraft maneuver pics that show their flight path?
Photoshop ;)
@@long5hot Were those aircraft models that you showed made in photoshop as well? If not, where did you get them?
From memory, I cut & pasted them from graphics found on the internet. What I'd really have liked to do, but didn't have the ability, is 3D animated flight paths like this guy uses in this awesome vid ... th-cam.com/video/9JBYzPK94l0/w-d-xo.html
I actually miss the old gunfire sounds, they just had something to them
Another excellent video! Thank you
Is the keyboard input always 100% ? Im flying fw190 and bf190 fighters and the input on my keyboard feels slow ;)
bf109 offcourse
+Marco Lammen Yes its always 100%, though you should increase Control Sensitivity to 100% in the Control -> Mouse Aim options as that governs the speed at which the control surfaces move from 0 to 100.
+long5hot aim control sensitivity ?
+Marco Lammen That sounds like the one.
This should be mandatory training for any War Thunder player
not enough hits for the quality of your videos. Subscribed
Ho do u use the elevators
I think you should watch the Beginner's Guide series from the start - all is explained. th-cam.com/play/PLuSIUQRYEJmIdv6uh3YD4hp3KIld8w_Zg.html
Thx, ur videos r great by the way, very detailed and helps me a lot
Also just one question, how do u fill in ur lead reticle with color? I don't think u mentioned that in ur first guide.
Can you do sime videos on FRB?
No as I don't play that mode, but GrmlZ has excellent content that you might find helpful.
novocas7rian Thanks!
Every time ive tried an upward spiral or a hammerhead I always get killed
is it possible to do these with mouse aim on ps4??
+Dareiyon Avila Its ... very difficult. Your main problem, I believe (and please correct me if I'm wrong) is that you don't have enough buttons to bind to each of the control surfaces - 2 for ailerons, 2 for elevators and 2 for rudders. Although I did fly with a PS4 player for a while who claimed to have overcome this but I never learned how he did so. You can of course plugin an actual mouse and keyboard to your PS4, but I can understand why many players wouldn't want to go to that much hassle.
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+Dareiyon Avila if you train enough to control rudders and elevators separately you can do better than mouse aim
Of course it is. It takes training to get smaller accurate movements with a stick than a mouse but you'll eventually find actually flying and maneuvering is a lot better and actually feels like u are flying something and not playing some weird click shooter. The keyboard has always been an awful cumbersome method of control, in any flying game because u can only keep tapping a key. It max value or no value
novocas7rian from which film did you take those scenes? They are simply epic and ill watch that film at all costs!!!! Can you please say the name of the film?? Plz plz plz? ????
Its a short film called The German, the link is in the description text above.
Are you using a stick in this video? I tried it with my mouse and it doesn't work very well
T Woodson No stick, purely mouse and keyboard. I only use the mouse for more gentle maneuvers, when I need to turn sharply its always keys.
Lon5shot is the bob ross of warthunder
Love your videos :D Only problem I have is knowing more people will employ these manoeuvres and escape my attacks XD
Heh, well, I only have about 1800 subscribers which is just a drop in the ocean. I don't think you need worry too much ;)
These tactics are working in war thunder of course, but they are not realistic manouvers for real flying. It only works in arcade where there is unrealistic physics, mouseaim and external views. Normal break turn is a hard turn into the enemy. Usually enemy cannot see under engine cover (because of internal cockpit view). Accurate deflection shooting is very hard when enemy is invisible to view. Normal break turn saves a lot more energy than your variation of the arcade rudder and elevator turn. Just saying that this advice works best for arcade and realistic battles with mouseaim and externals.
This is very true. All my videos are for Arcade, and in many ways its just "gaming the system" - using what Arcade provides and pushing it as far as you can, as you do with any computer game. It has little in common with real flying. If you tried to pull some 100% rudder turns at high speed in a real plane you'd probably lose your vertical stabilizer :)
Love your video, thx. What's the name of the movie at the end of your video please ?
+themyii Its from a short film called "The German", the link to which is in the description text above.
+long5hot Thx, sorry i miss the description.
Great video mate, very good standard indeed!
useful and already know all of them but the defensive climb thanks now my Do-17 heavy fighter will live
What is the Hollywood movie you clipped called?
what's is the movie names on the final of your video?
Look in the description text :)